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[General Lee]

The game might not fill the requirements of western sjw ideology of what's acceptable representation, but it's a far cry from being actually transphobic. To me it seemed like the game was very much trying to be trans positive and the whole Rin story was about acceptance of gender queerness since it does end up with Vincent getting together with her. From all that I've seen so far the devs intentions have not been transphobic, quite the opposite in fact.

I think the problem here is mostly how the sjw contingent is looking for anything to be offended over, but all they will achieve with this is Atlus not releasing further games in the West with such themes. I guess their views on how to appropriately handle this theme just doesn't jive with western sjws insane purity check list of what's acceptable. All they will achieve with this outrage is further confirmation that no one outside their crazy zone should touch transgender topics in games with a ten foot pole out of fear or being outrage machined if the ideology presented isn't 100% pure, which it'll never be since there's no consensus in these matters even within transgender people themselves. If Atlus were being transphobic, they would never have any in the game to begin with, and they're clearly not adding these characters merely as trap jokes to be laughed at.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why can't we just have a normal topic where people don't worry about what Era thinks? Fucking christ.

Leave Era alone!

 

[oagboghi2]

era is barely 5000 active users. if you do a change based on that number, you're fucking insane

Resetera has multiple active developers on it's board. We know that neogaf, and other forums have an influence in the game development scene, which is pretty small and insular.

There is a reason why game development has become a echo chamber, and websites like resetera, reddit, etc etc are partially why.

 

[DeliciousDoc]

It's not like any of the people actually buying games are offended.

You get journos who don't pay for anything, burnt out ex gamers who don't play games but talk about them and online personalities that flat out admit they don't play games while complaining about them.

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

Probably best not to put any trans characters in your game at all, unless you are specifically targeting the SJW demographic and willing to conform to all their ideals.
I've never played Catherine, but I got the impression that hot girls played a significant role in it, so Im especially surprised that transgenders would make an appearance there.

 

[Lionel Richie]

I hope this game does really well, outrage culture is fucking bullshit. I know I need to stop mentioning Resetera, but that crowd is a fucking cancer in the industry and I don't say that lightly. There's a thread over there right now called "The Phobic Crimes of Katsura Hashino". THE. PHOBIC. CRIMES. CRIMES. Hashino is one of the best creators of our generation and he deserves respect, at best you can accuse him of not sharing a singular very western morality point of view on some things, but that's it. If you have even a passing interest on video games, you need to treat that man with decency instead of being quick to act like an asshole. You're not talking about a random fucking nobody, you're quick to shield gaming journos nobody gives a shit about like they're fucking martyrs and yet you throw a leading creator under the bus for the pettiest fucking reasons. Stop pretending you like video games and get the fuck out of this culture, go danger hair somewhere else.

I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't be angry, but I am. I am disgusted. This is disgusting.

 

[InterMusketeer]

Probably best not to put any trans characters in your game at all, unless you are specifically targeting the SJW demographic and willing to conform to all their ideals.
I've never played Catherine, but I got the impression that hot girls played a significant role in it, so Im especially surprised that transgenders would make an appearance there.

Erica (the transgender character) was in the original game, so she's not a new addition. She plays a small part as the waitress of the bar you hang out at. I always thought she was a pretty cool character, and her being trans has some implications for the story. Anyway, she was never one of the 'gettable' girls, and I don't think she is in the new version either. Seems like they just made a new ending where in some kind of alternate timeline/universe Eric never becomes Erica, and obviously depicting that is transphobic.

 

[Elcid]

Fuck Resetera and all those damn psychopaths. I'll buy the premium edition.

 

[Serenade_King]

I hope this game does really well, outrage culture is fucking bullshit. I know I need to stop mentioning Resetera, but that crowd is a fucking cancer in the industry and I don't say that lightly. There's a thread over there right now called "The Phobic Crimes of Katsura Hashino". THE. PHOBIC. CRIMES. CRIMES. Hashino is one of the best creators of our generation and he deserves respect, at best you can accuse him of not sharing a singular very western morality point of view on some things, but that's it. If you have even a passing interest on video games, you need to treat that man with decency instead of being quick to act like an asshole. You're not talking about a random fucking nobody, you're quick to shield gaming journos nobody gives a shit about like they're fucking martyrs and yet you throw a leading creator under the bus for the pettiest fucking reasons. Stop pretending you like video games and get the fuck out of this culture, go danger hair somewhere else.

