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[Lupercal]

Played a few hours last night, liking the new presentation in the menus.
But the driving is spectacular, haven't felt anything like this and I'm only using a controller.
Going to go to a buddy and use his wheel setup.

Haven't noticed much of lack of content but after only 3 hours, not much to say.

 

[John Wick]

After playing it, 100%! The game is exactly what I want in a driving game.

The driving is great fun and enjoyable. I tried PC2 and the control via joypad is rubbish. GT Sport has nailed the control. Many critics used to say the driving in GT was sterile and not fun. Now it's great fun but lack of content...... always online blah blah.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

Okay show of hands... who here actually feels the reviews so far are unreasonable or unfair?

Is this kind of question asked in most review threads?

 

[GHG]

It's below an 80% game in my opinion, after playing the demo and watching the GB quick look. The game seems like an absolute fucking joke and a really lame direction for the franchise to go in, I don't understand who they made this for.

The people who are playing it and enjoying it?

The mentality of "I don't like something (or I don't like the look of something) so nobody should" is a strange one.

 

[STEaMkb]

nm

 

[farisr]

He praises the ghosting of cars that go sideways or cut across the race track to ensure flow, yet listening to Giant Bomb discuss this same element yesterday, Jeff did not like the ghosting of cars and moaned about it a fair bit. He kept asking strange questions that he would have discovered the answer to if he kept playing or was willing to experiment. It just felt like he was reaching to knock the game without giving it a fair shake.

The quick look actually showed exactly what jeff had a problem with. Not being able to predict when the ghosted cars would become solid, sometimes it was safe (and the only option in the case of super erratic drivers) to drive right through and sometimes they would just pop into existance right beside you and bump you off the road. It is an issue that needs to be ironed out. Perhaps these cars should remain as ghosts till others are a good distance away.

 

[GHG]

He praises the ghosting of cars that go sideways or cut across the race track to ensure flow, yet listening to Giant Bomb discuss this same element yesterday, Jeff did not like the ghosting of cars and moaned about it a fair bit. He kept asking strange questions that he would have discovered the answer to if he kept playing or was willing to experiment.

The ghosting of cars to stop people merging back on to the track without consideration for others or those intentional driving wrecklessly is a great addition.

If Jeff doesn't understand why it happens then he simply isn't the demographic for this game and he would be better off sticking to racing games where people bashing the shit out of each other online is acceptable behaviour.

The quick look actually showed exactly what jeff had a problem with. Not being able to predict when the ghosted cars would become solid, sometimes it was safe (and the only option in the case of super erratic drivers) to drive right through and sometimes they would just pop into existance right beside you and bump you off the road. It is an issue that needs to be ironed out. Perhaps these cars should remain as ghosts till others are a good distance away.

Ghosted cars flash 3 times before coming back into existence. If in doubt simply avoid them entirely.

 

[BLAUcopter]

Anyone on the fence should really watch the giant bomb quick look as it shows exactly what this game is.

I was tossing up on buying this because of the lack of a traditional career mode but now I'm skipping it for sure.

 

[GlamFM]

Anyone on the fence should really watch the giant bomb quick look as it shows exactly what this game is.

I was tossing up on buying this because of the lack of a traditional career mode but now I'm skipping it for sure.

Same.

But I might bite once it reaches a more appropriate price point.

It seems so weird and out of touch that I have to see it for myself at some point.

 

[farisr]

Ghosted cars flash 3 times before coming back into existence. If in doubt simply avoid them entirely.

Well, then Jeff wasn't able to figure it out, and I wasn't either from the video. It wasn't apparent. Also how are you supposed to be able to tell there's a ghost car that's basically riding on you or slightly off to the side (and see the flashes) in a bumper cam situation?

 

[GHG]

Well, then Jeff wasn't able to figure it out, and I wasn't either from the video either. It wasn't apparent. Also how are you supposed to be able to tell there's a ghost car that's basically riding on you or slightly off to the side (and see the flashes) in a bumper cam situation?

I've not had a problem with it personally but if enough people have similar issues then they should look at making it proximity sensitive or something. Either that or some sort of notification on screen for the drivers that are in the vicinity of the ghosted car.

 

[ResidentDante]

Anyone on the fence should really watch the giant bomb quick look as it shows exactly what this game is.

I was tossing up on buying this because of the lack of a traditional career mode but now I'm skipping it for sure.

Same.

But I might bite once it reaches a more appropriate price point.

It seems so weird and out of touch that I have to see it for myself at some point.

Yeah, same here, that Giantbomb look was really informative and good. I'm waiting out on this one.

