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IT - Official Trailer 1

B33

Banned
Oh damn I gotta know now
Fukunaga & Palmer juxtaposed the moment with a shot of an older woman feeding her cat tuna in a house across the street from the drain.

They wrote that Pennywise tore Georgie apart like a ragdoll in the background while the cat and the older woman were in focus in the foreground.

So Pennywise attacked and chewed on Georgie like a cat would treat its prey in the original script
 

Snaku

Banned
On the bright side, if they play their cards right, they can create a super-edit down the road that plays to the back-and-forth of the book's storytelling. This is pretty much the only way it can work in theatres, but once it's in peoples' blu-ray players all bets are off.

There will absolutely be fan edits combining the two films eventually.
 

Timu

Member
Fukunaga & Palmer juxtaposed the moment with a shot of an older woman feeding her cat tuna in a house across the street from the drain.

They wrote that Pennywise tore Georgie apart like a ragdoll in the background while the cat and the older woman were in focus in the foreground.

So Pennywise attacked and chewed on Georgie like a cat would treat its prey in the original script
I hope this is in the movie.
 
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Love the outfits
 

oatmeal

Banned
I got to say, I'm a tad disappointed that they split the story in the two parts the way they did. Reading the book, at least in the beginning, the adult's reactions to the fateful call sells both just how much of a mindfuck, how much of a threat It is, and how close their childhood friendship was.

But it probably works better that way as a movie

I read the script and had the same reservations.

Works great.
 

Spoo

Member
I'm thinking it will be. I'm pretty sure the director is using most of Fukunaga's script and that was definitely one of the coolest parts from what I remember reading.

I actually think there will be *less* influence of Fukunaga's script -- in fact, from the leaked clip, you can already see some major differences in the dialogue.

I don't think people should go into this movie expecting Fukunaga's vision. He was happy to see the script be rewritten when he left the project. There's still an influence there, but don't confuse similarities to the source material for similarities to Fukunaga's take.
 

Lan Dong Mik

And why would I want them?
I actually think there will be *less* influence of Fukunaga's script -- in fact, from the leaked clip, you can already see some major differences in the dialogue.

I don't think people should go into this movie expecting Fukunaga's vision. He was happy to see the script be rewritten when he left the project. There's still an influence there, but don't confuse similarities to the source material for similarities to Fukunaga's take.

oh i hear ya on that, i noticed the little changes to the script in that leaked scene, even when pennywise was saying there was balloons, peanuts, cotton candy, etc. I think in the old script Pennywise also says something like "cotton candy, peanuts, elephant shit" for some reason lol. I'm glad they didn't go with that. So I'm definitely expecting a ton of surprises.
 

Spoo

Member
oh i hear ya on that, i noticed the little changes to the script in that leaked scene, even when pennywise was saying there was balloons, peanuts, cotton candy, etc. I think in the old script Pennywise also says something like "cotton candy, peanuts, elephant shit" for some reason lol. I'm glad they didn't go with that. So I'm definitely expecting a ton of surprises.

Yeah, the cursing there seems like a small thing, but it's important to note that, in the book, Pennywise can be and is quite lewd. Depending on who he is interacting with, what the true purpose is behind the interaction, he slips behind a lot of different personas (which I believe is what is influencing Bill's take on the character -- the idea that Pennywise has a lot of different "voices" is actually a very keen and analytical take on the premise of the book's version).

So, in some instances, Pennywise can almost be endearing, such is the case with the scene with Georgie. It's one of the few cases where Pennywise is not an overt evil, and the language he uses there in the book is important -- and cursing is a part of that characterization, and I think Cary's take was... this is how kids talk, so why not use that language? And it's a fair point, and could definitely work for a slightly different interpretation of that character, but it is a different character.

In some cases, Pennywise is actual downright racist and uses extremely foul language in the book. He does this to taunt, and reduce his victims in certain cases, and as the power of the kids grows, there's a change in his persona there to direct threats. So that escalation, to me, is important, and Fukunaga's version of the script, with the expletive, I think sends you down that path earlier. It doesn't fit with the tone of what the scene is trying to accomplish.