I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't be angry, but I am. I am disgusted. This is disgusting.

Just saw the thread and after reading the comments I immediately signed-out of my account, I'm officially done with that site. I used to think that the term "outrage culture" was an exaggeration on peoples part at the beginning but it really is the perfect words to describe that site.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Just saw the thread and after reading the comments I immediately signed-out of my account, I'm officially done with that site. I used to think that the term "outrage culture" was an exaggeration on peoples part at the beginning but it really is the perfect words to describe that site.

Good stuff man, this is really disrespectful. You know, one might disagree with how the game presents their characters and could refuse to buy the game for this reason and it's fine, everyone's entitled to their opinion. But making it a hateful crusade against such an important figure in the industry? Calling him a criminal? It's downright unacceptable.

 

[Shifty]

Business as usual then.

 

[infinitys_7th]

The good news is, so far the Ree Effect is mostly the same as the Streisand Effect.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has sold over 2 million copies.

I expect Cyberpunk 2077 to sell well regardless because it's from the studio that made The Witcher.

So going by previous "controversial" games on Ree, I expect that Catherine: Full Body will also gain a sales benefit from their manufactured controversy. If I didn't know better, I would think that Atlus came up with this controversy themselves and used Ree to promote the game because the Ree Effect increases game sales, not decreases them.

I love what is going on in the gaming industry.

"Get woke, go broke."

"Make them REEEEEEE, make money."

 

[GhostOfTsu]

The asylum is petitioning for a sitewide ban and pinning the blame on 1 guy at Atlus Japan but there isn't any proof? Why is everyone okay with blaming Hashino all of a sudden? Is it just another day, another witchhunt?

Anyway, I read the Catherine and Persona meltdowns and I just rolled my eyes. This is nothing, like middle-school level shit.

 

[Senhua]

Sweet, it's time to pick my local CFB copy then. The only Sony exclusive game I will buy & play this year. And I expect this will the last LGBTQ theme Japanese games localized overseas if they still care to make like this at all.

 

[thehillissilent]

Erica (the transgender character) was in the original game, so she's not a new addition. She plays a small part as the waitress of the bar you hang out at. I always thought she was a pretty cool character, and her being trans has some implications for the story. Anyway, she was never one of the 'gettable' girls, and I don't think she is in the new version either. Seems like they just made a new ending where in some kind of alternate timeline/universe Eric never becomes Erica, and obviously depicting that is transphobic.

The drama is so stupid. If Eric stays a gay man and never transitions, what is the problem with that? I feel insecure people put too much of their identity into these games. As far as that guy refusing to sleep with her after learning she was trans, that is his decision. That doesn't make him transphobic, he just wants to have sex with a biological female and I understand that.

 

[TLZ]

The drama is so stupid. If Eric stays a gay man and never transitions, what is the problem with that? I feel insecure people put too much of their identity into these games. As far as that guy refusing to sleep with her after learning she was trans, that is his decision. That doesn't make him transphobic, he just wants to have sex with a biological female and I understand that.

No dude you're not allowed to turn down a tranny. You have to accept. You have no choice.

Wait a minute, isn't that practically rape?

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

There's this thing called Cognitive Behavior Therapy where they teach you to identify and get through certain dangerous or self destructive thought patterns. They use it to (effectively) treat eating disorders, depression, gambling, smoking, and mental illness. It is done by identifying certain patterns which are particularly unhealthy, and it seems that the people complaining about Catherine have just gone down the list of unhealthy thought patterns (cognitive distortions) and decided they take one of everything.

