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Media Create Sales: Week 32, 2017 (Aug 07 - Aug 13)

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casiopao

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Switch is rising like crazy lol.

And of course snake world actually did quite well shocking me lol.

Eolz said:
I don't see Arms doing any comeback anywhere tbh, and this kind of stuff should help more western sales.
It's still a fighting game, despite the usual audience improvements from Nintendo. Content was too light at launch compared to Splatoon, and the genre is still a particular one for this region.
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I can see it had quite a lovely legs in the future though. Even this week it shows increase by 44% and by nature, fighting game wont be affected by second hand market as not only it had online component, ninty is keep supporting it with free dlc.
 
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L~A

Member
Dre3001 said:
I think Switch stock is stabilizing now and should be regularly around 50-70k a week.

The fact that people are still lining up for the system and it's selling out just shows the insane demand.

The Switch is moving from the category of supply constrained to insane demand.
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Moving? It's always been in the latter, we simply didn't know just how much demand there was (well, we still don't quite know, but still)

casiopao said:
Switch is rising like crazy lol.

And of course snake world actually did quite well shocking me lol.




I can see it had quite a lovely legs in the future though. Even this week it shows increase by 44% and by nature, fighting game wont be affected by second hand market as not only it had online component, ninty is keep supporting it with free dlc.
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Snake World? :p

About ARMS, Chris1964 mentioned some Amazon bundles, so I'd say most of the increase comes from those.
 
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Zedark

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casiopao said:
Switch is rising like crazy lol.

And of course snake world actually did quite well shocking me lol.




I can see it had quite a lovely legs in the future though. Even this week it shows increase by 44% and by nature, fighting game wont be affected by second hand market as not only it had online component, ninty is keep supporting it with free dlc.
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The rise is mostly due to amazon bundles: famitsu chart doesn't give any significant increase for the game for example.
 
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MasterSheen

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Is Switch sales expected to remain high this year going forward (40k-50k)? I figured it would would strong during the Splatoon to Obon period but I've no idea afterwards
 
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jonno394

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MasterSheen said:
Is Switch sales expected to remain high this year going forward (40k-50k)? I figured it would would strong during the Splatoon to Obon period but I've no idea afterwards
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Most likely Switch will sell whatever Nintendo put out for quite some time to come. Demand doesn't seem to be subsiding, it could easily reach 4m by Christmas if Nintendo have the stock, imo.
 
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MTC100

Banned
Jamix012 said:
There's no way Switch stock continues to be limited for much longer with numbers like these! Which is good news!
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Nintendo would need to ship 1 million in a week or two to really take care of demand.(and even if they could do that, they'd need another 2m for the holiday season I guess) That won't happen of course, so we will see shortages for Japanese people up until the end of next year probably, even if Nintendo can keep up the 60-80k a week.

It will be interesting to see the 3DS cross the Switches stream once more next week to eventually get beaten in the long run :)
 
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Alrus

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DQ 3DS numbers are disappointing.

Snack World opened okay but it needs to have legs, and Level 5 wants it to be their next cash cow which seems a bit compromised.

I was going to see that Arms went up which was nice but then I remember that it's probably a one time thing due to the Amazon bundles.
 
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Skittzo0413

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MasterSheen said:
Is Switch sales expected to remain high this year going forward (40k-50k)? I figured it would would strong during the Splatoon to Obon period but I've no idea afterwards
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It will hopefully be even higher than that, since they did get to that range quite a bit between launch and Splatoon 2, and now they seemingly have been able to increase production by a sizable amount.

The previous low was somewhere around 25k though, so I guess we won't really know what the new normal will be until a quiet week comes... we have Obon this coming week and MHXX bundles after that, I guess the week starting the 28th might show us what to expect as a baseline?
 
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jonno394

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Looking at COMG preorder numbers for MH XX switch, it doesn't look good. We know there's going to be a bundle at launch, i wonder how many people are going to buy the MHXX bundle due to lack of availability of the S2 bundle, and then sell the game right away?

Not gonna be good if the game has middling week 1 sales and the game is readily available in second hand stores.
 
