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FFVII: Remake Trailer

Dacon

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I think she was pretty flat in Advent Children, comparatively speaking. We`re not getting huge swinging boob Tifa again if that`s what you`re hoping for.

What? No. She's not as big as she is in OG, but she is by no means flat. They even gave her a bit of jiggle in Advent Children Complete.

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Senhua

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Sony, the king of moneyhat this gen strikes again lmao.
Will buy this used if the review is good otherwise pass
 

Aggelos

Member
Since Sony said that PS5 won't be released before April 2020,

may we suspect/suppose the FF7Remake might arrive sometime in 2020 according to what Nomura stated on the official FF twitter account and the fact that the trailer still points to PS4?
I was just wondering....


 
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Psykodad

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Who cares? What's the difference? The point is that SE's stated rationale for not going turn-based is idiotic. They could make it a rhythm game or a kart racer or a real time strategy game and it wouldn't matter in the slightest, because nothing about the FFVII remake will ever be "niche". This is a solved problem. You put Cloud on the box and tell redditors to like it. These people bought FFXII twice; I promise you they aren't gonna blink. And before you protest, keepi in mind that SE already behaves as if this is true. There's been zero continuity of style or gameplay in the series for over a decade now, because at this point it's just another brand. It's Hello Kitty for videogames and I'm not even talking about spin-offs (although I could, because they're endless); the main numbered series post-FFX has seen every substantive atom of Final Fantasy surgically extracted in favor of spineless trend chasing. What's left is the iconography: Chocobos and Ifrit and Buster Swords and anything else you can put on a t-shirt.

Cool and all, but it has been changed and it was always going to be changed.
At this point it's just pathetic to still whine about it not being turn based, because it not being tb has been known for 13 years now.

And to state the obvious, FFVII wouldn't ever be released in this day and age, which is the only reason to be excited about a potential remake!

What does that have to do with anything.
Remake is a reimagining of what they would've made of the game IF it would've been released for the first time today.
 

wzy

Member
Cool and all, but it has been changed and it was always going to be changed.
At this point it's just pathetic to still whine about it not being turn based, because it not being tb has been known for 13 years now.

The pathetic thing to do in this situation is, objectively, to buy it anyway.

What does that have to do with anything.
Remake is a reimagining of what they would've made of the game IF it would've been released for the first time today.

Okay, and what I'm saying is, as slowly as possible now: SE today is a bad developer that makes dogshit. So there's no reason to expect that FF7R will not be dogshit. If, instead, they had faithfully recreated the game that the company made when they did not make dogshit, we could at least applaud the effort.
 
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Airbus Jr

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Sony, the king of moneyhat this gen strikes again lmao.
Will buy this used if the review is good otherwise pass

Yeah because the other guys microsoft and nintendo never moneyhat anything( rise of tomb raider, bayonetta)

Seems like the haters are already arrived

Let the hate flows baby !!
 
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Psykodad

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Okay, and what I'm saying is, as slowly as possible now: SE today is a bad developer that makes dogshit. So there's no reason to expect that FF7R will not be dogshit. If, instead, they had faithfully recreated the game that the company made when they did not make dogshit, we could at least applaud the effort.

No need to explain it "as slowly as possible", I just didn't read half of what you wrote.

Anyway, they are recreating it faithfully from what we've seen so far.
You're just like that angry toddler that didn't get his way. :)
 
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Airbus Jr

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No need to explain it "as slowly as possible", I just didn't read half of what you wrote.

Anyway, they are recreating it faithfully from what we've seen so far.
You're just like that angry toddler that didn't get his way. :)

Told you final fantasy fanboys has the most cancerous fanbase of all gamer....

as soon as i saw a new ff7r news drop yesterday i knew this gona happened

Dont even bother visiting youtube comments ...just more headache one after another....the fact this game is a timed exclusive doesnt help either...
 
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wzy

Member
No need to explain it "as slowly as possible", I just didn't read half of what you wrote.

Anyway, they are recreating it faithfully from what we've seen so far.
You're just like that angry toddler that didn't get his way. :)

I think you're trying to have a parade instead of a thread. Why do you pick the fight if you're going to bitch out like this? What kind of worm isn't upset when they don't get what they actually want? This is extremely brand-engaged posting, I have to tell you. The only reason to feel threatened that someone else doesn't like the product is because you secretly realize they're right.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
I never said that, please calm your tits down baby. "King" means the most of all three.

I ve read you comments history seems like theres alot of negative energy going on there that it makes me depressed already

You need to relax ok buddy?

Love you 3000 !
 
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Senhua

Member
I ve read you comments history seems like theres alot of negative energy going there

You need to relax ok buddy?

Love you 3000 !
Thanks for your advice buddy.
And your comments history seems like theres alot of Soy fanbois energy going there too.
you need to relax too buddy.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
Thanks for your advice buddy.
And your comments history seems like theres alot of Soy fanbois energy going there too.
you need to relax too buddy.

Thats the best you got?

Cmon what else you gona say?