 

[Rodelero]

Anyone on the fence should really watch the giant bomb quick look as it shows exactly what this game is.

I was tossing up on buying this because of the lack of a traditional career mode but now I'm skipping it for sure.

I mean, I like and subscribe to Giant Bomb, but no-one should be looking to that lot to review or properly critique a racing sim. Jeff wants a -very- specific thing out of these games (be it Forza Motorsport or Gran Turismo) and, apparently, neither Forza Motorsport 7 nor Gran Turismo Sport provides it. That's not to say that their impressions are worthless, but the idea their QL is the thing to watch is patently absurd.

Customization is very important in racing games and GTS stalls in this area as well. It would be nice to have the option alter color schemes and other parts of the vehicles you acquire, but it isn't in the game.

Wow. Frankly, this is the kind of thing that should see sites barred from contributing to aggregators.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

Reviews are fair, 4 stars is a good score.

but, it's not an 80% game, probably 80-85.

I'd put it in the 80-85 bracket. The gameplay and presentation is excellent, it's just let down a little by restrictive DRM and a few missing features (Time Trial in VR would be great)

The track and cars selection will get better, so I'm fine with how it is now, hopefully they can relax the DRM a bit on some modes and add some of the missing features in updates and DLC.

 

[pswii60]

I just realised this is a full price game! What were Sony thinking?!

I may grab it when the price inevitably tumbles in January, but otherwise I'll just patiently wait for GT7.

 

[bennibop]

Fair. Being a Gran Turismo title, especially a main entry, brings with it expectations. Sport doesn’t meet those. Honestly I’d be harsher given how little attention was payed to the single player.

The game has been about multiplayer from the start, PD had told us all what it was 3 years ago and that single player was not the focus. Based on this logic Overwatch should be docked review points as it has no single player content what so ever.

I don't get the reviews that have complained that the game is not GT7, it was never meant to be. Should PD not attached the GT name to it?

 

[FlutterPuffs]

The game has been about multiplayer from the start, PD had told us all what it was 3 years ago and that single player was not the focus. Based on this logic Overwatch should be docked review points as it has no single player content what so ever.

I don't get the reviews that have complained that the game is not GT7, it was never meant to be. Should PD not attached the GT name to it?

Honestly, that's a darn good analogy.

 

[Fdkn]

I just realised this is a full price game! What were Sony thinking?!

Really?

 

[Nightfall]

This is probably not the most comprehensive review, but the guys over at pistonheads have a review up:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonheads/gran-turismo-sport-review/36939

And none of this should detract from what is, quite simply, the best driving experience on any console as of now. From the crackle of the over-run on the Porsche 911 RSR or the scrape of the floorpan on the various crowns of the Nordschleife ribbon to the wonderful, palpable feedback as the fronts begin to wear on one of the brilliantly conceived imaginary circuits or just the sparks at Suzuka which glow in the dusk, GT Sport is a joy to drive.

 

[pswii60]

Really?

Yes. I just assumed this was a £30 title like the Prologues. After skimming through the EG review I thought it sounded light on content but forgivable for the price.. I was considering purchasing and my jaw dropped when I see it is £45 on Amazon.

 

[MGR]

If Giant Bomb's Quick Look means that people who identify with Jeff's opinion on racing games are more likely to avoid GT Sport, then I think it's done a fantastic service for the online racing community.

 

[Harmen]

This game is a hard pass for me in it's current state. I have no doubts that the core driving mechanics/experience is ace, and it looks beautiful, but how a game is structured around that matters a great deal to me personally.

I wonder how well this entry will sell compared to the rest of the series.

 

[SgtCobra]

Eek it's only getting lower, too bad but I guess PD ain't really got "it" anymore whatever that is?

Yes. I just assumed this was a £30 title like the Prologues. After skimming through the EG review I thought it sounded light on content but forgivable for the price.. I was considering purchasing and my jaw dropped when I see it is £45 on Amazon.

This game is NOT comparable with a Prologue title lol
Edit: Buutt I agree that the game should be cheaper though.

 

[GlamFM]

The game has been about multiplayer from the start, PD had told us all what it was 3 years ago and that single player was not the focus. Based on this logic Overwatch should be docked review points as it has no single player content what so ever.

I don't get the reviews that have complained that the game is not GT7, it was never meant to be. Should PD not attached the GT name to it?

It should be 20-30$.

There are expectations when you put out a GT game at full fucking price.

Other GTs also had online - this one being more fleshed out does not justify the full price.

Call it GT Online Championship and sell it for an appropriate price and we´re cool.

Imagine the next COD having no online, but just a campaign for 60$.

Kaz is entirely out of touch.

