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[ReBurn]

There are many xbox fanboys here unfortunately. When I have also posted my honest opinion in regards to Xbox X and BC (basically saying it's a mixed bag) I have seen the same funny responses from the same guys LOL. "You dont know what you are talking about" (alhough I have provided evidence), "you dont have Xbox X" (although I have provided many screenshots from Xbox X games).

I also think BC is very great feature but some xbox fanboys are really extreme and you basically cant say ANYTHING bad in regards to xbox.

Tbh, all fanboys tend to be extreme. They're always ready to jump to the defense of their passions, whether that's xbox, Ps4, sports teams, etc. It can be annoying. That said, it's also pretty low class to go into threads where people are discussing the things they like and then shitpost an "honest opinion" about it where honesty is actually negativity. If a lot of people are talking about how much they like something in a thread dedicated to that topic and someone comes in and tries to derail the discussion with complaining about the topic it's a dick move.

 

[Cranberrys]

I'm so happy with PoP 2008. Eventually Forgotten Sands will be Added and hopefully the FFXIII trilogy.

Do you guys think there's a chance for Amalur on BC ?

 

[Artistic]

Prince of Persia is BC? Been sitting on a copy gifted to me for some months.

 

[ipukespiders]

Most people aren't reading manuals, but is there an easy way to see in game manuals (from your XBOX One) for BC games that I am missing? A web based xbox.com search for Tomb Raider Underworld gives search results for the "old" store and the new. Luckily I can view the game manual on the old store, but is it missing from the One store? To illustrate what I mean:

 

[Susurrus]

So I was playing Kane & Lynch 2 on my Xbox One (via BC) and decided to look at my Xbox 360 saves on said console. I noticed that even though I had all my cloud saves from my 360 synced to the cloud and able to be loaded on my One, nothing was syncing back, everything is saying "pending upload" but is stuff that I haven't played for a year (shortly after I got my One) up to recently. I'm pretty sure my Xbox One saves are syncing (or at least I hope they are...anyone know how to check?...do saves erase when you delete the game?), but not the 360. I will also say that I have trouble signing in on the 360 from time to time, but it usually eventually works. I do have gold and have tried pressing the button for syncing, but no luck. Anyone know how to fix it? A quick google search does nothing.

 

[pawel86ck]

Tbh, all fanboys tend to be extreme. They're always ready to jump to the defense of their passions, whether that's xbox, Ps4, sports teams, etc. It can be annoying. That said, it's also pretty low class to go into threads where people are discussing the things they like and then shitpost an "honest opinion" about it where honesty is actually negativity. If a lot of people are talking about how much they like something in a thread dedicated to that topic and someone comes in and tries to derail the discussion with complaining about the topic it's a dick move.

There are poleople like that. Yes some people (internet trolls) dont even have the real hardware and will post complains just for hating reasons, meaning without taking into account the whole picture, but these are extreme scenarios and I think here on neogaf someone like that would quickly earn a ban.

Yes, people are discussing the things they like, but fanboys opinions are biased and arnt detailed enough and that's also "a dick move" because based on that other people later on buy real games and hardware just to find out problems no one have mentioned. Also companies like microsoft can improve their producs when enough people will talk about problems and issues, and the thing is, when no people talks about problems they will do nothing about it.

Personally I had all xbox consoles and I like what guys from MS have done, so I'm not xbox hater, just the opossite. When I bought xbox X I was very enthusiastic to see my favorite BC games in a new light and stuff like that, but unfortunately not everything worked so well as I hoped and I have posted my detailed impression. I have talked about problems as well, because I really hoped MS can fix all of that (I wasnt hating for hate reasons if you know what I mean), yet I was still attacked. It's sad to see the same guys now attacking other xbox owner in the same way "you dont have xbox", "you dont know what you are talking about", basically doing everything to ridicule someone else opinion even when it comes from real xbox owner .

MS made a fantastic decision with BC feature, it's nearly perfectly implemented so I hope they will continue improving it even more. Personally I like to play old games because very rarely new games interest me, and there are still many old classics that I would like to see on xbox X. For example
Splinter cell 1-4 (OG xbox double agent, not 360 version)
Ralli Sport challenge 1-2
Burnout 2-4
Bruteforce
Forza 1
Enclave
Riddick
Yager
Colin Mc 3-5
RTCW (xbox version is unique)
GTA 3 and VC (the same as RTCW)

Gears of war 1 4K enchanced
Alan Wake 4K enchanced
Fable 2 4K enchanced
Forza 2-4 4K enchanced
GTA 4 4K enchanced
GTA 5 xbox one version 4K patch
Forza horizon 2 4K patch

And many more... so I hope MS will continue their great work.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

All i ask for is Fight Night Champion to get X enhanced!

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

All i ask for is Fight Night Champion to get X enhanced!

Now that would be cool. I put about five hours into FNC on the X a few weeks back and it was amazing fun. And it'd look crazy good in 4k (or downsampled to 1080p).

