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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2017 (Sep 04 - Sep 10)

jnWake

Member
Zelda DLC will probably have its own announcement just like the first one had.

Builders trailer really confused me. I thought it was DQB2 but they had just named it DQB since the first one wasn't on Switch. Now I come here and realize it was DQB1 all along haha.

IMO the Direct was fine but I was surprised to see no big surprise from Nintendo themselves. I guess they have no need for that atm.
 

vern

Member
same, I'm glad. Not into that Yoshi game and I thought it was going to be earlier since it had a live Demo.


Also, need octopath. I'm going to try out the trailer. Glad I bought a switch a few days ago despite getting no games lol


The direct was good. Bethesda came out of no where. Xeno looks great and is hitting 2017. Mario.....wow.

The only thing was I was surprised about was Zelda DLC hasn't gotten detailed yet

Bethesda didn't really come out of nowhere lol. I think everyone was expecting at least one game announced by them at the direct. Everyone thought fallout though 😂
 

Xbro

Member
They just said the Champions Amiibos come out on November 11th. I think we can expect the DLC around that time as well.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Bethesda didn't really come out of nowhere lol. I think everyone was expecting at least one game announced by them at the direct. Everyone thought fallout though 😂

where did the fallout stuff come from anyway?

well, Doom and Wolfenstein came out of nowhere for me. I would've predicted a FROM announcement before that.
 
where did the fallout stuff come from anyway?

well, Doom and Wolfenstein came out of nowhere for me. I would've predicted a FROM announcement before that.

Bethesda was teasing some port announcements recently so people guessed Fallout 4 instead of Doom because of retailer listings.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
So still no tales or Taiko even if they should hit he market within next March

No From game (based on the famous slide of publishers)

No blazelue (officially announced in january)

No Capcom game despite they saying they will to inuse more the switch in their multiplatform development and they working to adapt the RE engine

No new Koei game despite them assuring that Switch is fully compatible with their in house engine and keen to develop switch games one after he other even with exclusive games
No Konami game despite bomberman success

No platinum game despite them being at work for Switch (not sure this could be counted as third party)

Still no news about DQXI (but at least SE is actively developing for the console)

No Level 5 games despite Inazuma heavily teased and Musashi disappeared since months
 

Mory Dunz

Member
So still no tales or Taiko even if they should hit he market within next March

No From game (based on the famous slide of publishers)

No blazelue (officially announced in january)

No Capcom game despite they saying they will to inuse more the switch in their multiplatform development and they working to adapt the RE engine

No new Koei game despite them assuring that Switch is fully compatible with their in house engine and keen to develop switch games one after he other even with exclusive games
No Konami game despite bomberman success

No platinum game despite them being at work for Switch (not sure this could be counted as third party)

Still no news about DQXI (but at least SE is actively developing for the console)

No Level 5 games despite Inazuma heavily teased and Musashi disappeared since months

!!
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
So still no tales or Taiko even if they should hit he market within next March

No From game (based on the famous slide of publishers)

No blazelue (officially announced in january)

No Capcom game despite they saying they will to inuse more the switch in their multiplatform development and they working to adapt the RE engine

No new Koei game despite them assuring that Switch is fully compatible with their in house engine and keen to develop switch games one after he other even with exclusive games
No Konami game despite bomberman success

No platinum game despite them being at work for Switch (not sure this could be counted as third party)

Still no news about DQXI (but at least SE is actively developing for the console)

No Level 5 games despite Inazuma heavily teased and Musashi disappeared since months

So basically Japanese developers are generally slow. Nice to this specific industry didn't radically change overnight.
 
It's kind of impressive how Japanese third-party publishers bungled this first year, whereas Western third parties, which had a lot more to be cautious about, have been doing fine. Their releases make sense and seem to be high quality. Meanwhile, it seems like most Japanese publishers expected another Wii U and not yet another successful Nintendo handheld.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
It's kind of impressive how Japanese third-party publishers bungled this first year, whereas Western third parties, which had a lot more to be cautious about, have been doing fine. Their releases make sense and seem to be high quality. Meanwhile, it seems like most Japanese publishers expected another Wii U and not yet another successful Nintendo handheld.

Not really a surprise western 3rd parties are generally competent and invest in the future success of the traditional industry I.e they're generally there at launch day and date for consoles likely to support there user base and are actively looking to expand said userbase. Japanese publishers seem more willing to jump ship and ditch it at the first sign of trouble, likely for mobile rather than take much intial risk. It's why they were slow to even properly support the ps4 despite it's worst case scenario being success overseas.

Basically in general they don't seem to be invested in the success of the local market and dedicated platforms. They'll take advantage of a profitable platform but are less willing to invest in insuring theirs a profitable platform.
 
