lucebuce12
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That video was posted on r/kappa a few minutes after being seen here and we all know r/kappa boyz know how to keep their mouths shut.
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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster |DT2| oh dear...
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BronsonLee
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I OFFICIALLY ACCUSE:
Rhaknar
Dahbomb
Jawmuncher
lucebruce12
IntelliHeath
Rahknar again
lucebuce12
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Why can no one get my name right
BronsonLee
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are you making fun of my dyslexia?!
Solidus187
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Lmao geez, how do you let this one slip by as public? Capcom is the gift that keeps giving.
Anyway, I'm not surprised to find out they're giving this game an esports push. It's the casual audience that I'm worried about this game not capturing...
lucebuce12
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The way you're being defensive, I'm starting to think you told John D to remove the video!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Of course, when people want to blame or accuse me of something, they always spell my username right. :|
BronsonLee
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I'M TIRED OF YOUR SHIT BRUCE
Full disclosure, I double checked your name
I double checked luce's too but I only typed in 'luce'
Jawmuncher
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oooooooooohhhhhhh financials
always fun to see that stuff leak. also good to know Marvel will have an esports push at least for one year. I think the community will show up big time for that.
I wonder if they want Yipes for commentary, or if he's not "esports" enough. And if they do, will that disqualify him from playing? Because I want to see him play tbh...
always fun to see that stuff leak. also good to know Marvel will have an esports push at least for one year. I think the community will show up big time for that.
I wonder if they want Yipes for commentary, or if he's not "esports" enough. And if they do, will that disqualify him from playing? Because I want to see him play tbh...
wait what? are you acusing me of secretly working for Capcom? Like, working for the evil corporation? Working for THE MAN?
I ma offended, where would you get such a ridiculous notion...I mean I...I... I mean...
BronsonLee
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I see my accusations have already borne one escape attempt and one obvious betrayal
Killa Sasa
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Honestly, without the financials and maybe a little less detail on some things public shouldn't be privy to, this would actually make a good promo video for "hey, we're gonna support this game" to battle some of the wild accusations out there. Once/if proposals are actually finalized, that is.
Turbanator
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So how long until MvCI becomes the second biggest fighter at EVO and then everybody playing it is being accused of only doing so for the money?
I'll keep that in mind next time something leaks.
I'm not in enough to be suspected, huh? Is that it?
I'll keep that in mind next time something leaks.
you're Dean in this scenario btw, not Roman.
You just stand there looking like an idiot.
yeah not gonna lie, that proposal video is the most hype piece of marvel infinite media I've seen this year
if it all works out that's going to be hype af
DryEyeRelief
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That won't happen if this is actually a good game.
BronsonLee
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Agreed. Also, the total forecasted profit amounts at the end of the video feel very low. Without other similar ventures to compare it to I guess I'll never know, but... wow.
This is interesting to watch.
Seem like they have really serious eSport aspirations with this game, which was a concern people (including me) had given people thinking it might be focused solely for a casual audience given the story focus.
There's a LOT of support for events in there. Seems like Capcom is even further ahead of their competitors than we thought when it comes to supporting the community. They're throwing tens of thousands of dollars of equipment, DLC, etc. support for TOs.
how much did you think companies profited from tournaments?
Yeah I was gonna say...
Expenses seems high and revenue seems low for this kind of thing. I wonder how Street Fighter V does in comparison. All we know for sure is Capcom isn't sending 20% out in that scenario... and that Sony is heavily involved and probably throws a bunch of money in there to help out.
Getting Marvel Infinite out there as a big esport seems like a much more difficult undertaking for Capcom, but probably has more potential than any other fighting game if things go correctly.
BronsonLee
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Ya there's no money in this
That's why you've never seen the tournament I invented come to fruition, The B-1 Brand Brix
Turbanator
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If you believed esports wasn't going to be a focus for a modern Capcom fighting, you're pretty lost. Esports is the only thing SFV has gotten 100% right without error.
The Jedah reveal also demonstrated that the FGC at large was still being marketed to with this game.
Killa Sasa
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For real - it's good to know that there's some element of strategy and execution behind the scenes for the game's life.
That number stood out to me too. I would venture there's gotta be more things that go above and beyond it, but who knows.
