Technically speaking they are selling products, which would technically make them a small business and should have to pay taxes like any other small business. I mean, it can be considered under the table as well, but it's out in the open where under the table work is usually far more discrete. Hmmm... do people who do art commissions pay taxes? I believe if they use patreon that patreon pays taxes for them, but not sure if that's the case if they get it directly from say Paypal or something.
That's a shame. To be honest, I had a similar experience with VGChartz. The site was stagnant for years, but a shred of hope arrived when an old coder returned to the site. Well, he wanted help from certain users in order to manage all of issues that needed to be fixed and communicating with the users so that he would just have to focus on the actual fixes and leave the community aspect to others. Well, he allowed me and another person to do so, but the mod team did not like that at all. They wanted the mod team to handle it and essentially kicked us two out. Now, we were eventually brought back in after the coder objected, but of course the tensions always existed and were never rectified. It was a losing battle for me as I was a relative upstart in the community whereas the mods had been supplanted there for years.
Sorry for rambling. I just wanted to say that it does sound like something that could plausibly occur and I do understand the depression. I was extremely depressed myself from those turns of events. However, yours was probably even worse than mine since, while they did threaten to ban and nuke my account (actually the coder did because there was some guy creating multiple alts and the mods put it into his head that it was me, though of course it was later proven false), it was me that asked for a permaban (as a result of a combination of my unhappiness being there, their dislike of me and my displeasure with their efforts in moderation) and while they refused to ban me, I got an admin to do it for me.
I hope that you at least managed to stay in contact with those whom you were on amicable terms with. I now have accomplished what I came here for, but I guess if you really want to talk to me I can stay for PMs (though be warned I have far left views). I hope that you feel much better than you did when you were banned at least!
Sorry to hear that something similar had happened to you, and yeah depression was a mix of that some other stuff. I do still talk to some of those people so it's not all bad but I've moved on as well from the whole situation, I wouldn't mind PM's tbh you don't seem like a bad person, and well I don't mind if you're far left . everyones entitled to their own opinion.
Technically speaking they are selling products, which would technically make them a small business and should have to pay taxes like any other small business. I mean, it can be considered under the table as well, but it's out in the open where under the table work is usually far more discrete. Hmmm... do people who do art commissions pay taxes? I believe if they use patreon that patreon pays taxes for them, but not sure if that's the case if they get it directly from say Paypal or something.
In my longer post I did mention just that. Any of those snap girls who sells stuff under the table or the likes does not pay taxes but anyone and this is the vast majority of them that are using Patreon, Manyvids, OnlyFans, etc are all paying taxes, and after a threshold are required to submit W8 forms for filing stuff with the IRS or they won't be paid out.
When you choose to do it because of someone's gender or profession or whatever individual detail, it can be seen as harassment. Not 100% sure about harassment but this at the very least shows that people have an axe to grind with certain type of certain gender people with certain types of assets in a certain type of situation.
Being a "white knight" is embarrassing on its own but I'm starting to think that being the opposite of "white knight" might be equally up there with it.
So you do have an issue with cops that park by bars to arrest drunks as that is clearly harassment using your definition. Fair enough, as long as you are consistent in your beliefs I have no qualms. Granted, this stance doesn't seem universal...
No. I am ok with cops targeting bars if they are going after drunk drivers. That is reasonable increased scrutiny that is easy to clear up. I think it is wrong for people that don't like someone in a bar to call the police on them when they haven't done anything, or at least have no evidence of wrong doing. That is a more analogous situation.
To clarify further. It seems you are focusing on the government's role in this. It is within their purview to enforce the law. No disagreement. My issue is with people abusing the report function of the IRS, not the IRS audit process
I think it's ok to report a noisy bar if they are louder than they are supposed to be even if you don't have proof. Why is this unreasonable?
If the IRS pays a reward to those who report those who have evaded paying their taxes it seems like it is working as intended? Why else would that exist if the IRS didn't intend for people to report those who they suspected of dodging taxes? I mean, it seems the express purpose of the function to me?
I'm smart enough to know Resetera is not your friend. They hide behind "diversity/feminism" in order to destroy lives.
It's this moral posturing and flagellant ignorance I am more than willing to call out.
I think saying the forum "destroy lives" is kinda a hyperbole.
At the end of the day they are just a forum, but sometimes your posts sound like you are on a crusade against the evil ERA that is destroying society as whole.
I think saying the forum "destroy lives" is kinda a hyperbole.
At the end of the day they are just a forum, but sometimes your posts sound like you are on a crusade against the evil ERA that is destroying society as whole.
It may sound like a hyperbole, but consider the amount of times ERA encourages people to close all contact with people who are not "progressive" in real life.
Or how about the fact that they doxx users who go against the agenda?
I don't treat Resetera with kids gloves because everything that comes out of that forum is pure toxicity. Some of that toxicity is bound to spill out in real life.
Their bullshit also has an effect on the game industry. How about the time they tried to paint the developers of Kingdom Come as racist?
