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[Nyoro SF]

It's so weird to me that they think this would alienate western ace attorney buyers. Does it have enough mainstream crossover for Japanese settings to be a deal-breaker? Surely everyone who still buys ace attorney is basically a weaboo and would be thrilled to get their feudal Japan on?

It's almost as confusing as human beings spending money on crash in the year 2017.

What's funny about DGS1 is that only the first case takes place in Japan. The remainder of the game takes place in London (one case occurs during a travel to London). I haven't played DGS2 yet, but given the pre-release information I think it's the same setup.

So to this day, we really have no idea why they never localized the title. Especially with a globally recognizable character like Sherlock Holmes in it.

 

[LordKano]

I thought the reason the DGS games aren't being localized had to do with licensing issues regarding Sherlock Holmes, since that's what the story is about(?)

Sherlock is free of use.

 

[Skullwaker]

Sherlock is free of use.

Huh, didn't know that. I remember reading something about a licensing issue back when the first game was released but I guess that was incorrect.

 

[megaStryke]

Sherlock is free of use.

Huh, didn't know that. I remember reading something about a licensing issue back when the first game was released but I guess that was incorrect.

Yes and no. From what I remember, all Sherlock Holmes is in the public domain outside of the US, but within the US, there are certain stories published past the copyright cutoff year, which the Doyle estate uses as leverage to exercise control over the entire property within the US.

 

[Lexxism]

If the blog Chris references is correct, and we see 120k or so Switch units next week, then the gap of the 3ds price drop will have almost been bridged before the week itself arrives (162k lead going into that week). Looking good!

Damn. 120k? Oh my.

 

[Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule]

Dragon Quest XI selling at DQ levels.
Splatoon 2 attach rate keeps getting higher.
PS4 up YOY and ahead PS3 launch aligned.
3DS up YOY and reaching 24M this year.
Switch over 3DS launch aligned.

There is a god.

 

[FreedomFighter]

Switch crossing the streams, now to see how it sales in the holidays

Imagine if it can keep pace with 3DS post price cut?

Might be too much to ask for, even with better stock.

 

[Alrus]

Imagine if it can keep pace with 3DS post price cut?

Might be too much to ask for, even with better stock.

The 3DS had a pretty insane holidays lineup in its first year. The switch doesn't really seem to have something on the same level as of right now.

 

[FreedomFighter]

The 3DS had a pretty insane holidays lineup in its first year. The switch doesn't really seem to have something on the same level as of right now.

Maybe with the pent up demand it can hover around 3DS totals launch aligned.

And I don't know that Nintendo will have anything else in addition to Xenoblade Chronicles 2 this holiday season to really push the console.

 

[Nibel]

Knack 2 will outsell Crash Bandicoot

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Switch vs 3DS

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  21|   46.637|1.257.915|   98.999|1.196.986|       -60.929|
|  22|   31.826|1.289.741|   89.314|1.286.300|        -3.441|
|  23|   16.415|1.306.156|   61.933|1.348.233|        42.077|
|  24|    4.132|1.310.288|         |         |              |
|  25|  196.077|1.506.365|         |         |              |
|  26|  105.639|1.612.004|         |         |              |
|  27|   60.781|1.672.785|         |         |              |
|  28|   54.744|1.727.529|         |         |              |
|  29|   49.076|1.776.605|         |         |              |
|  30|   58.837|1.835.442|         |         |              |
|  31|   70.159|1.905.601|         |         |              |
|  32|   58.504|1.964.105|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

I guess week 25 and 26 means 3DS will take back and keep the lead for a long time to come

 

[Skittzo0413]

I guess week 25 and 26 means 3DS will take back and keep the lead for a long time to come

According to Chris next week may have sales higher than on Splatoon week, maybe even something as high as 120k for Obon. If it does reach that next week and then falls back to this week's 60k or so as a baseline it will be very close until the holiday season.

It really all depends on stock at this point more than anything else.

 

[FreedomFighter]

Knack 2 will outsell Crash Bandicoot

That would be like the first Knack outselling Super Mario 3D World.

 

[Eolz]

Knack 2 will outsell Crash Bandicoot

If they bundle it again.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

According to Chris next week may have sales higher than on Splatoon week, maybe even something as high as 120k for Obon. If it does reach that next week and then falls back to this week's 60k or so as a baseline it will be very close until the holiday season.

It really all depends on stock at this point more than anything else.

I can't even imagine a 120K week for Switch in Japan right now, that would be amazing let's hope

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

So I just realized that the Switch is getting a port of a last-gen Monster Hunter while a rival console gets the next mainline game... just like the Vita

 

[Chris1964]

Week 32 is the pre-Obon and week 33 the Obon week. Both are considered holiday weeks, week 34 is the one with the big drops.

 

[hiska-kun]

Week 32 is the pre-Obon and week 33 the Obon week. Both are considered holiday weeks, week 34 is the one with the big drops.

But that week 34 is Monster Hunter XX bundle.
But yeah, I wouldn't expect too much.

 

[Bruno MB]

I have to eat crow because I never believed in Nintendo capability to notably ramp up production of Nintendo Switch so fast after barely shipping 30.000 units per week during the first weeks of July.