 

[Mochilador]

Where is my MGS HD Collectioooon??

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

my new Xbone back-compat pickups for August (excluding Ninja Gaiden II, damnit MS). I have bunch more that are in transit but this is what has rocked up so far:

 

[ipukespiders]

Shadow of the Tomb Raider is out in a month. The first three Crystal Dynamics Tomb Raiders are on sale this week.
Underworld is already BC, but now is the time to add Anniversary and Legends. Do it Microsoft!

 

[TheWatcher]

Reach in native 5K would be brilliant.

 

[TheWatcher]

4k!

 

[Mochilador]

Native 5K would be awesome.

 

[YoshiMax]

Shadow of the Tomb Raider is out in a month. The first three Crystal Dynamics Tomb Raiders are on sale this week.
Underworld is already BC, but now is the time to add Anniversary and Legends. Do it Microsoft!

This weeks lottery numbers please

 

[Thiagosc777]

Ah, better than nothing I suppose.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Ah, better than nothing I suppose.

Which titles are you hoping for?

 

[Thiagosc777]

MGS HD, Nier, Binary Domain, Lollipop Chainsaw, Ninja Gaiden II, the OG Splinter Cell series, etc.

Now they have only one day of the week for BC games. This is it for this week. Let's hope next week, gamescom, they have some OG Xbox games.

 

[jshackles]

Fuck yeah, tomb raider.

Legend was kinda shit, but I loved Anniversary.

 

[Mochilador]

I have both! Cool.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

Nice! I just ordered my copy of Anniversary then (I already have Legend).

I was actually in the mood to do a play through of Tomb Raider 1 on the PS1 earlier this week so this is a great addition to the BC library for me. I absolutely loved the slower pace of the originals and the sense of exploration that they inspire.

The soundtrack is really fantastic in Anniversary too:

 

[Allandor]

This weeks lottery numbers please

yes ..
i hoped for those since last year.

 

[CRAIG667]

Anyone know what percent of the 360's library is now BC?

 

[ipukespiders]

Holy shit, LOL!

 

[JORMBO]

I was hoping we would eventually get the two TR games.

 

[jshackles]

Anyone know what percent of the 360's library is now BC?

With today's releases there are now 535 games that are backwards compatible, but 32 of them are for the original Xbox.

Wikipedia says there were 2100 games released on the Xbox 360, but that includes all regions as well as games released as part of their indie series etc.

So I guess it's 503/2100 or about 24%. The other 76% has a really big mix of super obscure stuff mixed with JP only releases and things that also released or re-released on the Xbox One.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Is the Xbox One region-free? Microsoft could get my dollar if they made the 360 shmup catalogue available via BC. Much of it was region-locked to Japan. I'd buy an X1 for that.

 

[ipukespiders]

I recently tried another play through of TR Legends on my 360 and it ran like absolute dog shit. Here's to hoping the frame rate is smoother on the One.

 

[flashfire926]

With today's releases there are now 535 games that are backwards compatible, but 32 of them are for the original Xbox.

Wikipedia says there were 2100 games released on the Xbox 360, but that includes all regions as well as games released as part of their indie series etc.

So I guess it's 503/2100 or about 24%. The other 76% has a really big mix of super obscure stuff mixed with JP only releases and things that also released or re-released on the Xbox One.

Too add to that there are also countless yearly sports titles which have no chance of making it either.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

Tomb Raider Anniversary gameplay on the X:



It holds up really well!

 

[ipukespiders]

And Legend:

 

[Naked Lunch]

Anniversary is easily the best Tomb Raider game of the entire series. If youve played and remember the original, its got so many nostalgic nods from the puzzles, to the textures, and music cues. Ive only played it on PS2 and 3. I remember the framerate being pretty shit on PS3. I'll have to get a digital XB1 copy to see how it compares.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

Anniversary is easily the best Tomb Raider game of the entire series. If youve played and remember the original, its got so many nostalgic nods from the puzzles, to the textures, and music cues. Ive only played it on PS2 and 3. I remember the framerate being pretty shit on PS3. I'll have to get a digital XB1 copy to see how it compares.

The digital version is on sale at the moment for $2.00 (US):

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Tomb-Raider-Anniv/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802534307ea

Watching the first level being played in the video linked above brought back great memories of when I originally played the PS1 version back in the 90s. It's been years since I last played it but I could still recall the level layout as it was being played. The dev team seem to have done a great job with the remake. I can't wait for my copy to rock up in the post!

 

[Naked Lunch]

$2!?! Sold!
TR1 was just magical back in the day. Anni does a great job recapturing it. The last level in Anni is pretty crap from my memory but overall the game is worth a playthrough.

 

[ipukespiders]

Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two is now up free for Gold subscribers.

 

[CRAIG667]

With today's releases there are now 535 games that are backwards compatible, but 32 of them are for the original Xbox.

