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hahaha shit. well, at least i can say i know some Era posters were right about this place being a bit of a cesspool.

"safe spaces are for wimps" - says the guy too afraid to post at Era because his views would be torn to shreds. LOL
 

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

privacy and respect of property is the foundation of human civilization? LOL
Well, at least we've cleared up the question as to whether you're qualified to debate or not.

hahaha shit. well, at least i can say i know some Era posters were right about this place being a bit of a cesspool.

"safe spaces are for wimps" - says the guy too afraid to post at Era because his views would be torn to shreds. LOL
Oh no! Please don't discard us like the narcissist you are! Stick around and tell us more about how we are the same as ERA! How can we ever redeem ourselves without your sharp wit and nuanced commentary?
 
Another ERA defender.

Hey, simple question: if a mentally-ill person shouted obscenities at you (or in this case, typed them on a 100% optional social media website and did not direct them at you personally at all), would you think it's appropriate to scream back at them and shame them for their particular choice of obscenities, or ignore them?

The problem with this line of thinking is you're still clinging to the (incorrect) belief that "something bad was said on the internet and I need to pick up my pitchfork and make sure it is properly condemned". In the case of Etika, that behavior likely helped push him over the edge, seeing how he apologized for it yet was still attacked.

You are mixing mentally ill with mentally disabled, he knew what he would he say would garner a response. It's a sad situation where he didn't have people around him stopping him from going into social media. I don't want his death to be an excuse for people to lump up anti Semitic talk as just words that shouldn't receive any reply.

If the fucking thought police left him alone, he might have still been alive. Why do some people have the need to control and judge what other people say? To feel better with their stupid fucking morals and to feel superior and be praised by that stupid hivemind. They are wrong, period.

You are letting your emotions control you, he insulted a group, the group insulted him back. Him having mental issues isn't not something visible when replying to a tweet.
 

NickFire

Member
look at post history: came here initially because someone I know pointed out i was quoted during the Era Etika drama (a friend of mine posts/lurks here). came to clear up a misconception and to point out Era mods made breaking the rules feel like a necessity.

now just posting here and there to feel out whether i want to stick around.
We have a few, but most people don't spend much time digging up post history or giving a darn why someone posts here. If someone has a well known slant on issues that will be batted around at times sure. But in general all we care about here is being able to argue without trying to win the argument by shutting it down. If you aren't sure whether its worth posting here, a simple answer can be found by asking yourself one question. Can my mind allow me to respond to opposing views by engaging the posters or not? If so, you'll have plenty of opportunities to comment, challenge and be challenged.
 

lock2k

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hahaha shit. well, at least i can say i know some Era posters were right about this place being a bit of a cesspool.

"safe spaces are for wimps" - says the guy too afraid to post at Era because his views would be torn to shreds. LOL

Why would I want to post in a Orwellian nightmare kind of forum full of SJW's and idiots? This doesn't make any sense.
 

lock2k

Banned
You are mixing mentally ill with mentally disabled, he knew what he would he say would garner a response. It's a sad situation where he didn't have people around him stopping him from going into social media. I don't want his death to be an excuse for people to lump up anti Semitic talk as just words that shouldn't receive any reply.



You are letting your emotions control you, he insulted a group, the group insulted him back. Him having mental issues isn't not something visible when replying to a tweet.

Emotions? No, I'm completely fine. I was just saying that judging people is like a sport for morons all over the internet. They take pleasure on making others miserable but when it backfires like this it hurts so much. Right?
 

Thabass

Member
hahaha shit. well, at least i can say i know some Era posters were right about this place being a bit of a cesspool.

Unfortunately, it works both ways. There's just as many toxic users on Era. That's why I say I don't blame Era 100%, but anyone who shit on him without knowing his full story is just maddening to me.
 

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
You are mixing mentally ill with mentally disabled, he knew what he would he say would garner a response.
How do you know that? You have an underlying assumption that you know what he was thinking.

And if you have any education on the topic whatsoever, you would already be aware that assuming you know what a mentally ill person is thinking is rather silly. Even professionals struggle to help people with mental illness (obviously).

But yeah, whatever you have to write in your diary (or on GAF) to assuage your conscience.