 

[LordKano]

So I just realized that the Switch is getting a port of a last-gen Monster Hunter while a rival console gets the next mainline game... just like the Vita

Vita got a MH game that isn't Frontier ?

 

[barber]

Vita got a MH game that isn't Frontier ?

You could play Monster Hunter Portable 3rd from psp if i remember correctly. The second stick even worked.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Good Switch numbers. I hope 50-60k is the new baseline until holidays.

On the other hand, aren't those ARMS and BoTW numbers kind of... lacking? I thought new launches (like Splatoon 2) would mean better sales for other titles for one or two weeks at least.

You're asking if more Japanese people are willing to buy other games on the Switch when they can just play splatoon for the next month before considering other games?

 

[Chris1964]

But that week 34 is Monster Hunter XX bundle.
But yeah, I wouldn't expect too much.

Switch apparently isn't included in big drops since its sales are determined from supply but there is no way shipments stay in the 100k range the week after Obon. But Monster Hunter bundle could soften the drop even if it's very limited.

Only Capcom could release this game in a dead period exactly after holidays.

 

[schuelma]

Only Capcom could release this game in a dead period exactly after holidays.

Yeah I just realized that - wonder what the logic (if any) was

 

[FreedomFighter]

Yeah I just realized that - wonder what the logic (if any) was

None. Just Capcom being Capcpom.

 

[Xbro]

Yeah I just realized that - wonder what the logic (if any) was

Seems to be a recurring theme for this title.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Yeah I just realized that - wonder what the logic (if any) was

Capcom_logo.jpg

 

[Salvadora]

I didn't realise MH was coming out post-holiday either.

I guess they wanted to avoid Splatoon 2?..

 

[Skullwaker]

Seems to be a recurring theme for this company.

FTFY.

 

[Aters]

The Evil Within 2 and Sen no Kiseki III could also have a shot at doing 100K+ I think.

Sen no Kiseki III will clear 100k no problem. Not sure about The Evil Within 2. Even RE7 bombed, I can only see the same kind of game in a much less-known franchise bomb harder.

 

[Magnet_Man]

It is, and for a game that probably cost barely any money to make for new assets (since there aren't all that many), 80k isn't drop-dead awful. You have to remember they planned DGS as a trilogy initially, and that the first game left a lot unanswered--Capcom making good on the story is a nice move, I think.

I don't think the original lack of a localisation is due to low confidence as much as what some others have mentioned, a much heavier focus on Japanese history, Japanese language, and Japanese figures than other games in the series.

Answer me this and I'll take you more seriously on this:

Is that why Investigations 2 didn't get brought over? Too Japanese? Also the DGS games spend very little time in Japan or feature actual Japanese figures outside of Souseki, and he's not historically accurate anyway.

 

[The Emperor]

Switch is just so amaaaazing in sales. With a mainline pokemon coming eventually it will stay high.

And so FFXIII will remain the software king of the post PS2 console playstation era. Wonder if there will ever be a playstation game in Japan to ever outdo it in sales.

Excellent hold for DQXI nonetheless. Will be interesting to see how legs will be.

 

[L~A]

Answer me this and I'll take you more seriously on this:

Is that why Investigations 2 didn't get brought over? Too Japanese? Also the DGS games spend very little time in Japan or feature actual Japanese figures outside of Souseki, and he's not historically accurate anyway.

No, Investigations just sold poorly. That and AAI2 would've come out after the 3DS.

I have to eat crow because I never believed in Nintendo capability to notably ramp up production of Nintendo Switch so fast after barely shipping 30.000 units per week during the first weeks of July.

I don't they they ramped it up "so fast", they most likely paced themselves during the slow weeks of May and June.

The 3DS had a pretty insane holidays lineup in its first year. The switch doesn't really seem to have something on the same level as of right now.

Maybe, but the Switch already has everything the 3DS had for its first holidays:

- Super Mario 3D Land / Super Mario Odyssey
- Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
- MH3G / MHXX

Granted, those are not direct equivalent (especially MHXX, not going to sell anywhere near what MH3G sold, even FW only), but that's not taking into account the "extra" like Splatoon 2 (gonna sell gangbusters in December), leggy games, etc.

Honestly, only thing capping Switch sales is the amount of units Nintendo can ship for holidays, not really the line-up.

 

[Deku89]

Trying my hand at charts. ARMS will probably fall behind 1 2 Switch by next week, Splatoon 2 is in its own little world, and MK8DX seems to have stabilized around 13k.

 

[nicolasacmf]

Hopefully DGS2 sells well enough to justify making a third one so Takumi can wrap up the trilogy and then move on to a new IP or a new mainline game. AA5 was utter crap and though I mostly liked AA6, it had awful moments that really showcased how no one can make an Ace Attorney as good as Takumi.

 

[DeuceGamer]

Makes you wonder how much Nintendo could have sold without the massive shortages. Glad to see they have at least been able to up the available units and hope that continues moving forward.

 

[Reki]

You're asking if more Japanese people are willing to buy other games on the Switch when they can just play splatoon for the next month before considering other games?