For example, catastrophizing. This is basically assuming the worst possible outcome, or that any negative outcome would be a catastrophy. In this case, I've seen people say that Catherine will literally lead to the murder of trans people.

Here's a list of cognitive distortions. See how many you can recognize. you might just get Bingo!

Filtering - magnifying the negative details while downplaying or ignoring the positive ones.
Polarized Thinking - Something is either all or nothing, with no shades in between.
Overgeneralization - Coming to a general conclusion based on a single piece of evidence.
Jumping to Conclusions - Assuming you know what others are thinking or feelings.
Catastrophizing - Covered already.
Personalization - Believing everything someone does or says is a personal slight against you.
Fallacy of Fairness - Having an opinion on what is fair, but being resentful when others disagree.
Blaming - I mean, duh.
Shoulds - Having ironclad rules about how others should behave.
Emotional Reasoning - If I feel this way, it must be true.
Fallacy of Change - Other people will change if I just insult, pressure, or ridicule them enough.
Global Labeling - Taking one bad aspect of a person and using it to judge them as a whole.
Always Being Right - Believing one is always right and never wrong.
Heaven's Reward Fallacy - Believing there is a reward for their behavior (being on the right side of history).

Did you notice one or more of those things in this discussion, or maybe even in the discussion over at ResetEra? Did you notice... I don't know... ALL OF THEM?

 

[Senhua]

Ah it's true what I predict on other thread as some Western / American gaming community, developer and platform holder still want to dictate other country's value and culture. Cultural imperialist.

 

[MB2Z]

What can we expect more from that cancerous, toxic, and racist community?

Whenever I go check there, I feel like I’m getting choked from all those stupid threads.

Now they made Katsura Hashino a criminal with their latest thread ... they can reach that low I guess.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

There's this thing called Cognitive Behavior Therapy where they teach you to identify and get through certain dangerous or self destructive thought patterns. They use it to (effectively) treat eating disorders, depression, gambling, smoking, and mental illness. It is done by identifying certain patterns which are particularly unhealthy, and it seems that the people complaining about Catherine have just gone down the list of unhealthy thought patterns (cognitive distortions) and decided they take one of everything.

For example, catastrophizing. This is basically assuming the worst possible outcome, or that any negative outcome would be a catastrophy. In this case, I've seen people say that Catherine will literally lead to the murder of trans people.

Here's a list of cognitive distortions. See how many you can recognize. you might just get Bingo!

Filtering - magnifying the negative details while downplaying or ignoring the positive ones.
Polarized Thinking - Something is either all or nothing, with no shades in between.
Overgeneralization - Coming to a general conclusion based on a single piece of evidence.
Jumping to Conclusions - Assuming you know what others are thinking or feelings.
Catastrophizing - Covered already.
Personalization - Believing everything someone does or says is a personal slight against you.
Fallacy of Fairness - Having an opinion on what is fair, but being resentful when others disagree.
Blaming - I mean, duh.
Shoulds - Having ironclad rules about how others should behave.
Emotional Reasoning - If I feel this way, it must be true.
Fallacy of Change - Other people will change if I just insult, pressure, or ridicule them enough.
Global Labeling - Taking one bad aspect of a person and using it to judge them as a whole.
Always Being Right - Believing one is always right and never wrong.
Heaven's Reward Fallacy - Believing there is a reward for their behavior (being on the right side of history).

Did you notice one or more of those things in this discussion, or maybe even in the discussion over at ResetEra? Did you notice... I don't know... ALL OF THEM?

So you've read "The Coddling of the American Mind" too, huh?

It just especially pisses me off that these dipshits would spoil an unreleased game.

 

[Nickolaidas]

I hope this game does really well, outrage culture is fucking bullshit. I know I need to stop mentioning Resetera, but that crowd is a fucking cancer in the industry and I don't say that lightly. There's a thread over there right now called "The Phobic Crimes of Katsura Hashino". THE. PHOBIC. CRIMES. CRIMES. Hashino is one of the best creators of our generation and he deserves respect, at best you can accuse him of not sharing a singular very western morality point of view on some things, but that's it. If you have even a passing interest on video games, you need to treat that man with decency instead of being quick to act like an asshole. You're not talking about a random fucking nobody, you're quick to shield gaming journos nobody gives a shit about like they're fucking martyrs and yet you throw a leading creator under the bus for the pettiest fucking reasons. Stop pretending you like video games and get the fuck out of this culture, go danger hair somewhere else.

