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NoA: Fire Emblem Warriors Season Pass detailed, Awakening now a "classic game"

CEJames

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Lol... Same for some reason I though the season pass would be 40bucks but then again that's how much the whole game will cost on 3DS.

20 bucks isn't that bad compared to other season pass prices.

That didn't stop them from making the DLC pass for Echoes more than the game itself.
 
Will there be a demo available for this game, has anyone heard?

I never played a musou type game. Or never even played a Fire Emblem game. So i really dont know a whole lot about either series. But i really like the character designs so much im curious and wanna give this a try.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Don't really get the hype for Alm. They already gave Celica Marth's moveset. They'd just do the same with Alm.

He pretty much has 0 appeal outside of Kyle McCarley's amazing voice.

And I guess TWIN LIONS.

But seriously, the "we need Alm because Celica's is in" posts are strange. I know Echoes conditioned most players into thinking otherwise, but Celica can stand on her own.
 

SolVanderlyn

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I'd be ok with Alm because Alm is one of the more interesting protagonists in the series, IMO. Design wise and personality wise. He's not a total vanilla hero like Marth, Eliwood, Roy etc. or a gung-ho hotblooded hero like Hector, Ike etc. He's a pragmatic yet noble person, more down to earth than usual. I mean, he's not super exceptional, especially compared to other fantasy protagonists, but for a Fire Emblem lead, he's different enough. His emerald hair is cool too.

Ephraim is really my top choice for this game, mainly due to his badass fighting style that's different from other heroes, and then Hector for the same reason. But I highly, highly doubt either character will get in, and we'll get Roy and Ike as DLC characters outside of the three main games being featured, if we get any more at all.
 
Will probably wait until march to get the game then. Want to see what characters are in those 3 packs because the main game is not that interesting for me.

There were some surprsing and fun characters in the huryle warriors dlc, and TONS of new stuff, so im caustiously optimistic.
 

NSESN

Member
He pretty much has 0 appeal outside of Kyle McCarley's amazing voice.

And I guess TWIN LIONS.

But seriously, the "we need Alm because Celica's is in" posts are strange. I know Echoes conditioned most players into thinking otherwise, but Celica can stand on her own.

I disagree. It isn't about Celica standing on her own, it is about the game being the story of both and not only Celica. It is like adding only Ephraim in the game, or only adding Lyn(That they already did).

They even used the same argument to add Lissa in the game.
 

Draxal

Member
I disagree. It isn't about Celica standing on her own, it is about the game being the story of both and not only Celica. It is like adding only Ephraim in the game, or only adding Lyn(That they already did).

They even used the same argument to add Lissa in the game.

Lyn works by herself.

Hector/Eliwood are the linked pair.

As for Alm, I like Alm but a problem with fire emblem is that its get very hard to distinguish personalities, so I can't really say hes that much different from say a Chrom. The oddball personalities do stick out more.
 

Lunar15

Member
He pretty much has 0 appeal outside of Kyle McCarley's amazing voice.

And I guess TWIN LIONS.

But seriously, the "we need Alm because Celica's is in" posts are strange. I know Echoes conditioned most players into thinking otherwise, but Celica can stand on her own.

Nah, I know you got some Alm beef, but he's a fun character. Is that due mainly to 8-4's stellar localization? Probably. But should he come along with Celica? It'd be nice.

That said, I'm not quite sure even having Celica at this point makes sense if they're not even going to give her a moveset that better reflects her abilities. The special is nice, but other than that it's a bit of a disappointment. She could have been a really unique character.
 

PK Gaming

Member
I'd be ok with Alm because Alm is one of the more interesting protagonists in the series, IMO. Design wise and personality wise. He's not a total vanilla hero like Marth, Eliwood, Roy etc. or a gung-ho hotblooded hero like Hector, Ike etc. He's a pragmatic yet noble person, more down to earth than usual. I mean, he's not super exceptional, especially compared to other fantasy protagonists, but for a Fire Emblem lead, he's different enough. His emerald hair is cool too.

