AnotherOne
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Is LG E8 Oled good for gaming?
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Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.
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Ulysses 31
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Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.
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JohnnyFootball
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Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.
Before anyone gets bothered by this, please for the love of god make sure you read the article and look at the other pictures instead of this one. These are extreme cases where the same image remains static for 20 hours. Nothing remotely close to mimicking real world use. Nobody should spend the money to get an OLED if they're going to watch CNN (or anything with static logos) all day.
Manstructiclops
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Update 05/31/2019: The TVs have now been running for over 9000 hours (around 5 years at 5 hours every day). Uniformity issues have developed on the TVs displaying Football and FIFA 18, and are starting to develop on the TV displaying Live NBC. Our stance remains the same, we don't expect most people who watch varied content without static areas to experience burn-in issues with an OLED TV.
I'm good, I don't use my displays like an air traffic controller.
It's not that at all, it's the fact that Samsung FUD straight from their marketing department is doing the rounds. We went through this shit with plasma.
People shit their pants over barely existent plasma image retention whilst ignoring the bigger problems of that technology, mainly the phosphor trailing (which I was sensitive to).
It just blows my mind that we've gone through 20 odd years of LCD putting out backlight bleed, dogshit uniformity, smeary motion blur, subpar contrast, and the disaster that was WLED displays which put picture quality back 5 years over the prior CCFL and which actually fucking killed our eyesight and circadian rhythm!
LCD ain't bad, it's actually a remarkably resiliant and versatile technology. But lets have some fucking perspective here.
OLED black levels are revelatory, and the pixel response is superb. And all consumer grade displays have massive issues and you're going to risk a panel lottery. It's just how it is, the unicorn does not exist. I guarantee you that Micro-LED will have it's own bullshit to contend with.
I'm good, I don't use my displays like an air traffic controller.
OLED is LED also.
And what's with this OLED or nothing attitude? Only a sith deals in absolutes.
Don't know what you're smoking or just being hyperbolic but I found the QLED I'm using to be great for gaming and movie watching after going through the picture settings.
It's not that at all, it's the fact that Samsung FUD straight from their marketing department is doing the rounds. We went through this shit with plasma.
People shit their pants over barely existent plasma image retention whilst ignoring the bigger problems of that technology, mainly the phosphor trailing (which I was sensitive to).
It just blows my mind that we've gone through 20 odd years of LCD putting out backlight bleed, dogshit uniformity, smeary motion blur, subpar contrast, and the disaster that was WLED displays which put picture quality back 5 years over the prior CCFL and which actually fucking killed our eyesight and circadian rhythm!
LCD ain't bad, it's actually a remarkably resiliant and versatile technology. But lets have some fucking perspective here.
OLED black levels are revelatory, and the pixel response is superb. And all consumer grade displays have massive issues and you're going to risk a panel lottery. It's just how it is, the unicorn does not exist. I guarantee you that Micro-LED will have it's own bullshit to contend with.
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Rbk_3
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The difference between 21ms and 14ms really isn't that big of a deal. The cost of the B8/C8 vs the C9 is too much to justify at the moment at least in Canada.
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The higher end led tv actually compete nicely, with no risk of burn in, and are also actually brighter which is useful for the hdr. Oled cant be beat for ultimate speed and contrast, but the gap between that and say a sony 900 series is smaller than most led haters will admit.
Vrr may be useful in the future, but currently it's as useful as hdmi 4.0 - there are no mainstream consoles that currently use it.
Vrr may be useful in the future, but currently it's as useful as hdmi 4.0 - there are no mainstream consoles that currently use it.
Rhazer Fusion
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Micro LEDs so far from what I’ve seen and heard could end up costing as much as a decent sized house and might not be able to even fit in one. Seems like Micro LED is still a long way from being affordable. Also, I think some of them are still in 1080p from what I’ve heard.
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allangelsgone
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Yeah, NO!
I used to be an OLED evangelist myself three years ago when I bought the B6. I used all the correct settings with pixel refresh and no exaggerated settings. Six months later I had a morning sun from a news program that I watched about an hour a day permanently shadowed in.
LG replaced it of course with a C7 and I was very pleased. Worked great for almost two years as well but last month I had a shadow appear in the middle only visibel when red, yellow, purple tones appeared. LG once again did the right thing and gave me a new panel.
Now you might say I was unlucky and should blame myself for my "carelessness" but how come LG went along with these replacements and repairs if this was all my fault.
Personally I'm considering a move back to LED because I think more of these reports will come now that OLED is going mainstream which may hurt the resale value of my just repaired OLED. Not to mention if I get another problem with my current panel I'll be out of warranty and good luck reselling it then. I spent around $1700 on the TV three years ago and I think that's a lot of money for a TV to go wrong so soon twice.
Short version: Stop being a shill for LG blaming consumers for "carelessness" when the technology obviously has margins of error within it like every other.
Rhazer Fusion
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I heard they are working on 40” to 50” inch OLEDs. I know I heard about the 40”, but I think they are creating a 50” or something a little under it as well. I think they will be out possibly next year?
JohnnyFootball
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nobody is arguing that the potential for burn in doesn't exist. But it is rare and when it does happen it is most likely is the result of carelessness. For your one horror story there are 100s of others with no issues. If you're an individual who is gonna use a TV to play one game with static hub elements and/or watch one TV station then an OLED is probably not for you. But if you're someone who uses the TV for gaming, movies, Netflix, sports, then burn in is extremely unlikely. I've had an OLED for over a year and the only real knock I have on it is the noticeable stutter in 24fps film content. I've put in multiple 40+ hours games with static hub elements and have not noticed any image retention let alone burn in. I am actually shocked at how resilient it has been. I put in some LONG Dark Souls 1 and 3 sessions and figured I would have seen something. Maybe I have the best of the best in the panel lottery.
Don't call me an LG shill when I would happily recommend a Sony or (for those in Europe) a Panasonic OLED as well. Although at the moment, the C9 is the only OLED with HDMI 2.1 support and gets my top recommendation.
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Ulysses 31
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Xbox One S/X is not mainstream? 0o
JohnnyFootball
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The Xbox One X supports it at framerates between 40-60 fps, but since so few games have an unlocked multiplier it is virtually not being used.
Badlucktroll
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You are right. https://www.whathifi.com/us/news/you-will-soon-be-able-to-buy-a-48-inch-oled-tv
And the smaller OLED Tvs will also have HDMI 2.1 as well i bet. I want a 40 to 48 inch Sony or LG oled. I will buy it as soon as it releases.
JohnnyFootball
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This article was published in march and so far there has been no other info.
With IFA and CEDIA around the corner, it's possible we will get info then.
Ulysses 31
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To my understand it's games with a 60 fps target that don't 100% hit that target that will have a benefit and there's quite a lot of 60 fps games on Xbox One so it's far from virtually none? 0o
JohnnyFootball
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Most of them are at a locked 60 fps and rarely dip below that such that VRR would be noticeably beneficial.