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Which scenes?I went at 8 friday night and there were maybe 20 people there. And there was weird laughter during some of the deeper character scenes.
I saw it at BFI IMAX on Thursday and the only laughing was for alco-doggo
Which scenes?I went at 8 friday night and there were maybe 20 people there. And there was weird laughter during some of the deeper character scenes.
They showed a beekeeper suit? I never saw that, but if I did that would be a nugget in the other direction.
absolutely.
No they didn't. I'm just offering alternative explanations.
For instance:
We never see Deckard wear a mask because we never see him intentionally step outside in Vegas.
I don't remember arguments against Deckard being a replicant but I have a hard time thinking of any other plausible explanation for the unicorn connection in the Final Cut.
Right they don't show it, but if they wanted to hint that he was human, they would have showed it. Instead, they showed it is not necessary for a replicant, as K could stick his hand in the beehive with no repercussions.
This is literally the only reason that exists, completely irrelevant to the rest of the film
Villeneuve didn't want to show that Deckard was human. Or a Replicant. He's perfectly happy not answering that question.
Deckard being a human or replicant in Blade Runner is irrelevant.
One of the things I loved the most about 2049 is the editing pace. I know it's not for everyone since I really liked the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy movie from 2011... which according to a lot of people, had a miserable plodding pace. But man, it's so refreshing to watch a movie that is more than happy to sit on a scene.
I thought he was referring to the unicorn, which carries symbolic weight.
Also, I disagree.
Deckard being a human or replicant in Blade Runner is irrelevant.
I can't be the only one slightly disappointed to realize at the end just how much and how little any of this had to do with.Ryan Gosling's character
I can't be the only one slightly disappointed to realize at the end just how much and how little any of this had to do with.Ryan Gosling's character
Yep, but it dominates discourse because of viewer's priorities in the 21st century. Everything's a spoiler. Everything's plot. Everything's a mystery to be solved.
This is JJ Abrams' fuckin' fault.
I can't be the only one slightly disappointed to realize at the end just how much and how little any of this had to do with.Ryan Gosling's character
Which scenes?
I saw it at BFI IMAX on Thursday and the only laughing was for alco-doggo
Villeneuve didn't want to show that Deckard was human. Or a Replicant. He's perfectly happy not answering that question.
I think the "Is Deckard a replicant or not" discussion point predates Abram's career.
I think it's irrelevant as well. However I do think the Final Cut offers a hard to ignore answer, however unnecessary it is.
agreed. a bit of a return to 'film'One of the things I loved the most about 2049 is the editing pace. I know it's not for everyone since I really liked the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy movie from 2011... which according to a lot of people, had a miserable plodding pace. But man, it's so refreshing to watch a movie that is more than happy to sit on a scene.
I was incredibly proud of my theater for the most part. I expected a nightmare, but the crowd was great. 8:45 showing, about half full, and everyone was quiet, calm, and fixated on the screen. I was half expecting people to clap or cheer when EJO showed up, but none of that. A few giggles here and there, but only at times that could actually be considered humorous. There was one asshole who pulled out his *full brightness* phone a couple times, but it was pretty brief.I went at 8 friday night and there were maybe 20 people there. And there was weird laughter during some of the deeper character scenes.
Contrast this with an actual human like Gaff. Gaff is now in what appears to be some sort of nursing home, and although claiming to prefer to 'work alone' is now surrounded by other people. He does not even meet in private. Many of the humans in the film are always shown close, huddled together, while the replicants are often solitary.
Meanwhile Deckard is alone in a Las Vegas post nuclear fallout, where it was not even safe to go for humans years ago. You see when they arrive they have special masks to protect themselves. Luv, Deckard and K do not need them, as they are (seemingly) not in danger, being replicants.
I just thought of something that annoyed me in the opening scene. That damn pot of boiling water. The sound of it and even the pot itself seemed to be an intentional element of that scene, was it? Or was I just focusing on it because that sound annoys me?
I was incredibly proud of my theater for the most part. I expected a nightmare, but the crowd was great. 8:45 showing, about half full, and everyone was quiet, calm, and fixated on the screen. I was half expecting people to clap or cheer when EJO showed up, but none of that. A few giggles here and there, but only at times that could actually be considered humorous. There was one asshole who pulled out his *full brightness* phone a couple times, but it was pretty brief.
I can't be the only one slightly disappointed to realize at the end just how much and how little any of this had to do with.Ryan Gosling's character
I just thought of something that annoyed me in the opening scene. That damn pot of boiling water. The sound of it and even the pot itself seemed to be an intentional element of that scene, was it? Or was I just focusing on it because that sound annoys me?
Not unless he's using superlative phrases like abundantly clear. Most people would say its ambiguous, and intended to be so, instead of claiming either theory as de facto. Accepting that as the status quo, regardless of their own belief, is not confirmation bias.So if you say he isn't a replicant and use evidence, I guess we could say that this is confirmation bias, as well.
And if you are paying attention to the context of the film that real line is anything but ambiguous.
I like to think the Nexus-8s brought it to join them in their revolution.The dog is a replicant
Joking aside, did anyone know what happened to the dog
Also the cinema I watched in had the speakers vibrating so loudly that it kinda takes me out of the movie a bit lol. Anyway, I really enjoyed the visual and overall story.
I did not think of the 'dark horse' I just assumed the others were light as they looked like fresh carved wood, and the horse had been sitting in soot for 30 years.Anybody else try to figure out the symbolism with animals in the movie? As soon as K put the horse down I realized that it was way darker than the other wood carving, which made me think the child was a "dark horse" so I was way more confident K wasn't the child.
Thats a possibility. I saw it as a sheep for common, or follower, in contrast to Deckard's unicorn, but that works as well.Also Gaff folds a sheep for K to imply that he hasn't awakened to the truth yet?
Yes, exactly.Tension rising?
I like to think the Nexus-8s brought it to join them in their revolution.
Tension rising?
I think the "Is Deckard a replicant or not" discussion point predates Abram's career.
The pot was already boiling when K entered the house. If it was a depiction of replicants engaging in mundane daily activities It didnt scan for me. But Ill need to rewatch on Blu-ray to pick up on everything.
The pot was already boiling when K entered the house. If it was a depiction of replicants engaging in mundane daily activities It didnt scan for me. But Ill need to rewatch on Blu-ray to pick up on everything.
LolThe dog was a new breed, a superior form of Replicant known as a Nexus 9. It's name was also K.
K-9 I worked too hard for that joke.
We know K is a replicant hunter but we don't know if Dave Babushka is. Why would a replicant be cooking garlic? Must be human, or is it?
Replicants dont have to eat? Theyre not robots right?
Also Gaff folds a sheep for K to imply that he hasn't awakened to the truth yet?
Gaff sees K as an automaton of sorts, still controlled by Wallace/the police. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?Also Gaff folds a sheep for K to imply that he hasn't awakened to the truth yet?
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
I like to think the Nexus-8s brought it to join them in their revolution.
The dog was a new breed, a superior form of Replicant known as a Nexus 9. It's name was also K.
K-9 I worked too hard for that joke.
It also occurred to me that it's a reference to the title of the novel, though that could be coincidence.
I went out this morning and bought a bunch of coke and Sony products
Weird huh
We know they eat when K eats, but you don't know that at the start of the film