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Super Mario Odyssey - 10/10 from Edge
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CharminUltra
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Just a 10? Not 20? Nintendo is losing their touch.
DJ Lushious
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I love that first one!
Ive never been too keen on Amiibo, mostly related to money and space (I have the 2 Bayonetta ones, though, just cause I love the franchise), but I preordered all 3 of the Mario Odyssey ones. I wonder what theyll do with the game! Nintendo hasnt said anything in detail yet, right?
CharlesDangus
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I read the review by doing a 1-month free trial for Edge Magazine on iOS. The review really has no major spoilers. I think Nintendo let them release it early on the condition that it skirted around most "spoilery" things. It doesn't reveal the final number of Kingdoms, and only vaguely gestures towards plot beats and some references that people have already speculated about.
Incitemaybe
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I love this one
Belgian Dude
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Highlights from the Post-Script of the review, don't know if they've been talked about it here yet. A bunch of stuff we already knew, with some minor tidbits:
- The post-script talks a bit about Nintendo learning the 'wrong' lesson after Sunshine's comparatively lukewarm reception after 64. While Galaxy is far from a mistake, for all its ambition, it's a 'calculated retreat' from Sunshine's expansive environments to missions with linear paths.
- Odyssey, however, builds on Mario 64's foundation while adding its own creative spin to it. It throws out entrenched ideas of the franchise, such as the life system - and while losing 10 coins when you die might not feel like punishment enough, it quickly stacks up when you've been "saving up for the dozens of special outfits that shops begin to stock once you've earned enough moons".
- It mentions that purple coins offer you more tangible rewards this time around instead of being there for the sake of a single collectable, which might be meaning there's no Moon for collecting all the purple coins? It's not super clear.
- The game's more considerate of every type of player: there's a broad number of way to collect moons. The post-script mentions the leaderboard challenges for competitive people, some abstract side areas for more traditional Mario platforming, and more.
- There's a 'stronger narrative drive' too: every kingdom has its own journey before it's fully opened up, and they're transformed by your actions. To melt the ice in the Sand Kingdom you need to
This quote is the one thing I'd consider a 'spoiler', btw:
If this is too much give me a warning and I'll cut out a bunch of it.
- The post-script talks a bit about Nintendo learning the 'wrong' lesson after Sunshine's comparatively lukewarm reception after 64. While Galaxy is far from a mistake, for all its ambition, it's a 'calculated retreat' from Sunshine's expansive environments to missions with linear paths.
- Odyssey, however, builds on Mario 64's foundation while adding its own creative spin to it. It throws out entrenched ideas of the franchise, such as the life system - and while losing 10 coins when you die might not feel like punishment enough, it quickly stacks up when you've been "saving up for the dozens of special outfits that shops begin to stock once you've earned enough moons".
- It mentions that purple coins offer you more tangible rewards this time around instead of being there for the sake of a single collectable, which might be meaning there's no Moon for collecting all the purple coins? It's not super clear.
- The game's more considerate of every type of player: there's a broad number of way to collect moons. The post-script mentions the leaderboard challenges for competitive people, some abstract side areas for more traditional Mario platforming, and more.
- There's a 'stronger narrative drive' too: every kingdom has its own journey before it's fully opened up, and they're transformed by your actions. To melt the ice in the Sand Kingdom you need to
reach the inverted pyramid, then descend into the hole it was plugging once it's floated upward.
This quote is the one thing I'd consider a 'spoiler', btw:
If this is too much give me a warning and I'll cut out a bunch of it.
You need it
CharminUltra
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hydragonwarrior
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Super Mario Odyssey |OT| Cap > Cape
OrbitalBeard
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You really don't need that long to determine a game's lasting consensus in most cases. Six months to a year is plenty of time.
DragonKnight
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I fucking like this!
ScientificPizza
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theres the excitenent this thread was lacking
DecoReturns
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Why a few years?
I can decided within a few months.
I can decided within a few months.