Sorry to hear that something similar had happened to you, and yeah depression was a mix of that some other stuff. I do still talk to some of those people so it's not all bad but I've moved on as well from the whole situation, I wouldn't mind PM's tbh you don't seem like a bad person, and well I don't mind if you're far left . everyones entitled to their own opinion.
Well, it's good that you still keep in contact with some people, but I guess sometimes it's better to just try to start fresh instead of continuously attempting to cling onto it and being hurt.
Edit: I'm also being reminded via the posts here why I wasn't too keen on joining, I just think that nothing productive is going to come out of me being here other than unnecessary frustration.
It may sound like a hyperbole, but consider the amount of times ERA encourages people to close all contact with people who are not "progressive" in real life.
Or how about the fact that they doxx users who go against the agenda?
I don't treat Resetera with kids gloves because everything that comes out of that forum is pure toxicity. Some of that toxicity is bound to spill out in real life.
I saw stupid advices like cutting of family/friends there plenty of times, but even on real life we get bad advices all the time. It is up to us to make the final decision ourselves and only listen to people we can fully trust, not some random people on the internet.
The doxxing is extremely wrong i agree, but as far as i saw there the mods actually ban those people who are doxxing others, so is this not some more fanatic members, and not the entire forum as whole? Genuine question
If I bunch of USAers rushed the border I would want it closed so I sort of get why it's done as a liberal. I am all for more welcoming immigration policies but I think we also need to be realistic.
I love the dream of a world without borders but it's just not realistic. At least not anytime soon.
I saw stupid advices like cutting of family/friends there plenty of times, but even on real life we get bad advices all the time. It is up to us to make the final decision ourselves and only listen to people we can fully trust, not some random people on the internet.
The doxxing is extremely wrong i agree, but as far as i saw there the mods actually ban those people who are doxxing others, so is this not some more fanatic members, and not the entire forum as whole? Genuine question
Well, it's good that you still keep in contact with some people, but I guess sometimes it's better to just try to start fresh instead of continuously attempting to cling onto it and being hurt.
Edit: I'm also being reminded via the posts here why I wasn't too keen on joining, I just think that nothing productive is going to come out of me being here other than unnecessary frustration.
Yeah it's understandable if you don't continue to use GAF, if it's just this thread I'd say ignore this one in particular, but if it's other stuff as well if anything maybe I'll be on ERA again one day. lol
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tbh I didn't think anyone actually cared about my side of the whole situation tbh. Thanks for at least coming over on here to ask about it.
I just fail to see how requiring people to pay taxes is harassment. Is it because of who is doing it, like if the IRS randomly audited these people it'd be fine, right?
You do know that cops park outside of bars explicitly to catch drunks, right? Is this immoral?
Have I ever said that requiring people to pay taxes is harassment? Reporting people without any evidence for commiting a crime / fellony is harassment. I am absolutely in favour of taxing income, and I never said anything to the contrary.
Yeah it's understandable if you don't continue to use GAF, if it's just this thread I'd say ignore this one in particular, but if it's other stuff as well if anything maybe I'll be on ERA again one day. lol
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tbh I didn't think anyone actually cared about my side of the whole situation tbh. Thanks for at least coming over on here to ask about it.
Well, I always wondered what had happened, and why one of the first ERA members was banned. It was also something that I had never seen you discuss in-detail, so I decided to make an account to find out =D Well, I hope you enjoy your stay here at least! By the way, I like your avy, CSR is one of my favourite artists =D
In my longer post I did mention just that. Any of those snap girls who sells stuff under the table or the likes does not pay taxes but anyone and this is the vast majority of them that are using Patreon, Manyvids, OnlyFans, etc are all paying taxes, and after a threshold are required to submit W8 forms for filing stuff with the IRS or they won't be paid out.
Well then, anyone doing it under the table is doing it just as illegally as anyone else doing a job under the table. It's not enough for any law enforcement to actually care about it. Anyone using patreon and the like are legit and are no different than anyone drawing porn on patreon. I mean, in the end, they wouldn't do it if someone wasn't willing to pay, so I don't know why it matters. Yeah, feels fucked up when some work hard and don't get near as much as these women do, but what can you do about it? Not care is the best option honestly.
But this is off topic and to jump back on topic, ERA kind of scares me. Like, it's a pictured example of what fascism looks like, but none of them notices and that is quite worrisome.
Have I ever said that requiring people to pay taxes is harassment? Reporting people without any evidence for commiting a crime / fellony is harassment. I am absolutely in favour of taxing income, and I never said anything to the contrary.
So what is your stance on cops watching outside of bars for drunks? Many sober people get pulled over because of circumstantial evidence and I just do not see nearly the outcry there.
Is this harassment of bar patrons? What if it's a gay bar? I'm not being sarcastic I legitimately am curious about your stances on these subjects and whether or not you have spoken out against them.
