Were you expecting them to go after Nvidia's "Titan" (2080 Ti)?VII not VIII.
Worse price to performance than 2080.
2017 performance(1080 Ti) at the 2017 price while using more power.
Looks like we're back at "wait for Navi".
typo in the title...should be VII
Thanks. I noticed it just after posting the thread. There's also a typo in the word Radeon. I've asked the staff if they can fix the title.VII not VIII.
Yes ? It's 7nm processor. It should be as powerful . The price for the card is premium as wellWere you expecting them to go after Nvidia's "Titan" (2080 Ti)?
Yeah, it's priced exactly the same as Nvidia's highest level what I would call consumer card and performs the same if not better. The Titan level line is a science experiment for people with too much money so I think they did just fine.Yes ? It's 7nm processor. It should be as powerful . The price for the card is premium as well
Still, thats the targeted price. Prices will drop as AMD is more about price-perf. 7nm also means OCing this thing is a viable option. 16 GB is a heritage to what this GPU is based from, the professional grade Radeon Instinct.VII not VIII.
2017 performance(1080 Ti) at the 2017 price while using more power. Those who picked up 1080 Ti's last year for $600 got a steal(compared to this).
Looks like we're back at "wait for Navi".
Relatively, yes. It is set to target RTX 2080 (Not Ti) Which feels similar to their previous outing which targeted GTX 1080 non-Ti.Is this good?
I think k was semi joking. The card is almost half the price of a 2080ti . And cheaper than the 2080 if I am not mistaken they are goodYeah, it's priced exactly the same as Nvidia's highest level what I would call consumer card and performs the same if not better. The Titan level line is a science experiment for people with too much money so I think they did just fine.
Oh boy nicer puddles at 1/4th the resolution and more expensive gg AMDDOA. It's only 100$ less than a 2080 and without any of it's RTX features. NVidia would be smart if they either drop 2080 price's by just 50$ and instantly kill VII or if they release those rumored GTX version which should be in the same ballpark when it comes to pricing but way better perf/$ ratio. Cmon AMD.. you had a chance here.... we really hoped you could do it THIS time..
Were you expecting them to go after Nvidia's "Titan" (2080 Ti)?
Oh boy nicer puddles at 1/4th the resolution and more expensive gg AMD
this is not a bad added value since i would keep dmc5+re2 and most likely [allegedly] resell division 2 day one to get back 50$
''Ask me about AMD''If that is AMD 7nm high end performance I am now very concerned about Navi.
Now you're getting me worried..Well, I'll stick to my AUROS 1080Ti thank you very much. And now that we know the price for Radeon VII, I highly doubt that 9900K analogue from AMD will have very attractive and competitive price.
Funny, this is exactly how I feel about the 2080.VII not VIII.
2017 performance(1080 Ti) at the 2017 price while using more power. Those who picked up 1080 Ti's last year for $600 got a steal(compared to this).
7nm also means OCing this thing is a viable option.
No I would never pay this much for ANY graphics card. I consider pc gamers half whales tbh. There is a good chance ps5 will be AS powerful, and its a complete machine for less money.So what you try to say is, it is a total steal at only 100$ less and a way higher power usage.. wow
Funny, this is exactly how I feel about the 2080.
No I would never pay this much for ANY graphics card. I consider pc gamers half whales tbh. There is a good chance ps5 will be AS powerful, and its a complete machine for less money.
But it is a noticeably better deal than nvidia, so I don't see why you'd choose nvidia unless you're a corporate slave.
Just $100? So yeah, whale or fanboy you tell me lol.How is just 100$ but way more power consumption a "noticeably better deal"?
And if PS5 releases mid or late into next year and only delivers 13 TFlops, SonyGAF will literally melt as nearly all of them expect at least 15 TFlops
VII not VIII.
2017 performance(1080 Ti) at the 2017 price while using more power. Those who picked up 1080 Ti's last year for $600 got a steal(compared to this). Doubly so if they have adaptive-sync monitors.
Looks like we're back at "wait for Navi".
Just $100? So yeah, whale or fanboy you tell me lol.
13 TF for the ps5 will be great! That's over double the X1X and look at what that thing can do with its awful cpu and slow hard drive. Gpu is the LAST thing consoles need to address.
How is just 100$ but way more power consumption a "noticeably better deal"?
