Yeah... I should have probably say fascism (as in benefit for the few at great expense of all others) as that would cover a lot more than a specific concept.
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Armband-wearing Nazi roams Seattle instigating, gets KOed, removes armband and leaves
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Yeah... I should have probably say fascism (as in benefit for the few at great expense of all others) as that would cover a lot more than a specific concept.
Really? He'll often talk about how he grew up in a backwards town and had to unlearn a lot of shit attitudes and how hard it was/is, if that's what you mean. What did he do/say?
BotoxAgent
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Whoever that guy is who punched the nazi, I wanna buy him a steak dinner
MistakenMobius
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Well if you are living in a civilised country, you call the police and they get arrested (and Nazi as well would be)
But there is a lot of de radicalisation program for ISIS fighter while they should be exterminated as the Nazi like they are.
Devilinthiscity
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Funny you say that, because I'm sure a lot of those people who are always coming to the non violence defense/free speech angle would have next to nothing to say if some dude was going around spouting hate while touting a ISIS flag. That shit wouldn't be tolerated and neither should Nazi scum.
MarkMclovin
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Being a black dude, I doubt any info at all is needed.
Said Muslims were just like Nazis but then wouldn't explain why he thought that generalization was correct and you know he'd be all over our dicks if we called White America or Christian America a bunch of Nazis. Hypocrite to the max.
Netherscourge
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Hypothetical:
What if Nazi guy was a girl and everything else in the video is exactly the same.
She gets surrounded by 3 or 4 guys and one of them punches her out.
Does anyone's opinion of the situation change?
What if Nazi guy was a girl and everything else in the video is exactly the same.
She gets surrounded by 3 or 4 guys and one of them punches her out.
Does anyone's opinion of the situation change?
It's questions like these that make me realise that I haven't completely eradicated sexism from my system
No?
If you walk around proudly aligning yourself with genocide and human debasement, I'll shed no tears if you catch a punch.
Impeccable
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Now what if that woman was pregnant? But the baby was a nazi?
Still deserves to be knocked out.
I don't recall claiming that "if you let X happen, then this other terrible thing will happen."
I have been arguing a variety of points, sone of which are not related to each other:
0. Nazis ought to be silenced.
1. The rule of law is superior to mob justice and worth supporting.
2. There were laws that were likely applicable to this situation.
3. Those laws have been enforced in Washington state.
4. How Nazis were beaten mid 20th century depends on what stage the conflict was at.
5. When the allies were in a position to enforce their laws rather than summarily shoot people they did. (the Nuremburg point)
6. As implied by 2 and 3 above, enforcing law the Nazi on this corner did not require the physical force that so many people seem to think is analogous to liberating the Netherlands or something.
7. It is wrong to think that, as some seem to be arguing, Nazis are fundamentally different than you or me. As demonstrated throughout the world in the last 120 years and the study of the atrocities during those years, we all have the capacity for great evil, but just need the wrong circumstamces to bring it out.
8. 7 is one of the reasons why mob justice is so abhorrent.
RurouniZel
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I woke up feeling like shit but watching a video of a nazi getting KO'ed in one punch made me feel much better. Thank you.
karmaforgotme
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I wouldn't punch a woman I know is pregnant because I consider the pregnancy a disability. I don't think I could actually punch a mentally disabled nazi. I wouldn't be able to tell if they were supporting because they want to or someone was fucking with their heads. I'd a 100% wheel lock a wheel-chair bound one though or steal their cane or cuss them out.
I don't think it would be ok for a guy to chin check a woman. Even if she's a racist bitch. Would hope another woman would step in honestly.
psychowave
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I dunno I'm p sure I haven't ever wanted to exterminate all jews but maybe that's just me
Naaaaaah, fuck that. That is factually false. Intolerance should not ever be fucking tolerated. That's how those movements grow and fester.
Not at all. Punch that fucking Nazi. Nazis are motherfucking Nazis, their gender doesn't matter.
PhantomThief
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Haha sweet justice for this stupid douchebag.
Isaac Otherworld
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I love stories with happy endings.
Whompa02
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I would feel bad as bad for the girl as I do for the guy for being so brainwashed into Nazi culture. But the scenario is unrealistic anyway as no single girl would walk around by herself and harasses people on a bus.
I guess they took/take the Political Correctness way a bit too far.
Glass Rebel
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Hypothetical:
What if you came into this thread and made a post that's not disingenuous and everything else in the thread is exactly the same.
Nobody quotes you, you go on with your life.
Does anyone think you made a stupid ass hypothetical?
Not like right leaning sympathizers don't often use the language of the left when they cry foul
It like... maybe he learned his lesson and will become a productive member of society! All from a single punch.
4 is a cutie
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Do you believe people are born evil?
Some of the credit for this can be blamed/credited on him being drugged out of his freaking mind, the guy was hooked on various drugs by the end. Hell his doctor who gave him everything and I do mean everything that included bull semen.
It's pretty funny really.
Drugs was actually one of the reason German troops were able to march as far and long as they did.
Chuckie
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Hypothetical:
If Hitler was a hot girl and everything she did was exactly the same.
A couple of countries bomb the shit out of her and her army.
Does anyone's opinion of the situation change?
Netherscourge
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And now, Hypothetical Question B:
Nazi Guy or Nazi Girl gets surrounded by 3 or 4 guys.
But instead of punching him/her out, they sexually assault him/her.
Does your opinion of that situation change?
I'm curious where people would draw the line, if at all.
Nazi Guy or Nazi Girl gets surrounded by 3 or 4 guys.
But instead of punching him/her out, they sexually assault him/her.
Does your opinion of that situation change?
I'm curious where people would draw the line, if at all.
fabricated backlash
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No, play shit games, win shit prices. To cite Drill Sergeant Hartman: "To me you're all equally worthless."
psychowave
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Are you trying to paint nazis as victims of their upbringing? They're fucking nazis. I can understand being a little racist because of your upbringing (tho even then with the Internet it should be pretty easy to educate yourself), but being a nazi? Nope. They should be glad to get away with just a punch to the face.
Alligatorjandro
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Violence is the only thing that causes change
Netherscourge
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I'm trying to guage what people find acceptable when it comes to vigilante violence.
What is an acceptable response vs. what is not.
You don't have to answer it if it makes you uncomfortable. It's just a hypothetical question.
ramoisdead
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Keeping it real? Moar liek when keeping it hypothetical goes wrong.
Impeccable
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... why are you doing this..
Lord of Ostia
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Are you suggesting that people would condone sexual assault just because the person is a self-described Nazi? I mean this is an insane false equivalence, there is a huge difference between taking a single punch and being gang-raped. Not even sure why you would ask this to be honest, of course no one would be ok with that.
Can you do that in your own thread?
Always-honest
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Absolutely agree. But that doesn't have to mean that you use violence.
Don't get me wrong, i also have the same sadistic urges as the next guy when i see intolerance in the shape of a racist or a neonazi. But i just think we need to try and stand above that. Legislation should be constructed in a way that intolerance isn't accepted in any way.
And the punishment should not be just jail-time but also a long period of education and reintegration.
edit: lol at the Hypothetical posts...
Glass Rebel
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To what end?
You should probably stop.
Rapists vs Nazis huh.
Wearing a swastika and harassing people on public transit are choices that have consequences.
Everybody who comes into these threads decrying violence seems to fail to provide doable alternative forms of punishment for abhorrent acts of free will.
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