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Crackdown 3 - Review Thread

thelastword

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Is there a black crush issue with this game....

Edit: I just want to make it very clear that I don't even own a Playstation. I don't see any value in the $600~ PS4 pro barely pushing 1400p in AAA games and I bought the One X specifically for 4K native Red Dead 2. I don't have an anti-xbox agenda here. I'm just pointing out the facts that CD3 is technically and visually below average.

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A game 5 years in development, yet not much in the way of atmosphere.... and so many duplicate bulidings and assets.....Weak textures....Chromatic Aberration overlaod...This game lacks so much in detail and complexity....Buildings fall like cheap lego products.....What were these guys doing? I guess they just wanted to ensure this run at 4k on XBONEX, but the game I'm seeing here looks like it should run at 60fps on an XBONES......
 

VAL0R

Banned
What chaps my cheeks about many of the CD3 reviews is we are being told that the game is "average" and "mediocre." Compared to what standard is CD3 average and mediocre? This needs to be clarified. Is it only average in the pool of the *thousands* of games that are made every year of wildly varying quality? Nonsense. CD3 is clearly far better than the average game in this sense. So are reviewers meaning that it is merely average among other major releases (big productions, big budgets, etc.) and the mere handful of other small games from tiny teams that found lighting in the bottle are were major successes? If yes, that is a critical distinction. "He's a mediocre basketball player" and "He's a mediocre basketball player in the NBA" are two statements with a small qualifier that make a world of difference.

I do not accept that Crackdown 3 is average or mediocre when compared to all other games. I am willing to accept that it is average among major big-budget releases. I feel bad for the team(s) involved because the game is getting reviewed worse than most games and the product is of far greater quality than that.
 

ethomaz

Banned
People must be playing on the regular xbox on a TV out of the 80's because on the 1X on a 4k OLED with HDR, this game looks incredible, especially with the sheer action that goes on at once.

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Where is the X pictures?

The city in these pictures looks like old-gen GTA games.

Sure it is 4k but you can run Quake at 4k and it will still have Quake dated graphics.

CD3 has pretty graphics for a retro game... not for PS4/XB1 standard.
 
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DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
What chaps my cheeks about many of the CD3 reviews is we are being told that the game is "average" and "mediocre." Compared to what standard is CD3 average and mediocre? This needs to be clarified. Is it only average in the pool of the *thousands* of games that are made every year of wildly varying quality? Nonsense. CD3 is clearly far better than the average game in this sense. So are reviewers meaning that it is merely average among other major releases (big productions, big budgets, etc.) and the mere handful of other small games from tiny teams that found lighting in the bottle are were major successes? If yes, that is a critical distinction. "He's a mediocre basketball player" and "He's a mediocre basketball player in the NBA" are two statements with a small qualifier that make a world of difference.

I do not accept that Crackdown 3 is average or mediocre when compared to all other games. I am willing to accept that it is average among major big-budget releases. I feel bad for the team(s) involved because the game is getting reviewed worse than most games and the product is of far greater quality than that.

Clearly far better?

First, let's look at two reviews.

Windows Central

Crackdown 3, like its predecessors, sports comic book-style designs with vibrant, outlined 3D models. The art direction is decent, with interesting characters and a neon-washed sci-fi city that makes for great screencaps. The lighting and modelling work leaves a lot to be desired, however. Crackdown 3 is a relatively dated-looking game, even when taking into account that stylized art. Luckily for Crackdown 3, the action is so incredibly fast-paced you'll rarely have time to sit back and examine the sights.

Gamespot

Draw distance aside, the visuals are underwhelming, leaning too heavily on recreating the simple cel-shaded look of past Crackdown games. The one technological advancement the game has to boast about--large-scale destruction, powered by Microsoft's Azure cloud servers--is reserved entirely for the online Wrecking Zone mode, which uses mode-specific maps rather than letting you blow up parts of the city itself. There's no meaningful destruction in the campaign, and the end result is a world that feels lifeless, as if some key element of it is missing.

If I was reviewing this game, it would hard for me to say the game looks good because it doesn't look as good as a lot of current generation games out there. It doesn't need to look realistic, it just needs to have a better art style. The agents? Well, they pretty much basic with similar designs. It doesn't standout.

The animations? They seem very basic and that again will give it a lower score because there are a lot of games out here that do a much better job in this department.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
When people say it looks like a 360 game, they're saying the graphics have not evolved much since that era. It's not suppose to be taken literally, but it does feel like the game is stuck in the past when it comes to graphics.

Gravity Rush was inspired by Crackdown and that game too uses a similar cartoon art style. We can see how the graphics evolved from 2012 to 2017 (or the remaster version on the PS4).

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The environment looks like a generational leap. And the animation? It looks great.

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Personally, it's hard to be really impressed when I see games like this while Crackdown 3 stays behind in many areas graphically. People are entitled to their own opinion, but this is just mine.

