ItsYaBoiPazuzu
Neo Member
Me too. It's like, "E3 is right around the corner but durrrr the end year lineup sucks for 2018!!!"
lol wut?
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Never forget: Nintendo Switch' terrible 2018 lineup
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lol wut?
Halo0629
Member
Joking aside, 2017 was just pretty hard to top for nintendo and people are just expecting too much this year. So far so good it's still a pretty good year for the switch with more wiiu ports, yoshi, fire emblem and smash coming out this year. Now all I'm hoping this e3 is a new animal crossing and I'm pretty happy with my switch this 2018.
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KevinKeene
Banned
I never had a PS3. Sony now stops releasing new games in favor of PS3-ports for PS4. Should that be applauded?
Dark Souls is a H2/2018-game. This thread is about H1/2018 and how a good second half doesn't excuse a terrible first half.
I realize that there are specific individual reasons for something mostly bad can be okay for someone individually. But we shouldn't let Nintendo off the hook here. I'm more of a Nintendo-fan than most, that's why I want them to do their best.
I want them to finally start the Virtual Console on Switch. I want them to release an app for Netflix, Prime etc.. I want proper system-wide party-chat. I want them to release ambitious games like BotW.
But currently we're not getting any of that. We bought a Switch for BotW and haven't even gotten an announcement for the next open-world title since Xenoblade Chronicles 2. And now we haven't gotten a big new singleplayer title since ... also Xenoblade Chronicles 2 :/ But the only response I ever see to that are excuses. Yes, yes, games development takes time - which is why an experienced company with lots of ressources makes competent plans. Truth is: Nintendo has been in 'let's take it easy'-mode ever since Switch and BotW showed to be a huge success. That's how they'll lose it all again, see Wii to Wii U :/
KevinKeene
Banned
Learn to read. H1/2018 sucks.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Kevin, we both know that isn't the case. Nintendo is developing new titles while re-releasing the Wii U exclusives to maintain a continued release of content. Remasters/ports take much less effort with smaller teams, allowing the larger teams to develop new titles. Suggesting that they are instead focusing time on those ports instead of new games is disingenuous.
Also, why would an "open-world" title be a necessity?
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The Sane Psycho
Banned
Nintendo would do well to release smaller 3DS style games throughout the year to ease the droughts. 2D Zelda, NSMBSwitch, Mario & Luigi, WarioWare, etc.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Well, i sure can understand how someone may feel like it and escpecialy if this someone already had a Wii U for 5-6 years before and played every game from Nintendo on it, but i never had a Wii U and bought Switch exactly one year since launch and i've nothing bad to say about its first party linup so far (except 1-2-Switch which can fuck right off and $60 Wii U ports - but i know how to fight these so it's no issue for me).
As for this year... at this point we only know about like 3 first party games and 2 exclusive which will be released during summer, in september and maybe in fall (one (!!!) of which is Wii U port - Captain Toad which i'll buy for sure cuz i haven't played this game), beyond that - nothing. So i think it'll be reasonable to at least wait a bit for E3's Direct to see what else is coming this year and beyond. I doubt that we'll see Fire Emblem or new SMT game (if rumors is to believe, full force development only started early this year, so 2019 at best) this year, let alone Prime 4 (but i want to believe), but there's plenty of good games to play and buy in eShop (i'm not talking about ports which can be played litteraly on every other platform available today).
I mean, are you guys really expected yet another 2017 with huge first party line-up like SMO, XC2 and BOTW all in one year? Such things happen like once in like 15-20 years (if not once in a life time) when it comes to Nintendo so... come on, be reasonable, please remember and keep in mind that almost no one bought Wii U. So, if next year will be full of Wii U ports again and with little to no interesting core first party games (i'm sorry, Nintendo, but Kirby or Yoshi is really not what hardcore gamers want to play) developed only for Switch, then you'll have every reason to complain to say WTF and i will join you.