 

[bennibop]

TBF the game is worth the £40 I paid, the production value are high and I knew what I was buying (an online focused racing game.) The game is also a long term service not just an annual release.

 

[Mr.Deadshot]

It should be 20-30$.

Just like Overwatch is 20-30$?

Really, it was clear since the announcement that GT Sports it NOT a single-player game. The focus always was on online mode. It's NOT GT7.

 

[Rodelero]

Call it GT Online Championship and sell it for an appropriate price and we´re cool.

Ah, so they changed the name to make it clear it was sport focused, but not enough. Now I see the problem. Jesus wept.

 

[Dinjooh]

Why? Overwatch has an online focus and it didn't get reviewed based on the things it does not do. GT Sport is an online focused game that's why it is not called GT7.

He's agreeing with you.

 

[deoee]

Just like Overwatch is 20-30$?

Really, it was clear since the announcement that GT Sports it NOT a single-player game. The focus always was on online mode. It's NOT GT7.

Overwatch is 40€ on PC

 

[Egida]

The game has been about multiplayer from the start, PD had told us all what it was 3 years ago and that single player was not the focus. Based on this logic Overwatch should be docked review points as it has no single player content what so ever.

I don't get the reviews that have complained that the game is not GT7, it was never meant to be. Should PD not attached the GT name to it?

We literally have a new thread with Kaz still telling people at the game's presentation that "the content from GT Mode is still in GT Sport, but is presented differently".

And don't forget that the "Campaign Mode" was still a total mistery a few months ago. Hell, people in the beta thread were arguing about whether it would be playabe offline.

 

[GlamFM]

Just like Overwatch is 20-30$?

Really, it was clear since the announcement that GT Sports it NOT a single-player game. The focus always was on online mode. It's NOT GT7.

What does overwatch have to do with it?

I´m comparing GT Sport to previous entries in the franchise.

Fair, no?

Ah, so they changed the name to make it clear it was sport focused, but not enough. Now I see the problem. Jesus wept.

What?

Also - I care way less about the name than I do about the price.

 

[KORNdoggy]

Imagine the next COD having no online, but just a campaign for 60$.

surely a more apt comparison would be "imagine the next COD having no single player, but just MP for $60"

isn't that just overwatch then? or titanfall? lets not pretend this isn't a format that hasn't been done before and hasn't been ridiculously popular to boot.

but we'll see how well it works out for GT. i imagine it'll be a success.

 

[bennibop]

What does overwatch have to do with it?

I´m comparing GT Sport to previous entries in the franchise.

Fair, no?



What?

Also - I care way less about the name than I do about the price.

No because it is not meant to be the same as previous GT enteries.

 

[farisr]

.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Why? Overwatch has an online focus and it didn't get reviewed based on the things it does not do. GT Sport is an online focused game that's why it is not called GT7.

TBF the game is worth the £40 I paid, the production value are high and I knew what I was buying (an online focused racing game.) The game is also a long term service not just an annual release.

Dude, I agreed with you.

 

[pswii60]

Eek it's only getting lower, too bad but I guess PD ain't really got "it" anymore whatever that is?


This game is NOT comparable with a Prologue title lol
Edit: Buutt I agree that the game should be cheaper though.

You say it's not comparable to a Prologue title, are you saying it is therefore comparable to a mainline GT title? It's clearly somewhere in the middle. Let's not pretend this is anything other than a stopgap.

 

[bennibop]

He's agreeing with you.

Haha didn't see that!!! Sorry Flutter Puffs

 

[Mr.Deadshot]

What does overwatch have to do with it?

I´m comparing GT Sport to previous entries in the franchise.

Fair, no?.

Overwatch is another online-centric 60$ game.

Comparing it to GT1-6 is not fair, because this game has another focus. That's why it's not called GT7.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

surely a more apt comparison would be "imagine the next COD having no single player, but just MP for $60"

isn't that just overwatch then? or titanfall? lets not pretend this isn't a format that hasn't been done before and hasn't been ridiculously popular to boot.

but we'll see how well it works out for GT. i imagine it'll be a success.

Well Titanfall 2 brought in a very well received single player component after people complained about the First not having one

And as for OW - it’s the first game in its series so it’s very much angame that’s never changed direction - unlike Titanfall which suffered partly because of that focus. It doesn’t have ~18-20 years of historically single player games in the back catalog.

 

[Rodelero]

surely a more apt comparison would be "imagine the next COD having no single player, but just MP for $60"

isn't that just overwatch then? or titanfall? lets not pretend this isn't a format that hasn't been done before and hasn't been ridiculously popular to boot.

but we'll see how well it works out for GT. i imagine it'll be a success.