I knew JP pubs/devs were slow to adapt to new platforms but I never would've thought that there would be more meaningful western third party support than japanese. Mind-blowing really and yeah L5 is kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place with 3DS dying, them not getting the mobile titles out and seemingly nothing substantial to show on NSW atm.
 

Sandfox

Member
I knew JP pubs/devs were slow to adapt to new platforms but I never would've thought that there would be more meaningful western third party support than japanese. Mind-blowing really and yeah L5 is kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place with 3DS dying, them not getting the mobile titles out and seemingly nothing substantial to show on NSW atm.

It's their fault for coasting after the success of YW and then trying to create a million projects at once.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
When people complain about the lack of jpn 3rdParty news....are you guys complaining about the announcements or releases ? Not announcing the games this early when there is no need to makes sense. Unless you have some big Switch title for the Holiday why unveil/announce it now when the the focus/hype will be around all the first party releases already hitting this year.

We have seen the last couple years that many JP publishers have used the febr/march timeframe to drop alot of project...especially in march we get alot of releases.

Its much more likely that there titles planned for the next 6 months that just arent announced early to keep the time between announcement and release short. The Switch installed base worldwide will be twice as big after the Holidays and releases wont be competing directly with Nintendos big gun and other big fall releases on consoles.

I think we will have a early January Direct where games will be announced that hit in that timeframe until march. Its all about keeping the momentum going.
 

OhMyGod

Neo Member
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So still no tales or Taiko even if they should hit he market within next March

No From game (based on the famous slide of publishers)

No blazelue (officially announced in january)

No Capcom game despite they saying they will to inuse more the switch in their multiplatform development and they working to adapt the RE engine

No new Koei game despite them assuring that Switch is fully compatible with their in house engine and keen to develop switch games one after he other even with exclusive games
No Konami game despite bomberman success

No platinum game despite them being at work for Switch (not sure this could be counted as third party)

Still no news about DQXI (but at least SE is actively developing for the console)

No Level 5 games despite Inazuma heavily teased and Musashi disappeared since months
ugh
 
I thought this was a pretty fun Direct man. I never buy into people's hype when it comes to Nintendo and I learned my lessons to dial back hype in general.

Bethesda to me was defintely the biggest surprise and nice to seeing a Western publisher to embrace the Switch. I think Doom should run decently, curious about Wolfenstein though. But both games I'd rather play on PC, but it's good to have options.
 

Zalman

Member
The Switch's 2017 lineup has been consistently great, but I'm starting to think about how they will maintain the momentum going into 2018. Kirby Star Allies is coming out in spring (likely late spring considering Battle Royale is January in Europe). No signs of Yoshi in the Direct. I wonder what they have up their sleeves for Q1/Q2.
 
I hope so much that TGS is where we'll see more Switch support from publishers. NIS is due at any point I feel to be announcing more stuff (shocked that Penny Punching Princess and Longest 5 Minutes aren't announced for Japan yet are they?). KT should have a couple of 2018 Switch games to show soon enough (they have none as far as I know as of yet).

On the western side, WHERE is Ubisoft with their claim of announcing more Switch games "soon"? Not at Gamescom, not at PAX, not in the Direct, when else can they do this? Really bizarre. Speaking of, I feel The Division is very likely for Switch, since they got the engine working beautifully, and Doom and Wolfenstein 2 shows that AAA games can definitely work on Switch. Sure there's the online thing to work around, but hey, Steep is (still) coming and that's online-only, so what's stopping them? Not to mention it's what, their biggest success in forever?

Edit: Back to Japan, surely Fate/Extella Link is Switch-bound since they got the original out on Switch. Why have they been quiet on the platforms for this game?
 

random25

Member
The Switch's 2017 lineup has been consistently great, but I'm starting to think about how they will maintain the momentum going into 2018. Kirby Star Allies is coming out in spring (likely late spring considering Battle Royale is January in Europe). No signs of Yoshi in the Direct. I wonder what they have up their sleeves for Q1/Q2.

Splatoon 2 will still probably carry the tide till the first half of 2018. There are still some big franchises left to maintain the momentum for the entirety of next year, like Fire Emblem, Kirby and maybe Smash Bros.
 
Splatoon 2 will still probably carry the tide till the first half of 2018. There are still some big franchises left to maintain the momentum for the entirety of next year, like Fire Emblem, Kirby and maybe Smash Bros.

I imagine animal Crossing will be announced next year.

Then Japan will collapse.
 

