I think he is referring to Arms
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First 12 months for Splatoon on the Wii U:
[WIU] Splatoon - 1.320.002
First month for Splatoon 2 on the Switch:
[NSW] Splatoon 2 - 1.013.842
[WIU] Splatoon - 1.320.002
First month for Splatoon 2 on the Switch:
[NSW] Splatoon 2 - 1.013.842
- Mario Kart 8 was the first million seller on the Wii U - took exactly one year for it to reach 1 million. Splatoon got to 1 million on the Wii U in 30 weeks.
- Mario Kart 7 was the first million seller on the 3DS, came out week 48 in 2011 and passed one million in week 51.
- First two million seller on the 3DS was AC:NL released the following year and made two million during the first week of 2013.
- Both MK7 and AC:NL were released prior to the winter holidays.
AcademicSaucer
Member
I can see a lot of people double dipping If DQXI on switch is a port of the PS4 version because of the portability .
Skullwaker
Member
The Switch dip this week is pretty low, but it certainly doesn't warrant some of these reactions lol. Especially when we know there should be a sizable uptick in supply next week.
Great that Splatoon 2 has already hit 1m retail (according to Famitsu at least). I wonder what the Switch's 2nd million seller will be.
Great that Splatoon 2 has already hit 1m retail (according to Famitsu at least). I wonder what the Switch's 2nd million seller will be.
DecoReturns
Member
Mario Odyessy?
How do 3D Mario games do in Japan?
Skullwaker
Member
64 and both of the Galaxy games cleared 1m. 3D Land did 2m+. 3D World did around 600-700k but that was on Wii U.
I'm thinking it will be either Odyssey or MK8D.
Heh yeah its kinda funny....sales doesnt exist in a vacuum Switch sold quite a bit since the Splatoon 2 launch. Some posts make it sound like it has been selling 20k per week since June.
The stock issue wont be fully resolved until next year we knew that already, demand is too high.
since you brought up, what's your actual ARMS prediction tho?
'ARMS will sell more than 200k sometime but not sell 1.5 million. King me" is about the most safe choice of 2017 lol
D.Lo
Member
Exactly. Gonna need receipts on many people saying Arms would sell millions like Splatoon.
I don't recall anyone saying it would actually be the next Splatoon, It was almost universally 'Probably 100k+, but after Splatoon you never know'. Like it seems unlikely but you can't rule out a breakout.
Wow I never thought I would be so close! Should reach it in a few weeks. Looks like everyone else underestimated the sales of both lol
Skullwaker
Member
When will this narrative of "Arms was said to be the next Splatoon" die? Most people predicted quite south of Splatoon numbers.
TheLegendaryN
Member
Why 500k? Games in the fighting game genre don't make big numbers anymore. It's already the best-selling fighting game in Japan since J-Stars Victory VS in early 2014 (third-party) and Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS & Wii U in late 2014 (first-party), which both use many established properties. ARMS of course has Nintendo's marketing machine behind it, but it still is a brand-new IP with characters that have yet to become popular. And it's on a new machine, which is great for a new series as people tend to try new things on new hardware but also limits the sales potential by the small user base.
If Nintendo keeps supporting ARMS and the buzz around the game remains, I can see it getting long enough legs to become close to 500k, but I don't think it'll reach that number. I think that it can be considered a success already tho.
The push for Arms from Nintendo is following Splatoon steps. You can't expect sales of a game from this development team to be satisfying because it outsold similar entries on weak systems. If genre was the determing factor most genres would be dead in Japan except Nintendo published games.
Not Japan, but Cartoon network was littered with ARMS at one point.
It was always on where I worked on the kids unit.
Just a detail showing how the push was. Other regions probably followed suit. Hopefully it can reach my "good enough" 400k number.
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It was always going to sell more in the west, but they probably have a number they wanted from Japan.
It was always on where I worked on the kids unit.
Just a detail showing how the push was. Other regions probably followed suit. Hopefully it can reach my "good enough" 400k number.
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It was always going to sell more in the west, but they probably have a number they wanted from Japan.
D.Lo
Member
I'm fairly certain Arms was developed with the west more in mind, so Japanese sales won't determine its success.
Almost every Nintendo game is developed with the west more in mind and Arms so far looks to be a bigger success in Japan than most western big markets.
Worst case scenario Arms LTD doesn't reach 500K in Japan, best case scenario it ends up close/over SSB Wii U sales. In the end as far as recent New Nintendo IPs are concerned it is looking like a success. I don't know if it ends up close to Splatoon's Wii U's LTD, but I think it unquestionably will end up over 3 million LTD.
So far we've seen approximately half of the game with 10 additional fighters data-mined, there would be 10 additional stages and 30 additional Arms. There might be additional modes, single player content and amiibos in the future. So it will likely have the typical Nintendo legs.
Sure there are games like MK8D, Zelda, Splatoon, SMO dwarfing it by a large margin but that's entirely expected.
Yup thats why i had the believe that Nintendo would not be happy with the curent numbers and they hope that the free content will give them nice legs.