Well, I always wondered what had happened, and why one of the first ERA members was banned. It was also something that I had never seen you discuss in-detail, so I decided to make an account to find out =D Well, I hope you enjoy your stay here at least! By the way, I like your avy, CSR is one of my favourite artists =D
Yeah that's fair enough my account was number 8 after all lol. I usually tried to just forget about the whole thing but I did promise one time I would explain it all thankfully I got it all out in the correct order I hope and yeah I've been the more laid back and tbh better debates I can see on here's compared to ERA.
Yea love CSR this one was so close to being NSFW but I got a damn nice crop on the picture so it fits perfectly.
So you do have an issue with cops that park by bars to arrest drunks as that is clearly harassment using your definition. Fair enough, as long as you are consistent in your beliefs I have no qualms. Granted, this stance doesn't seem universal...
I don't have an issue with cops who do that, assuming you mean drunk drivers and not just regular drunks. Cops and regular people have different rights. A cop can stop someone on a street and look for drugs or illegal weapons, a regular person can't.
Usually when police officers make "stings" like that they have knowledge and evidence of that being a problem. Are you saying the people who decided to do this to the cam girls have any real knowledge or evidence for anything regarding the issue?
Cops can also look for drivers who are speeding and go and stop them.
Now, obviously regular people also can report someone speeding to a cop, but in this camgirl situation it's more like someone looks at some slick dude coming out from his home, sitting on his Ferrari and turning its engine on and going on a ride, and then a neighbor looks at it and calls the cops that the Ferrari owner is speeding. In a situation like that it's more likely that the neighbor is either jealous or just has a grudge towards the Ferrari owner and is just wanting to call cops out of spite than him really caring if he is speeding or not.
I think it's ok to report a noisy bar if they are louder than they are supposed to be even if you don't have proof. Why is this unreasonable?
I bolded the important part.
When you don't hear a noise and still go to the police just because they perhaps might get louder than before, then you are being stupid - and depending on the situation it can be seen as harassment too.
I don't have an issue with cops who do that, assuming you mean drunk drivers and not just regular drunks. Cops and regular people have different rights. A cop can stop someone on a street and look for drugs or illegal weapons, a regular person can't.
Usually when police officers make "stings" like that they have knowledge and evidence of that being a problem. Are you saying the people who decided to do this to the cam girls have any real knowledge or evidence for anything regarding the issue?
Cops can also look for drivers who are speeding and go and stop them.
Now, obviously regular people also can report someone speeding to a cop, but in this camgirl situation it's more like someone looks at some slick dude coming out from his home, sitting on his Ferrari and turning its engine on and going on a ride, and then a neighbor looks at it and calls the cops that the Ferrari owner is speeding. In a situation like that it's more likely that the neighbor is either jealous or just has a grudge towards the Ferrari owner and is just wanting to call cops out of spite than him really caring if he is speeding or not.
It's not a sting when cops chill by bars and catch drunk drivers. lol
I get not liking the situation? But since these citizens are using legal channels to carry this stuff out I really don't think it matters why they are doing it. Sorta feels like a don't hate the player hate the game sorta thing, especially how the system is explicitly set up to pay those who legitimately report those who are evading taxes.
fwiw if they didn't have knowledge that these people skimped out on their taxes there wouldn't be such an outcry. The fact that this is blowing up so much kinda indicates that the audits had merit. It's kinda crazy how people refuse to admit this
Pretty much all your posts in this very thread are callouts or acts of surprise that we don't have thread X here. Is this really the way we need to converse? Come on.
Constantly pointing fingers like that without nuance will be seen by the teachers staff here.
JordanN
I understand if you want to show how Reset has some widespread insanity going on with certain subject matters but a thread where one person asks about something stupid while most of the replies are level-headed isn't a good example. If anything that thread should be an example of how things aren't as bad there as they could be.
Maybe you could say how the moderators let a thread like that be, but even then they at least haven't banned anyone from criticizing the OP.
JordanN is the NNN (NeoGaf News Network) reporter on ResetERA. No seriously, if you read his posts like its a CNN public message, it becomes really entertaining.
I do agree with you that this talk on ERA should have an expiry date. Its more about fanning out pesky posters rather than more eloquent column style debate about the site.
Im sure you understand that re-running the same message in a different package is eventually going to be stale. ''ERA staff gives 2 week ban for post saying ''Hello'', but Excelsiorlef can claim she is fembot KKK and proud of it and gets away with it!'' - I mean, i get why its post worthy, but in a sea of NPC Fish, isn't it better to look for the NPC Whales? You know, those threads that really get the juices flowing, sort to speak.*
*This is terrible imagery but i hope it comes across as intended.