Yagami_Sama

Yagami_Sama

Member
Impressive numbers from Switch and Splatoon 2.

I thought that The Snack World would do like 30k, not bad. I wonder if Level-5 is already working on a sequel and two spin-offs.

And look, Mario Kart 7 on top 20 again.
 
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Mr Swine

Banned
jonno394 said:
Looking at COMG preorder numbers for MH XX switch, it doesn't look good. We know there's going to be a bundle at launch, i wonder how many people are going to buy the MHXX bundle due to lack of availability of the S2 bundle, and then sell the game right away?

Not gonna be good if the game has middling week 1 sales and the game is readily available in second hand stores.
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Capcom will probably base their expectations on that Monhun XX is a flop on Switch and will fully focus on monhun for multiplat
 
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nicolasacmf

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Happy to see good Switch stock. Hopefully Nintendo can keep Switch manufacturing at this level. Dai Gyakuten Saiban 2 dropped hard though... any chance it makes it to 100k?

And Mario Kart 7 rears its head once again, lol.
 
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule

Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule

Member
I know the chances of MHXX switch ver. are minimal but this

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will move a few thousands for sure.
 
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MTC100

Banned
L~A said:
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Road to 1 million units

Switch LTD = 560 764
Wii U LTD = 133 024 (hasn't charted in ages)
Combined LTD = 693 788
Units left = 306 212
Weeks left in 2017 = 20 weeks, so 15 310 units/week for 1m this year.
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1M in the long run seems possible, this year not so much...

Aters said:
Will Switch maintain this number?
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Only Nintendo knows but it seems like they finally reap what they sow with their increased production numbers.
 
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frankie_baby

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jonno394 said:
Looking at COMG preorder numbers for MH XX switch, it doesn't look good. We know there's going to be a bundle at launch, i wonder how many people are going to buy the MHXX bundle due to lack of availability of the S2 bundle, and then sell the game right away?

Not gonna be good if the game has middling week 1 sales and the game is readily available in second hand stores.
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Its been climibing slowly but surely the last few days and even if they only buy the monhun bundle due to lack of the others i cant see them just flogging off their copies of the game as it'd be a bit weird having a monhun themed console without a monhun game to play on it so i can see the numbers being more reasonable than maybe it looked like a few weeks ago
 
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JJConrad

Sucks at viral marketing
jonno394 said:
Looking at COMG preorder numbers for MH XX switch, it doesn't look good. We know there's going to be a bundle at launch, i wonder how many people are going to buy the MHXX bundle due to lack of availability of the S2 bundle, and then sell the game right away?

Not gonna be good if the game has middling week 1 sales and the game is readily available in second hand stores.
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One advantage that the Switch version will have over other MH console ports is that it has no barriers between it and the existing fanbase culture. Switch players can meet up and play 3DS players as if they were (edit) almost (/edit) the same system. That alone should ensure the Switch version inherits a health portion of the franchises long legs and maybe even entice more people to double dip than usual. So even if there was an extra large build up used cartridges in the market from the bundle, the market should be able to absorb them over time.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
jonno394 said:
Looking at COMG preorder numbers for MH XX switch, it doesn't look good. We know there's going to be a bundle at launch, i wonder how many people are going to buy the MHXX bundle due to lack of availability of the S2 bundle, and then sell the game right away?

Not gonna be good if the game has middling week 1 sales and the game is readily available in second hand stores.
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We'll see. Using Comgnet it still looks to me like its on track for 100K-ish opening depending on bundles.
 
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Ōkami

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Famitsu retail + digital

[PS4] Nier: Automata - 401.186

Talk about surprises, its just a few hundred units below Knack, so its overall the 9th best selling game on PS4.

It should drop out of the top 30 fairly soon, thought it should still sell well there, by the time we get the top 100 update in January it'll likely have outsold COD: BOIII and Persona 5.

It should be the 2nd best selling PS4 game for the year, unless something surprises, but I really doubt it, unless Dynasy Warriors 9 or the new Call of Duty are really good and click with people.
 
