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Does 'Days Gone' Cross the Line By Letting Players Kill Child Zombies?

DonF

Member
Let me kill all the pixels! Also, kid zombies are already dead, if anything you are ending their suffering.
 

EDMIX

Member
The game is rated M....

Thats it. The game is fictional, even if it wasn't a infected baby...THE GAME IS RATED M! I'm not sure why the community keeps trying to add their morals or feelings to stuff like this. Don't play it and move on. You folks can't keep putting training wheels on the industry and then get shocked when other industries keep seeing gaming for kids. They own't waste time to create any meaningful stories for adults if many keep trying to FORCE that the industry stay PG for their feelings.

smh and people are surprised when the medium gets no respect huh?
 

Kagey K

Banned
Let me kill all the pixels! Also, kid zombies are already dead, if anything you are ending their suffering.
If I remember right didn’t they say Freakers aren’t zombies and aren’t actually dead?

This would mean instead of killing undead humans, you are killing mutated humans.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
If I remember right didn’t they say Freakers aren’t zombies and aren’t actually dead?

This would mean instead of killing undead humans, you are killing mutated humans.

With no cure (not like you could reverse that mutation anyhow) in the post apocalyptic world, still mercy killing if they wanna act a fool.
 

Kamina

Golden Boy
In Witcher 3 you had to kill a Fetus that turned into a monster, and that was also fine,
They are zombies, and it doesn’t matter if they are small or large.
 

Iggzy

Member
No and I hope Sony don't censor it, how many games had balls to add childlike enemies? Last one I recall was Dead Space, and I don't remember anyone to have problem with that.
 
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Deleted member 471617

Unconfirmed Member
FUCK NO.

Because they're mutated and no longer human beings and thus no longer kids, you can kill them all. What they were no longer matters. What they are does and in that regard, they're an enemy that will kill you and thus, you need to kill them first.
 

Heimdall_Xtreme

Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Damn and here I always thought you were nice, your avatar deceives me.


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crowbrow

Banned
QqEra are gonna have a field day with this! Something to fill up their pathetic lives, I guess :messenger_grinning_squinting:
That place is fine with murdering children, you see, murdering children is fine because there's a context and it makes sense.

The only thing they have a problem with and which is much more morally reprehensible to them is white male protagonists, misgendering someone, politically incorrect humor, hot females nudity (if female is fat and ugly is fine or if it's a dick which is shown is also fine), children or anyone who looks young having sex, rape.

Anything else is fair play.

Prudish morality 101.
 

Heimdall_Xtreme

Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
I do not understand politic´s sony about censored, then there is no problem with the games that sony created, even if you can kill children or there is extreme violence or even if a child have a Weapon (Ellie TLOU), but if they are games with purely Japanese themes, visual novels or that speak about sexual freedom without problem, they gonna scream to the holy grail?

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Heimdall_Xtreme

Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
It’s the US, and it’s bled into Canada.

Violence is fine, you can punch each other all day. But sex is a no no. Don’t stop punching to have sex. Just hit them until it’s all the same.


Lol xD


I mean


This is fine for sony

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this is the most horrible thing for Sony

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????

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i dont see logic at all xDDD.
 

Dunki

Member
I never understand why children in Videogames now have to be invincible. Hey you want to roleplay a very bad and evil Person in lets say Skyrim. You can kill everyone do anything but the one thing you can not do is to kill children? Really? I remember Fallout in which you could kill them with miniguns etc. But today it has become ridiculous. they are not real they are fiction and pixels.
 
Uh, this has been done already. Dead Space 2 had necromorph kids and babies that you fought. I'm not surprised this is an issue though in today's increasingly puritanical online world.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
But they're zombies remember? You can't kill something that's not alive ... Oh well, when it suits, the media can suddenly consider the ethics based on it being a virus instead. At least we've established they're not the undead so that's a step in the right direction.
 