It's a sad situation where he didn't have people around him stopping him from going into social media. I don't want his death to be an excuse for people to lump up anti Semitic talk as just words that shouldn't receive any reply.
Yes, it would really be a tragedy if mentally ill people were able to spout off whatever words they want without being called out and dogpiled for it. I'm glad you are helping the mental health situation improve via this mob-action.
 
Unfortunately, it works both ways. There's just as many toxic users on Era. That's why I say I don't blame Era 100%, but anyone who shit on him without knowing his full story is just maddening to me.

not going to see me disagreeing. i literally posted here to say "Era is toxic" and in fact that post that got me banned said "Era is becoming a toxic site" - I was told I was being antagonistic, hahaha. ah well.
 

Thabass

Member
not going to see me disagreeing. i literally posted here to say "Era is toxic" and in fact that post that got me banned said "Era is becoming a toxic site" - I was told I was being antagonistic, hahaha. ah well.

Well there thought policing is why I'm mad at them. Their lackadaisical approach to community management is horrendous and then the former community manager's response to actual feedback was horrendous. I'm just done with them.

I think some of the members here on GAF are maybe taking things a little close to the heart here. But, I can't blame them. This situation is shitty all around.
 
all these big talking boys are so disappointing. you think you've finally found a bottom and it turns out they're just repressed hetero beards.

Oh shit, really? Cuz I'm gay too! Doesn't make you any less of a weirdo, loser. Your 15 minutes of whimpered fame is up, buddy. Enjoy GameFAQs.

so you're just afraid of ball gags? goddamn. looks like the search for a real man continues.
 
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DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
not going to see me disagreeing. i literally posted here to say "Era is toxic" and in fact that post that got me banned said "Era is becoming a toxic site" - I was told I was being antagonistic, hahaha. ah well.
Showing up to say "ERA is toxic" then immediately turning around and wagging your finger at the GAF community repeatedly during your follow-up posts is what happened.

But at least you're getting the attention you so desperately crave. I guess that's a win in your eyes. 🤷‍♀️
 
You ever hear of Terry A. Davis? Really smart guy. Made his own operating system from scratch.

Unfortun


"torn to shreds"

You can't tear a view to shreds if you ban any discussion of that view.

some views are so toxic, and some posters so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless. lots of of toxic gaming horseshit has been thoroughly destroyed in lots of public spaces. i don't need to revisit it every time some doofus thinks he's come up with an interesting new take on a perspective that has been around probably since before he was born. some of us have been on the Internet since before AOL existed. there's not much new under the digital sun.

Showing up to say "ERA is toxic" then immediately turning around and wagging your finger at the GAF community repeatedly during your follow-up posts is what happened.

But at least you're getting the attention you so desperately crave. I guess that's a win in your eyes. 🤷‍♀️

awww... i thought you guys were more open minded!
 
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Barnabot

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Showing up to say "ERA is toxic" then immediately turning around and wagging your finger at the GAF community repeatedly during your follow-up posts is what happened.

But at least you're getting the attention you so desperately crave. I guess that's a win in your eyes. 🤷‍♀️
Narcissists gotta do what narcissists gotta do.
 
so you're just afraid of ball gags? goddamn. looks like the search of a real man continues.
Let's not go there, buddy. You want to suck dick for a living? That's your choice but the fact that you define a real man as one willing to wear a ball gag? You really are a weirdo.

N NickFire , no offense but no one asked for your opinion on who won or not. This isn't some playground, so keep your nose out of it.
 

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God damn, this infuriates me.
 
Let's not go there, buddy. You want to suck dick for a living? That's your choice but the fact that you define a real man as one willing to wear a ball gag? You really are a weirdo.

N NickFire , no offense but no one asked for your opinion on who won or not. This isn't some playground, so keep your nose out of it.

so you aren't gay? man. you are confused!

real men in my world absolutely love a ball gag and a good spanking.
 
some views are so toxic, and some posters so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless. lots of of toxic gaming horseshit has been thoroughly destroyed in lots of public spaces. i don't need to revisit it every time some doofus thinks he's come up with an interesting new take on a perspective that has been around probably since before he was born. some of us have been on the Internet since before AOL existed. there's not much new under the digital sun.
and nothing you're doing or saying here is original at all. it's the same song and dance every time.
 

