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Is Dwayne Johnson on steroids?
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
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I keep reading the thread title as "Don Johnson" for some reason.
HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTBEAT!
HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTBEAT!
cryptoadam
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He is on something, probably a lot better than any pleb can get. Guy is one of the if not the highest paid actor in holloywood. He probably has access to tech and drugs we don't even know exsits.
Chairman Tickles
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Well one thing for sure, he's the manliest and most Alpha 'Dwayne' in the world. Sissy name probably had a part to play in his transformation.
ConnorDuffy1977
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If you remember, the Rock was out of wrestling for a short period of time. And it was due to the fact he had surgery on pecs. He had some fatty tissue removed. I remember how we used to joke about his man-boobs because there was always just a little bit of fat that it seemed he couldn't get rid of at the gym. But then when he came back, they were gone.
https://www.cosmetictown.com/news/Dwayne_Johnson_Plastic_Surgery
Swauny Jones
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The Rock i'm sure is either still using roids, or flatout going nuts on TRT. He had to bulk up quite a bit for his role in the Hercules movie too. At the end of the day he isn't competing in a sport so it's legal I guess. His body, his funeral. It'll catch up with him sooner than later.
cryptoadam
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actually aren't steroids outright illegal? Like if I was selling steroids I could get busted?
ConnorDuffy1977
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Did you ever see The Wrestler? The guy who played the steroid dealer ended up getting busted for them in real life.
HarryKS
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Yes, yes they are. But they're one of the few drugs law enforcement doesn't really target.
Chairman Tickles
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Dwayne did have gyno, but he got it removed via surgery;
Wow. I should pay more attention to his tittays.
ph33rknot
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terry has a fu ked up chest because of steroids
Bullet Club
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Dwayne doesn't use steroids any more...
...or any less.
...or any less.
betrayal
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It's also how genetics respond to the drugs and the timing. Genetics are most important, but bodys react differently to steroids. Dwayne Johnsons stacks aren't nearly as complicated and "diverse" compared to let's say Mr. Olympia contestants and he's also not nearly as big as them.
Almost 90% of the male actors in movies are using steroids every now and then, when they need to be lean, get muscles or even both at the same time. You don't have to look like Dwayne Johnsons to be on steroids. 99% of the people look smaller than him and are using steroids. There is a huge knowledge gap in the general public about steroids, what they're doing and how they work.
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K1Expwy
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I've been told before that steroids can be used for different goals. What I mean is other actors would probably like to put the training work toward having the opportunities and salary that Johnson gets, because he among other reasons is "literally the biggest star in Hollywood," to quote an entertainment exec that I can't remember.
pel1300
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Honestly, I wish steroids were less stigmatized for celebs playing action roles so they wouldn't have to keep lying to us all the time.
Pro-athletes are on them and they are experts at hiding or masking them in their system when being drug tested by athletic commissions. Now if pro-athletes are willing to risk getting suspended for years by doing this, think about actors who don't have to worry about this.
Now imagine there is a lot of money to be made and your job is to look like a superman....and there is no athletic commission trying to test you for steroids in your system. This just gives you more incentive to do what it takes to look as fit for the role as you can. Especially when you can do it under an expensive doctor who specializes in hormone replacement therapy and knows exactly how to get you off the steroids using a PTC (post cycle therapy).
No way The Rock is natty. And his claim that he only tried them at age 18 makes no sense.
The Rock, Stallone, Mel Gibson, Hugh Jackman, Sean Penn, they are all on something. the most common is testosterone and sometimes in conjunction with low dose HGH/growth hormone.
You don't go from relatively normal in your 30s to huge and yolked in your middle age like Mel Gibson and Sean Penn. Sean Penn and Mel Gibson in their younger years were nowhere near as big and ripped as they are now. I mean just look at Mel these days and compare it to him in Braveheart when he was still in his 30s. He looked what what lean and muscular back then, but nothing compared to today.
Hugh Jackman was 31 when he first played Wolverine, and he looked pretty natural in X-Men 1. Then in X-Men 2 and 3 he is significantly more muscular. Then in 2009 up until now he is always super ripped and huge compared to at age 31. And he is about 50 now.