As for this year... at this point we only know about like 3 first party games and 2 exclusive which will be released during summer, in september and maybe in fall (one (!!!) of which is Wii U port - Captain Toad which i'll buy for sure cuz i haven't played this game), beyond that - nothing. So i think it'll be reasonable to at least wait a bit for E3's Direct to see what else is coming this year and beyond. I doubt that we'll see Fire Emblem or new SMT game (if rumors is to believe, full force development only started early this year, so 2019 at best) this year, let alone Prime 4 (but i want to believe), but there's plenty of good games to play and buy in eShop (i'm not talking about ports which can be played litteraly on every other platform available today).
I mean, are you guys really expected yet another 2017 with huge first party line-up like SMO, XC2 and BOTW all in one year? Such things happen like once in like 15-20 years (if not once in a life time) when it comes to Nintendo so... come on, be reasonable, please remember and keep in mind that almost no one bought Wii U. So, if next year will be full of Wii U ports again and with little to no interesting core first party games (i'm sorry, Nintendo, but Kirby or Yoshi is really not what hardcore gamers want to play) developed only for Switch, then you'll have every reason to complain to say WTF and i will join you.
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TwiztidElf
Member
I know it's a bit niche, outside of most peoples radars, and certainly a second tier title, but I double dipped and picked up One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 on Switch and I'm absolutely loving it all over again. It is without doubt my most played game since I closed out God of War. So much fun.
noqtic
Member
1) You're comparing the Switch's lifespan to the PS4 which was released back in 2013. Have we forgotten that for the PS4's first year it's best game was Last of Us Remastered?
2) You can't dismiss this because it doesn't conform to your opinion, getting ports of good games is never a bad thing especially if they came from a system that didn't sell to a lot of people. Not like it is stopping Nintendo's main developers from making games.
3) Virtual console as we know it is dead - that's already been confirmed. It's more up to Netflix, and Amazon to release those apps on Switch (I'll reserve my judgement on that till after e3 where hopefully Nintendo will go into more detail about their online model releasing in Sept.)
4) Why does it have to be open-world? those aren't the only types of 'ambitious' games, and those excuses you speak of are legitimate reasons for others. We can understand why you may be disappointed, but you can't just project your feelings onto others and at this point it just sounds like your whining.
mushy tailspin
Banned
What's smtv?
TLZ
Banned
If you're only in for exclusives and have/had a Wii u, plus a PS4 and Xbone, I guess you can be disappointed. If you didn't have any of these and just have a Switch, I guess you're happy with the current lineup.
Personally I have a Wii u that I still play, plus a PS4, so the lineup isn't impressive to me. I'd really like more exclusives so this first half of the year was disappointing. Eagerly waiting the second half hoping it gets better.
I did just order fifa 18 for Switch though since I found it for au$20 and I'm curious how it looks and plays portably. I guess there are many who did just the same for games they already own on other systems just for portable curiosity.
Personally I have a Wii u that I still play, plus a PS4, so the lineup isn't impressive to me. I'd really like more exclusives so this first half of the year was disappointing. Eagerly waiting the second half hoping it gets better.
I did just order fifa 18 for Switch though since I found it for au$20 and I'm curious how it looks and plays portably. I guess there are many who did just the same for games they already own on other systems just for portable curiosity.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
mushy tailspin
Banned
In Japan they call Christmas present day? Why are the angels from bayonetta doing that perverted train style groping on that girl? Seems satanic.
EDMIX
Member
" Third parties have to fill in the gap at some point"
No they don't. Nintendo made a weak system, they need to expect very little 3rd party support by major AAA titles.
"The Switch is still relatively new"
Thats just a tired excuse though, PS4 and XONE got more AAA 3rd party games in 1 year then Switch is seeing year 1 and 2 combined soooooo yea. It has nothing to do with "new" it has everything to with its hardware being OLD. releasing a "new" system means very little fir their hardware is still dated compared to PS4 and XONE.
So Arkham Knight not coming to Wii U, is the same reason why Rocksteady's next game won't come to Switch. Thus, nothing has changed, thus you won't see some difference with releases.