Hey everyone, ResetEra member here. I just created a NeoGAF account, and to be honest, I don't really see myself switching my main forum (in fact I don't even know how often I'll post here). So, I'll give some thoughts on the site:
Yes, ResetEra is far from perfect. I have many issues with it myself (particularly the lack of transparency and too much ambiguity for my liking) and yes, many people can be overbearing with their liberalness
However, in terms of deciding a forum, I don't look for the perfect place. I look for the best in terms of activity (ResetERA is very active) and not allowing aspects that I want to deal with. So, while ResetERA may be a bit ban happy at times, I'd rather it be that way than not banning posts that support sexism, racism, transphobia, etc.
As for NeoGAF, I don't talk to you guys here much so I can't speak for how you are in that regard, but lurking this thread I have seen some posts that I find troublesome, and I think they highlight very well why many ERA members don't come here
Many ERA members have extreme depression and social anxiety, myself included. So, many use ERA as an outlet, which while potentially problematic as it could exacerbate depression, is also a place where many want to just be able to hang out without having to deal with all of the troubles and hardships of life.
This is essentially a futile endeavour, this thread, since everybody's mind is already set. The NeoGAF users have made up their mind on the ResetERA users, and vice versa. I know from my time dealing with people on VGChartz (which I ended up leaving for ERA) that most conversations end up with neither side changing their views. And I generally won't change mine because I tend to consider it to be correct.
Regarding the first point: I would argue that lack of transparency is one of the lesser evils the site has. Or well, The Names have. In the land of The Names, an opposing view, however nuanced, is a dangerous one in their eyes. Regardless of how correct you actually are, in the eyes of The Names you are always incorrect. This kiwipost about false equivalencies (A staple among the Book of Reasons) explains it better (found below), especially the bolded.
My point is that because of this system, you are essentially given little leeway to deviate from what The Names consider valid. Some protected users ofcourse can deviate so that there is the appearance that more broad opinions are allowed, even though Reeeeelly, that isn't the case.
I get the "false equivalency" thing now. It's not about false arguments, it's about false *conclusions*.
They take as axiomatic certain social justice principles like the progressive stack and "mimorities can't be racist". Regardless of what you try to explain, what you argue, what facts you bring, you won't change those core beliefs. It'd be like trying to argue with a devout Christian about whether God exists. You're questioning their basic axioms, so you cannot be right. To them, saying "blacks can be racist" is indiscernible from claiming up is down, hot is cold, 4+4=7, etc.
So when they accuse someone of a "false equivalency", it's not *about* the equivalency itself. You must be wrong, because your conclusion is wrong. They see no need to actually show why any comparisons are invalid. They lead to the wrong conclusion, and therefore they are wrong.
Regarding your second point, ill have to disagree here. If just activity is your main reason to pick ERA, then i feel one is essentially closing the eyes for the things lingering underneath. It isn't a bit banhappy either: The sole reason a site scraper exists documenting each and every single ban was made out of a necessity to keep track of the motivation behind said bans. Everything is a history of x/a false equivalency, as the bolded also shows, i don't feel these are the real reasons why people get banned. People get banned because The Names consider the opinions and conclusions of others as wrong when they run opposite of what they believe in.
You mention that you rather have ERA the way it is now in comparison to a site ''not banning posts that support sexism, racism, transphobia, etc.'' . If we are referring to GAF in that case (And that's an assumption on my part): Please highlight a series of posts from different threads that support this. The thing is, multiple users have signed up (or returned) calling GAF out for these reasons, but when it is asked to elaborate, we never get any details. In order to have a conversation on this, we need factual evidence.
Regarding your third point: Alright, please point out what is troublesome in your eyes. On GAF, extremes are filtered out, but opinions of either side are allowed and maintained. The staff also attempts to not inject their own personal views regarding politics into threads. See this post chain i had with a staff member for more info regarding this. This should also help answering some. There is more, but this is in a private conversation.
As for point 4: I am well aware that several ERA members have personal issues relating to depression, withdrawal, anxiety, and so on. I also understand that threads like the Mental Health thread and its Discord are an outlet to these people and i wholeheartly support that. However, i do not feel this is an excuse for the kind of rhetoric that goes around there (usually by The Names) regarding race, or pedophilia. There are takes in there that are reminiscent of OldGAF at its worst: How is it interconnectable that ERA users get offended that virtual character rights in games are not a thing, yet on the other end, the site is okay with wanting to see a 15 year old naked kid in a uncensored movie? Things do not add up. Claiming sexual harrassment in Valkirya Chronicles even tho the girl who is harassed actually holds her own more than most of the lads in the game... It just does not stick favourably for the negative image that the site has.
Your last point: Perhaps it is futile, but as you can see, i am willing to listen and to reason back with you on your points raised. I do not think every user on ERA is terrible or supporting the cause set forth by The Names. Naively, i'd wish both places would offer dialogue, like North and South Korea (As we are to each and one another).
Well, I can't PM at the moment so I guess I'll just say upfront why I created an account here. To be honest, for most of the people who post in here, I don't take much stock in what they say. However, I am wondering what happened with Blam
because she was a part of ERA's creation before what I assume was a falling out, and being the ever-curious fellow that I am, I really wonder what happened behind the scenes (if that is allowed to be stated of course).