Ephraim is really my top choice for this game, mainly due to his badass fighting style that's different from other heroes, and then Hector for the same reason. But I highly, highly doubt either character will get in, and we'll get Roy and Ike as DLC characters outside of the three main games being featured, if we get any more at all.

I don't fully disagree with your sentiment, but none of what made Alm good (noted humble personality, goofy puns, etc) would translate into this game. Purely from a moveset perspective he's just another sword guy... a left-handed sword guy, but nonetheless still a sword guy. There's nothing that makes him more deserving than Hector/Ephraim, and Celica's inclusion isn't really an excuse.
 
Alm is a cool character, one of the better lords in the series in terms of characterization and personality. He's also a really good unit. He doesn't fight with a rapier either, and is more heavily armored than most sword units. He's more akin to a mercenary/hero, beefier, tankier sword unit who wields a larger and heavier blade. Basically in between Marth and Ike.
 

Lunar15

Member
I don't fully disagree with your sentiment, but none of what made Alm good (noted humble personality, goofy puns, etc) would translate into this game. Purely from a moveset perspective he's just another sword guy... a left-handed sword guy, but nonetheless still a sword guy. There's nothing that makes him more deserving than Hector/Ephraim, and Celica's inclusion isn't really an excuse.

Yes, Alm would be near the bottom of the list that people that probably should have made this game, and that includes characters from fates/awakening/shadow dragon. That there's such odd omissions even from those games is kinda funny.

I just wish Fates hadn't had so many damn family members, lol. That's complicating everything because they have to bring all of them every time. Most of the games have 3-4 core characters, but fates has 10 (if you count Azura)
 

Draxal

Member
Yes, Alm would be near the bottom of the list that people that probably should have made this game, and that includes characters from fates/awakening/shadow dragon. That there's such odd omissions even from those games is kinda funny.

I just wish Fates hadn't had so many damn family members, lol. That's complicating everything because they have to bring all of them every time.

The fates family members really annoys me, because nobody makes a big deal about say Emmeryn, Elice, Lissa, Mist (although she's not a princess), Ethlyn, or Altena (sigggghhhh).

The only other "sister" character that was a big deal was Eirika before this, and I guess Julia but Julia's a special case.
 

PK Gaming

Member
I just wish Fates hadn't had so many damn family members, lol. That's complicating everything because they have to bring all of them every time. Most of the games have 3-4 core characters, but fates has 10 (if you count Azura)

They honestly didn't need to add every single member of the Fates fam. The fact they're all in is good for people who liked them (and I did) but it cost such a massive part of the roster, I can't help but look at the Fates section with a bit of disdain.

The game's roster is too indulgent for its own good.
 

Lunar15

Member
The fates family members really annoys me, because nobody makes a big deal about say Emmeryn, Elice, Lissa, Mist (although she's not a princess), Ethlyn, or Altena (sigggghhhh).

The only other "sister" character that was a big deal was Eirika before this, and I guess Julia but Julia's a special case.

I think there's always a focus on a "core cast". That can be bigger or smaller depending on the game, but you can always tell which characters are the focus because they stay relevant throughout the entire game even though there's permadeath. Or just due to promotion. Basically it's, "who is on the boxart". For Sacred stones, that's just Ephriam and Erika. For PoR, it's arguably Ike, Soren, Titania, & Mist. For SD, it's Marth, Caeda, and Tiki. (maybe jaegan, but that's just due to the archetype being so well known by the fanbase). For Fates it's prominently both royal families.

They honestly didn't need to add every single member of the Fates fam. The fact they're all in is good for people who liked them (and I did) but it cost such a massive part of the roster, I can't help but look at the Fates section with a bit of disdain.

The game's roster is too indulgent for its own good.