The Division 2 announced, no Switch version
Rage 2 announced, no Switch version
Anthem announced, no Switch version
Call Of Duty Black Ops 4 announced, no Switch version
Battlefield V announced, no Switch version
Shadow Of The Tomb Raider announced, no Switch version
and the list goes on.
yet RE7 STREAMING ONLY on Switch? What does that tell you about the hardware? What does that tell you about developers willingness (or lack of it) to put content on this platform? Tells me either they can't based on hardware limitations, won't based on likeliness of low sales based on the core install base only really buying Nintendo IP or both. So "new" didn't stop Assassins Creed, Battlefield or Call Of Duty from appearing on PS4 and XONE AT LAUNCH DAY 1!
Gun Animal
Member
It's different because the Switch is a mobile platform. I still have a Vita just to play MGS1-2-3 and PW in bed, at work, on the bus, etc. EVERY DAY I think to myself "Man, I wish we'd gotten that MGS4 Vita port they were talking about..." Handheld ports of Console games are always a good thing.
Well, it WAS a H1/2018 game... Until they delayed it. I would have been very happy with H1 if not for that delay. In fact, I'd be playing it right now instead of posting in this thread!
Agreed. If they brought over most of the N64 and Gamecube library to the Switch I'd probably go a whole year or maybe two without buying a NEW Switch game. Hell, maybe I'd finally 100% Super Mario Sunshine?
That's Nintendo for ya! It's been 13 years since the Xbox 360 was released and Nintendo still can't cope with HD game development at a competitive pace.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Switch can't handle any of this without REALLY HUGE compromises and GFX downgrades, and who the fuck want's shitty and massively inferior version of RAGE 2, Anthem, BO4, BFV, SOTTR (the list goes on) just to play it on a shitter? Better nothing than this in my book and there's still plenty of games to play on Switch while you're waiting FE, SMTV, Prime 4, Pokemon RPG etc.
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I must admit that I am in the category of "I can't hold all these games".
Right now the Switch sit right next to my TV. It is the only new piece of game console that I bother playing on, since I can go on the e-shop, purchase whatever new games that strikes my fancy, and then download them, only to wonder how I will actually get the time to play them.
Every couple of weeks, I buy a bunch of games from the e-shop, after having read or listened to podcasts or watched videos about the games from various sites such as Nintendo World Report and Nintendo Life, Nintendo voice chat, and of course various youtubers. I manage to get some great and diverse opinions so that I know beforehand what games to buy.
And there are so many enjoyable games I end up with. Looking back to the time when I had to wait for months for a single new game to come out for my Nintendo 64, and now this. A smorgasbord of games, more and more games. Oh my goodness so many games.
Just a little point of view from me and my Nintendo Switch.
Right now the Switch sit right next to my TV. It is the only new piece of game console that I bother playing on, since I can go on the e-shop, purchase whatever new games that strikes my fancy, and then download them, only to wonder how I will actually get the time to play them.
Every couple of weeks, I buy a bunch of games from the e-shop, after having read or listened to podcasts or watched videos about the games from various sites such as Nintendo World Report and Nintendo Life, Nintendo voice chat, and of course various youtubers. I manage to get some great and diverse opinions so that I know beforehand what games to buy.
And there are so many enjoyable games I end up with. Looking back to the time when I had to wait for months for a single new game to come out for my Nintendo 64, and now this. A smorgasbord of games, more and more games. Oh my goodness so many games.
Just a little point of view from me and my Nintendo Switch.
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HeresJohnny
Member
The only game I've played this year on my Switch is Skyrim, and while it's awesome to have a perfectly playable version of that game on the go, it's still like 9 years old.
This is what I'm primarily confused about, the hybrid was supposed to nip this!
Straight Edge
Member
Patiently waiting for Hollow Knight since last summer...
