Relaxed Muscle
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You don't let the market work itself out regarding UHC. Even if you accept private healthcare (both in public funds or private), it should be a small percentage of the service.
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New Clinton postmortem of campaign includes criticism of Sanders policy promises
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You don't let the market work itself out regarding UHC. Even if you accept private healthcare (both in public funds or private), it should be a small percentage of the service.
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The UK is singlepayer in the sense that there is a single payer, although it's different to other singlepayer systems such as Canada in that it is also singe provider (the NHS), whereas Canada and Sweden have multiple private bodies that actually provide the care once commissioned.
Hierophant
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the ride never ends
ErasureAcer
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But Hillary has to make money selling books about ponies!!!
Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Cambodia, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, former Yugoslavia and the Philippines (among others) would probably all disagree just a little with the whole "uninterrupted peace" meme.
dunno if that's a bleeding heart liberal position as much as it is neocon
Red Blaster
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lol pick up a history book guy
Hierophant
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yes I love the peace that was rained down upon innocent citizens of my homeland by countless planes, very peaceful
Also the peaceful rapists and killers in the US army, v. Peaceful
neurosisxeno
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All instigated by the US, and primarily involving the US. I'm talking about Germany not invading France and England retaliating while Spain throws in with Germany or something along those lines. WWI and WWII were each quite a bit more serious than any of those conflicts of not all of them combined.
The election from her perspective is an incredibly interesting and historically relevant thing to have down on paper. Stop acting like she is doing something wrong talking about her own life.
A bit more serious to whom?
these days the bad guys just massacre their own populations with US money and weapons
much better, especially since they're by and large poor brown people and not western europeans
Relaxed Muscle
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I think the merit of that is ours, Europe, not of your military forces.
Umm, what?
Lys Skygge
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Damn, some of those excerpts from her book are great! Might actually buy it when it releases.
Hierophant
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What decides seriousness of a war or is this tales from my ass?
155 million people in the US are covered by private employer-sponsored health care plans: https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/num...-via-jobs-remained-steady-with-obamacare.html
This is a very, very difficult system to unwind and disentangle.
Bonen no Max'd
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the European Coal and Steel Community has substantially more to do with reductions in casualties of European wars than the American military
I think you can make a very good argument that modern Europe came into existence partially as a result of the protection of the US military.
But this isn't the thread for that discussion.
Google the Cold War please. Most of Europe would be speaking Russian if it wasn't for the US military.
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Relaxed Muscle
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Pure fanfiction.
Intheflorsh
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Fewer people have died in state verus state armed conflict yes but the number of genocides and ethnic cleansing has been significant. It just happens in places the US doesn't care about so they don't stop a few million people from getting killed. I'm willing to bet most people don't even know t that there is active genocide in places like myanmar and almost no chance the US military will do anything about it.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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It's less about the book and more about gaf here. This thread is downright shameful. The epitome of privilege. Trump is destroying lives and everyone is shitting on each other. It's unfortunately typical of the left and really depressing.
It's not "the primaries." It's a battle between the progressive wing and the establishment wing of the Democratic Party, and it won't end until one of them has the presidency.
sturgboski
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Thank you for getting it completely wrong. I mean shit Bernie said ended up word for word in Trump ads and rallies. Really the point is that no matter what Hillary did it was always "look at this bitch eating crackers" to a percentage of folks coupled with Bernie staying in past the point he had no chance of winning AND still attacking her. I'm fine he stayed in, it's him keeping his word. But when he had no chance other than something catastrophic happening to Hillary, he should have cut the shit with attacks (I blame that goateed bald dude who kept sending out all the fundraiser emails the most for this, it's why I unsubscribed to his newsletter).
What would you recommend we do to stop Trump from destroying lives? Hopefully the DNC realizes the huge mistakes it made but there really isn't muhc we can do until midterms.
madstarr12
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Careful with tossing aside the deep south as a "republican stronghold" and therefore not being a big deal for democrats. We should remember about state senate seats, assembly, representatives, secretary of state, governor, and a whole range of government positions in which elections are held for. Sure in presidential politics states like Mississippi and Alabama are crazy red, but there are individual pockets of blue in some parts of the state that Democrats should do what they can to defend, and make attempts at expanding the little blue spots that exist in an otherwise red sea.
dynamitejim
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He and his surrogates and his bigger supporters in the media ran a successful bomb throwing campaign and a shitty electoral campaign. Which is why his hardcore supporters believe in a conspiracy theory of nationwide campaign rigging by an organization they also think is incredibly incompetent rather than the reality that he got blown out in a landslide by actual voters.
And the bomb throwing campaign didn't end after the Primary and is still ongoing.
You're asking a business to go out of business.
Arrogant Bastard
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So never.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
But, that's like a battle between 2 types of oranges.
There is so little difference between the policy goals.
sturgboski
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So Bernie's criticisms were effective and resonated with voters. Of course Trump took them. Your whole post sounds a lot like Bernie shouldn't have criticized her and let her win because the criticisms were too good and made her look bad.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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The way the talk in here is framed just leads to sour grapes and apathy. I don't really see any of this as constructive discussion and more just shit flinging. I really hope gaf doesn't represent the rest of the Democratic base, because if it does, we're screwed
People are STILL fighting over who lost the best. Sigh.
sturgboski
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Last few sentences I explained that it was because he kept up the attacks and in some cases escalated AFTER super Tuesday when it was a guarantee he would NOT get the nomination but for intervention of God. That is where I take umbrage.
Edit: And yes I know he eventually said "vote for her" but he took too long on that AND I think back to the DNC where his supporters were crying and upset he went on so late, thinking it a snub, but not realizing the time slot was an honor.
It's not fanfiction that the ussr would have liked to have moved as far west immediately after ww2 as possible
Relaxed Muscle
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Considering the racial makeup of Southern Democrats, this is more than just a little racist.
cheezcake
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Clinton did far, far worse to Obama in '08
Which makes this thing just seem incredibly petty and disingenuous, she knows the game, she got dirty as fuck in her previous primary, and now she's playing the victim and trying to take the high ground.
But seriously I shouldn't care and neither should anyone. Hillary Clinton is not an important person anymore, she's entirely irrelevant.
serious question, have you read a single post-secondary text on the cold war
sturgboski
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We can't expect the left to realize it's a two party system and the only way to "win" is to ensure the Republicans lose even AFTER this election. So no.
I get it sucks to see what looks like people just flinging shit at each other (which i fully admit i'm occasionally guilty of). I'd argue that people fighting for the direction of the party is better than tuning out of politics completely as long as they for for the liberal candidate most likely to win in the midterms.
Fight tooth and nail to shape party policy now then turn up to vote.
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