Of course Japan loves Splatoon, but it isn't uncommon to acquire extra games or accesories when buying a console. If you also factor that there is acumulated demand from people who wanted the Switch in the last months, it's not that unreasonable to think that they may want to play already released games.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Trying my hand at charts. ARMS will probably fall behind 1 2 Switch by next week, Splatoon 2 is in its own little world, and MK8DX seems to have stabilized around 13k.

Hopefully new characters will see a surge in interest into the holiday.

 

[Kureransu]

I can't even imagine a 120K week for Switch in Japan right now, that would be amazing let's hope

Here's another look, in the next 3 weeks, the 3DS will have sold 305.8k systems. Since Nintendo is already 42k ahead of the 3DS right now, it has to sell 263.8k to stay on pace with it, and more to keep out pacing it. so it needs to average 88k over the next 3 weeks. So it'll be a matter if Ninty has the stock for it.

if Chris is right and they sell 120k next week, then they'll have to hit 73k the next 2 weeks. which may be doable. especially with the MHXX bundle and the like

 

[Gradivus]

Of course Japan loves Splatoon, but it isn't uncommon to acquire extra games or accesories when buying a console. If you also factor that there is acumulated demand from people who wanted the Switch in the last months, it's not that unreasonable to think that they may want to play already released games.

I doubt a lot of the children will have pocket money to buy anything more than Splatoon +Switch combo. Hopefully that might change with Obon.

 

[Kalor]

Hopefully DGS2 sells well enough to justify making a third one so Takumi can wrap up the trilogy and then move on to a new IP or a new mainline game. AA5 was utter crap and though I mostly liked AA6, it had awful moments that really showcased how no one can make an Ace Attorney as good as Takumi.

I haven't been following it too closely but DGS2 was meant to wrap up everything from the first game. I don't think it was intended to be a trilogy.

 

[thestopsign]

I have to eat crow because I never believed in Nintendo capability to notably ramp up production of Nintendo Switch so fast after barely shipping 30.000 units per week during the first weeks of July.

They were clearly holding back units for bundles... like I said they were the whole time.

I think stock could have been 40-50k consistently May through July, but they siphoned off units for bundles for a while during ramp up.

 

[Datschge]

Only Capcom could release this game in a dead period exactly after holidays.

The children can play the demo until then and then curse their schools.

 

[KillerMan91]

Sen no Kiseki III will clear 100k no problem. Not sure about The Evil Within 2. Even RE7 bombed, I can only see the same kind of game in a much less-known franchise bomb harder.

Original Evil Within sold around 172k between PS3/PS4. Even with drop I think Evil Within 2 will at least clear 100k.

 

[MTC100]

Switch has finally overtaken the 3DS but can it maintain the lead with the latter's price drop bump looming? Find out in the next

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I don't think that Switch will be able to maintain the Lead, the 3DS had an insane bump in numbers when its price dropped, I think it sold 300k within two weeks or so and kept selling quite well afterwards.

60k a week for Switch just won't be enough, not for the demand and not for beating the 3DS. Nintendo would need to ship 100k a week minimum to maintain a lead and there would still be ~80% of people wanting a Switch ending in not getting one...

(Judging by reports of 5000 people buying lottery tickets when only 500 Switches were on sale, meaning Nintendo could easily sell 5-10 times as many Switch as they do at the moment)

 

[Fiendcode]

Knack was an enjoyable game on my first run-through. Story was cheesy as hell, but the co-op wasn't bad, and there weren't many games like it at the PS4 launch. Game has no replayability value though.
No hype for the sequel.

How much did Knack sell in Japan?

According to Famitsu 401,579. Of which 400k were given away with launch PS4s.

 

[whyamihere]

Yeah, my read on these ARMS numbers are that it'll do alright in the end, we'll probably get a sequel, but we have to see what happens going forward. Probably a B-tier franchise for Nintendo going forward ala Pikmin.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

So I just realized that the Switch is getting a port of a last-gen Monster Hunter while a rival console gets the next mainline game... just like the Vita

I want to see how well the sales for MHworld does before I can say Capcom made the wrong choice

They really want to make Monster Hunter a strong IP in the west I think the graphics upgrade for home consoles is a good start.

Their Switch plans have pretty weird IMO but Monster Hunter XX is not a bad choice

 

[LordKano]

Yeah, my read on these ARMS numbers are that it'll do alright in the end, we'll probably get a sequel, but we have to see what happens going forward. Probably a B-tier franchise for Nintendo going forward ala Pikmin.

ARMS probably already outsold most Pikmin games tho, worldwide.

 

[Skittzo0413]

They were clearly holding back units for bundles... like I said they were the whole time.

I think stock could have been 40-50k consistently May through July, but they siphoned off units for bundles for a while during ramp up.

Yeah it's obvious they were holding back stock in the form of bundles (and some standalone consoles too) but what's impressive is that they've been able to at least double that 30k baseline for 3 weeks in a row now, and look to surpass 100k again next week (or the week after). It's hard to stockpile for a period of 4-5 weeks so it's likely that they have also managed to increase production, in addition to selling the held back units.