GeekyDad
Member
Whelp, I'm just now planning to get a Switch this holiday, so I'm pretty excited. I purposely waited (like I typically do) to let there be at least a decent number of games I want before purchasing, and by the time the holiday rolls up, there will definitely be more games than I can afford to buy. So, yeah...I'm good in that department. 
dragonfart28
Banned
I think most people are used to it and just don't give a flying flute to be honest.
People treat Nintendo consoles as their secondary rig for the odd exclusive and Switch isn't much different.
It's really not something to lose any sleep over.
People treat Nintendo consoles as their secondary rig for the odd exclusive and Switch isn't much different.
It's really not something to lose any sleep over.
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
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Yeah, it's not great but Smash Bros is enough for me.
I bought the Switch knowing it was going to be a very secondary thing, but Breath of The Wild and Mario Odyssey were so great that they're pretty much worth the price of admission alone, everything else is just gravy.
I will say though that I hope to see more than one game that really interests me next year, hopefully 2018 is just a fluke.
Also, yeah there's no denying the Switch is underpowered, but that's just how Nintendo rolls now, it's always some central gimmick (touch screen, motion controls, tablet controller, 3D screen) and a step behind the competition power wise (DS behind the PSP, WII behind the 360/PS3, 3DS behind the Vita and Wii U/Switch behind the PS4/XBO)
But the secret to their success, what keeps me coming back anyway, is they still have great game designers.
I bought the Switch knowing it was going to be a very secondary thing, but Breath of The Wild and Mario Odyssey were so great that they're pretty much worth the price of admission alone, everything else is just gravy.
I will say though that I hope to see more than one game that really interests me next year, hopefully 2018 is just a fluke.
Also, yeah there's no denying the Switch is underpowered, but that's just how Nintendo rolls now, it's always some central gimmick (touch screen, motion controls, tablet controller, 3D screen) and a step behind the competition power wise (DS behind the PSP, WII behind the 360/PS3, 3DS behind the Vita and Wii U/Switch behind the PS4/XBO)
But the secret to their success, what keeps me coming back anyway, is they still have great game designers.
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Man, there are so many games coming for the NS, I don't have enough money to get them all. Still quite a few I want to get as well. Even with the first half of 2018 being not as amazing as it should have been, I'll still end up with too many games to play by the end of the year. That's not a bad problem to have, honestly.
Vawn
Banned
Well, yeah, there's like 10 new games each week, but it's almost all garbage. All consoles and steam are guilty of this as well. It's just the Switch store makes it a little more difficult to find the good stuff amgonst the shovelware.
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I wouldn't say that. I just picked up ICEY and that game is fun and cheap. I'll admit that I did pick up Pure (Eri Kitami) as well and...well...she's a babe, so it's okay. Just don't tell my wife.
Picked up Street Fighter 30th Anniversary and Battle Chasers in the last couple of weeks. Wife has been playing Pokemon Quest like crazy since it came out a few days ago. I'll admit that it would be nice to have a rating system so we can see what the high rated games from players are like it was on the Wii U, but chatting with friends and on forums has pointed me in the direction of some stuff I would have never even considered...like ICEY. I can't wait for The Lost Child this month. Looking forward to that one a lot.
I feel like there's too much stuff to play and not enough time to play them all.
Also, the NS news tab is my friend. I've signed up for a number of "channels" to get more information and it's been helpful is choosing what games to play. I recommend people do the same.
JetSetRadio
Banned
It's nothing but a secondary console for exclusives here so it's fine. Mario Tennis plays great, will probably be my only purchase this year.
Zog
Banned
If you want to play Wii U games, you should have bought a Wii U. I think it's pretty selfish to be asking for ports instead of new games because YOU didn't buy a Wii U.
Just curious, but why buy a console if you're only gonna buy one game for it?
gustave154
Member
After the more than amazing lineup of 2017, its going to be hard to top that lol well maybe smash might change my mind
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Yep, i haven't bought Wii U and i'm not asking for ports, but at the same time i've nothing agaist Wii U ports and will buy them if i like and want to play the game. Also, i've bought Switch not cuz i want to play ports, i bought it first and foremost to play BOTW, SMO, XC2, Splatoon 2, Prime 4 and more games which would be made specifically for Switch.