IbizaPocholo

NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
https://vandal.elespanol.com/notici...ablan-sobre-la-polemica-con-los-ninos-zombis/

Last week in Vandal we visited the offices of Bend Studio and were able to learn first hand the vicissitudes of the development of Days Gone , offering us the possibility of knowing more about its creation. At the same time, we were able to talk to the director of the title, John Garvin, and asked him about the zombie children's polemic.

"For me personally, as a scriptwriter, director and developer, of course there are certain red lines I would never cross and elements I don't want in my games. But about the Newt, I don't think we crossed them. Every creature in Days Gone has a purpose," Garvin added.

"No one is there to be provocative or controversial, they are there because they have a very specific function and purpose, and in this case I can't go very deep because it would be spoiler, but they play a very important part in history and they are not helpless creatures, they are really dangerous," argued John Garvin about the recent controversy over including the Newt, the freaker kids. In fact, in Days Gone, frakers have a very clear role within the video game ecosystem, and hence, as we told you in our impressions, a systemic video game.

In the videogame we will tackle combats against many types of freakers, all with their particularities and designs, and all of them are part of a larger ecosystem. For example, in this case, the children frakers when they see us are frightened and they climb on the roofs or the farthest places and with height, attacking us when they feel unsuspecting or weak. In addition, they warn and alert other frakers, who will come when they see us enter their territory.
 

anthraticus

Banned
I never understand why children in Videogames now have to be invincible. Hey you want to roleplay a very bad and evil Person in lets say Skyrim. You can kill everyone do anything but the one thing you can not do is to kill children? Really? I remember Fallout in which you could kill them with miniguns etc. But today it has become ridiculous. they are not real they are fiction and pixels.
Of course in Bethesda's shitty versions of Fallout they don't let you.. Typical.

Oh and.....

 
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Kagey K

Banned
But they're zombies remember? You can't kill something that's not alive ... Oh well, when it suits, the media can suddenly consider the ethics based on it being a virus instead. At least we've established they're not the undead so that's a step in the right direction.

They aren’t zombies though, as has been stated above. Everyone you kill is still alive, just mutated.

I think that’s where the difference lies.
 
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Deleted member 471617

Unconfirmed Member
Can't wait for Days Gone baby!!! Have no issues with killing kids in the game simply because they're no longer human and obviously, it's a fucking video game.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Can't wait for Days Gone baby!!! Have no issues with killing kids in the game simply because they're no longer human and obviously, it's a fucking video game.

I’ve never seen anyone so pumped for what looks like a mediocre retell of a mutant game, but hey you do you.

I will ask, why is this game so exciting to you and World War Z isn’t?
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I’ve never seen anyone so pumped for what looks like a mediocre retell of a mutant game, but hey you do you.

I will ask, why is this game so exciting to you and World War Z isn’t?
Well it might look “mediocre” to you but not for others.
 

GenericUser

Member
No, it's a videogame that is intended to be played by a mature audience. I don't see a problem at all. People who are adults and cannot differentiate between digitital and real violence have other problems then videogames.
 

Mista

Banned
Since they’re zombies it’s alright. It’s a video game anyways and we’ve seen much worse than that before
 

RuhRo

Member
In a simulator experience where you suffer consequences for killing, I think this is unproblematic. In an arcade style game like this where you’re murdering hordes of enemies without consequence, I get having slightly more discomfort.
 
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grumpyGamer

Member
No and its completelly stupid to defend otherwise, these are games, they are meant for entertainment.
I cant stop believing that people who defend these type of arguments are closed in a room for 10 years and just discovered the internet today.

But beside my rant, if this argument were to be valid, than you whould have to aplly it to violence, porn, movies, anime, cartoons, you whould have to censor everything.

And outside the usa this is not a problem, here in europe almost nobody defends such points of view
 
Do we not see things like this is horror movies once in a while? There's never an uproar when an ultraviolent movie is released but when a videogame is released you have the heads of state declaring videogames bad for the youth. It's madness.
 

PocoJoe

Banned
People whom cant see the difference between killing a kid in a game vs reality should be declared as mentally ill.

It's just a game, also same with movies, just fiction and should not affect the viewer.
 
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