I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't be angry, but I am. I am disgusted. This is disgusting.

Couldn't help but go watch that thread. The OP actually has a WHAT CAN WE DO? paragraph on how to ban the game, or harass the creators. It's … it's … fuck, I can't believe I've been lurking on that cesspool for 2 years in order to get gaming news and leaks. Fuck that shit.

But crimes? SERIOUSLY!? God, those people are flat out dangerous if they get their hands on power.

I don't applaud the oversexualization of DoA and the jiggle physics, but I won't ask to ban the game for everyone else! Ignore the product if you don't like it, and move on!

Christ!

"Within hours of the phobic revelations about Catherine: Full Body, a petition to add the game to the official ResetEra banlist (written by yours truly) was submitted to site admins" … the cunt is actually proud of starting this. He takes pride on the fact that he's the one who asks to ban the game and LITERALLY LABEL THE CREATOR AS A CRIMINAL. I … I don't even.

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

So you've read "The Coddling of the American Mind" too, huh?

I have, but I'm familiar with CBT because of my daughter. Her friend was going to sessions and we considered it to help her with anxiety. There's a long story there about why we chose not to do it, but I was aware of it before I ever read Coddling. That book just made me put two and two together and realize how diseased the thinking of these people are.

 

[Danjin44]

Couldn't help but go watch that thread. The OP actually has a WHAT CAN WE DO? paragraph on how to ban the game, or harass the creators. It's … it's … fuck, I can't believe I've been lurking on that cesspool for 2 years in order to get gaming news and leaks. Fuck that shit.

But crimes? SERIOUSLY!? God, those people are flat out dangerous if they get their hands on power.

I don't applaud the oversexualization of DoA and the jiggle physics, but I won't ask to ban the game for everyone else! Ignore the product if you don't like it, and move on!

Christ!

"Within hours of the phobic revelations about Catherine: Full Body, a petition to add the game to the official ResetEra banlist (written by yours truly) was submitted to site admins" … the cunt is actually proud of starting this. He takes pride on the fact that he's the one who asks to ban the game and LITERALLY LABEL THE CREATOR AS A CRIMINAL. I … I don't even.

Are these people are out of their fucking minds!!? This shit makes me want to vomit!!! FUCK!!!

 

[Nickolaidas]

"ResetEra was literally founded as a result of disgusting views and actions taken by a powerful individual in the games community, with the intention of creating a space where everyone with a passion for games could feel safe, valued and welcomed."

…. until we spot anyone who has a different opinion of what we consider appropriate. Then they must be prosecuted, tweeted to hell and back, mocked, harassed, insulted, threatened and asked to quit their jobs and leave our precious industry forever.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I hope this game does really well, outrage culture is fucking bullshit. I know I need to stop mentioning Resetera, but that crowd is a fucking cancer in the industry and I don't say that lightly. There's a thread over there right now called "The Phobic Crimes of Katsura Hashino". THE. PHOBIC. CRIMES. CRIMES. Hashino is one of the best creators of our generation and he deserves respect, at best you can accuse him of not sharing a singular very western morality point of view on some things, but that's it. If you have even a passing interest on video games, you need to treat that man with decency instead of being quick to act like an asshole. You're not talking about a random fucking nobody, you're quick to shield gaming journos nobody gives a shit about like they're fucking martyrs and yet you throw a leading creator under the bus for the pettiest fucking reasons. Stop pretending you like video games and get the fuck out of this culture, go danger hair somewhere else.

I shouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't be angry, but I am. I am disgusted. This is disgusting.

Yes, this is a new low for SJW outrage, they're almost acting like radical Muslims outraged over someone disrespecting the prophet Mohammed or something.