Then there are the younger ones like the guys who playing superheroes. They no doubt have a doctor specialized in HRT helping them out with gear to bulk up for months and then cycle off safely to get their testosterone levels back to normal (post cycle therapy or PCT).
Christian Bale is another good example.
He was filming both films back to back. No way he could have bulked up that quickly. In fact, the time frame was so short that he didn't have enough time to cut down to look more cut.
Then there is Michael B Jordan. His case is so obvious. He wanted to resemble Apollo Creed as much as possible. Black Panther was filmed right before Creed II. So it's evident that in Black Panther he was already bulked up, then by Creed II he finished his cutting phase.
Pro-athletes are on them and they are experts at hiding or masking them in their system when being drug tested by athletic commissions. Now if pro-athletes are willing to risk getting suspended for years by doing this, think about actors who don't have to worry about this.
Now imagine there is a lot of money to be made and your job is to look like a superman....and there is no athletic commission trying to test you for steroids in your system. This just gives you more incentive to do what it takes to look as fit for the role as you can. Especially when you can do it under an expensive doctor who specializes in hormone replacement therapy and knows exactly how to get you off the steroids using a PTC (post cycle therapy).
No way The Rock is natty. And his claim that he only tried them at age 18 makes no sense.
The Rock, Stallone, Mel Gibson, Hugh Jackman, Sean Penn, they are all on something. the most common is testosterone and sometimes in conjunction with low dose HGH/growth hormone.
You don't go from relatively normal in your 30s to huge and yolked in your middle age like Mel Gibson and Sean Penn. Sean Penn and Mel Gibson in their younger years were nowhere near as big and ripped as they are now. I mean just look at Mel these days and compare it to him in Braveheart when he was still in his 30s. He looked what what lean and muscular back then, but nothing compared to today.
Hugh Jackman was 31 when he first played Wolverine, and he looked pretty natural in X-Men 1. Then in X-Men 2 and 3 he is significantly more muscular. Then in 2009 up until now he is always super ripped and huge compared to at age 31. And he is about 50 now.
Then there are the younger ones like the guys who playing superheroes. They no doubt have a doctor specialized in HRT helping them out with gear to bulk up for months and then cycle off safely to get their testosterone levels back to normal (post cycle therapy or PCT).
Christian Bale is another good example.
He was filming both films back to back. No way he could have bulked up that quickly. In fact, the time frame was so short that he didn't have enough time to cut down to look more cut.
Then there is Michael B Jordan. His case is so obvious. He wanted to resemble Apollo Creed as much as possible. Black Panther was filmed right before Creed II. So it's evident that in Black Panther he was already bulked up, then by Creed II he finished his cutting phase.
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JareBear: Remastered
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He’s on Everything.
“Everyone’s on steroids.” The great Nate Diaz
“Everyone’s on steroids.” The great Nate Diaz
HarryKS
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Genetics being mostly muscle insertion and shape. The receptors do factor in but what most people don't get is that beyond mass, shape is what really matters.
Dirk Benedict
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This made me laugh more than it should have. I should replay The Secret of Evermore. I enjoyed it a bit more than Secret of Mana.
God Enel
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Dude when I saw the pic for the first time I was laughing so hard you cannot imagine. So I know exactly what you mean.
@SoE I loved both for different reasons and the older I become the more I appreciate the tone of secret of evermore.
The thing is SoM has coop and as kid I loved to play it with a friend. And I still enjoy the coop mode.
Dirk Benedict
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Dude when I saw the pic for the first time I was laughing so hard you cannot imagine. So I know exactly what you mean.
@SoE I loved both for different reasons and the older I become the more I appreciate the tone of secret of evermore.
The thing is SoM has coop and as kid I loved to play it with a friend. And I still enjoy the coop mode.
I enjoyed the graphics, the dry humor and music in SoE more. Jeremy Soule did amazing things with the SNES sound chip.
mckmas8808
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I was going to say. ALWAYS look at the delts. But I doubt he's on the roids all the time. Probably cycles on when he has a big movie to release.