Xbro

Member
17./17. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 3.704 / 236.114 (-8%)


It never stops
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
I hope so much that TGS is where we'll see more Switch support from publishers. NIS is due at any point I feel to be announcing more stuff (shocked that Penny Punching Princess and Longest 5 Minutes aren't announced for Japan yet are they?). KT should have a couple of 2018 Switch games to show soon enough (they have none as far as I know as of yet).

On the western side, WHERE is Ubisoft with their claim of announcing more Switch games "soon"? Not at Gamescom, not at PAX, not in the Direct, when else can they do this? Really bizarre. Speaking of, I feel The Division is very likely for Switch, since they got the engine working beautifully, and Doom and Wolfenstein 2 shows that AAA games can definitely work on Switch. Sure there's the online thing to work around, but hey, Steep is (still) coming and that's online-only, so what's stopping them? Not to mention it's what, their biggest success in forever?

They just released Battle Kingdom and Rayman....we know they are working on more Switch content. You expect every publisher to announce/show off 10 new Switch games when they wont be out before 2018 and they would rather focus on their big Holiday titles ?

Switch hasnt even sold 10m yet, but reading this thread would make you think that publishers are ignoring a 100m userbase because they arent dropping everything all their plans to announce Switch games.

I could understand this reaction if a) Switch was under performing and just like PS4 needed those announcements as early as possible to convince buyers that this system has a future or will be relevant sooner or later or b) from casual gamers who just dont know better and arent that interested in the decryption of Hinos secret messages or Platinum Games tweets. But 90% of people posting here should know better.
 

D.Lo

Member
The ridiculous thing for Japanese focused pubs/devs is that after the 3DS, and failure of PS4, surely they should have been clinging to the NSW for dear life from day -1.

To me it was obvious from reveal that it was the ultimate console for Japan. It's 3DS+PSP+Wii+PS3, aka a combination of every single thing released that sold over 10 million in the last decade.

Without NSW Japan had no hope for dedicated devices. PS4 is second tier at best, Vita is Sega tier. NSW is a 3DS successor with Splatoon, and is selling exactly as would be expected for such a device in Japan.
 

jonno394

Member
The Switch's 2017 lineup has been consistently great, but I'm starting to think about how they will maintain the momentum going into 2018. Kirby Star Allies is coming out in spring (likely late spring considering Battle Royale is January in Europe). No signs of Yoshi in the Direct. I wonder what they have up their sleeves for Q1/Q2.

I honestly think 2018 will be a bit quieter from Nintendo themselves. I feel they've got as much big software out in year 1 as possible to try and make this thing a success from the off to convince third parties to get on board, and thus pick up some of the slack in year 2 onwards.

I think 2018 from Nintendo will be Kirby, Yoshi, Fire Emblem, some wii u ports and probably Pikmin and Animal Crossing. Not a patch on 2017, but the hope is we'll see more good third party stuff post summer next year.
 
I think it will be "announced" when they show off the mobile game, which is supposed to release by the end of the year.

IMO plans have changed concerning this. It should be more efficient to launch the app like sring 2018 to create some brand awareness and then announce the game which could be tied somehow to the app and launch it summer 2018.

I can't see the app coming this year but we should know more at the next Q&A. Isn't there one end of september? Profits from the switch should calm down investors and distract them from an AC mobile delay... Just my 2 cents anyway
 

fortunato

Banned
Why should not Platinum be considered a third party?

Btw, Switch holiday game will be Splatoon 2. No need for any other game. Better save for Q1+Q2 2017.
 

Oregano

Member
I'm about to head to work so I won't be able to post it for most of the day but I think if we compare Switch's first TGS to Vita's or PS4's it'll will become clear just how dire support is. Japanese third parties can be slow but at this point it doesn't even look like they've even begun to consider Switch.

Square Enix is the only Japanese third party who seems like they were ready and willing to support Switch.
 

jonno394

Member
I'm about to head to work so I won't be able to post it for most of the day but I think if we compare Switch's first TGS to Vita's or PS4's it'll will become clear just how dire support is. Japanese third parties can be slow but at this point it doesn't even look like they've even begun to consider Switch.

Square Enix is the only Japanese third party who seems like they were ready and willing to support Switch.

And Konami, who were there day 1.....

let's see what TGS brings regarding JPN support before completely writing it off!
 
I'm about to head to work so I won't be able to post it for most of the day but I think if we compare Switch's first TGS to Vita's or PS4's it'll will become clear just how dire support is. Japanese third parties can be slow but at this point it doesn't even look like they've even begun to consider Switch.

Square Enix is the only Japanese third party who seems like they were ready and willing to support Switch.

They can't ignore Switch sales forever though. I think it's obvious that a lot of Japanese publishers saw the Switch as more a WiiU successor than a 3DS one.
 