I feel like 2019 is going to be the breaking point for this though or least the beginning of the end, it's going to get so absolutely crazy, possibly with these people making threats of physical violence, that more and more normal people are going to get pushed away.

I have, but I'm familiar with CBT because of my daughter. Her friend was going to sessions and we considered it to help her with anxiety. There's a long story there about why we chose not to do it, but I was aware of it before I ever read Coddling. That book just made me put two and two together and realize how diseased the thinking of these people are.

Yes, this is what's so frightening about all this, it's not just politics or a disagreement of opinion, these people are literally mentally deranged, it's mental illness masquerading as a political movement in an attempt to make the whole world as sick in the head as they are.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Yes, this is a new low for SJW outrage, they're almost acting like radical Muslims outraged over someone disrespecting the prophet Mohammed or something.

Banned for 3 days: member was expressing hate towards a religion group.

 

[Aren117]

I think industry insiders should leave ResetERA and stop acknowledging that hivemind asap. It's just not healthy for anyone.

That being said, I do think Persona 4 (the one I've played the most) treats the LGBTQ+ people really poorly with all those Kanji " gay jokes".

But the game is not a sole person work, so I don't think other devs should be punished, etc.

 

[Nickolaidas]

I think industry insiders should leave ResetERA and stop acknowledging that hivemind asap. It's just not healthy for anyone.

That being said, I do think Persona 4 (the one I've played the most) treats the LGBTQ+ people really poorly with all those Kanji " gay jokes".

But the game is not a sole person work, so I don't think other devs should be punished, etc.

No, they're equally responsible for not turning him over to the authorities. Or quitting their job altogether once they had realized what a horrible, fucked-up man he is. They're accomplices.

Everyone should pay. Everyone *will* pay.

*stabs a goat and sacrifices it in the name of trans people all over the planet*

 

[TLZ]

The biggest joke is anyone giving them attention. If insiders, devs, etc all leave that place, they're dead. Best thing to do is to stop giving them attention.

But I guess they're bound to implode soon anyway.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I think industry insiders should leave ResetERA and stop acknowledging that hivemind asap. It's just not healthy for anyone.

That being said, I do think Persona 4 (the one I've played the most) treats the LGBTQ+ people really poorly with all those Kanji " gay jokes".

But the game is not a sole person work, so I don't think other devs should be punished, etc.

You can dislike that kind stuff but the trouble is SJWs take stuff like LGBTQ+ to the point of it literally being their Religion.

A normal person may not like gay jokes but just shrugs them off and/or plays something else, an SJW acts like it's an act of blasphemy and they must start burning heretics.

It's a cult, it's a literal, truly, full on cult like mentality that has taken hold of many minds on the left wing, it's not really about the specific issues like LGBTQ+ but the way these zealots act about them.

*stabs a goat and sacrifices it in the name of trans people all over the planet*

And that's a perfect joke to make because like I said, it's an actual cult.

 

[Nickolaidas]

The biggest joke is anyone giving them attention. If insiders, devs, etc all leave that place, they're dead. Best thing to do is to stop giving them attention.

But I guess they're bound to implode soon anyway.

Not too sure about 'soon' when I see powerful devs (Naughty Dog) and companies (Sony) licking their balls.

 

[TLZ]

Not too sure about 'soon' when I see powerful devs (Naughty Dog) and companies (Sony) licking their balls.

Hopefully soon they'll know it was a mistake when they see those idiots are nothing but lunatics.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Mental illness is real :
http://resetera.kiwifarms.net

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Hopefully soon they'll know it was a mistake when they see those idiots are nothing but lunatics.

We can only hope but this madness has a funny way of spreading because of the way they very purposefully frame it, as you're either with them or you're on the side of murdering LGBT people or Nazism or other general bigotry.

The average person's logic centers of their brain shut down when they thinks it's a matter of bigotry versus non-bigotry, they're not able to see any nuance or context, it blinds them to reality.