Wikipedia says there were 2100 games released on the Xbox 360, but that includes all regions as well as games released as part of their indie series etc.

So I guess it's 503/2100 or about 24%. The other 76% has a really big mix of super obscure stuff mixed with JP only releases and things that also released or re-released on the Xbox One.

Thanks man, thought it'd be higher however having over 500 BC games that play better on xb1 is awesome!

 

[jshackles]

Thanks man, thought it'd be higher however having over 500 BC games that play better on xb1 is awesome!

More than anything it just speaks to how incredibly large the Xbox 360's library was! There were around 1,100 retail releases in North America, which is bananas. Add on the digital-only games, indies (I Made A Game With Zombies In It, anyone?), multiple annual sports franchises, etc and you end up with a library that's roughly three times the size of something like the NES.

All that is to say that comparatively speaking, there aren't that many unique experiences that the 360 had to offer that either aren't already backwards compatible or have been remastered for the One.

Now where's my BC Final Fantasy XIII trilogy?

 

[ipukespiders]

I recently tried another play through of TR Legends on my 360 and it ran like absolute dog shit. Here's to hoping the frame rate is smoother on the One.

Just to follow up on my post, Legends runs beautifully now (original XBOX One, not S or X). Very smooth so far compared to the 360.

Edit: VG Tech video

 

[Bernkastel]

I wonder if Microsoft will ever make the MSX backwards compatible ?

 

[Mattyp]

More than anything it just speaks to how incredibly large the Xbox 360's library was! There were around 1,100 retail releases in North America, which is bananas.

Yep, for me the backwards compatibility stands at 50% or more when its the big games and the ones that matter that we talk about and you take out about 50 editions of FIFA, NBA, etc.

I remember clearly how badly it first got shit on with the so few titles they had on offer. The same things still happens with the OG xbox. Great things take time, this is for the future for every generation going forward catching the last 2 up and making sure the games are around for lifetimes.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

So I'm still 80 hours into my Oblivion playthrough but I thought that I'd have a small break and finally try to get through Red Dead Redemption before the sequel comes out. And hot damn! I'm constantly blown away by how good it is. John Marston is the best character that Rockstar has created IMO.

And it looks so great on the X in 4k. What a game...

<3 the Xbone X & back compat.

Bring on Red Dead Redemption 2!

I wonder if Microsoft will ever make the MSX backwards compatible ?

Now that'd be cool. That 8-bit home computer was before my time but as a collector, it'd be great to be able to access/experience all of Microsoft's content on a single platform (Xbone or Scarlet)

 

[Humdinger]

And Legend:

I'm continually amazed at how much I remember, from games I played once, 10-15 years ago. It's like hearing a song you haven't heard in a long time, and you can still remember the way it goes.

That also reminds me of how Tomb Raider used to have a lightness and sense of humor about it. I like that better than the relentlessly serious tone of the new series.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

For the Aussie Xbox GAF crew:
Xbox One X 1TB $519.20 Delivered @ Microsoft Store eBay

20% off code - PSURFACE20. Ends 22/08 (RRP AU $649.00).

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Xbox-On...OSwQN1bGJai:sc:AU_StandardDelivery!6210!AU!-1

 

[maxwell247]

Nothing new today?

 

[Mochilador]

Nothing new today?

Guess not. We still have thursday!

 

[Thiagosc777]

Guess not. We still have thursday!

They haven't released anything on Thursday for months, Because this week is gamescom, I'd bet only next week.

 

[Animazor]

Does anyone have any predictions for tomorrow?
Since the last few weeks, you guys made some accurate predictions, I want to be ahead and buy without the stores inflate the prices

 

[jshackles]

Does anyone have any predictions for tomorrow?
Since the last few weeks, you guys made some accurate predictions, I want to be ahead and buy without the stores inflate the prices

Since Microsoft's been touting how important Japanese developers, single player experiences, and backwards compatibility are at Gamescom, my guess is we'll see something that fits that description.

Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy
Infinite Undiscovery
Eternal Sonata

I would have included The Last Remnant in that list except it's got expired licenses apparently so there would be little reason for it to come to the service

 

[Animazor]

Since Microsoft's been touting how important Japanese developers, single player experiences, and backwards compatibility are at Gamescom, my guess is we'll see something that fits that description.

Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy
Infinite Undiscovery
Eternal Sonata

I would have included The Last Remnant in that list except it's got expired licenses apparently so there would be little reason for it to come to the service

Man, I wish that can be true. I am a sucker for RPG's and I own all of those you just mentioned.

Really?! that means The Last Remnant will be very hard to become BC. That is a shame...

 

[jshackles]

Man, I wish that can be true. I am a sucker for RPG's and I own all of those you just mentioned.

Really?! that means The Last Remnant will be very hard to become BC. That is a shame...

Yeah - the Steam version is getting delisted so it's not looking good. It's a shame, considering the game runs terrible on the 360 and the One / One X could have probably brought the framerate up considerably.