New users generally can't post PM's yet. If this persists since it isn't an achievement which you can find here, message a staff member as to why.
Regarding the bolded however: I think this is a rather generalizing assumption to make and to other users, it may suggest that your intents aren't here on good terms. There will ofcourse always be users you tend to engage with less than others, but publically airing the bolded when you just arrived can set a precedent, certainly among users who don't write book length commentary. Just a friendly advice, you don't have to do anything with it, ofcourse.
Ill just cut you off right there Reading this story is very reminiscent of my Discord experiences. I do recollect that The Names tend to make stuff up to justify a harsh penalty such as the one you got. This was not only applicable to just The Names but it also was apparent among Little Helpers. In an ironic twist of fate, atleast one of them is now a moderator aswell and he has worked actively with Nicole in the past.
No matter how we slice the pineapple pizza, to cite a legacy ERA meme, it seems that the name of Nicole always pops up, and far less the actual owner (Cerium) is actually mentioned. This suggests that the real policy and behind the scenes activities is run by Nicole and not Cerium. Ofcourse, Nicole also has her team of loyals and together they form The Names. Having read most stories from banned members from sites all over the net, at the very least we have to conclude that Nicole's activity is detrimental to the lifespan of any ERA member. The ring of influence is the most widespread with her. The way grudges are held, how out of nowhere you can get axed for stuff supposely said or done months ago... it reeks. TLDR: Something is very very fishy with her.
If i have to assume, an ERA poster that went through the system and as such got into a dark place? I should not be making an assumption in public like this, so if you want me to PM you, i will. I am sorry either way for the less, Acerac.
OMG i just discovered how to get the centered view back in GAF. Praise the Helix!
No matter how we slice the pineapple pizza, to cite a legacy ERA meme, it seems that the name of Nicole always pops up, and far less the actual owner (Cerium) is actually mentioned. This suggests that the real policy and behind the scenes activities is run by Nicole and not Cerium. Ofcourse, Nicole also has her team of loyals and together they form The Names. Having read most stories from banned members from sites all over the net, at the very least we have to conclude that Nicole's activity is detrimental to the lifespan of any ERA member. The ring of influence is the most widespread with her. The way grudges are held, how out of nowhere you can get axed for stuff supposely said or done months ago... it reeks. TLDR: Something is very very fishy with her.
I mean I didn't like her right from the beginning, and yeah even with talking to Cerium he seemed content with what I was saying but he had mentioned Nicole maybe once during these "talks" and that it seemed like her voice weighed much higher then most people think.
I mean ffs she appointed her own GF as a admin. I'm sorry but like really? How the fuck does that not scream bias? I understand this is someone you care about and love, but abuse of power shouldn't trail like that. Her vote also final votes for logos. Discord for ERA had her only making annoucements about seemingly random shit, and instead of her announcing the team for ERA she announces her GF as admin and the words she used sounded so much like she had pushed an agenda even the Russians would be disgraced.
I mean I didn't like her right from the beginning, and yeah even with talking to Cerium he seemed content with what I was saying but he had mentioned Nicole maybe once during these "talks" and that it seemed like her voice weighed much higher then most people think.
I mean ffs she appointed her own GF as a admin. I'm sorry but like really? How the fuck does that not scream bias? I understand this is someone you care about and love, but abuse of power shouldn't trail like that. Her vote also final votes for logos. Discord for ERA had her only making annoucements about seemingly random shit, and instead of her announcing the team for ERA she announces her GF as admin and the words she used sounded so much like she had pushed an agenda even the Russians would be disgraced.
All of this does not really surprise me to be honest. It seems that The Names are intent on being a best of mix of what made OldGAF, with its double tongue, so... claustrophobic for most users.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nicole treats ERA with her heart on her sleeve and that she ain't faking her character. If that's the case, then i am legit at odds for most users on ERA there.
Sting was in quotes for a reason. I'm not a native English speaker so sometimes I have to do that to try to convey what I'm thinking.
I would even go so far to say that if there were enough resources there should be cops chilling by bars every night to stop drunk drivers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that and it is not comparable to citizens doing whatever for the simple fact that they are cops and they should be stopping drunk drivers anyway.
I don't even get why you are comparing this situation to cops catching drunk drivers by bars. It's not as if the cops should always wait until a drunk person is already driving somewhere in the streets. No, cops certainly should stop a drunk person from even starting the car. Like, what, is your argument really that because someone might think a person reporting streamers for tax evasion could be harassment they should also think cops doing their job in preventing drunks from driving is harassment too? Please, explain me how that logic goes because I've seen you bring that up several times here and have thought it hasn't made any sense since the beginning and you haven't explained your point in any way yet. Instead your analogy has been shown to be faulty at least twice already and for dionysus' example you just made another odd analogue that made even less sense (the "noisy bar" analogue).