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jonno394

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schuelma said:
We'll see. Using Comgnet it still looks to me like its on track for 100K-ish opening depending on bundles.
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I was just basing it on the fact that a week prior to launch Snack World had around 71 comgnet orders and shifted just under 100k, and a week to launch and MHXX is at 41 atm.

Looking at COMG it's a shame that Azure 2 Switch still hasnt surfaced, the title will likely see lower sales in general compared to teh first one(or so Im lead to believe) but will be a shame if the Switch version just flat out bombs.
 
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Graphics Horse

Member
Disgaea 5 wasn't bundled with every launch PS4.

JJConrad said:
One advantage that the Switch version will have over other MH console ports is that it has no barriers between it and the existing fanbase culture. Switch players can meet up and play 3DS players as if they were the same system.
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Is this confirmed because I've seen people say that only works online. Although, you can be online and in the same place ofc.
 
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JJConrad

Sucks at viral marketing
Graphics Horse said:
Is this confirmed because I've seen people say that only works online. Although, you can be online and in the same place ofc.
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You may be right. And it's Capcom... so I won't bet against you.

jonno394 said:
I was just basing it on the fact that a week prior to launch Snack World had around 71 comgnet orders and shifted just under 100k, and a week to launch and MHXX is at 41 atm.
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Don't compare presales like that. They're barely informational within the same franchise on the same system.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
jonno394 said:
I was just basing it on the fact that a week prior to launch Snack World had around 71 comgnet orders and shifted just under 100k, and a week to launch and MHXX is at 41 atm.
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Its obviously hard to really predict since different games end up so different, but as another example its tracking ahead of ARMS which hit 120K first week on famitsu. Also depends on how many bundles there are.
 
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thestopsign

Member
noshten said:
Assuming 4 million Switches are sold in 2017:
Switch Rest of 2017 = 2564K
Zelda: BotW attach rate needed for 1 million = 11.9%

Assuming 4.5 million Switches are sold in 2017:
Switch Rest of 2017 = 3064K
Zelda: BotW attach rate needed for 1 million = 9.9%

Assuming 5 million Switches are sold in 2017
Switch Rest of 2017 = 3564K
Zelda: BotW attach rate needed for 1 million = 8.5%


Obviously 5 million is the absolute maximum I think we could see in 2017 more realistic would be between 4.3-4.7 million if manufacturing and stock issues are resolved.
With Nintendo doing bundles for Arms/MK8D it's not out of the question to see a Zelda bundle for the holidays. DLC will be dropping and Nintendo know that a lot of people will be buying Splatoon 2 even if it's not bundled. Even if a theoretical bundle is available for one week looking at those 3DS 2011 December numbers it can do a lot in terms of getting Zelda past 1 million.
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It's not happening. Also, you are still assuming Nintendo can concurrently stock up for a massive holiday while having decent weekly shipments in the meantime, which seems fairly doubtful.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
thestopsign said:
It's not happening. Also, you are still assuming Nintendo can concurrently stock up for a massive holiday while having decent weekly shipments in the meantime, which seems fairly doubtful.
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They are pretty clearly increasing production. Who knows what they will be able to reach, but things appear to be heading in the right direction.

I think matching Wii U's LTD this year is pretty realistic.
 
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thestopsign

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schuelma said:
They are pretty clearly increasing production. Who knows what they will be able to reach, but things appear to be heading in the right direction.

I think matching Wii U's LTD this year is pretty realistic.
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Sure, I agree. The Wii U's LTD would be perfectly in line with my initial prediction this year. It is also under what he is talking about here. It just doesn't mean Nintendo will have supply for 400-500k in multiple weeks like they did for 3DS in 2011.
 
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TwilightPrincess

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Skittzo0413 said:
It will hopefully be even higher than that, since they did get to that range quite a bit between launch and Splatoon 2, and now they seemingly have been able to increase production by a sizable amount.

