Spukc
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With 6 different 3ds models
Stating there wont be a pro switch model is just fing stupid
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Nintendo Switch Lite announced
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Stating there wont be a pro switch model is just fing stupid
We could agree if the normal Switch was going away but it isn't.
This time yesterday a potential Nintendo Switch owner had one choice (we wont bother counting color options, bundles etc).
Today that same potential owner has 2 choices. There is no "reduced options".
Fair enough. If someone already owns a Switch and enjoys the docked mode or even just enjoys having the choice then I don't see the Lite version as a good investment for them. They already own a Switch though so...
Nintendo Switch with detachable joy cons, dock, playing on TV etc already exists.
They come out with an alternative option and people are wound up because it's not the same as the original? Surely you just buy the original then?
Pimpbaa
Member
Glad I didn't wait for this (no tv out). But I can see how it could appeal to portable only gamers and those who can't afford the standard Switch. This is definitely going to be massive in Japan (and possibly in the western market with it's lower price). A shit ton more Switch gamers means even more 3rd party developers are doing to want a piece of the Switch pie, well Japanese developers at least. Might see more downgraded ports from ps4/xb1 games from western developers but nothing made for the Switch which is frustrating and disappointing.
Listen up, genius - I already own a Switch.
Would you please quit the conversational acrobatics for one second and understand the crux of my complaint?
If all the features are in there already to have HDMI out, and Nintendo went out of their way to software disable HDMI to make their Switch vanilla have an artificially higher feature list to justify the additional $100, would it not bother you?
And if it does not bother you, that's great - but it bothers me and i hope I put it in clear enough terms to explain why it bothers me.
Trimesh
Banned
Getting rid of the TV out makes perfect sense to me - on the original Switch, it's not just a connection, it's a whole alternate operating mode for the main CPU. So if you lose the video out, then you can design the whole thing on the basis that it's always going to be running in the reduced power handheld mode and you can use a smaller power delivery system and less cooling.
I also suspect this model is using the new die shrunk Tegra that's mentioned in some of the recent nVidia code releases, and if so would be dissipating less power on that basis, too. It's even possible that the combination of mobile only mode and the revised SoC may enable it to be a fanless design.
Obviously, this is speculation - but suggesting there are no technical reasons they might want to lose the video out is just wrong.
Petrae
Member
Nope. It’s really not that much smaller, so it’s still not going to fit in my pocket— so it’s still going to require carrying a bag or backpack when I want to play games on the go. That’s pointless for me, when I have a 3DS, DS Lite, GBA SP, and/or a phone that already play games and don’t require extra baggage to transport. Being restricted to the shittier Handheld Mode (gimped performance) isn’t a selling point, either.
I'm not sure why a die shrink would affect what is likely a key component of the architecture - TV Out. If it turns out the new Shield also has no HDMI out and so the feature is not simply soft-disabled by Nintendo, I'll recant.
But right now this whole thing smells like the Wii U's inability to launch Gamecube games.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That's the whole point on why it's cheaper.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
A PRODUCT that sells a shit ton of copies is objectively not a pointless or bad idea for the people that sold it. The product has achieved its primary goal; sell. If you needed qualification in my statement I'm talking about Nintendo here, not Joe Consumer.
Understandable that you can't dock this, it is probably not designed to disppate heat the way the regular switch does. The more efficient processor keeps heat down and allows them to remove cooling elements and thus shrink the size/cost.
What I don't understand is why they didn't announce the DX version alongside this.
What I don't understand is why they didn't announce the DX version alongside this.
Newly Vacant
Member
I'm going to buy the inevitable Zelda-themed version when it's announced. I like the idea of having a portable-only Switch, in addition to one that's primarily docked. I wonder if Animal Crossing is going to support cloud-saves? Hmm, how hard is transferring saves back and forth on games that don't support cloud saves?
CeroFrio996
Banned
I do think I'd be more interested in it if I could sync saves for stuff like smash, pokemon, and animal crossing. OG switch is a little bulky, so if I was bringing it to work or something to play on my break I think the lite would be nice.
That said could you do that with cloud saves?
prag16
Banned
If it is successful, that also likely means it will have heavily cannibalized og Switch sales, which needs to be considered. And then subsequently what percentage of Switch lite buyers will eventually realize they would rather have had the og Switch. And even then some of the design decisions were questionable. If it supported TV out or pro controllers they could have increased accessory sales, but they didn't want any of that apparently.
Mozza
Member
CeroFrio996
Banned
I didn't read anywhere that it doesn't support pro controllers, and you can link up joy cons so why would you assume it wont function with other controllers?
zenspider
Member
Three systems in current production? I highly doubt that rumor, especially with Nintendo recently discussing plans to move manufacturing from China.
kingwingin
Member
That was disappointing. I'll wait and see for the pro
iconmaster
Banned
If we look at the actual evidence for a Switch DX or Switch Pro, it's really pretty thin.
Some analysts guessed it might happen, and they managed to guess the Lite model. But even Pachter got that one, it was such an obviously smart move for Nintendo to do. What got everyone going was when Wall Street Journal claimed it'd heard reports of three different Switch models from Nintendo's supply chain. So that's vanilla Switch, Lite and a third variant -- if they're correct. But that third model could be a Switch Nano, for all we know.
