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Shadow of War sold ~ 400.000 copies on Steam in 7 days.

Stygr

Banned
According to SteamSpy, Middle-Earth: Shadow of War sold ~ 400.000 copies on Steam in one week, after the good results on the UK market, even on PC the sequel of Shadow of Mordor is getting some pretty good sales.
The Microtransaction buzz didn't affect the sales of the game after all.
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sKiTz

Member
Of course it didn’t, the new generation of gamers are growing up on Microtransactions and loot box offerings.

I’ll pick it up next year, not giving them launch cash.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
Of what I’ve played so far the microtransaction stuff has been pretty non intrusive. I’ve early game though and haven’t gotten my orc army yet.
 

Lateralus1993

Neo Member
I actually am holding off to play it on my One X, but even then I'm gonna wait a bit. I heard it's repetitive in the same ways that Mordor was for me. The microtransaction BS just kinda turned me off of it even more so I'm just gonna wait a while and not pay $60 for it
 

Truant

Member
Happy to see Monolith successful. They were one of my favorite developers back in the day, and it's great that they're still at it.
 

Diancecht

Member
Only people that care about microtransactions and lootboxes are the people that use gaming forums like Neogaf. Average gamer -which is the majority of gamer population- couldn’t give less shits about them.
 

Josemsar

Neo Member
For now I did not need any kind of microtransaction, the port is rock solid and the game is really fun. I mean... I don´t like WB, but if I would not get games because of publishers choices I neither have buyed DOOM, Dishonored 2 or Prey.

Just get the game and enjoy it.
 

Stygr

Banned
Happy to see Monolith successful. They were one of my favorite developers back in the day, and it's great that they're still at it.

I really want to see a new F.E.A.R, maybe close to the first one, F.3.A.R was mediocre sadly.
 
Only people that care about microtransactions and lootboxes are the people that use gaming forums like Neogaf. Average gamer -which is the majority of gamer population- couldn't give less shits about them.
And microtransactions are just going to keep getting worse because publishers know they can get away with it.

At least the indie and AA scene will still be making great stuff.
 

DR2K

Banned
What a shame, wonder what the consensus will be when lootbox becomes more prevalent towards the later half.
 

T.O.P

Banned
Loved the first game so I'm definitely gonna pick this one up early next year

All the microtransaction talk I didn't really follow tbh
 

Diancecht

Member
And microtransactions are just going to keep getting worse because of that.

At least the indie and AA scene is making great stuff.

Yeah, don’t get me wrong, I don’t support that kind of economy.

I learned this when I was writing my ma thesis on a video game that yet to be released. No one cares about mts or lootboxes. We Neogaf users -or any other “hardcore” gaming forum users- live in a bubble regarding these kinds of issues. We sometimes think that, after seeing hundreds of hate posts in a forum thread regarding some game’s shaddy businesses practices, people will boycott that said game but we are not the majority.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
What a shame, wonder what the consensus will be when lootbox becomes more prevalent towards the later half.

In what way? I thought I had seen a thread that seemed to indicate that you might have to go grind to get an ending or something?
 

Renekton

Member
Yeah, don’t get me wrong, I don’t support that kind of economy.

I learned this when I was writing my ma thesis on a video game that yet to be released. No one cares about mts or lootboxes. We Neogaf users -or any other “hardcore” gaming forum users- live in a bubble regarding these kinds of issues. We sometimes think that, after seeing hundreds of hate posts in a forum thread regarding some game’s shaddy businesses practices, people will boycott that said game but we are not the majority.
Hey also keep an eye out for Battlefront 2's sales performance.
 

Stygr

Banned
WB is having a pretty good generation, most titles sold gangbusters.

Not most, basically all their titles proved to be a success.

MK X is the best selling fighting game of this generation
Dying Light sold over 5 million units, most successful Techland's game to date
Injustice 2 was the highest grossing console title in the Q2 of 2017
The Batman Arkham series proved to be a success from Asylum to Knight (not on PC Knight)
Shadow of Mordor only on PC sold >4 million units without counting PS4, One, PS3 and Xbox 360.
The LEGO series has a strong fanbase with different targets and franchises (LOTR, HP, Marvel, SW etc...)
Only Mad Max bombed i think.

They have big names, big IPs and talented studios and their marketing is one of the best.
 

