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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Fake

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Hope Sony remove AMD from PS5 and put Intel and Nvidia for run Control with RTX because that DF thread its a damage Control.
 
mckmas8808

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~Fake said:
Hope Sony remove AMD from PS5 and put Intel and Nvidia for run Control with RTX because that DF thread its a damage Control.
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mango drank

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A general question: with the next-gen consoles probably outputting native 4K by default, does this mean if the user chooses to output to 1080p in the console's display settings, that the framerate will skyrocket? Or do you think the console will still render at 4K internally but just downsample, instead of changing its internal resolution to 1080?

How do current consoles handle this? (E.g., switching from 1080 output to 720. Does framerate go up, or it just downsamples?)
 
bitbydeath

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brohmbel said:
A general question: with the next-gen consoles probably outputting native 4K by default, does this mean if the user chooses to output to 1080p in the console's display settings, that the framerate will skyrocket? Or do you think the console will still render at 4K internally but just downsample, instead of changing its internal resolution to 1080?

How do current consoles handle this? (E.g., switching from 1080 output to 720. Does framerate go up, or it just downsamples?)
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There’s been a lot of arguments over it but I still believe:
GPU = Resolution
CPU = Framerate

Which was also further backed up when the Pro and X released. Framerates didn’t improve or stabilise because the CPU remained the same.
 
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brohmbel said:
A general question: with the next-gen consoles probably outputting native 4K by default, does this mean if the user chooses to output to 1080p in the console's display settings, that the framerate will skyrocket? Or do you think the console will still render at 4K internally but just downsample, instead of changing its internal resolution to 1080?

How do current consoles handle this? (E.g., switching from 1080 output to 720. Does framerate go up, or it just downsamples?)
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PS4 Pro offers an option to disable SSAA, while XB1X doesn't. Maybe PS5 will offer the same option.

RDR2 at 1080p gets rock solid 30 fps.

bitbydeath said:
There’s been a lot of arguments over it but I still believe:
GPU = Resolution
CPU = Framerate

Which was also further backed up when the Pro and X released. Framerates didn’t improve or stabilise because the CPU remained the same.
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If the game is GPU-bound, then it gets 60 fps on Pro/X.
 
mckmas8808

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brohmbel said:
A general question: with the next-gen consoles probably outputting native 4K by default, does this mean if the user chooses to output to 1080p in the console's display settings, that the framerate will skyrocket? Or do you think the console will still render at 4K internally but just downsample, instead of changing its internal resolution to 1080?

How do current consoles handle this? (E.g., switching from 1080 output to 720. Does framerate go up, or it just downsamples?)
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I'm not sure you should be betting on that.
 
mckmas8808

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Boss Key said:
You would think with dev kits out in the wild we would know a lot more by now. I mean last gen we had a leak with full system specs at this point in time.
I guess the NDA must read something like if you even think about talking about next get you forfeit your soul or something.
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There's no other way to keep this many things secret, but to do what you said lol. Maybe it's because Sony and MS have talked about the general console already, that it's making devs not feel the need to leak?
 
Boss Key

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mckmas8808 said:
There's no other way to keep this many things secret, but to do what you said lol. Maybe it's because Sony and MS have talked about the general console already, that it's making devs not feel the need to leak?
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It must be a combination of both and I would assume breaking NDA must mean getting fired/black listed from the industry. But even then some people can't keep a secret.
 
mango drank

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mckmas8808 said:
I'm not sure you should be betting on that.
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Good, doesn't matter either way to me :messenger_grinning_squinting: I don't plan on buying a 4K / HDR TV for a couple years at least. My 1080 is still just fine. I was really asking because of that: it would be sweet to be able to lower the internal resolution and get a solid 60-120 fps on 1080
 
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brohmbel said:
Good, doesn't matter either way to me :messenger_grinning_squinting: I don't plan on buying a 4K / HDR TV for a couple years at least. My 1080 is still just fine. I was really asking because of that: it would be sweet to be able to lower the internal resolution and get a solid 60-120 fps on 1080
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I think some devs will actually design their games to be 1440p internally and then have the PS5 upscale it.
 
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Mate has offered to sell me his hacked ps4. Worth it or not, with ps5 on horizon? I've heard slight murmurs of ps5 being backwards compatible with ps1/2/3/4 and/or Sony tweaking PSNow somehow.
 
vpance

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bitbydeath said:
Even if America was paying more it’d still be less than a lot of other places. They’ll just have to suck it up.
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The consoles will do fine. Gaming is like a basic human need at this point. Little Jonny will sooner give up getting the new $300 sneaker or $1000 winter jacket first long before PS5/Scarlett.
 
rəddəM

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bitbydeath said:
Wonder if we could get ‘The Witness’ level of graphics from Love, Death and Robots.

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This episode... It's one of the best. Very stylized and very well executed.
Hoping for graphics like this and the Shapeshifter episode for next gen.
 
GermanZepp

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Do any of you guys remember a early PS5 leak that talks not about specs but rather a list of functions/features of nextgen? I remember reading something like " Sony wants that in nextgen you play your games instantly", statements like that. It's was years ago way before we learn about SSD and load times. Now is too hard to find. EDIT: Im going to check all the links in the first page... EDIT:2 can't find it :messenger_unamused: https://www.ps5playstation5.com/
 
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bhunachicken

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Have we all settled on what we think the final spec of the PS5 will be, then? I'm sticking with:

~3Ghz CPU
~2Ghz GPU
12TF
16GB application RAM
4GB OS RAM (reserved)
1TB SSD (M2)
Hardware ray tracing (that won't be as good as nVidia's offering, but will actually be pretty good as it stands) (#secretsauce)
Dualshock 5 will have some sort of meh new feature that no one will really give a hoot about (and the battery will only be about 10% better than the DS4)
Backward compatible with PS4 (+Pro) only* (other consoles supported via PS Now!)
Functional, if quite unremarkable black housing, as it needs to be kept practical for fans and heat

Launch price (GBP): £425 - £450**

(* - PS1/PS2 games from PS store will use the built-in emulator that's not user accessible)
(** - Sony taking a loss of £50 - £100 per machine)
 
Imtjnotu

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bhunachicken said:
Have we all settled on what we think the final spec of the PS5 will be, then? I'm sticking with:

~3Ghz CPU
~2Ghz GPU
12TF
16GB application RAM
4GB OS RAM (reserved)
1TB SSD (M2)
Hardware ray tracing (that won't be as good as nVidia's offering, but will actually be pretty good as it stands) (#secretsauce)
Dualshock 5 will have some sort of meh new feature that no one will really give a hoot about (and the battery will only be about 10% better than the DS4)
Backward compatible with PS4 (+Pro) only* (other consoles supported via PS Now!)
Functional, if quite unremarkable black housing, as it needs to be kept practical for fans and heat

Launch price (GBP): £425 - £450**

(* - PS1/PS2 games from PS store will use the built-in emulator that's not user accessible)
(** - Sony taking a loss of £50 - £100 per machine)
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We don't know the ssd situation outside of it flying data in both directions. But im okay with eberything except I think we will have 20gbs of ram for games
 
mckmas8808

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AND we get more tech demos to show off what the PS5 and Xbox Scarlett will bring us. From the team working on the Final Fantasy engine we have.......

 
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