Damian black
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Hou really have no clue about what youre talking about.
When it comes to AAA titles from western studios, they are just shills.
They always praise the good and ignore downgrades on physics and interactivity.
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Crowbcat - Gears 5 lacks weight and intensity
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Hou really have no clue about what youre talking about.
When it comes to AAA titles from western studios, they are just shills.
They always praise the good and ignore downgrades on physics and interactivity.
Von Hugh
Member
Found Cliffy B.
GymWolf
Member
Digital foundry lost me when they talked about face expression and polygonal models being on the same level of the best in the market...
Old man secondary npc on gears5 (they fucking wasted even my boy baird into a bald scientist ffs)
Female main protagonist on g5
Female secondary npc on a 4 years old game
In one game they look almost human, in the other they look like plastic dolls created by a person who doesn't even know basic human proportions...
On par, fucking lol...
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Tiamat2san
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If you want « classic » gears levels and all shit blowing everywhere vibe, you’ll have it in act IV.
I loved this campaign , 6 won’t come soon enough.
The glitches are terrible though.
I loved this campaign , 6 won’t come soon enough.
The glitches are terrible though.
Dada55000
Member
lol, it's a 22 minute video, NPCs only show up after 18 minutes. Cheers, you did the thing you're salty at him about. Also, shit tier meme complaint, "buh, wuh about DR1 AI BAD", no matter what aspect of DR is being discussed or compared between entries, somebody rushes to be the first to say that. Which you also just did, when talking about a video thats purpose was to compare interactivity and reactivity. AI pathfinding spazzing out at times is really relevant to that.
Jon Neu
Banned
Digital foundry lost me when they talked about face expression and polygonal models being on the same level of the best in the market...
Old man secondary npc on gears5 (they fucking wasted even my boy baird into a bald scientist ffs)
Old man secondary npc on a 4 years old game
Female main protagonist on g5
Female secondary npc on a 4 years old game
In one game they look almost human, in the other they look like plastic dolls created by a person who doesn't even know basic human proportions...
On par, fucking lol...
Weird choice of screenshots.
This are literal photos of the game ingame, and it looks clearly superior to Uncharted 4.
This is how the characters models look in cutscenes. Again, clearly superior to Uncharted 4.
GymWolf
Member
weird choice?Weird choice of screenshots.
This are literal photos of the game ingame, and it looks clearly superior to Uncharted 4.
This is how the characters models look in cutscenes. Again, clearly superior to Uncharted 4.
and old secondary npc against an old secondary npc both from cutscene, if you have a more clean photo of doc baird just post it here because i can't find anything...
how about the other confrontation between the protagonist of the game against a chara with maybe 2 hours of screentime? is that a weird choice too?
marcus is by far the best face on gears5 (with bald jd close second),i'll give you that but the rest of the cast is inconsistent at best.
and i don't think is more detailed than drake tbh
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GymWolf
Member
the art style doesn't do any favor to the graphics...
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I disagree. 60fps at least for me is always preferred. Not only does it look more fluid, but the controls imo are the most responsive they have ever been. Besides, I don’t think frame rate would have much to do with the sound design and intensity of the impact.
MMaRsu
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The video isn’t wrong. Everything feels fake in 5 and it’s just weird. I’m enjoying my time with the game but it’s pulled me out of the experience several times.
That and I miss the dude bro essence of gears. Dudebro mixed with action horror was a great combo. Now it’s a feelydudes with chick action drama and that’s just not gears.
That and I miss the dude bro essence of gears. Dudebro mixed with action horror was a great combo. Now it’s a feelydudes with chick action drama and that’s just not gears.
The game could still be good even with the addon story. A lot of the time I feel like the story is a big problem with 5&4. It’s just fucking boring. Like you can make cash ins that are still good games.
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PharaoTutAnchAmun
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No, they pushed for 4K AND 60fps, and than you must cut out a lot cous the hardware is to weak to deliver 4K and 60fps and highly detailed graphics, you cant have them all...because of the hardware.
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Butz
Banned
It's not a native 4k. As far as I understood it DF said that the post processing effects are at 4k, while everything else is dynamic, going as low as 1500p sometimes.