There is plenty happening of course that doesn't come from the book. And that's fine, and there will be many instances of that. But I think they are trying to avoid changes to the characters that redefine them even in their new context of the 80s and so on, whereas Fukunaga's version, I don't think he cared about making sweeping changes, because he wanted ownership over the experience he had when interpreting the book.

TBH, I'd love to see his version, and I'd actually love to see what Will Poulter would do with the role too (If you've seen Detroit, you know he has a real presence), but I am happier to have a movie that stays between the guard rails in a lot of places, because IT fans don't *really* have a Marvel's handful of reboots to select when they want to see IT on the screen.
 
As for that "evil clown" look, with the make-up and whatnot, that's just tends to be what 1800s and 1900s clowns looked like

Creepiest-vintage-clown-photos.jpg


Creepiest-clown-ever.jpg


Now imagine those in color and modern lighting, instead of grainy black and white

 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
As for that "evil clown" look, with the make-up and whatnot, that's just tends to be what 1800s and 1900s clowns looked like

Creepiest-vintage-clown-photos.jpg


Creepiest-clown-ever.jpg


Now imagine those in color and modern lighting, instead of grainy black and white

Jesus.
 

B33

Banned
I actually think there will be *less* influence of Fukunaga's script -- in fact, from the leaked clip, you can already see some major differences in the dialogue.

I don't think people should go into this movie expecting Fukunaga's vision. He was happy to see the script be rewritten when he left the project. There's still an influence there, but don't confuse similarities to the source material for similarities to Fukunaga's take.

Fair point. The Georgie scene may be closer to the book than Fukunaga & Palmer's vision. It seems like the rewrites were to
remove the sexually charged moments from Fukunaga & Palmer's vision of the story, refine the dialogue, revise the ending, add more scenes from the book into the script, and implement the shape-shifting element of Pennywise into the narrative (not as the classic movie monsters but instead as deep-seated fears).
 
I hope that

HE THRUSTS HIS FISTS AGAINST THE POST

Still plays a major role.

That and Silver. Especially if they do go ahead with the adult sequel, Silver will provide some great emotional payoff.
 

Bookoo

Member
The one they casted with the pony tail..ugh..
Young Bill was a much better actor, I also recently learned he committed suicide. :(

Wow didn't know that. I laughed Everytime he tried to stutter in the movie.

That said I loved "The Ladybugs" though.
 

Leeness

Member
I hope that

HE THRUSTS HIS FISTS AGAINST THE POST

Still plays a major role.

That and Silver. Especially if they do go ahead with the adult sequel, Silver will provide some great emotional payoff.

HE THRUSTS HIS FISTS AGAINST THE POST AND STILL INSISTS HE SEES THE GHOST

Hi ho Silver, awaaaaaay!

I hope both of those are around in some form too. Bill doesn't seem like he stutters much, so we may lose the stuttering phrase :(
 

Miles X

Member
Reading last couple pages, should I be happy with the changes if I want to see a more violent Pennywise? Some of the scenes read out here sound like they would be amazing (but horrific) to watch.
 
As for that "evil clown" look, with the make-up and whatnot, that's just tends to be what 1800s and 1900s clowns looked like

Creepiest-vintage-clown-photos.jpg


Creepiest-clown-ever.jpg


Now imagine those in color and modern lighting, instead of grainy black and white
@.@
It's ok.
I didn't need to sleep tonight anyways.

That first clowns reflection in the mirror is staring right in to my soul.
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
Was initially skeptical on this Pennywise based on the initial designs but that extended peek really got me on board. Doesn't even remind my of Curry's performance, which is great.

Very much looking forward to this.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Is this a good book to be your first Stephen King?

(Technically I read Dark Tower agggges ago but I don't really remember it)
 
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