Elcid
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Great writeup. It's becoming more and more common for older men to get completely on TRT and that's likely what this is. I once saw a blog from a roider that explained Chris H.'s insane size in the first Thor (notice he's much smaller in every Thor appearance there after) and it explained the only way such growth was possible between movies was prohormones + steroids which is not sustainable at all. The Rock is that big so it's possible he's doing TRT with some other crazy supplements.
Chairman Tickles
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So many normies don't understand that what top bodybuilders and strongmen achieve is a perfect storm of genetics, diet, working out and courtesy of a complex hormonal/steroid cocktail. But it is 90% genetics. The average man or woman could never resemble them or shift the same forces, no matter how much gear they took. You get gym rats coming in every day, clearly on roids, with some disproportional muscle groups, who look completely underwhelming next to a natty proportioned individual. How your muscles are set up and where they connect is king when it comes to form and function, and that comes from genetics.
I do get worried sometimes, people like Larry Wheels (or larry wheelchair if he keeps going) are pushing their form to the genetic limit. He's shifting the same weights and experiencing the same strains on his frame as Thor, a much larger man.
An actual natty that has taken his genetics to peak is Juji, he can only match ~70% of the strength of these roided up strongmen.
I do get worried sometimes, people like Larry Wheels (or larry wheelchair if he keeps going) are pushing their form to the genetic limit. He's shifting the same weights and experiencing the same strains on his frame as Thor, a much larger man.
An actual natty that has taken his genetics to peak is Juji, he can only match ~70% of the strength of these roided up strongmen.
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Punished Miku
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I think that Joe Rogan is a window into a new opinion that will become more common in the rest of the country in about 10-15 years.
The opinion is that as you age as a man, careful and considerate steroid and testosterone use is actually better for your health than not taking it. You stay looking late 30s-ish with a ripped physique until your mid 50s. People in the upper class and people in California are experimenting with this now and I think they all see it as completely fine as long as you aren't hiding it for competitions.
I expect this to become more mainstream as time passes. Usually the coasts are 10 years ahead of the midwest.
That's just my ignorant opinion though, as someone who has never tried any of this shit and never intends to. People are clearly using it more visibly now, and are trying to make it part of a healthier lifestyle.
The opinion is that as you age as a man, careful and considerate steroid and testosterone use is actually better for your health than not taking it. You stay looking late 30s-ish with a ripped physique until your mid 50s. People in the upper class and people in California are experimenting with this now and I think they all see it as completely fine as long as you aren't hiding it for competitions.
I expect this to become more mainstream as time passes. Usually the coasts are 10 years ahead of the midwest.
That's just my ignorant opinion though, as someone who has never tried any of this shit and never intends to. People are clearly using it more visibly now, and are trying to make it part of a healthier lifestyle.
Futaleufu
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Rogan, Dana White, Matt Serra, they all look bloated. bald, fat face with abs. They dont look healthy at all.
Punished Miku
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They look good for 50.
But I am completely unqualified to say if it's healthy. I think we'll see more people make the argument that they are healthy in the future if it's controlled use.
StreetsofBeige
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Can huge ripped beefcakes achieve it by working out like crazy and doing mass gaining protein shakes or other legal stuff you buy at GNC?
Or are just about all huge dudes on roids?
Or are just about all huge dudes on roids?
HarryKS
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If they're lean and extremely muscular, roids.
If they're chunky and muscular, less likely but there is a strong possibility, especially in the competitive world.
You can get very decent results naturally though but not like some would have you believe.
pel1300
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Rogan started to bald way before he went on TRT about 11 years ago. As for his face, he used to inject HGH daily for years which gives people that bigger head like Tito Ortiz. It's permanent when you overdo HGH. He doesn't take HGH anymore., just TRT + a load of vitaming and supplements (Creatine being one known for water retention and bloating)
Matt Serra actually looked worse shortly after retiring from fighting...he just ballooned up and was obese. Clearly he was just eating tons of pasta and pizza, and drinking too. He said the hardest thing about being in the lightweight division was not being able to eat pasta and pizza, and that he was always craving it.
Well, after a few years of retirement and feeling like a shell of his former self....he went on the TRT....and continued to eat like shit, he jokes there's no way he can eat worse and that considering how much pizza he eats, he should look worse than he does.