TLZ
Banned
Riven326
Banned
The comparison doesn't make sense anyway. One game is going for photorealism while the other is more science fiction. As for detail, the number of polygons, etc, I'd say they're about even.weird choice?
and old secondary npc against an old secondary npc both from cutscene, if you have a more clean photo of doc baird just post it here because i can't find anything...
how about the other confrontation between the protagonist of the game against a chara with maybe 2 hours of screentime? is that a weird choice too?
marcus is by far the best face on gears5 (with bald jd close second),i'll give you that but the rest of the cast is inconsistent at best.
and i don't think is more detailed than drake tbh
Jon Neu
Banned
You just conveniently pick whatever you want to pick, we could easily play that game all day.
Easy peasy.
At the end of the day, Gears 5 looks better. Without even taking in mind that it has double the framerate and almost double the resolution.
I just had a flashback reading your post, because this is literally what people said when Uncharted 4 released.
Isn't ironic?
Winters_Solace
Member
Nothing wrong with the "shtick" if its a valid comparison, which this is. But yes this video felt a lot more lazily done than his others.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Lonely_Wolf1886
Neo Member
I am finally happy people are knowing about digital foundry deceiving gears video. "Best PC port" biggest lie, the game constantly crashes and stutters like hell. I am sure they are getting paid by Microsoft . if people want real technical and graphical analysis they should check out NXGAMER in youtube.
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GymWolf
Member
Butz
Banned
This game just has reaaaally bad lighting, standing under a lightbulb and the characters are super dark. I don't get why people praise this game, at least tech-wise.Really tempted of posting this thing on the df topic on era and get a glorious ban
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GymWolf
Member
Lol are you serious?You just conveniently pick whatever you want to pick, we could easily play that game all day.
Easy peasy.
At the end of the day, Gears 5 looks better. Without even taking in mind that it has double the framerate and almost double the resolution.
I just had a flashback reading your post, because this is literally what people said when Uncharted 4 released.
Isn't ironic?
I picked similar screenshot with similar iq in similar situation with similar characters on screen...
Just accept that 4kinda (not native) and 60 fps on console with shitty hardware don't come without a lot of sacrifices and that gears is just a great looking game that doesn't blow any mind outside of xbox stans or digital fuckery and their "professionals" videos...
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Butz
Banned
You just conveniently pick whatever you want to pick, we could easily play that game all day.
Easy peasy.
At the end of the day, Gears 5 looks better. Without even taking in mind that it has double the framerate and almost double the resolution.
I just had a flashback reading your post, because this is literally what people said when Uncharted 4 released.
Isn't ironic?
Otterz4Life
Member
Enough of the console warring.
Xbox games really trigger the ponies lol
CoNsPiRaCy hurrrrdurrrf
CoNsPiRaCy hurrrrdurrrf
Butz
Banned
Nah, I didn't agree with DF when they were calling GoW the best looking game of 2018 either.
DF in general are just overly positive all the time, they never really criticize anything or if there's something that isn't so great they try their hardest to make it sound impressive.
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CyberPanda
Banned
DF just wants clicks I guess.
I've been reading blurbusters.com articles for a long time, so my education level(in terms of framerate/hertz/motion resolution analysis) is enough.
Can you say same about yourself?
iconmaster
Banned
Gears of War 2 was so very good. Almost too good.
Gears of 5's action doesn't look bad, it just doesn't meet the high bar set by its predecessors.
Gears of 5's action doesn't look bad, it just doesn't meet the high bar set by its predecessors.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
"we lack weight and intensity, but make up for it with good fundamentals"
Helios
Member
I'm coming here from the prospective as someone that hasn't played any GoW but found the video interesting. Some of the complaints are a miss. Excessive camera shakes for the sake of making the gun feel heavier is annoying as fuck. I am also glad that the industry moved from having gray/brown games too.
The rest of the complaints are fair. Especially the destructible environments.
The rest of the complaints are fair. Especially the destructible environments.
MMaRsu
Banned
Yes, because your "observation" about 60fps being bad for sp games is something only a moron would say.
Maybe you have a problem with your eyes or something
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TraceTheTong
Member
I dont understand why people are having a pissing contest in this thread.
The video clearly shows the animation and fx work is more intense and has more impact in GoW 2 than in 5. I can see this plain as day and I hate GoW no matter console. What is there to fight about.