NickFire

Member
"safe spaces are for wimps" - says the guy too afraid to post at Era because his views would be torn to shreds. LOL

You know that post would probably get you banned over there. Inflammatory rhetoric, suggests hive mind community, long history of infractions, account still in junior phase.

You also know its not entirely accurate. They don't tear arguments to shreds from what I've seen. That would require letting people actually argue. Arguing whether someone is both racist and misogynistic, or merely one or the other doesn't really count.
 

Tesseract

Banned
some views are so toxic, and some posters so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless. lots of of toxic gaming horseshit has been thoroughly destroyed in lots of public spaces. i don't need to revisit it every time some doofus thinks he's come up with an interesting new take on a perspective that has been around probably since before he was born. some of us have been on the Internet since before AOL existed. there's not much new under the digital sun.



awww... i thought you guys were more open minded!

this is another way of saying i'm too much of a bitch to argue the point

you are a sanctimonious cock gobbler
 
Emotions? No, I'm completely fine. I was just saying that judging people is like a sport for morons all over the internet. They take pleasure on making others miserable but when it backfires like this it hurts so much. Right?

No one knows anybody on the internet or their background, what most people saw is an internet celebrity having a meltdown and insulting everyone, so they insulted him back.

His death brings a new debate about social media, should everyone be free to insult anyone without receiving a response for the insult they hurl? How can we tell if the person throwing the insults is on the edge and needs to stay away from social media?

How do you know that? You have an underlying assumption that you know what he was thinking.

And if you have any education on the topic whatsoever, you would already be aware that assuming you know what a mentally ill person is thinking is rather silly. Even professionals struggle to help people with mental illness (obviously).

But yeah, whatever you have to write in your diary (or on GAF) to assuage your conscience.


Yes, it would really be a tragedy if mentally ill people were able to spout off whatever words they want without being called out and dogpiled for it. I'm glad you are helping the mental health situation improve via this mob-action.

I don't and neither do you, and for that matter almost everyone who replied to his insults. Some are suggesting we just ignore the insults because they are words, but you are also arguing that words are the reason he killed himself, so are words just words?
 

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
some views are so toxic, and some posters so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless.
At one point, homosexual relationships were considered toxic, supporting them was considered toxic, and those who stood up for gay rights were viewed as "so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless".

The only difference today is that same censorial power is held by different hands. You don't see the contradiction because you are a fascist. Power in the hands of your ideology = inherent good. Power in the hands of your opponents = inherent bad. Your world is so simplistic, it's no wonder you have to join gaming forums to drum up drama.

I don't and neither do you, and for that matter almost everyone who replied to his insults. Some are suggesting we just ignore the insults because they are words, but you are also arguing that words are the reason he killed himself, so are words just words?
Do you not see a distinction between offensive words said by a crazy person to no one in particular and offensive words targeted directly at an individual in a sustained bout of harassment?

Clearly you don't.
 
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Whitesnake

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some views are so toxic, and some posters so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless. lots of of toxic gaming horseshit has been thoroughly destroyed in lots of public spaces. i don't need to revisit it every time some doofus thinks he's come up with an interesting new take on a perspective that has been around probably since before he was born. some of us have been on the Internet since before AOL existed. there's not much new under the digital sun.



awww... i thought you guys were more open minded!

If a view is so easy to disprove or break down, why not let it die on its own? Surely such views would be shunned in a marketplace of discussion, yes?

Actively banning a view and treating as an ever-present threat that could infect others is giving it quite a lot of credit and legitimacy.
 

lock2k

Banned
some views are so toxic, and some posters so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless. lots of of toxic gaming horseshit has been thoroughly destroyed in lots of public spaces. i don't need to revisit it every time some doofus thinks he's come up with an interesting new take on a perspective that has been around probably since before he was born. some of us have been on the Internet since before AOL existed. there's not much new under the digital sun.



awww... i thought you guys were more open minded!