ScientificPizza
Banned
this should be it
What can I say; I'm a total sucker for hype.
foxuzamaki
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Fuck
Poimandres
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3D World copped plenty of flack almost immediately.
And with hindsight we can realize that it was a top tier Mario game... like top 3.
you're not wrong
additionally we'll also have a better understanding of how good it is a few weeks from now
You play a game and wait a few years to determine if the game is actually good from other people's opinion?
I think people need a little time for the excitement to die down and actually reflect on how good an incredibly hyped game truly is. I think six months is a solid amount of time for discussion to start, but it will take a while before people will be able to look at things in a more objective manner. Especially when you are dealing with something as beloved, and untainted, as a premier, mainline Nintendo series entry.
I am relatively certain that I didn't say that.
FloweryMarston
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15 years is the minimum amount
Dark Cloud
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No. We'll have a better understanding of how amazing it is day 1.
Interesting that the colors chosen for each letter in MARIO is both for 64 and Galaxy and the rest are different...Technically it's a follow up to Mario 64/Sunshine, in Nintendo's eyes. If anything, 3D Land and World were the sucessors to the Galaxy duology. As told by The Chart.
OrbitalBeard
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I would agree in some cases, (not all) players may need some time away from a game before he or she can give a truly definitive take on it. I don't think you need three years or more though. Not even close, really, though I also think this can vary from person to person. Not everyone is fueled by the hype cycle.
I love this since most of the time i read crappy instead of cappy, lol.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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i mean good or bad is subjective, when you finish the game by yourself you already know it is good or bad, no need for a few year or others opinion
lvl99 Pixel
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how "open world" is this turning out to be? the Zelda tower scouting and korok seed comparison sound worrying to someone that wasnt big on BOTW style of meandering navigation
Well, that's the opposite. That was antihype with screams of "not a real 3D Mario!" because it wasn't open world; which was completely unwarranted since it was the most Mario 3D Mario. It ended up being the best 3D Mario yet. That's harder to change opinions on since if you don't play it or give up after a few levels it's kinda hard to form a more informed opinion.
Demoskinos
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14 Days.... 14 long long days.
as open world as mario 64 or sunshine
CharminUltra
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Won't make it. Might as well give up.
3D World's choices are pretty good because each color represents Mario, Luigi, Toad, and Peach and the 5th color represents the cat powerup.
silpheed-mcd
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I love this one 
and I hope that nintendo will give us artworks like those in the Nintendo Company Book 2017
and I hope that nintendo will give us artworks like those in the Nintendo Company Book 2017
Dark Cloud
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People keep asking for playable Luigi. I want a playable Wario. Wario would be so cool and different from Luigi. Give me Super Wario Odyssey!
lvl99 Pixel
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Mario 64 is a favourite but the hub world isnt huge or complicated, and there are 15 stages while this one has 6 or 7(?) which are apparently large enough that you have to plan your journey from a tower? Im probably catastrophizing this because of some of the screenshots showing gigantic open areas
TheSpaceBetween
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I don't find it to be that inconceivable... For me it's probably around #5 or so behind 64, 3, World, and Galaxy 1.
Poimandres
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I strongly disagree that it's the best 3D Mario. I did only play single player though... but the same is true for the other 3D Mario games so...
Anyway, I actually think there might be a group of people who prefer pure platforming Mario that will be disappointed with Odyssey. Maybe. It will certainly be impressive if it manages to be everything to everyone!
CharminUltra
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That is one of the most beautiful and inspiring Mario-related images I've ever seen. Reminds me of UP in a way.I love this one
Have you seen gameplay videos? Then you should know the answer already.
If you haven't seen anything then I can only say that it doesn't look like an "open world" game. It's a semi open world as you can get a lot of moons (in a specific kingdom) in any order you want without being bound to play "episodes", however you need to unlock the other kingdoms first and there are many story moons you need to get in order.
EndlessSky
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I believe we've seen between 9 ad 11 different worlds so far, and there will definitely be at least couple more we have't see yet. And it does seem like the worlds will be quite big if there are going to to be nearly 900 moons.
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