And remember, in today's world every developer in America already has a few wolves in the hen houses, you ever notice how every group developer photo these days has a few fat girls and other SJW looking types? The infiltration of gaming by this culture goes pretty deep, it may be easy to dismiss some web forum, but when you have coworkers in your development team demanding it be taken seriously, then it's going to be a lot harder.

They know what they're doing, they're networked and they have a very clear agenda in mind.

The virus may have already taken too much of a hold to save gaming, at least in the west, but we can be hopeful.

 

[Nickolaidas]

And remember, in today's world every developer in America already has a few wolves in the hen houses, you ever notice how every group developer photo these days has a few fat girls and other SJW looking types?

Game developers are usually not the epitome of physical fitness. It makes sense that a person who deals with gaming has a life which revolves around sitting on a desk with a computer, accumulating fat. I'd prefer a fat chick who knows her gaming stuff rather than a pin-up girl who is only there to look pretty.

I'm not saying that pretty girls can't be AAA gaming devs (see Assassin's Creed, once upon a time), but being chubby chick and working as a game dev makes sense to me, I guess. Neither is cool to automatically assume that a fat chick who is a game dev is a far-left wing activist or something.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Resetera has multiple active developers on it's board. We know that neogaf, and other forums have an influence in the game development scene, which is pretty small and insular.

There is a reason why game development has become a echo chamber, and websites like resetera, reddit, etc etc are partially why.

Resetera is not the problem but that the same kind of people represent a big chunk of gaming journalism. So, as a developer, you don't really have an alternative but to oblige to a certain extent. I mean, regardless of the fact if your game sells well or not, who the hell wants bad press? This is a HUGE problem folks, I'm telling you.

There were always people complaining about stuff like this, only back a few years ago no one reported about it. And that is the whole difference: Today it gets reported.... a lot.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Game developers are usually not the epitome of physical fitness. It makes sense that a person who deals with gaming has a life which revolves around sitting on a desk with a computer, accumulating fat. I'd prefer a fat chick who knows her gaming stuff rather than a pin-up girl who is only there to look pretty.

I'm not saying that pretty girls can't be AAA gaming devs (see Assassin's Creed, once upon a time), but being chubby chick and working as a game dev makes sense to me, I guess. Neither is cool to automatically assume that a fat chick who is a game dev is a far-left wing activist or something.

I know that comment was pretty harsh and judgmental, but it is what it is, if you had to guess who were the feminists out of a developer group who would you pick?

And it's important to remember we're not always talking just fat, but usually also with dyed hair, what politics would you guess a chubby girl with dyed hair would have? I mean it's like they dye their hair to purposely signal what they're all about.

But yeah, you can't always geuss for sure, I'm just saying it's fishy and I also want to make it very clear that I'm not saying these devs aren't talented and know how to make a game, but they also might see games as tools of social engineering, it ain't just about your entertainment anymore.

 

[Graciaus]

Mental illness is real :
http://resetera.kiwifarms.net

I think my favorite is the person thanking the thread creator for a spoiler in the title with no chance to avoid it. 5 day ban.

 

[ROMhack]

Another book that explains why people are generally wrong, biased and full of nonsense: Daniel Kahneman's Thinking, Fast and Slow.

 

[Outrunner]

Not too sure about 'soon' when I see powerful devs (Naughty Dog) and companies (Sony) licking their balls.

Wouldn't consider Naughty Dog a powerful dev to be honest. They are only good at "cinematic experiences" with shallow gameplay mechanics.

 

[Nickolaidas]

And it's important to remember we're not always talking just fat, but usually also with dyed hair, what politics would you guess a chubby girl with dyed hair would have? I mean it's like they dye their hair to purposely signal what they're all about.

I'm making polite conversation with this response so please don't take it as me being snide or patronizing. Tone can often be misinterpreted in the internet, after all.

I was always under the impression that especially fat, chubby or simply unattractive (physically) women tend to feel isolated, and something of an outcast - heck, many men can perfectly fit under that category. So these persons tend to dye their hair or dress in a non-traditional way in order to embrace the fact that they're different, outcasts and don't play by the rules of what's socially expected of them.