I get not liking the situation? But since these citizens are using legal channels to carry this stuff out I really don't think it matters why they are doing it. Sorta feels like a don't hate the player hate the game sorta thing, especially how the system is explicitly set up to pay those who legitimately report those who are evading taxes.
It might not matter why they do that and it might even be good that tax evaders get caught and it might even be good that there are less sex workers, but acting as if they are doing it for a noble cause instead of out of spite is just not honest. While getting criminals get caught for their crimes is good I still have more respect for those people who go against what they are seeing as a crime more consistently and not so selectively as they are doing here. If they were doing this because they want tax avoiders to get caught and not because they want only certain type of tax evaders to get caught they would call out all kinds of streamers out there who get money from what they do. Now they are just being selective about it just because they hold a grudge.
fwiw if they didn't have knowledge that these people skimped out on their taxes there wouldn't be such an outcry. The fact that this is blowing up so much kinda indicates that the audits had merit. It's kinda crazy how people refuse to admit this
Even people who are not speeding become more alert and lower their speed when they know there are lots of cops looking for speeders or when they are driving past the automatic police cameras.
Well from what i understood, the staff in general did delete the personal information from the forum. But even so they should have removed the mod who actually helped in the doxxing in the first place.
An ex. If you need further details PM me about any specifics.
So what is your stance on cops watching outside of bars for drunks? Many sober people get pulled over because of circumstantial evidence and I just do not see nearly the outcry there.
Is this harassment of bar patrons? What if it's a gay bar? I'm not being sarcastic I legitimately am curious about your stances on these subjects and whether or not you have spoken out against them.
Hey everyone, ResetEra member here. I just created a NeoGAF account, and to be honest, I don't really see myself switching my main forum (in fact I don't even know how often I'll post here). So, I'll give some thoughts on the site:
Yes, ResetEra is far from perfect. I have many issues with it myself (particularly the lack of transparency and too much ambiguity for my liking) and yes, many people can be overbearing with their liberalness
However, in terms of deciding a forum, I don't look for the perfect place. I look for the best in terms of activity (ResetERA is very active) and not allowing aspects that I want to deal with. So, while ResetERA may be a bit ban happy at times, I'd rather it be that way than not banning posts that support sexism, racism, transphobia, etc.
As for NeoGAF, I don't talk to you guys here much so I can't speak for how you are in that regard, but lurking this thread I have seen some posts that I find troublesome, and I think they highlight very well why many ERA members don't come here
Many ERA members have extreme depression and social anxiety, myself included. So, many use ERA as an outlet, which while potentially problematic as it could exacerbate depression, is also a place where many want to just be able to hang out without having to deal with all of the troubles and hardships of life.
This is essentially a futile endeavour, this thread, since everybody's mind is already set. The NeoGAF users have made up their mind on the ResetERA users, and vice versa. I know from my time dealing with people on VGChartz (which I ended up leaving for ERA) that most conversations end up with neither side changing their views. And I generally won't change mine because I tend to consider it to be correct.
Thank you for post and you dont come across as the usual era idiot but I have to ask
What area specifically on this site has supported transphobia/sexism ect??....that word gets thrown around like a baseball on era but here the mods have been pretty open in their policies and those things are not tolerated....is it simply because some people have a view from both sides and discuss it that you label it as that??
The concept of equality goes hand in hand with tolerance and if I use the dictionary definition (sorry if I'm mr dictionary but era users seem to throw out words and not know the meaning)
noun
the ability or willingness to tolerate the existence of opinions or behaviour that one dislikes or disagrees with.
Era is definitely not like this and goes out of the way to punish/ban/silence people who dont follow the line. How can you support a site which was created to be an open and transparent place but instead is the dictionary definition of fascism....who are the real nazis here??
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocraticgovernment headed by a dictatorialleader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial controlearly instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge
Sting was in quotes for a reason. I'm not a native English speaker so sometimes I have to do that to try to convey what I'm thinking.
I would even go so far to say that if there were enough resources there should be cops chilling by bars every night to stop drunk drivers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that and it is not comparable to citizens doing whatever for the simple fact that they are cops and they should be stopping drunk drivers anyway.
I don't even get why you are comparing this situation to cops catching drunk drivers by bars. It's not as if the cops should always wait until a drunk person is already driving somewhere in the streets. No, cops certainly should stop a drunk person from even starting the car. Like, what, is your argument really that because someone might think a person reporting streamers for tax evasion could be harassment they should also think cops doing their job in preventing drunks from driving is harassment too? Please, explain me how that logic goes because I've seen you bring that up several times here and have thought it hasn't made any sense since the beginning and you haven't explained your point in any way yet. Instead your analogy has been shown to be faulty at least twice already and for dionysus' example you just made another odd analogue that made even less sense (the "noisy bar" analogue).