Any marketing, comms and promotion likely has to go through layers and layers of bureacracy for both the Mouse and Capcom, but they really should hire a team (hell, one person) who specializes in this and let them run with a full plan to talk to people. They've still got a chance to win more of them over, this accidental upload of a proposal as proof. Plus, if they get a specialist they won't need to micromanage (as much).
lucebuce12
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Better have those capture cards ready to record any shenanigans.
The real issue is that as much as they're obviously pushing the FGC as the audience with the game design itself (which I once again postulate is actually the least accessible/casual friendly in the series in a long while) they are actually pushing the game as 'accessible' and casual friendly when it's quite evident it's not.
I wouldn't say 100%. Last couple of years have had complaints mostly from the players on how its structured. (Then there's complaints about the game itself but that's something else) But the good thing is that Capcom USA is in charge of esports and they can and have made adjustments in response to complaints.
That's been my impression too. It seems like a disconnect.
I don't know, to be honest. For most tournaments I didn't really think that there'd be much, if any profit. However this is on a much different level, with sponsors and additional funding mechanisms built in. Additionally, I'm pretty sure that the revenue forecast is through the end of 2018, so it's almost a year and a half. I guess off the top of my head I'd think it would be in the low 7 figures, to be honest. Somewhere in the million dollar range.
Capcom this is all you gotta do to make dat profit:
-hire spooby
-pay him like $3000 per tournament
-low production value? more like "authentic MAHVEL experience". book a fucking community centre for each tournament. grand finals is two dudes sitting on steel chairs in front of a monitor with the crowd literally watching over their shoulders and screaming shit in their ears.
-hire spooby
-pay him like $3000 per tournament
-low production value? more like "authentic MAHVEL experience". book a fucking community centre for each tournament. grand finals is two dudes sitting on steel chairs in front of a monitor with the crowd literally watching over their shoulders and screaming shit in their ears.
Really interesting. Honestly that tones down my fears with this game a little, they obviously have high hopes for it.
BronsonLee
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They're positioning it as casual to sucker rubes like me into buying the game
Then when I get bodied online and trade it in, they already got their money
Then when I get bodied online and trade it in, they already got their money
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
wait what? are you acusing me of secretly working for Capcom? Like, working for the evil corporation? Working for THE MAN?
I ma offended, where would you get such a ridiculous notion...I mean I...I... I mean...
Since you are here. Tell Capcom that we want someone from Breath of Fire and She-Hulk. Well, add Wesker, Wright and Wolverine top of it. Thanks!
Isn't that how you're supposed to do it with fighting games anyway? Most people drop it within weeks, and you want a solid game there for those that stick with it.
Granted, they seem to be misfiring on what pulls casuals players in.
That's certainly seems to be the case. Sales-wise its very easy to see an SFV scenario repeating itself with Infinite: lukewarm fan response, low sales, and continuous animosity towards Capcom. If they want to capture the casual audience they need repeatable single player content. And Arcade Mode doesn't cut it anymore. They need something like MK's Challenge Towers and INJ2's Metaverse.
Jawmuncher
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Gunslinger
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Lol Capcom doing all this for 600k profit (according to the video posted by dryeyerelief) when, Namco and Nintendo making 10 times that probably just by making good product and selling them successfully.
Turbanator
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I think this part really highlights that our biggest issues on the dev side with both SFV and MvCI is that the side that actually takes and responds to feedback (CapUS) is an entirely separate entity from the side that develops the game (CapJP). Ever since the whole Ibuki debacle last year, it's been painfully obvious that the two sides have horrific communication with one another, and while CapUS is taking our feedback and trying to solve the issues we have (as seen in their way of handling CPT 2016's complaints as well as the fact that they repond to each community poll on r/StreetFighter), CapJP still has a very archaic "we know what we're doing" approach to development and refuses to listen to CapUS's advice or take responsibility for their mistakes.
TheSpoiler
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Holy shit Tekken and Arms made 6 million each?!?
Jawmuncher
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When we got insight into capcom when Sven worked there. Capcom JP basically tells capcom US to fuck off when they come with feedback. Like if that day one patch is indeed real. It was more than likely Marvels doing rather than actual feedback from Capcom US.
They definitely do the whole "We do what we want" mentality much like Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Japan had for awhile
They definitely do the whole "We do what we want" mentality much like Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Japan had for awhile
sixteen-bit
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thats the tournament profits, its not game sales profit (or expected).
but what else would one expect from a Gunslinger post in a Capcom thread.
Gunslinger
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It's Capcom so most likely not.
I would think there bigger problem with casual audiences for this is the roster, tbh.
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