Takashi Mochizuki (of the WSJ) only specified that one model “will have enhanced features targeted at avid videogamers." Well, that could mean anything: a better screen, more battery life, more onboard storage.
I've been wrong before, certainly. I was sure Banjo would never make it into Smash.
But I think the Switch Pro is more of a fanboy dream than reality.
Paulistano
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zenspider
Member
I might be wrong, but wouldn't there be some hardware component to a video out? Even if it's just a chip, it'd not a software lock to 'gimp' the Lite.
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Vader1
Unconfirmed Member
I’ll be sticking with the original. Never use portable mode anyway.
prag16
Banned
You're right it apparently does support Pro controllers. Though the usefulness of them would be more compelling if there was a TV out mode.
Fbh
Member
The main objective of most products is to sell well and generate revenue.
If a product manages to get great sales and make a lot of money it's not dumb or stupid and it means the manufacturer made something the market wanted and that through design, marketing or whatever other reason managed to appeal to consumers.
Some people around here are too fixated on the Switch "Pro" that would have a real but probably way more limited audience than this thing. Because lets be real, of the 10 million + people that will buy Pokemon Sword/Shield at the end of the year, how many truly give a crap at what resolution and framerate its running at?
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Terrible_Majesty
Member
Launch day purchase justified for once..
I feel like this will sell like hot cakes..in Japan. This won’t be as successful in the west.
I feel like this will sell like hot cakes..in Japan. This won’t be as successful in the west.
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cireza
Member
This was the most predictable announcement ever.
It looks like the console is still using active cooling lol, so my guess is that they aren't even using a smaller revision of the Tegra.
This thing is on the cheap side, pretty sure that they could have used the space around the screen in a much better way. It is actually quite ugly to have this huge border.
Can't be plugged on a TV because handheld mode on TV would look like total shit, obviously.
With a 5.5 screen, they could have made a smaller console, if they had tried. But this design looks like it was driven by "make the most money possible".
It looks like the console is still using active cooling lol, so my guess is that they aren't even using a smaller revision of the Tegra.
This thing is on the cheap side, pretty sure that they could have used the space around the screen in a much better way. It is actually quite ugly to have this huge border.
Can't be plugged on a TV because handheld mode on TV would look like total shit, obviously.
With a 5.5 screen, they could have made a smaller console, if they had tried. But this design looks like it was driven by "make the most money possible".
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prag16
Banned
Seriously. Launch price still in effect almost 2.5 years later with no price drop until AT LEAST next year since any drop this year would cannibalize the Lite model.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
Oh no they are cannibalizing themselves, instead of selling more Switches they will be selling other Switches. It’s madness. Those are potential Switch sales going to a Switch instead of purchases of a Switch. How will they survive? /s
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DESTROYA
Member
Really don’t get why people are mad about a cheaper lite model, it’s cheaper because it losses some features but the biggest complaints I hear are no TV out. How the hell are you going to use this “docked” for TV out if the joycons aren’t detachable? Buy a Switch Pro controller that would just add to what your spending on it any way . Last time I checked Pro controllers go for like $60-$70 so if you want TV out just buy the OG model.
OG Switch = $300
Switch lite + pro controller = $ 260/$270
So you guys are bitching about a $30-$40 difference, that’s like what I spend a week on my morning coffee.
I will say the lite version is not for me and the colors in my opinion are ugly but I’m aboard hoping for a pro version with bigger screen and more power.
OG Switch = $300
Switch lite + pro controller = $ 260/$270
So you guys are bitching about a $30-$40 difference, that’s like what I spend a week on my morning coffee.
I will say the lite version is not for me and the colors in my opinion are ugly but I’m aboard hoping for a pro version with bigger screen and more power.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
You're out of your entire damn mind if you think selling this thing with TV out wouldn't kill the regular model dead in the water.
Codes 208
Member
Oh without a doubt, releasing it alongside zelda and eventually pokemon,
This is gonna be a 2ds 2.0
Hell, im thinking of getting that gray one
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iconmaster
Banned
Codes 208
Member
I personally prefer jet black but thats what modding is for
prag16
Banned
Nah if this hypothetically had TV-out it'd likely still be limited to "handheld mode" in terms of graphics. And you're still losing the detachable joy-cons, rumble, etc. It also doesn't include a dock (or simplified dock 'dongle'... a $70 dock would be a very tough sell).
Less importantly, the color options are ass.
iconmaster
Banned
Short answer: yes; but here are the details -- https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22448
prag16
Banned
Off topic. But the fact that Star Wars is ranked #9 is an embarrassment and a testament to Disney's severe mismanagement of the brand.Probably true. What does Nintendo really have for that market?
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Deleted member 752119
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I don’t think they’ll make it more expensive. They’ll make it $300 and drop the base to $250 (or maybe stop making it).
But yeah, basically a small New 3DS like bump that lets them keep price (and profit) margins up. That’s my best guess anyway.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's the opposite. That's the complete opposite of what I want 
Gimme a Switch with decent hardware next time, plz.
Gimme a Switch with decent hardware next time, plz.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
No. Only some things like 1-2 Switch (mostly a tech demo) make any type of gameplay usage out of it. Otherwise it’s just rumble like any other controller. Maybe more derailed but aren’t really going to notice a difference.