I figured they were analogous because in both situations the law is being used in a legal way that many find annoying since there is no proof of wrongdoing, but since those who drink at bars or cam for cash tend to break the law individuals are given the ability to stop this from occurring. If there wasn't a legal channel that literally rewarded people for turning in those who weren't paying their taxes I might be more sympathetic, but it seems that this the system is being used for it's intended purpose. I won't disagree that this feels like a rather petty thing to do but it seems more like a thing we should fix in the system than something we should be upset at individuals for using.
I was just wondering where your opinions lay as I found many things that people said peculiar and somewhat contradictory. I keep bringing up these analogies because people tend to avoid answering them and I'm just trying to understand thought processes. Inconsistencies bother me and the way people have acted towards this and other subjects seems shockingly inconsistent.
If i have to assume, an ERA poster that went through the system and as such got into a dark place? I should not be making an assumption in public like this, so if you want me to PM you, i will. I am sorry either way for the less, Acerac.
So what is your stance on cops watching outside of bars for drunks? Many sober people get pulled over because of circumstantial evidence and I just do not see nearly the outcry there.
Is this harassment of bar patrons? What if it's a gay bar? I'm not being sarcastic I legitimately am curious about your stances on these subjects and whether or not you have spoken out against them.
If the police does this on its own volition, it is fine, it is not harassment. But if I go there and call police on people leaving the bar without any evidence whatsoever that they are drunk (so no indication either, other than leaving the bar), it is. Whether it is a gay bar is irrelevant. it is a very significant difference if law enforcers do routine checks in contexts where breaking the law is a common occurence or if some random guy calls authorities on someone without any evidence.
I won't disagree that this feels like a rather petty thing to do but it seems more like a thing we should fix in the system than something we should be upset at individuals for using.
Hmm... Maybe the good old whynotboth.gif could be used in this case. I guess people can both do the right thing and be assholes about it at the same time
If the police does this on its own volition, it is fine, it is not harassment. But if I go there and call police on people leaving the bar without any evidence whatsoever that they are drunk (so no indication either, other than leaving the bar), it is. Whether it is a gay bar is irrelevant. it is a very significant difference if law enforcers do routine checks in contexts where breaking the law is a common occurence or if some random guy calls authorities on someone without any evidence.
Fair enough. Now would this still be true if this was a neighborhood watch community that paid citizens for reporting crimes? The fact that the IRS has a system to pay citizens who report these oversights makes it difficult for me to center the blame on said citizens, you know?
Seems odd to hate the tax collectors instead of the taxes.
Hmm... Maybe the good old whynotboth.gif could be used in this case. I guess people can both do the right thing and be assholes about it at the same time
Everyone hates the guy collecting taxes, but if the government is paying to get the job done then as long as people need money there will be citizens happy to volunteer their time. It's pretty terrible but that's capitalism for ya?
Fair enough. Now would this still be true if this was a neighborhood watch community that paid citizens for reporting crimes? The fact that the IRS has a system to pay citizens who report these oversights makes it difficult for me to center the blame on said citizens, you know?
Seems odd to hate the tax collectors instead of the taxes.
Yes, it would be a difference. Reporting crimes means reporting that you know or at the very least have very, very good reason to think someone has commited a crime. That a person uses Paypal and shows their breasts online or leaves a bar is not sufficient for that. I repeat, I do not hate tax collectors or taxes. Tax collectors and taxes are fine. Reporting people for crimes you have no idea they have commited is not. You must be able to understand the difference somehow?
Reset is losing their minds in the Tomi Lahren thread. Trigger warning, they use gendered insults because hypocritical SJW's hate women who oppose open borders.
Notice how Feminism drops dead silent for Conservative females? Liberal SJW's have no problem abusing women if they somehow speak out of line.
They're hell bent on flooding these countries with illegals and no one is calling them out for it.
I think saying the forum "destroy lives" is kinda a hyperbole.
At the end of the day they are just a forum, but sometimes your posts sound like you are on a crusade against the evil ERA that is destroying society as whole.
Era is just a microcosm of PC culture. Unfortunately the whole Woke ideology is not only flawed, but it’s set to create a generation of ill equipped people, unable to deal with the challenges of life. You don’t have to look far for evidence of this. Common sense says growth is achieved through adversity and challenging oneself. Being perpetually in bubble wrap teaches nothing.
After a set of troubling events that demonstrate the dangers of this cultish closed minded ideology, some universities are moving towards policies to combat this specifically. University of Chicago has abolished safe spaces and trigger warnings all together.
This Woke garbage cant come to an end soon enough, for the sakes of humanity.
Reset is losing their minds in the Tomi Lahren thread. Trigger warning, they use gendered insults because hypocritical SJW's hate women who oppose open borders.
Notice how Feminism drops dead silent for Conservative females? Liberal SJW's have no problem abusing women if they somehow speak out of line.
They're hell bent on flooding these countries with illegals and no one is calling them out for it.