"some views are so toxic, and some posters so resistant to reason, that discussing them is often pointless"

I know a girl that is exactly like that. Whenever she has trouble arguing about something, she just withdraws discussion, simple as that. Ridicule your opponent and take the supposedly moral high ground of ignoring and not responding, because that shows a lot of maturity and intelligence.
 

NickFire

Member
N NickFire , no offense but no one asked for your opinion on who won or not. This isn't some playground, so keep your nose out of it.

No one has really ever asked me for my opinion here, but I still like giving it. And no participation trophy for you on this. Straight talk. If you say suck it, and they say only if you wear a ball gag, you have to come up with something better than weirdo. We apparently have a reputation to uphold, and I expect better from you next time.
 

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NEXT LEVEL lame™
hahaha shit. well, at least i can say i know some Era posters were right about this place being a bit of a cesspool.

"safe spaces are for wimps" - says the guy too afraid to post at Era because his views would be torn to shreds. LOL
People here no longer have that feeling of walking on eggshells whenever they post, and as a result can come off as a bit abrasive, but they mean well. For the most part anyway, some assholes will always be assholes unfortunately. Just don't let it get to you.

Oh shit, really? Cuz I'm gay too! Doesn't make you any less of a weirdo, loser. Your 15 minutes of whimpered fame is up, buddy. Enjoy GameFAQs.
So your Anita stories were just fiction? I don't know what to do anymore...
 
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No one has really ever asked me for my opinion here, but I still like giving it. And no participation trophy for you on this. Straight talk. If you say suck it, and they say only if you wear a ball gag, you have to come up with something better than weirdo. We apparently have a reputation to uphold, and I expect better from you next time.
LOL stop it, dude. Do you think I was willing to go down that rabbit hole and find something "wittier" to say back? The dude is a weirdo for saying what he said. Remember, just because you think that wasn't a "better reply" doesn't make it factual. I'll wait on the other members to judge whether my reply was "better" if they even give a shit :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Yes, it would really be a tragedy if mentally ill people were able to spout off whatever words they want without being called out and dogpiled for it. I'm glad you are helping the mental health situation improve via this mob-action.

My take is that people that spout off shitty things should expect blowback. Mentally ill or not, people that use slurs or what not are going to get blowback from from people who get upset by such things. Mentally ill or not, some feminist or "SJW" type rants off some shit that upsets people on the other side, they're going to get dog piled on other sites that lean the other direction. That's just the nature of the beast when sharing extreme views or things that some find offensive in public spaces. Not everyone is going to give people a pass because they have mental illness, and most probably just see whatever content generated the uproar and aren't aware of a person's issues that may be related to their behavior. People should be careful in what they share and not dropping lame ass hot takes left and right for likes/upvotes/donations. Forums are just exhausting as hell anymore with so many people seeming to have a need to have ridiculously strong opinions on fucking everything and share them as brashly as possible so they get attention. But I digress...

Where this got way out of hand on ERA to me was not the backlash from the shitty things he said, it was all the lack of empathy and belief toward his suicidal posts, dismissing it as a stunt from a bigot (in their views) with many people probably hoping he went through with it just to have one less bigot out there. That's just disgusting behavior, and very hypocritical for a site who claims to be a welcoming safe space and has an active mental health community thread and so on to have allowed that thread to exist and for a mod to have been posting that kind of garbage in it. One can think someone is a shitty person with shitty views and still wish for them to get the help they need for any mental or physical issues they have.

I hate the word toxic, but there's a ton of assholes in the gaming community and online communities in general and they're not exclusive to or even more prevalent on one side or the other IMO. Everything is just so goddamn tribal and us vs. them in more. Era is constant screeching about bigots and wrong think, sites like this have people constantly screeching about feminists and SJWs and so on. And I suppose it makes sense as gaming communities were always very tribal and hostile with all the fanboys fighting with fanboys of different platforms so as the political/social issue stuff got brought in that hostility just expanded to the various sides of those issues as well. Trolling and shit talking have always been super common in gaming and sports as well, so that's more gas on the fire as those types take advantage of the current hostility by saying and doing things just to get a rise out of people on the other side. It's exhausting, but thankfully has led me to cutting back my online presence and participation dramatically this year (recent uptick while recovering from surgery aside).
 
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