This is gona be interesting

Your not actually crying at the moment arent you? Because i can almost taste those sour tears from here
 
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Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Look, I get FF might never go back to turn based combat, I’m sad but there nothing can be done about that but like I said in my last post at very least I wish SE would just commit to make fully action RPG instead making awkward system between real time and turn based. i don't think that’s too much to ask.
 

Psykodad

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I think you're trying to have a parade instead of a thread. Why do you pick the fight if you're going to bitch out like this? What kind of worm isn't upset when they don't get what they actually want? This is extremely brand-engaged posting, I have to tell you. The only reason to feel threatened that someone else doesn't like the product is because you secretly realize they're right.
I'm not trying to do anything but point out that this change has been known for 13 years. At what point do you just accept it and move on?

You know what's funny, btw? I would've been happy if it was turn based too. I'm just happier that it isn't.
I'm not the one complaining about the changes.

Told you final fantasy fanboys has the most cancerous fanbase of all gamer....

as soon as i saw a new ff7r news drop yesterday i knew this gona happened

Dont even bother visiting youtube comments ...just more headache one after another....the fact this game is a timed exclusive doesnt help either...

Lol yeah, if it were up to them, this franchise would've been dead and buried a long time ago due to their conservatism.
 

Senhua

Member
Thats the best you got?

Cmon what else you gona say?

This is gona be interesting

Your not actually crying at the moment arent you? Because i can almost taste those sour tears form here
Of course not, I just don't want to derail the thread because of your love for me and Sony.
Peace Dude.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
Of course not, I just don't want to derail the thread because of your love for me and Sony.
Peace Dude.
Thats it? You dont have anything else to say? You seems like a lovely person to me...it will be very unfortunate if you leave so early dont you think ?
 
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wzy

Member
I'm not trying to do anything but point out that this change has been known for 13 years. At what point do you just accept it and move on?

Uh, hey guy? This is a discussion thread for the remake trailer. If you want the circlejerk it's at r/FFVIIRemake, and even there it's temporary so maybe get in while you can.
 
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Airbus Jr

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God damnit why every final fantasy page always turned into some turned base vs atb circle jerk?

FF7 is on PS1 right ? In other word the original game is old as fuck and needs to be updated

Persistence whining about this will only reveal your age that youre an angry old grandpa yelling at the cloud ffs move on with it will ya

If youre unhapy with the remake you can play the original HD modded FF7 game on PC
 
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wzy

Member
God damnit why every final fantasy page always turned into some turned base vs atb circle jerk?

FF7 is on PS1 right ? In other word the original game is old as fuck and needs to be updated

Persistence whining about this will only reveal your age that youre an angry old grandpa yelling at the cloud ffs move on with it will ya

If youre unhapy with the remake you can play the original HD modded FF7 game on PC

I will do that, and also continue to bitch about it to everyone captive audience I can find as long as you're just holding out the nerve for me to pluck.

But even accepting that the game needs to be "updated", this is a truly stupid way to do it. Here's a really easy question anyone who disagrees with this should be able to answer: why was the original game turn-based? Any guesses? Let's all learn something about game design together.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
I will do that, and also continue to bitch about it to everyone captive audience I can find as long as you're just holding out the nerve for me to pluck.

But even accepting that the game needs to be "updated", this is a truly stupid way to do it. Here's a really easy question anyone who disagrees with this should be able to answer: why was the original game turn-based? Any guesses? Let's all learn something about game design together.
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stickkidsam

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Really dudes c'mon, where's the love?

If you were hoping for the remake to be turn based like the original, I understand feeling really disappointed. It sucks not to enjoy the remake like you hoped. No need for people who are happy with the action combat to shit on those that are feeling the lack of carpet beneath their feet.

There's more within FFVII that you love besides the combat though right? If nothing else you can find some joy in seeing these characters and events get fleshed out in (possibly) even better ways. Think of all the mini games, the locations, the stories untold, the exploration!! There's a massive world being made for us to experience again.

Let's enjoy some hype!

I miss Cloud's original English voice :(
 

GenericUser

Member
Really dudes c'mon, where's the love?

If you were hoping for the remake to be turn based like the original, I understand feeling really disappointed. It sucks not to enjoy the remake like you hoped. No need for people who are happy with the action combat to shit on those that are feeling the lack of carpet beneath their feet.

There's more within FFVII that you love besides the combat though right? If nothing else you can find some joy in seeing these characters and events get fleshed out in (possibly) even better ways. Think of all the mini games, the locations, the stories untold, the exploration!! There's a massive world being made for us to experience again.

Let's enjoy some hype!

I miss Cloud's original English voice :(

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Psykodad

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Here's a really easy question anyone who disagrees with this should be able to answer: why was the original game turn-based? Any guesses? Let's all learn something about game design together.

The simple answer probably lies somewhere between 22 years ago and technical limitations.

Uh, hey guy? This is a discussion thread for the remake trailer. If you want the circlejerk it's at r/FFVIIRemake, and even there it's temporary so maybe get in while you can.
You can discuss whatever you want, whenever you want.
Doesn't mean there won't be people telling you to get over it.
 

Graciaus

Member
Graphically it looks great. Combat system looked awful. If you are going to change the system you can't come with a mediocre replacement. Full action could work. I have little faith it will.
 