It’s all about the opression hierachy. This is why Islam which prosecutes women is ok with SJW’s. Because Islamaphobia is higher up the chain than feminism. Yes, it’s an oxymoron so to speak, but there is a structure to it. A baffling structure full of contradictions. White men are on the bottom of this construct hence they are considered garbage, and must make way for those above them.
If the police does this on its own volition, it is fine, it is not harassment. But if I go there and call police on people leaving the bar without any evidence whatsoever that they are drunk (so no indication either, other than leaving the bar), it is. Whether it is a gay bar is irrelevant. it is a very significant difference if law enforcers do routine checks in contexts where breaking the law is a common occurence or if some random guy calls authorities on someone without any evidence.
That is not harassment. Calling the police on someone doesn’t automatically lead to punitive action. The police have the agency to investigate and make a decision.
Yes, it would be a difference. Reporting crimes means reporting that you know or at the very least have very, very good reason to think someone has commited a crime. That a person uses Paypal and shows their breasts online or leaves a bar is not sufficient for that. I repeat, I do not hate tax collectors or taxes. Tax collectors and taxes are fine. Reporting people for crimes you have no idea they have commited is not. You must be able to understand the difference somehow?
Era is just a microcosm of PC culture. Unfortunately the whole Woke ideology is not only flawed, but it’s set to create a generation of ill equipped people, unable to deal with the challenges of life. You don’t have to look far for evidence of this. Common sense says growth is achieved through adversity and challenging oneself. Being perpetually in bubble wrap teaches nothing.
After a set of troubling events that demonstrate the dangers of this cultish closed minded ideology, some universities are moving towards policies to combat this specifically. University of Chicago has abolished safe spaces and trigger warnings all together.
This Woke garbage cant come to an end soon enough, for the sakes of humanity.
Yes, it would be a difference. Reporting crimes means reporting that you know or at the very least have very, very good reason to think someone has commited a crime. That a person uses Paypal and shows their breasts online or leaves a bar is not sufficient for that. I repeat, I do not hate tax collectors or taxes. Tax collectors and taxes are fine. Reporting people for crimes you have no idea they have commited is not. You must be able to understand the difference somehow?
I guess our disagreement lies in how severe a punishment we find audits to be and our viewpoints as to why a system for reporting people who were suspected of tax evasion would be paying those who made the reports in the first place.
Thanks for the back and forth. Legitimately just wanted an understanding and I know my questions can be prying so thank you for your patience.
It's well covered, but seldom discussed because it's controversial and therefore not out in the open in an SJW climate. Ironically it's self confirming..
“Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called trigger warnings, we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual ‘safe spaces’ where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own,” John Ellison, dean of students, wrote to members of the class of 2020, who will arrive next month.
Yeah it's understandable if you don't continue to use GAF, if it's just this thread I'd say ignore this one in particular, but if it's other stuff as well if anything maybe I'll be on ERA again one day. lol
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tbh I didn't think anyone actually cared about my side of the whole situation tbh. Thanks for at least coming over on here to ask about it.
I’ve never had any kind of conversation with you yet, but I’ve always liked reading about your times there and that you seem better off without that toxic death trap of a site. So I guess I’m saying I hope you never end up back there again. You’re better off without that place.
It's well covered, but seldom discussed because it's controversial and therefore not out in the open in an SJW climate. Ironically it's self confirming..
“Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called trigger warnings, we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual ‘safe spaces’ where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own,” John Ellison, dean of students, wrote to members of the class of 2020, who will arrive next month.
Can I share a interesting article about videogames in Era? Because this thread is not only for negativa stuff, right? I didn't know Sega had some Zelda-looking games, but they don't look bad, no. I want play that Wonder Boy game now.
Can I share a interesting article about videogames in Era? Because this thread is not only for negativa stuff, right? I didn't know Sega had some Zelda-looking games, but they don't look bad, no. I want play that Wonder Boy game now.
I’ve never had any kind of conversation with you yet, but I’ve always liked reading about your times there and that you seem better off without that toxic death trap of a site. So I guess I’m saying I hope you never end up back there again. You’re better off without that place.
Honestly I have to say even that couple week span was dreadful, and I'm sorta happy I can't go back, and thanks glad to know someone is enjoying some of the posts I make.
Here’s the perversity off it all, and I apologise for this distasteful proposition...
If you were to ask a hardened SJW - if they had the power to replace a Black man on death row with a white baby boy, would they? I think you know the answer.
Why is that? The Black man irrespective of his crime is not responsible as an individual. He belongs to an identity group that is protected in the hierachy. The white baby belongs to a group that is inherently the root of all evil and is instantly disposable in comparison according to the doctorine.
What a shit example, but let’s not mince words when it comes to this dangerous side of identity politics.
A person belonging to a group can never make a case to the upper echelons of identities. For example, a black woman does not count in comparison to a black transgendered person.
A white man trying to talk sense to an SJW is about as effective as pissing in the wind, they are dismissed even before there is a conversation.
I’m happy to be disputed on the above, more so would love to be.
. everyones entitled to their own opinion.