The video clearly shows the animation and fx work is more intense and has more impact in GoW 2 than in 5. I can see this plain as day and I hate GoW no matter console. What is there to fight about.
Jon Neu
Banned
lol
The funny thing is that you are serious.
You just have to accept that Gears 5 is graphically better than Uncharted 4 while at the same time doubling it in resolution and fps. Both the PS4 and the Xbox One are shitty hardware, so at the end of the day depends on the sacrifices and the quality of the work the developers do, and oh boy, The Coalition have delivered a freaking gem of a game that already beats the Sony exclusives while also making less sacrifices that those Sony exclusives do (60 fps, almost double the resolution, the best implementation of HDR to date, espectacular image quality...).
It's okay, you just have to wait till The Last Of Us II.
Things can have color and you can have flowers and bright leaves, etc. and still have a dark game.... Gears of War 1 and 2 basically nailed the destroyed beauty they were going for. Since then, to me they went into a very generic art design direction. Gears of War was actually more going towards the semi-horror game during development.
"Destroyed Beauty" - A Look Into The Art and Story Behind Gears of War
Released months before the actual game it has more insight into the Gears of War storyline than the game itself and a decent enough prelude,...
thebackbuffer.blogspot.com
GymWolf
Member
Agree to disagree my friend, but hey if you like human models that looks like plastic dolls with the ugliest art style ever and you realistically think that 4k60 doesn't come with huge sacrifices on console, who am i to criticize other peoples tastes or wrong ideas?
And i really don't have to wait for nothing because there is already a shitload of games that looks better than gears5
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GamingKaiju
Member
I'm enjoying gears 5. Yeh it is different from the first 3 but it couldn't stay the same it needed to evolve, besides I can't complain I get to play it early for £1
Not sure if the fanboy posts are satire or not I think my sarcasm detector is faulty.
Not sure if the fanboy posts are satire or not I think my sarcasm detector is faulty.
SirKicksalot
Member
Gears 2 made character movement kinda more limber but most of the more agile movement happened in Gears 3 mostly. People kept bitching about how slow character movement felt in Gears 1 and 2 so Epic made character movement much more limber. I remember the devs talking about it when Gears 3 was at E3. That's also when they put in the quick dodge animations.
The animations to get into cover, roadie run and out of roadie run are much shorter in gears 3 than gears 1 and 2. As well as the turning animations while standing.
People used to bitch that character movement felt "too tanky" in early Gears and that's why they changed it. That's a big part of the reason why people say it "lacks weight". So I don't blame em cause it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" thing.
The sound design changes on weapons is boggling but that's not a Gears 5 exclusive thing, the lancer and other weapons sounded muffled in Gears 3 as well.
All the guns in Gears 2 sounded LOUD. I prefer the way Gears 2 weapons sounded as well but like I said earlier that started in Gears 3.
Well I guess I'll never know because the fucking shit that is 360 region account management means I can't activate the keys. I wasted the whole fucking afternoon trying to unfuck this shit and ended up getting a refund. I'm mad as hell and I hope Gears and Microsoft burn in hell forever.
I DIDN'T EVEN LIKE GEARS 4
Jon Neu
Banned
Dude, have you looked at the screenshot of Sully you posted? He looks like a plastic doll; blurry and cartoony.
Apart from the obviously different worlds both games are set in, the characters in Uncharted don't look more human than the ones in Gears.
We are not talking about Horizon Zero Dawn here.
Every game ever is made with sacrifices and compromises. But again, the funny thing here is that Gears 5 looks better than any Sony exclusive while at the same time having made less sacrifices. There's no 30 fps here, there are no horizontal black bars occupying 30% of the screen, there is no 1440p dynamic resolution.
I'm sorry you have to deflect and cope in this manner because of the game. Again, you just have to wait till The Last of Us II is released.
bilderberg
Member
nothing about this video is wrong. DF shilled hard for this game. Greatest pc port my ass, it's like these people never played RE5 or Devil May Cry.
GymWolf
Member
Horizon worst art style than gears saga?
Now i really heard everything and i can die peacefully...
And i don't really have to cope for everything, i have every console at home and i play the fuck i want from any devs and publishers, i'm playing gears of doll right now on my pc you know?!
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Jon Neu
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LaughingStock
Member
This console wars thing is so cringe.