Since gamers are considered by many non-gamers to be unsocial, awkward nerds, gamer girls probably fit into this trope and embrace their difference in their clothing and hairstyle. Now granted, I am NOT an American so I do not know whether this trend of women dying hair in America is now supposed to express a left/far-left political stance or something pro-gay/trans or whatever.

You gave me an idea for a thread I'd like to make, though. Too bad I don't have enough privileges here on GAF to do so.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Wouldn't consider Naughty Dog a powerful dev to be honest. They are only good at "cinematic experiences" with shallow gameplay mechanics.

They *are* one of the first - if not the first - names to be heard when a Sony fanboy wants to praise their console's exclusives, though. Their name holds tremendous weight in the industry in terms of prestige.

 

[Outrunner]

They *are* one of the first - if not the first - names to be heard when a Sony fanboy wants to praise their console's exclusives, though. Their name holds tremendous weight in the industry in terms of prestige.

Yeah but only among Sony fanboys and casual gamers, or at least that's my experience.

 

[TLZ]

Mental illness is real :
http://resetera.kiwifarms.net

Bans. Bans everywhere.

Are there people left there anymore? Is it just the few ones with multiple accounts left talking to themselves?

 

[Nickolaidas]

Yeah but only among Sony fanboys and casual gamers, or at least that's my experience.

Eeeeh …

Most Sony fanboys will say how crap Halo, Gears of War, Metroid and Zelda are, even though they would lose their shit if these games got ported to their console.

Most X-Box fanboys will say how crap The Last of Us, God of War, Metroid and Zelda are, even though they would lose their shit if these games got ported to their console..

And most Nintendo fanboys will say how crap The Last of Us, God of War, Gears of War and Halo are, even though they would lose shit their if these games got ported to their console.

I think the only reason most fanboys look down upon other companies' exclusives is purely psychological - they need to convince themselves they don't need to buy another console, so they try to believe that other consoles' exclusives are crap.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Bans. Bans everywhere.

Are there people left there anymore? Is it just the few ones with multiple accounts left talking to themselves?

One hundred crazies are more than enough to produce a decent echo chamber, way I see it.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Btw. Everyone who preaches that he wouldn't be turned off instantly after finding out he's about to get laid with someone who is trans is just a fucking liar imo.

 

[Stitch]

Yikes! I'm so angry right now. I'm literally shaking. SMH I need to calm down.

btw Naked Gun was on TV yesterday and there's no way you could show a scene like this in a new movie

 

[Hudo]

So what? I haven't played the game but if it happens to be transphobic in its message, then so fucking what? You are not forced to buy a game. People are also free to make a game that's 100% pro transsexual in its messaging and people are then free to support, ignore or hate on that as well. Just because this game has an opinion doesn't make it invalid, just as other games are free to have diametric opinions on the same matter that are just as valid.

If we start censoring every opinion to adhere to some "societal standard", then we should abolish discussion and any democratic values as well, while we're at it. If you get offended by a game (that, again, you are not forced to buy. You can even ignore it!), then introspect why that is.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Yikes! I'm so angry right now. I'm literally shaking. SMH I need to calm down.

btw Naked Gun was on TV yesterday and there's no way you could show a scene like this in a new movie

It is quite astonishing to see a country pull a full 180' and do the exact opposite of what it did ago in pop culture.

Although, while this scene *is* transphobic, I do not consider it insulting. Why *wouldn't* a straight male get freaked out when a sex bomb turns out to be a trans?

Why shouldn't *I* freak out when the hot lady I wish to bone in the bar turns out to have a penis?

Those people seem to imply that straight men should automatically accept a trans person just like they would accept a woman. Why?

Should a lesbian accept a gay man because 'he's all woman inside'? No seriously, if a lesbian sees a hot chick in a bar and wishes to kiss her, then find out the chick is actually a transvestite, should she go through with it? Or will she freak out?

If I don't want to fuck you, does that automatically mean I disagree with your mere existence?