Even that kind of gets it wrong when you consider that Gran Turismo Sport has hours upon hours of single player only content.

 

[Flipside]

I got a message that I can pick up my GTS CE but after reading the impressions and looking at the Giantbomb Quicklook I'm really not sure if this game is for me.

The demo looked and played great but I'm not really looking forward to a game that's mainly focused on online play and e-sports. When I bought Driveclub at launch I felt I made a mistake and I'm afraid this could lead to the same buyers remorse.

 

[GlamFM]

Overwatch is another online-centric 60$ game.

Comparing it to GT1-6 is not fair, because this game has another focus. That's why it's not called GT7.

Well Overwatch is what it is. It´s the first entry in the franchise.

If Overwatch 1 was a SP campaign AND MP for 60$ and like 400 years later Overwatch Sport came out with just MP for 60$ people would be furious.

 

[bennibop]

I got a message that I can pick up my GTS CE but after reading the impressions and looking at the Giantbomb Quicklook I'm really not sure if this game is for me.

The demo looked and played great but I'm not really looking forward to a game that's mainly focused on online play and e-sports. When I bought Driveclub at launch I felt I made a mistake and I'm afraid this could lead to the same buyers remorse.

Shame, because the online is truly fantastic, feels like you are going on a proper track day.

 

[bennibop]

Well Overwatch is what it is. It´s the first entry in the franchise.

If Overwatch 1 was a SP campaign AND MP for 60$ and like 400 years later Overwatch Sport came out with just MP for 60$ people would be furious.

Not if it was clear from the off set what Overwatch sport was.

 

[KORNdoggy]

Well Overwatch is what it is. It´s the first entry in the franchise.

If Overwatch 1 was a SP campaign AND MP for 60$ and like 400 years later Overwatch Sport came out with just MP for 60$ people would be furious.

i'm pretty sure they wouldn't. i can't imagine anyone would even care if COD lost it's single player at this point. the same way no sane person cares about battlefields shoe horned campaigns either.

ideally GT7 will combine what sport does and what GT6 did. have a standard "career" where you progress from a civic to a super car collecting cars along the way, but each race is actually online so you get SOME semblance of challenge.

 

[Nightfall]

Well Overwatch is what it is. It´s the first entry in the franchise.

If Overwatch 1 was a SP campaign AND MP for 60$ and like 400 years later Overwatch Sport came out with just MP for 60$ people would be furious.

But this is where the name part comes in (which you dismiss as not being relevant).

It's a new sort of Gran Turismo. Therefore no number anymore. I see nothing wrong with that.

Otherwise it would be like you're complaining that Persona 4: Dancing all Night is not enough RPG, because it clearly says Persona 4 in the title.

 

[GlamFM]

i'm pretty sure they wouldn't. i can't imagine anyone would even care if COD lost it's single player at this point. the same way no sane person cares about battlefields shoe horned campaigns either.

ideally GT7 will combine what sport does and what GT6 did. have a standard "career" where you progress from a civic to a super car collecting cars along the way, but each race is actually online so you get SOME semblance of challenge.

I think the price should reflect that. Unless you think that GT7 will and should be 120$ because it incorporates GT Spors´s Online mode and a proper SP campaign.

But this is where the name part comes in (which you dismiss as not being relevant).

It's a new sort of Gran Turismo. Therefore no number anymore. I see nothing wrong with that.

Otherwise it would be like you're complaining that Persona 4: Dancing all Night is not enough RPG, because it clearly says Persona 4 in the title.

Fair point. I still think GT Sport should be 30$ cheaper.

 

[Playsage]

Yeah, same here, that Giantbomb look was really informative and good. I'm waiting out on this one.

That QL is the last thing i'd call a competent and informative showing of the game.

 

[Nightfall]

I think the price should reflect that. Unless you think that GT7 will and should be 120$ because it incorporates GT Spors´s Online mode and a proper SP campaign.



Fair point. I still think GT Sport should be 30$ cheaper.

30$ would be way to cheap. It still offers a lot of content and personally I don't think it's overpriced.
Yes there aren't 1000 cars, but there's enough cars and tracks to justify the price (for me at least).

And if the DLC is free, it'll be even better.

 

[Lupercal]

Anyone on the fence should really watch the giant bomb quick look as it shows exactly what this game is.

I was tossing up on buying this because of the lack of a traditional career mode but now I'm skipping it for sure.

The Giant Bomb quick look is trash, just watched it.
These people clearly have no idea about what makes a racing game good.
They should stick to what they know or use someone who does play racers.