Gun Animal
Member
Zog
Banned
No it isn't.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Huh? Bought it last year when MK8 launched and I'm still playing that online, same with Splatoon 2. I also have Zelda and SMO in my backlog, dropped them both after a couple hours because the PS4 2017 library was amazing and I can't play two games at the same time.
theclaw135
Banned
Unlike the Wii (which was never publicly announced as discontinued in North America), Nintendo told everybody point blank Wii U was dead, shortly before the Switch launch.
Do you think people who begun gaming with a Switch would be happy if Nintendo turned around and said they should buy a console that had just been killed?
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Zog
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First of all, the Wii U was available for 4 years. There was plenty of time to buy one. Secondly, you can still buy one used.
Thirdly, your last sentence makes no sense. I am the one saying 'you should have bought a Wii U if you wanted to play Wii U games', not Nintendo.
Is it really so crazy to tell someone to buy a console if they want to play that consoles exclusives? Would you complain if I said 'if you want to play Mario Sunshine, go buy a Gamecube'?
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Acerac
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noqtic
Member
Not counting how terrible Ghosts and Battlefield 4(Pre-DLC) were, the PS4 still didn't release a notable AAA first party game till Bloodborne in 2015. That is of course if you don't count the Last of Us Remastered, but I've been told those games don't matter. Xbox One had a great balance it's first year or so, but it's been having major trouble with releasing major first party games since late 2015.
It's not like third parties haven't been releasing and announcing great games for Switch ( I won't bother to make a list since I'll be told they're not battlefield or call of duty). We all know the Switch is weaker than the competition, and if you bought one thinking that it would get versions of the latest cutting edge technically demanding "AAA" games (Call of Duty withstanding), then you've made a misinformed purchase.
If all you want are 'AAA' games then yeah you might be disappointed with the Switch but 'AAA' games aren't the only good/great games being made.
Zog
Banned
How many people knowingly paid $300 for an indie machine? People expect more from the Switch than they are getting and no amount of 'you should have known better' is going to change that.
theclaw135
Banned
A sign AAA first party games are slipping in their impact on the overall industry. With the market saturated by indies, ports, and AAA multiplatform, one can enjoy modern consoles just fine hardly touching first party. We're a far cry from the early NES era where EVERYTHING good was by or felt like Nintendo.
Heck both the NES and Famicom had no third party published titles in their first 10~11 months of release.
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astroglide
Member
Ya i dont know why people think its amazing. Plays mostly last gen games and current ones severely hindered. People tend to think Nintendo does no wrong.
EDMIX
Member
"A sign AAA first party games are slipping in their impact on the overall industry. " ??? nope.
https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/3/17314880/god-of-war-ps4-sales-record
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...on-sales-worldwide-ahead-of-its-1st-birthday/
EDMIX
Member
"It's not like third parties haven't been releasing and announcing great games for Switch"
They clearly are not when it comes to the top titles coming out, ie Far Cry, Assassins Creed, BF, COD, Red Dead the list goes on. This is basically sounding like Wii, Wii U etc all over again. I don't know how that is a great thing to be honest, less games isn't good so...
The same issue that made them lose lots of games those last gens, will continue to make them lose a lot this gen, from where I stand, nothing has really changed. We are still going into another gen with a boat load of games not coming to Nintendo platforms. This is what happens when you have a platform basically made for 1 publisher.
Mozza
Member
It all depends on your own viewpoint,for the people like us who are core gamers that post on internet sites the Switch line up will not have enough games,but lets be honest here most people on this and other dedicated forums will own another console so the Switch was always going to be an additional source of videogame entertainment.
There will also be a lot of customers that own a Switch that are far more casual than ourselves and will look at the Switch's 700 e-Shop library and have far too much to play.
There will also be a lot of customers that own a Switch that are far more casual than ourselves and will look at the Switch's 700 e-Shop library and have far too much to play.