Hooks

Member
Well deserved this whole micro transaction thing has been blown out of proportion. It doesn't effect the game, no need to buy them.
 
Kinda shitty to see people dismiss the loot box stuff in an SP game.

Man remember when horse armor was a thing? Sounded like a joke.

$60 SP game + season pass + MT/loot box offerings beyond cosmetics... "it's fine"

It's going to get worst.
 
Don't think anyone expected the game to fail because of the controversy.

Which doesn't make the discussion any less important to have.
 
If you were really into the nemesis system of the first game, it does a great job of expanding on that system. Mixing in some more strategic layers, expanding skill trees and "ARPG" elements like builds through gear/skill tree combinations. The fortresses and challenges those bring give you a reason/content to pursue that gear too, so that's a decent gameplay hook. The combat has enough depth to be pretty enjoyable, although it's still the Rocksteady combat formula, which is starting to show its age, if not just because of overuse. Movement is improved, although there's times where it still feels very sticky, to an annoying degree. Before I sold it (Not saying it's a bad game, just got bored and there's other titles like Divinity OS 2 to play) I really didn't ever feel the need or pressure to buy any loot boxes, so I was fine, I feel like it's definitely designed to capture late game wales that grow invested in the ranked/fortress component of the game.

Outside of that, the story was really all over the place and nothing special. If anything it became more of a nuisance than anything else after a while as you had to do certain quests to progress skill trees and fortress events.
 

killroy87

Member
Of course it didn’t, the new generation of gamers are growing up on Microtransactions and loot box offerings.

I’ll pick it up next year, not giving them launch cash.
The new generation? How long do you think this has been a thing? Are the new generation all like three year olds?
 

smurfx

get some go again
Well deserved this whole micro transaction thing has been blown out of proportion. It doesn't effect the game, no need to buy them.
the good thing is that the game gives you a ton of in game money so you can buy the silver loot boxes and get good stuff. plus the vendetta missions also give you chests with nice weapons/armor in it. think i have like 15,000 in game money and i haven't really had the need to spend any money on loot boxes.
 

CEJames

Member
I'm afraid I haven't written down their names. I just remember seeing plenty of people saying it would bomb during the height of the "Lootboxes! Lootboxes! Lootboxes!" thing over here.
There was a 10 page thread of people gloating about how their righteous stance on loot boxes had killed their hype for the game. I think it's reasonable to assume some of them expected the game to suffer from the controversy.

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KonradLaw

Member
The loot boxes thing turned out to be mostly pre-release hysteria, so I'm not surprised that after the game launched the word got out and didn't affect the sales. PC community has always been good as spreading world of mouth.
 
Only people that care about microtransactions and lootboxes are the people that use gaming forums like Neogaf. Average gamer -which is the majority of gamer population- couldn’t give less shits about them.

Not accurate. My whole workplace cares about micro-transactions and I'm the only one who posts actively on gaming forums.
 

Maximus P

Member
I wonder how many of those people claiming that they wouldn't 'touch this game with a barge pole' will end up going on to purchase this game.

I'm well over 20 hours into the game and can honestly say I have never once had the urge to purchase anything on the market with real currency, nor would I see any benefit in it as I'm enjoying finding legendary orcs and loot in game.
 
I was expecting at least 100 "buy a lootbox" notifications within the first hour of playing based on how prevalent the lootbox discussion was surrounding this game. I think I got like 1 notification after like 20 hours of playtime. Hell you don't even have to buy any lootboxes because its pretty easy to just recruit captains just by playing the game.
 
Since about 2009.

Hint: it wasn't on consoles.

Yup. GAF's outrages on MTs and loot boxes are pretty much old man yelling at the clouds.

GAF has been actively avoiding F2P MMOs and mobile games over the decade, without realizing that we are not core gaming target market anymore. The new generation who grew up with MTs and loot boxes has emerged as the core gaming market today.
 
There’s always some kind of excuse to give to allow MTs.

It’s honestly shocking how people don’t see themselves as being played.
 

KHlover

Banned
Not accurate. My whole workplace cares about micro-transactions and I'm the only one who posts actively on gaming forums.
Aren't you working in IT for a school? I don't think other IT guys count as "average gamer", even though they don't actively browse gaming forums.
 
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