Let see if till this holiday, if ARMS will stay on chart or already forgotten there.
Jarod McChicken
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Before the release of Sen no Kiseki III in Japan and Ys VIII in the West, little Falcom looks alright with 2,3 million dollars profit compared to 1 million dollars the year before. This is from October 1 2016 to June 30 2017. Net sales and operating income are also higher than last year.
First PV for Sen no Kiseki III by the way : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr-8b6S6HOQ
First PV for Sen no Kiseki III by the way : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr-8b6S6HOQ
ArkhamFantasy
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Sinoalice is the highest ranked SE game on jaPan iOS right now, Taro putting in work. Hope it gets localized.
GamesMaya report:
Today, there was a big new shipment of Splatoon 2 Bundle. The new releases couldn't do anything against it (Neptunia, Yomawari, Lost Child...).
Switch is still selling out everything it's shipped.
The big release of the week is tomorrow with Monster Hunter XX. A sudden rise of pre-orders happened, along with the hardware.
Today, there was a big new shipment of Splatoon 2 Bundle. The new releases couldn't do anything against it (Neptunia, Yomawari, Lost Child...).
Switch is still selling out everything it's shipped.
The big release of the week is tomorrow with Monster Hunter XX. A sudden rise of pre-orders happened, along with the hardware.
RIP *new releases* you will be missed.
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AndrewDean84xX
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Arms sales make me happy.
Good!
should be interesting. not tracking great on comgnet but seems like interest is rising. big question is the hardware bundle shipment number.
SS
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One Piece isn't even going to chart next week is it.
AdventureRacing
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So a big week is looking likely again for the switch next week. Hopefully supply doesn't drop off a cliff again and Nintendo get more supply out in the lead up to Mario and the holiday season.
MHXX is a bit of a wildcard next week. The library overall is still pretty modest and a big shipment of supply + bundles might see it sell fairly decently. All the signs have been pointing towards a poor performance but maybe it can cause a surprise.
This week might give an insight into how well the PS4 and 3DS will hold up post obon and DQ11. Expecting things to slow down quite a bit.
MHXX is a bit of a wildcard next week. The library overall is still pretty modest and a big shipment of supply + bundles might see it sell fairly decently. All the signs have been pointing towards a poor performance but maybe it can cause a surprise.
This week might give an insight into how well the PS4 and 3DS will hold up post obon and DQ11. Expecting things to slow down quite a bit.
Yagami_Sama
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That's quite interesting. Maybe something similar to what happened with the Wii U Bundle of Monster Hunter 3G.
I really hope that Double Cross surpass all expectation in order to see what Capcom reaction would be.
titiklabingapat
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It being successful will be bittersweet. You're pretty much rewarding Capcom for being incompetent asses. But you also need it to sell because of tests.
Oh, it's easy to guess.
inb4 Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 and Disney Collections are announced right after Q2 results.
I'm honestly not expecting much from MHXX, and that sudden rise of pre-orders, but let's see what happens. Maybe we could have a good surprise there.
If you do job interview in Falcom they'd proudly tell you Falcom has never been in deficit in the last 20 years. Stability is the only thing they can boast because the salary certainly is not.
So, the digital download code for MHXX rose dozens of places over the past day and now passed DQXI PS4 to become the number one daily bestseller on amazon. Is there a particular reason why the digital code is rising so much towards launch, or is that standard practice (Splatoon 2 did something similar, though not as aggressively as this)?
Caught it before the edit, I see. Damn autocorrect seems to be having a drinking problem.
Could potentially be importers. I don't know if the japanese switch eshop accepts credit cards from other countries.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm pretty sure neither Famitsu or Media Create track wine sales in Japan.
Principate
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I mean sorta. It shipped almost 1 million in the rest of the world in comparsons to 230 in japan. That's still 80% of it's shipments sold outside of Japan. Not sure about at the same period for Splatoon 1 but ltd Splatoon the proportion was more 70% of it's sales were outside Japan. So far it seems less Japan focused.
KillerMan91
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Looking at western charts is had pretty large overshipment in western markets. After decent start in US it saw pretty huge drop from June to July. It also completely vanished from European charts after few weeks (Not in top 40 in UK or top 20 in Germany)
Falcom gave up on the Vita, like Sony, they can keep their game.
Anyway the quality dropped after Ao no Kiseki, so whatever...
Good for them if they're making money. But I don't like the direction they took with their games at all.
theprodigy
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I mean it sold (and this is directly from Nintendo, therefore includes digital) 256k in June NPD while having 950k(?) shipments outside Japan, considering the usual US:ROTW ratio for Nintendo that's likely 400k+ unsold at that point (obviously they'll eventually go through it, but still).
TheLegendaryN
Member
It's not like this game would run proper on a Vita, so PS4 only is the obvious step for them.
KillerMan91
Member
Considering how crappy the previous games already run on PS3 and Vita this would had been probably on single digits even with downgrades. Hopefully we will actually get solid framerate with PS4.
Are we expecting Cyberdimension Neptunia numbers for this?