GR2 has never been on my radar but those animations are a visual orgasm.
Yap. To me Gravity Rush has one of the best art direction in games. When you flying(falling) around and you see one of city island that part of it covered with clouds, it just gives “castles in the sky” vibe and I absolutely love it!
 
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bilderberg

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Bloodborne and god of war(2018) shit on all the ms games gameplaywise. Try harder, and play something good like vanquish.

Their is nothing good about GoW's gameplay. It's bottom of the barrel. You can brake the combat just spamming the ax throw over and over again for 90% of the encounters.
 

Sparda

Banned
Their is nothing good about GoW's gameplay. It's bottom of the barrel. You can brake the combat just spamming the ax throw over and over again for 90% of the encounters.
another youtube player, i see. It's funny when xbots don't say anything good on other games except for microsoft games :)
 

RPS37

Member
Their is nothing good about GoW's gameplay. It's bottom of the barrel. You can brake the combat just spamming the ax throw over and over again for 90% of the encounters.
Weird. I’ve tried that and got my ass handed to me.
So after sinking quite a few hours into this game, I can say Gerstmann is wrong and Gies is right.
Also, I really don’t understand how they finished the game so quickly.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
The city seems.. small? I feel like I've sen 90% of it and played 4-6 hours. I've killed several bosses, not sure how much of the story is left. I was thinking there was going to be more than one island, is there?
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
The city seems.. small? I feel like I've sen 90% of it and played 4-6 hours. I've killed several bosses, not sure how much of the story is left. I was thinking there was going to be more than one island, is there?
No. the island is HUGE in this game though.

And...you're playing for the story? What story? Lol.
 

louis89

Member
I'd say the people defending it wouldn't pay the full price and would only get it through Game Pass. Easier to say it's not too bad when it's practically free.

But spending near to £50 on it, I bet most those people wouldn't be so forgiving then.
Not only did I buy it for full price (£59.99, because I had to buy it from Amazon digitally to get around geographical restrictions), I bought an Xbox One X the day before in order to play it, with minimal intention of getting any other games. And I love it as I knew I would, and I can't wait to get home from work tonight to play it more. I was late to a house party last night because I couldn't stop collecting orbs.
 
Good news: User reviews are up on Metacritic to 4.2/10

Bad news: Critic reviews just dropped down on Metacritic to 59%
 
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Grinchy

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My buddy has officially dropped out of our co-op campaign so now I'm just going solo. I'm on PC but I had to play at 30fps for co-op because of whatever broken shit makes that happen. Now that he's gone I get to at least play at 60fps. The game plays much better at 60fps than it does at 30, I'll give it that.

I was still pretty damn bored playing alone. There's just nothing here. It's like a Ubisoft open world checklist game, except at least those have a main storyline on top of the sidequests and they modernize the gameplay as best they can. This is just one monotonous side quest after another with bad voiceovers that pop up after you finish your pointless task. The auto lock-on gunplay isn't satisfying in any way and it often locks on to cars that enemies jumped out of 20 seconds ago or things in the distance when you just want to kill the fucking guys who are shooting you. It's just so amateur.
 
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The quality of recent Xbox games is why I think MSFT was forced to implement gamepass. No one wants to buy these games, that's why renting service was essential.
 

LMJ

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I just checked his twitter. Wish i could do the laughing roll emoji.

“Playing a lot of Crackdown 3 and having a lot of fun.”


Isn't fun subjective?:pie_thinking:

Again, I get many people don't like the game and I agree there are valid reasons why, but some of you folks are taking this to stupid levels when you mock someone for saying they're having "fun".:messenger_pensive:

Having "fun" God forbid
 

NeonGhost

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The quality of recent Xbox games is why I think MSFT was forced to implement gamepass. No one wants to buy these games, that's why renting service was essential.
Yes and the first sign of this was all xbox exclusive would go to pc because they couldn't make a profit from the low user base
 
Good news: User reviews are up on Metacritic to 4.2/10

Bad news: Critic reviews just dropped down on Metacritic to 59%
If you look at the user reviews it's fairly obvious that hundreds of trolls purposely gave the game a score of 0-10 out of 100. Those aren't honest reviews, just more fanboy driven trash. Seriously, there are currently 260 negative reviews and almost all of them are scores of less than 10. Metacritic needs to do some serious quality control.
 
If you look at the user reviews it's fairly obvious that hundreds of trolls purposely gave the game a score of 0-10 out of 100. Those aren't honest reviews, just more fanboy driven trash. Seriously, there are currently 260 negative reviews and almost all of them are scores of less than 10. Metacritic needs to do some serious quality control.

Now explain the 8.7 metacritic user score for Spiderman PS4. Or the 9.1 user score for God of War.

Go ahead. I will wait.
 