Dana White went bald a long, long time ago. Even before he started putting on weight. Even in his first interview as UFC president when he was much younger and thin, you could see his receding hairline.
There are many on TRT who don't get these side effects. It's really a crapshoot and depends on your genetics. If you're not genetically predisposed to balding, then TRT won't make you go bald (see Chael Sonnen and the many Hollywood actors who manage to keep a full head of hair like Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Hugh Jackman. Then others who start getting a receded hairline early on like Henry Cavill).
One thing to note: TRT can increase appetite in patients...not all of them.
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JimmyJones
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Yes, yes he is.
HarryKS
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The Hollywood peeps have access to the finest hair transplant specialists.
Von Hugh
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"An actual natty" that is nicknamed the Anabolic Athlete, and is shown in some videos donning some serious gyno. Are you kidding me.
Chairman Tickles
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I have gyno, have had it since 14 years of age. It's what prompted a full gym transformation. Bitch tits are usually natty.
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HGH testosterone but not TRT. TRT just maximizes natural hormone levels. Rock is probably triple to quadruple that.
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I’m 40 years old and do TRT only. My hormone levels are at the top range of a natural 25 yr old male. It’s made a HUGE difference in my quAlity of life. Anyone 35-40 should be doing it if you feel like you’ve lost a step. I put on 10 lbs of muscle and lost fat. In the gym I’m as strong as ever. It’s like getting your youth back.
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I’m 40 years old and do TRT only. My hormone levels are at the top range of a natural 25 yr old male. It’s made a HUGE difference in my quAlity of life. Anyone 35-40 should be doing it if you feel like you’ve lost a step. I put on 10 lbs of muscle and lost fat. In the gym I’m as strong as ever. It’s like getting your youth back.
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mckmas8808
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Is TRT the stuff that Frank Thomas is always endorsing in the gym on those commericals?
pel1300
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It's testosterone in lower dosages (100 to 250 mg per week). Athletes who juice typically take around 600 to 1,000 mg per week.
People who benefit the most from seem to be in the following categories:
-young men who naturally have lower than average testosterone levels. Often these guys lack masculine features like thick body and facial hair, muscle mass, manly voice, etc.
-people who used to abuse steroids and had to go off them for various reasons and thus their body's natural testosterone production got shut down permanently.. Many pro athletes who used to juice fall under this category. TRT does wonders for them
-people over 40 who just want more energy to improve their quality of life and get more shit done throughout the day.
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mckmas8808
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I'm in my mid 30s and I believe I have an above average testosterone level. So it'll probably be unhealthy for me to take TRT right? I'm assuming there has to be some negative side effects right?
pel1300
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There are some side effects that seem to hit some people but not others for unknown reasons.
-accelerate hair loss - only effects people who were genetically prediposed to balding in the 1st place. If everyone on both your mom and dad's side of the family have a full head of hair, you're probably safe. I'd say this affects about half the patients on TRT. Look at Vitor Belfort as an example of a guy who has abused roids since his teens then went on testosterone in his mid 30s as a guy who is totally unaffected by this.
-Weight gain - TRT seems to increase appetite. For those who exercise regularly and lift a lot this if a positive especially if they wanna bulk. In some cases, appetite doesn't increase at all.
-bloating- mostly facial boating, some get it some don't. Those who do get it normally only have bloating initially aned then it eventually subsides.
-facial redness - TRT increases red blood cell count. A way to combat this is donating blood or taking blood thinning supplements (fish oil)
-Bacne - YMMV, most don't get it.
There are others. But basically, it's a crap shoot. You might get every negative side effect because genetics, or you might luck out and only reap the benefits because genetics. Only way to know for sure is to try it. But then trying it risks shutting down your body's natural T production...but then getting off it and taking HCG (promotes natural testosterone production) could fix that, but it's not a guarantee. Worst case scenario if you will have to inject yourself with T 1x or 2x a week for the rest of your life.
I wouldn't say it'd be unhealthy for you to do TRT if you have above average levels...more just that it's not as advantageous or necessary.
mckmas8808
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Man what an awesome response. You seem pretty well versed on the topic. After reading all this, I'm not going to do it (now). I'll wait at least another 10 years. But the future of medicine and fitness sure seems to be changing fast. The future is bright!