Azurro

Banned
It's just a shame that discussions on the actual game can't happen because of people intent on pissing on other's enjoyment.

If it's not mindless botching about how superior and intellectual tb is (so intellectual that 90% of the time is just spamming the attack button, 5% of the time is healing, and the other 5% is where all the "intellectual" stuff happens) and get offended you don't agree...then it's the character design people that criticise ridiculous things ("Barret looks less African! Why does he have an earring! Why is Cloud less confident in when talking to Aeris! Look, in this pic fighting an enemy he looks way more confident!").

It's just tiring.
 
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wzy

Member
The simple answer probably lies somewhere between 22 years ago and technical limitations.

Yeah. Wrong, of course. Here, I'll cross out a few answers out for you: it's not for tactical depth, because FFVII didn't have any of that, as has been pointed out repeatedly over the years.

It's not technical limitations, either. Turn-based combat survived the generational leap even within the series, and besides that there are plenty of action-RPG success stories from that era.

It's not design inertia; SquareSoft redesigned their battle system for every entry in the series going back to the 8-bit entries. Turn-based combat was practically the only thing they kept from one game to the next.

It certainly isn't speed, because I can fight three battles in FFVII before you can finish one in FFXV. Even with all the streamlining and thinning mechanics over the years, the tendency of FF battles has been to get slower, not faster.

I'll even throw in a bonus hint: what's the one thing you cannot do in a real-time game?

You can discuss whatever you want, whenever you want.
Doesn't mean there won't be people telling you to get over it.

Oh, but... you weren't telling me to get over it, remember? You were ready to have the argument, until you switched gears and decided you had some other kind of point to make. Can you kindly not pull this shit in a thread that's like 5 pages long? I remember the post, and the one you quoted. Eight sentences to tell me to get over it? Very suspicious. One could even get the impression that maybe you had to re-arrange the terms a little bit, because otherwise it kind of looks like you were the one bitching idly without any real point to make.
 

Lanrutcon

Member
Guys, I just want to play this before I die and have it be at least marginally good. That's all I want out of life.

And maybe a parrot. Parrots are cool.
 

Psykodad

Banned
Yeah. Wrong, of course. Here, I'll cross out a few answers out for you: it's not for tactical depth, because FFVII didn't have any of that, as has been pointed out repeatedly over the years.

It's not technical limitations, either. Turn-based combat survived the generational leap even within the series, and besides that there are plenty of action-RPG success stories from that era.

It's not design inertia; SquareSoft redesigned their battle system for every entry in the series going back to the 8-bit entries. Turn-based combat was practically the only thing they kept from one game to the next.

It certainly isn't speed, because I can fight three battles in FFVII before you can finish one in FFXV. Even with all the streamlining and thinning mechanics over the years, the tendency of FF battles has been to get slower, not faster.

I'll even throw in a bonus hint: what's the one thing you cannot do in a real-time game?
Apart from you actually not making a case for turn based here, or ignoring the fact that we're talking about FF VII on PS1 back in '97 specifically so they wouldn' t be able to pull off an arpg like they can do nowadays and there was a very different environment in the world of rpgs, I'll bite:

What's the answer?



Oh, but... you weren't telling me to get over it, remember? You were ready to have the argument, until you switched gears and decided you had some other kind of point to make. Can you kindly not pull this shit in a thread that's like 5 pages long? I remember the post, and the one you quoted. Eight sentences to tell me to get over it? Very suspicious. One could even get the impression that maybe you had to re-arrange the terms a little bit, because otherwise it kind of looks like you were the one bitching idly without any real point to make.

Or maybe it was me who needed to explain things "as slowly as possible".
 
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Lanrutcon

Member
Apart from you actually not making a case for turn based here, or ignoring the fact that we're talking about FF VII on PS1 back in '97 specifically so they wouldn' t be able to pull off an arpg like they can do nowadays, I'll bite:
What's the answer?
Or maybe it was me who needed to explain things "as slowly as possible".

If technology was the only factor in determining how games should play then the FF VII remake should be an open world multiplayer game for 50 players with base building, vehicles and dinosaur taming. They couldn't do it then, but they can do it now: so according to you they should.

Your argument is dumb.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Apart from you actually not making a case for turn based here, or ignoring the fact that we're talking about FF VII on PS1 back in '97 specifically so they wouldn' t be able to pull off an arpg like they can do nowadays and there was a very different environment in the world of rpgs, I'll bite:

What's the answer?
You do know there were action RPGs even before FF7 like Tales and Star Ocean.
 

GenericUser

Member
All the voice actors were replaced. Barret's voice is unbearably bad.
Yeah, as I said before, I'm not happy with this new trailer either. The character design and voices were on point years ago, square made everything worse. The way the trailer is cut, gives me the impression that they learned nothing from their past mistakes. If they wanted to make an action game or action roleplay game, why dress it in FF7s cloth? This is not looking good and the more I see, the more I come to believe that this will disappoint old school ff7 fans like myself.

I just hope for square that there are millions and millions of new fans that are willing to buy this game, because I'm sure a lot of older peole are getting turned off by seeing that trailer.
 
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