The previous low was somewhere around 25k though, so I guess we won't really know what the new normal will be until a quiet week comes... we have Obon this coming week and MHXX bundles after that, I guess the week starting the 28th might show us what to expect as a baseline?
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At the moment the baseline is what Nintendo delivers to the shops. Demand will only grow with more games, because at moment not even everyone who wants to play splatoon 2 gets a Switch.
 
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Skullwaker

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Switch and Splatoon 2 pulling great numbers. Hopefully next week we see something similar so that it stays above 3DS launch aligned. Disappointing for all other hardware and DQXI.

Also, I definitely don't think Switch will hit 5m in 2017. 3.5-4m is certainly possible, but it depends on what Nintendo is able to ship. I hope they can pull similar numbers to the 3DS' first holiday season.
 
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule

Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule

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hiska-kun said:
Switch vs 3DS
Code: 
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|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  22|   31.826|1.289.741|   89.314|1.286.300|        -3.441|
|  23|   16.415|1.306.156|   61.933|1.348.233|        42.077|
|  24|    4.132|1.310.288|   87.798|1.436.031|       125.743|
|  25|  196.077|1.506.365|         |         |              |
|  26|  105.639|1.612.004|         |         |              |
|  27|   60.781|1.672.785|         |         |              |
|  28|   54.744|1.727.529|         |         |              |
|  29|   49.076|1.776.605|         |         |              |
|  30|   58.837|1.835.442|         |         |              |
|  31|   70.159|1.905.601|         |         |              |
|  32|   58.504|1.964.105|         |         |              |
|  33|   53.540|2.017.645|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

New Comparison:
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This will be a close one.
 
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noshten

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thestopsign said:
It's not happening. Also, you are still assuming Nintendo can concurrently stock up for a massive holiday while having decent weekly shipments in the meantime, which seems fairly doubtful.
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Obon and Splatoon 2 launch have provided an indication that 1 million in December is pretty doable. They have sold 335K Switches since the Splatoon 2 launch in a 4 week period. It's still questionable if they'd be able to supply more than 1 million for December. But unless Switch falls to under 40K after the holidays it appears we are seeing the ramp up in production. Nintendo have already stated that in the fall we'd see bigger supply. So it's pretty much assured that 4 million is the minimum we'd see sold in Japan this year.
It's obvious that currently we are seeing prioritization for Japan due to Splatoon 2 launch and the leaked NPD numbers confirm this, but there is also a larger supply in the states for July(25% or so), which assures us that this is the effect of the production ramp up rather than only Japan being prioritized.

I don't think 10% attachment rate is unattainable for BotW and December coincides with the new DLC. Nintendo has already shown they are quite happy to have forced bundles available. We've seen Splatoon 2, Arms, MK8D and even Bomberman R receive bundles at specific retailers. People underestimate Zelda and 300K for potentially 2.5 million new owners isn't really all that much and is far from unrealistic.
 
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Zedark

Member
noshten said:
Obon and Splatoon 2 launch have provided an indication that 1 million in December is pretty doable. They have sold 335K Switches since the Splatoon 2 launch in a 4 week period. It's still questionable if they'd be able to supply more than 1 million for December. But unless Switch falls to under 40K after the holidays it appears we are seeing the ramp up in production. Nintendo have already stated that in the fall we'd see bigger supply. So it's pretty much assured that 4 million is the minimum we'd see sold in Japan this year.
It's obvious that currently we are seeing prioritization for Japan due to Splatoon 2 launch and the leaked NPD numbers confirm this, but there is also a larger supply in the states for July(25% or so), which assures us that this is the effect of the production ramp up rather than only Japan being prioritized.

I don't think 10% attachment rate is unattainable for BotW and December coincides with the new DLC. Nintendo has already shown they are quite happy to have forced bundles available. We've seen Splatoon 2, Arms, MK8D and even Bomberman R receive bundles at specific retailers. People underestimate Zelda and 300K for potentially 2.5 million new owners isn't really all that much and is far from unrealistic.
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Maybe not unrealistic but that is quite a bit higher than the current BOTW sales-to-shipment ratio. I doubt 1 million this year will happen, but FY could definitely happen imo.
 
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