Well, no, they don't. But it's also not surprising at all. That cast is really popular because Nintendo focused heavily on them. In the game, in promotion, in spinoffs and Heroes. They're core to what Fates is, even if half of them are, honestly, extremely forgettable.

It's also worth noting that they probably started this game either right around when Fates came out our while it was still in development, and they were banking on that being the hot property (which, it was). Everyone whines about the character polls and heroes and all that, but that stuff wasn't even a blip on the radar when they were developing this game.

For as much as I don't like this roster, it makes total sense to me outside of a few weird omissions. In a perfect world that was catered to me, it'd be a celebration of the entire series. But in the real world where Fire Emblem is popular due to these three games, it's gonna focus on those. However, I am curious about whether or not Fates burned some of the newer fans out. Low sales of Echoes shouldn't be that surprising, but I personally wonder if it's going to carry over to the next game, or if just having it on the switch will make a huge impact.
 

NSESN

Member
They honestly didn't need to add every single member of the Fates fam. The fact they're all in is good for people who liked them (and I did) but it cost such a massive part of the roster, I can't help but look at the Fates section with a bit of disdain.

The game's roster is too indulgent for its own good.

They could cut Elise and Sakura, and maybe make Xander and Takumi enemies that are later unlocked..
 

Nightbird

Member
I consider Awakening a classic. It's been the game that got me into Fire Emblem at last after the GBA/DS ones failed to do so.
(even though Fates almost reversed that)
 

Draxal

Member
I think there's always a focus on a "core cast". That can be bigger or smaller depending on the game, but you can always tell which characters are the focus because they stay relevant throughout the entire game even though there's permadeath. Or just due to promotion. Basically it's, "who is on the boxart". For Sacred stones, that's just Ephriam and Erika. For PoR, it's arguably Ike, Soren, Titania, & Mist. For SD, it's Marth, Caeda, and Tiki. (maybe jaegan, but that's just due to the archetype being so well known by the fanbase). For Fates it's prominently both royal families.
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PoR they bumped up Elincia, she gets the number 2 slot next to Ike in Cipher for example, while the rest of the characters are done in the order they are introduced in the game (if they didn't get skipped).

Awakening is different as well as like the box art doesn't have the important characters in the cast, and hell the fated lord Waifu (Sumia) gets dumped on all the time.
 

Lunar15

Member
PoR they bumped up Elincia, she gets the number 2 slot next to Ike in Cipher for example, while the rest of the characters are done in the order they are introduced in the game (if they didn't get skipped).

Awakening is different as well as like the box art doesn't have the important characters in the cast, and hell the fated lord Waifu (Sumia) gets dumped on all the time.

Yeah, I guess Elincia got more focus with Heroes/Cypher. That said, those games have other motives as well. Sanaki was added to heroes before anyone else from that game, which is super weird.

As for awakening, I'd really just say it's Chrom/Robin/Lucina. Them including Frederick and Lissa was a bit of a surprise.
 

MrPanic

Member
20 bucks seems like a fine price point for this content, that said I'm definitely waiting until we actually know how much is exactly in all of these packs, it's just way too vague right now.
 
So the sense I get is that Hyrule Warriors was DLC done right. Is that the overall sentiment?

Great to hear that Fire Emblem Warriors looks to be a similar situation, despite somewhat questionable sourcing choices.

I'm pretty excited for this game! I'm a little worried there won't be as many zany characters and moves as there were in HW, but we will see!
 

NeonZ

Member
The oddity here regarding this DLC is that those descriptions don't say anything about new History maps, which would be the easiest way to add large amounts of play time, like the new Adventure maps in Hyrule Warriors. It'd be a big waste if there are a bunch of new characters without actual new content to play with them.
 

mas8705

Member
Still going to cross my fingers for at least Ike and Roy to somehow find a way to get in through the pass. Would be nice if Hector could find his way in too, but it might be a stone's throw at this point for him.
 
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