Oregano

Member
And Konami, who were there day 1.....

let's see what TGS brings regarding JPN support before completely writing it off!

Last night's direct was basically their equivalent of a TGS presentation. Any substantial announcement would have been there.

They can't ignore Switch sales forever though. I think it's obvious that a lot of Japanese publishers saw the Switch as more a WiiU successor than a 3DS one.

Even if that's true it's going to be 2019 before anything comes of it.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Even if that's true it's going to be 2019 before anything comes of it.

You know that not true but keep going on.

What are the big japanese 3rdParty PS4 games announced for April 2018 - March 2019 ?

You would have to ignore most of the information we have to come to this conclusion.

I think that's what will happen. Late 2018 or 2019 will be the time most JP devs get on board. I mean, where else will they go after 3DS is completely dead?
They are already on board. Most of them have left 3DS already and are on PS4/Mobile.
The 3DS isnt really a factor for anyone who want to develop a HD game and a release post 2017.
 
A combination of lack of faith before launch and bad development pipelines is what explains the lack of Japanese third-party support.

DQB in Spring 2018 is great. DQB2 was already announced for a 2018 release. Hopefully those release not too close to each other.

I'm a bit disappointed tbh. There's a lot of new info of games we already knew were coming, but a lack of new major announcements. Nintenfo had more first-party reveals for 3DS than Switch... I don't want to preach doom and gloom (although DOOM is great ;p), but the Direct was a bit underwhelming imo.
 

Oregano

Member
I think that's what will happen. Late 2018 or 2019 will be the time most JP devs get on board. I mean, where else will they go after 3DS is completely dead?

The only third party still making 3DS game is Atlus. Everyone else moved on long ago.

You know that not true but keep going on.

What are the big japanese 3rdParty PS4 games announced for April 2018 - March 2019 ?

You would have to ignore most of the information we have to come to this conclusion.


They are already on board. Most of them have left 3DS already and are on PS4/Mobile.
The 3DS isnt really a factor for anyone who want to develop a HD game and a release post 2017.

Maybe we should wait until Sony does their TGS presentation considering Nintendo has had their equivalent. We can ignore the fact Sony still has Paris Game Week and PSX to announce stuff too.

Also most actual, confirmed information points to traditional JP Publishers having next to nothing for Switch, and what they do have are rereleases. Bandai Namco has yet to announce an actual new release if I'm not mistaken, and they are the biggest third party who release the most games.

PS a hint from a publisher who is incapable of timely releasing anything but yearly rehashes of a brand they crashed in the space of two years is worth nothing.
 

casiopao

Member
So still no tales or Taiko even if they should hit he market within next March

No From game (based on the famous slide of publishers)

No blazelue (officially announced in january)

No Capcom game despite they saying they will to inuse more the switch in their multiplatform development and they working to adapt the RE engine

No new Koei game despite them assuring that Switch is fully compatible with their in house engine and keen to develop switch games one after he other even with exclusive games
No Konami game despite bomberman success

No platinum game despite them being at work for Switch (not sure this could be counted as third party)

Still no news about DQXI (but at least SE is actively developing for the console)

No Level 5 games despite Inazuma heavily teased and Musashi disappeared since months

Switchdoomed guys. Nintendo should just give up lol.
 

fortunato

Banned
The only third party still making 3DS game is Atlus. Everyone else moved on long ago.

In 2017, Capcom has had Monster Hunter XX, The Great Ace Attorney 2 and Apollo Justice. Square Enix has had Dragon Quest IX and Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 Professional. Level-5 has had The Snack World, Layton's Mystery Journey and Yo-kai Watch Busters 2. Namco Bandai a new Dragon Ball Heroes and the Baseball game.
 

Vena

Member
So still no tales or Taiko even if they should hit he market within next March

No From game (based on the famous slide of publishers)

No blazelue (officially announced in january)

No Capcom game despite they saying they will to inuse more the switch in their multiplatform development and they working to adapt the RE engine

No new Koei game despite them assuring that Switch is fully compatible with their in house engine and keen to develop switch games one after he other even with exclusive games
No Konami game despite bomberman success

No platinum game despite them being at work for Switch (not sure this could be counted as third party)

Still no news about DQXI (but at least SE is actively developing for the console)

No Level 5 games despite Inazuma heavily teased and Musashi disappeared since months

Some of these are just mind numbing straws to grasp. Like why even put From on here or Tales? Or even BB? You're damn desperate to keep this stupid narrative going.
 

hiska-kun

Member
I haven't read all the messages yet, so sorry if it was already posted.

According to Nintendo japanese website, Splatoon 2 Bundle production for this year has already finished.

So I guess the announced Mario or another bundle will replace Splatoon 2.
 
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