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Obsidian: Fallout New Vegas was limited by consoles
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GinoFelino
Member
No shit
Its sales surely weren't, though
Its sales surely weren't, though
They were very memory limited due to the console requirements.
Nope
It's the same engine as F3. The version of gamebryo used for skyrim is heavily modified
Also they had 18 months to do everything. Reworking the engine couldn't be a priority
Plumpbiscuit
Member
Well yeah, every multiplat game is.
That doesn't paint the whole picture for games though.
New Vegas could have been better if they weren't given such a small amount of development time.
Witcher 3 wouldn't have even been as big as it was if it wasn't developed for consoles as well.
Even if games are technologically limited by consoles, they still need to be on them to be financially viable.
That doesn't paint the whole picture for games though.
New Vegas could have been better if they weren't given such a small amount of development time.
Witcher 3 wouldn't have even been as big as it was if it wasn't developed for consoles as well.
Even if games are technologically limited by consoles, they still need to be on them to be financially viable.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hell, I'll add one more and say if it was just a 360/PC game, it could have been so much more. The incredibly shitty PS3 version likely kept them back.
maverickjesus
Member
The shit tier engine probably didn't help either.
That's not a fair comparison, Obsidian got less than 2 years for FNV in a new engine, Skyrim got a lot of time and of course looked better, however it was full of bugs and game breaking glitches
SliceSabre
Banned
Nice excuse for the game running like shit but he says that liek the same doesn't apply to every game ever made on a console.
"The game could run better if it was only on PC." Yea no shit, except it ran like shit on PC too.
"The game could run better if it was only on PC." Yea no shit, except it ran like shit on PC too.
Bethesda spent a lot of time making improvements between FO3 and Skyrim. Obsidian didn't have access to any of that.
Not necessarily true. It definitely helps, but look at a game like PUBG. Even without consoles it'd be viable. The audience is different an it varies game to game. Fallout, yes. But something like Arma and the like can be totally viable sans consoles
Wind's Howling
Member
Let us be honest. The Gamebryo engine from Bethesda is an absolute piece of shit and needs to die. I still remember the PS3 Skyrim days where the framerate dropped to 0 FPS.
People just keep buying their games with the use of their engine. As long as people keep doing that, there's absolutely no reason for Bethesda to change it.
People just keep buying their games with the use of their engine. As long as people keep doing that, there's absolutely no reason for Bethesda to change it.
The bugs were the larger issue. I had well over a dozen crash to desktop instances in New Vegas PC at launch.
I had a few in Skyrim as well, but it was more stable on my PC. Fallout 3 was a mess.
Pretty sure that engine has its own issues irrespective of platform. The consoles at the end of the can only be faulted by their limited, fixed memory pools that limit the scope of games. After that everything else is on the engine and the developer.
Very true, but I'd wager that something like Witcher 3 costs more to develop than ARMA.
They had 18 months to make the game while Bethesda took 5 years to make Skyrim.
MetalliCabombination
Member
i wish everyone on the planet owned a $50k pc, that probably wouldnt hold back their dreams and aspirations.
that said ill give a shit for these excuses once we somebody tops kotor and morrowind that could run on mid range phones these days.
in the end they even ported poe to console,shouldve gone crazy with it instead
that said ill give a shit for these excuses once we somebody tops kotor and morrowind that could run on mid range phones these days.
in the end they even ported poe to console,shouldve gone crazy with it instead
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Ambitious games are held back by consoles, but also, ambitious games could not exist without the console market. Catch-22.
This
GenericJoe
Member
There's really been a ton of articles about New Vegas lately. I don't know whether to believe it's a coincidence, or paving the way for an announcement of something like New Vegas Special Edition.
Omegasquash
Member
That was pretty clear from the second it got going.
And it was much clearer when the game just stopped loading my save points.
And it was much clearer when the game just stopped loading my save points.
Dinky Dino
Member
Man just talk about fallout when you get the go ahead to do new vegas 2. This is just stating the obvious.
so never
even if they somehow get to make another fallout game (doubt it) it's not going to be NV2 or even around the same region
The Last Wizard
Member
Wasnt limited by that brilliant rpg and story though. Obsidian put it down with that game.
Almost indisputable, and so in that case, console is definitely a necessary market. But saying something like WOW or even FFXIV needs the console market isn't.
I would venture to say that despite the fact that FFXIV is successful on console, it'd have been just fine without it.
Fallout: Swampfolk
ebullientprism
Member
It was still an absolutely amazing game.
What I wouldnt give for a follow up. F4 left a bad taste.
What I wouldnt give for a follow up. F4 left a bad taste.
KefkaPalazzo
Member
Alpha Protocol too?
Haha this is exactly what I said when I read the title. It is still my favorite of the new style fallouts and I really hope they get a chance and take that chance to do another fallout spin-off.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
Replace FONV with 'every multiplatform game last gen' and I'm sure you'd still end up with a somewhat accurate statement.
OverBlood 3
Banned
The PS3 version with all the DLC was something to behold.
I'd still like a follow up by the obsidian people.
I'd still like a follow up by the obsidian people.
I really wish they would Crowdfund a classic FO clone. I know we have Wasteland back, but I would love for Obsidian to do something of their own. Especially as the odds of Bethesda ever giving them modern FO again is next to none. There's no chance a crowdfunded project of their own wouldn't rake in tons of support.
Sawyer is always talking about wanting to do a TB game, a FO clone would be perfect. Do something weird like a Victorian or WWI era Post Apocalyptic setting. Channel some of that Arcanum goodness too. Play off the idea of the very early modern science tropes gone mad. Some modern marvel or invention gone awry delving the rapidly modernizing world to ruin. Play into the horror and occult side of things, like we opened up a portal to another dimension or some hollow earth stuff with some alternative world underneath ours.
Hell bring back that crazy time travel with Dinosaurs idea they originally had for FO and do some Time Machine like stuff with it. Where some turn of the 20th century inventor discovered time travel and fucked up the whole world with his antics so we have this weird mishmash of cultures and technologies that destroys the world and turns it into some kind of Land of the Lost setting with shit from all over the timeline all mixed up together and we have to survive in this upside down world.
Sawyer is always talking about wanting to do a TB game, a FO clone would be perfect. Do something weird like a Victorian or WWI era Post Apocalyptic setting. Channel some of that Arcanum goodness too. Play off the idea of the very early modern science tropes gone mad. Some modern marvel or invention gone awry delving the rapidly modernizing world to ruin. Play into the horror and occult side of things, like we opened up a portal to another dimension or some hollow earth stuff with some alternative world underneath ours.
Hell bring back that crazy time travel with Dinosaurs idea they originally had for FO and do some Time Machine like stuff with it. Where some turn of the 20th century inventor discovered time travel and fucked up the whole world with his antics so we have this weird mishmash of cultures and technologies that destroys the world and turns it into some kind of Land of the Lost setting with shit from all over the timeline all mixed up together and we have to survive in this upside down world.