RPS37

Member
Honestly, Spider-Man and God of War are a different league than Crackdown 3.
That being said, I’m still not able to stop playing Crackdown 3.
 
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AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
A positive thing I can say is CR3 is better than JC4. I paid $60 for JC4 and had to stop playing, it was a confusing mess. At least CR3 is simple fun. But I do object to people saying it has good particle effects. It does not. It abuses transparencies, very low res alpha effects that look like simple sprites. Compare the effects to Infamous Second Son which is like four years.

 
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Elenchus

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People would've originally needed to think highly of Crackdown 3 for it to be considered a disappointment.

Everyone expected this to happen.
Not really, you should read a few threads before this one, even in this thread some folk have expressed disappointment.......And no matter what anyone says, most fans did not expect a score of 60, they expected a higher score than that.......I mean yes, some persons definitely saw this coming, but some people were banking on CD3 to change MS's critical slump a bit, yet it reviewed much worse than all the other MS exclusives that came before it....

Disagree and would challenge you to quote the posters who said this for us. Most Xbox fans are playing Metro & Apex Legends right now (just like most Sony fans I suspect) and looking forward to Anthem, etc.

No one was hyping this game and the concern trolling around here was actually focused on why so many Xbox fans had NOT been hyping the game and why there wasn’t more marketing.

I saw no signs of excitement for it so I’m not surprised that there correspondingly are no real signs of disappointment. I’m afraid the mass seppuku you so long for is not coming.
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Paid 2 pounds for gamepass crackdown 3 is an old school game and a lot of fun too.
Gameplay over story.

It is def worth 20
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Gameplay over story.

To be fair the gameplay isn't great either. Repetitive auto lock-on shooting, bad AI, horrible driving, etc. The only thing they nailed was the traversal. It's mindless open world fun for a few hours at a time, but as soon as it is over you forgot what you were doing or why.
 
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Havoc2049

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When people say it looks like a 360 game, they're saying the graphics have not evolved much since that era. It's not suppose to be taken literally, but it does feel like the game is stuck in the past when it comes to graphics.

Gravity Rush was inspired by Crackdown and that game too uses a similar cartoon art style. We can see how the graphics evolved from 2012 to 2017 (or the remaster version on the PS4).

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The environment looks like a generational leap. And the animation? It looks great.

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Personally, it's hard to be really impressed when I see games like this while Crackdown 3 stays behind in many areas graphically. People are entitled to their own opinion, but this is just mine.

Yes, Gravity Rush 2 on the PS4 looks better than Gravity Rush on the Vita, but I think you're being somewhat disingenuous comparing it to the Crackdown series. The animations and the graphics are generationally better in Crackdown 3 as well, when compared to Crackdown 2. Here is a video comparing the graphics in Crackdown 2 to Crackdown 3. The graphics and animation in Crackdown 3 look way better than Crackdown 2.
 

DForce

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Yes, Gravity Rush 2 on the PS4 looks better than Gravity Rush on the Vita, but I think you're being somewhat disingenuous comparing it to the Crackdown series. The animations and the graphics are generationally better in Crackdown 3 as well, when compared to Crackdown 2. Here is a video comparing the graphics in Crackdown 2 to Crackdown 3. The graphics and animation in Crackdown 3 look way better than Crackdown 2.

I'm not.

Graphics look better, but they do not feel like a generational leap.

The environment and animation detail just look very basic in design, and for the most part, they don't really stand out. This is my opinion, but it's clear that a lot of people feel the same way and it's not because they're just hating on an Xbox game.

Like, how can someone be impressed by the way the game has a very basic look to it?

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In open world games, it's always good to go around and notice the small environment details and Crackdown doesn't have very much of that compared to other games.
 

Danjin44

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I'm not.

Graphics look better, but they do not feel like a generational leap.

The environment and animation detail just look very basic in design, and for the most part, they don't really stand out. This is my opinion, but it's clear that a lot of people feel the same way and it's not because they're just hating on an Xbox game.

Like, how can someone be impressed by the way the game has a very basic look to it?

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In open world games, it's always good to go around and notice the small environment details and Crackdown doesn't have very much of that compared to other games.
This mostly my own personal taste, but I feel Crackdown 3 art direction is really lacking and the world looks really basic compare to other games. Gravity Rush 2 also has cel shaded/comic book like visuals but it art direction look so much more interesting and cities feels much more alive compare to Crackdown 3.
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Crackdown might even had more advance graphics in technical side but this why most of the time art direction more important than expensive graphics.
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
This mostly my own personal taste, but I feel Crackdown 3 art direction is really lacking and the world looks really basic compare to other games. Gravity Rush 2 also has cel shaded/comic book like visuals but it art direction look so much more interesting and cities feels much more alive compare to Crackdown 3.
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Crackdown might even had more advance graphics in technical side but this why most of the time art direction more important than expensive graphics.
Never played this game. Any good?
 
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