And if PS5 releases mid or late into next year and only delivers 13 TFlops, SonyGAF will literally melt as nearly all of them expect at least 15 TFlops
It the benchmarks shown it beats the RTX2080... I would wait a bit longer for more data on it to be honest, but yeah Navi (aka the arch they are co-finances by possibly both AMD and Sony and getting customised by them too) should be where the big change happens.
Just $100? So yeah, whale or fanboy you tell me lol.
13 TF for the ps5 will be great! That's over double the X1X and look at what that thing can do with its awful cpu and slow hard drive. Gpu is the LAST thing consoles need to address.
Hooo wee that's nice. I'd say overpriced but the 2080ti is almost double this with less memory.
You'd expect a bigger lead on 2080 I guess but still not bad.
Wait the 2080 is still more than this? Than how can this card be anything but a win?
I might agree with you once the 2nd generation Ray Tracing hardware comes out. Too early for me to put real stock in that and this conversation has been well tread before nowI put some value on ray-tracing and DLSS so I can't say I feel the same...
And if it's like AMD previous high end cards there is no overclocking headroom giving Nvidia cards a bit more value in that way as well..
Reminds me more of their workstation GPUs, tbh despite the gaming tag. Worth keeping an eye on as details evolve - but a lot is going to depend on what your software of choice supports and works best with. i.e. There isn't always a clear winner. Gamersnexus ran some benches not long ago that might be a helpful starting point.im currently trying to build my first PC/workstation, not specifically for high end gaming, but for doing art, 3d animation, video editing. should i keep this gpu in mind, or its not that big of an upgrade over competitors/last years models
I don't believe in probablies and past experiences are not always a outcome for the future.Could be but it's probably not, look at RX Vega 64, RX 590, RX 580, Fury X, Radeon 290X. All pushed to their limit with no headroom, this is probably the same especially since they posted the slide of 25% more performance at the same power.
8GB is starting to show signs of being a bottleneck. It was the one area where it gave the 11GB 1080TI an advantage over the 8GB 2080 in some benchmarks. So 16GB will be here sooner than you think, especially for those who love gaming in 4K.16 gigs of memory? Seems like overkill for games.
I mean yeah, prices across the board have gotten out of control and the 1080ti is still great. But nvidia is looking even worse than AMD right now in prices.Because 1080 Ti launched in 2017(2 years ago) at the same price with the same performance.
For 2080 and VII it comes down to what you value more. DLSS and ray-tracing or 16 GB frame buffer...
Just $100? So yeah, whale or fanboy you tell me lol.
13 TF for the ps5 will be great! That's over double the X1X and look at what that thing can do with its awful cpu and slow hard drive. Gpu is the LAST thing consoles need to address.
You mean AMD just announced PS5
I don't know if it will be 13 but there's a chance. You would think that they at least want twice x1x performance to hit the same graphics at 60fps.If it's true what you said(13 tf) that's good enough I think
That's double the power of Xbox one X and the x are already more than capable to deliver 4K at many occasions
We'll see. You're probably underestimating how much as an individual enthusiast consumer, that you're overpaying for PC parts.PS5 Pro maybe. No way PS5 will have 13 Tflops if AMD's high end 2019 GPU is only 13 Tflops on 7nm. I'm kind of expecting 10 TF for PS5 if we're lucky and I don't even think we'll get that at this point.
So, 9900К cost around 45К RUB here and I excpect Ryzen equivalent to cost between 38 to 40К (maybe slightly more). Now, even though 5-7К less (if well get extremely lucky) is kind of good and cheaper than 9900К, even at that price I just don't see myself buying ~40К CPU, I just freakin' can't. Furtermore, non X version of the same CPU for ~33-35К for example is also out of question cuz that means it is better to buy 8700K which'll be more that enough for gaming for at least 5 or even more years. Ugh, I know that it's kinda unrealistic to expect much more competative prices from AMD.... but damn, fuck no for 40K CPU.Now you're getting me worried..
Ha-ha, yeah, right, not a chance))))))this is not a bad added value since i would keep dmc5+re2 and most likely [allegedly] resell division 2 day one to get back 50$
8GB is starting to show signs of being a bottleneck. It was the one area where it gave the 11GB 1080TI an advantage over the 8GB 2080 in some benchmarks. So 16GB will be here sooner than you think, especially for those who love gaming in 4K.
Personally I wish nvidia had kept the 2070 at 8GB, made the 2080 12GB and brought the 2080 Ti all the way to 16GB.