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[Jigsaah]

I can understand that for the way the game feels but a lot of this is just downgraded physics for the world.

It's a matter of priority as well as art and design direction. The Coalition may simply have a guy doing the water physics who wasn't as talented as the guy from Epic. There's too many potential confounds and even more assumptions. Now if Epic made all the games then this would be newsworthy.

This video is like asking how come your girlfriend's mac and cheese doesn't taste as good as your mom used to make. It's not a fair comparison unless they are using the same recipe with the same brand of ingredients and have the same idea of what mac and cheese should taste like.

My point is they are two different cooks and may prioritize different parts of the dish to create their own mac n cheese.

In case folks are having a hard time following the analogy. While the basics are the same, The Coalition had a different vision of Gears than Epic. It's really that simple.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

No need to counter a sh*tty video I played both and know Gears 5 triumphs over it. Only sick delusional fanboys run to crowbat but thanks though

More praise for Gears 5 visuals

‘Gears Of War 5’ Is Beautiful In A Way Nothing Else On Xbox One Or PS4 Can Match

Gears of War 5 may be the best looking game of this entire console generation, across Xbox One X or PS4 Pro.

www.forbes.com

What does the visuals have to do with anything I said? It can still be a better overall game and be worse in certain regards like animations and feedback. That's why you bring this to their attention so it can be addressed in the next game, you don't put your hands to your ears and act like it doesn't exist.

 

[FranXico]

DF trying to get that next XBOX exclusive reveal again.

There never was any question that DF is getting an exclusive Scarlett reveal. They are already setting up the tone to promote it.

Analysis - Digital Foundry Navi RDNA vs GCN 1.0: Last-Gen vs Next-Gen Architecture Head-To-Head!

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[Explosive Zombie]

"lol you took crowbcat seriously" uh yeah, he's not a personality, his videos are just actual footage of two games comparing them, what's not to take seriously?

 

[NahaNago]

It's a matter of priority as well as art and design direction. The Coalition may simply have a guy doing the water physics who wasn't as talented as the guy from Epic. There's too many potential confounds and even more assumptions. Now if Epic made all the games then this would be newsworthy.

This video is like asking how come your girlfriend's mac and cheese doesn't taste as good as your mom used to make. It's not a fair comparison unless they are using the same recipe with the same brand of ingredients and have the same idea of what mac and cheese should taste like.

My point is they are two different cooks and may prioritize different parts of the dish to create their own mac n cheese.

In case folks are having a hard time following the analogy. While the basics are the same, The Coalition had a different vision of Gears than Epic. It's really that simple.

the issue that folks are going to point to is unfortunately why does a 360 game from 8 years ago have better physics than the latest version even if it is made by a different company. Just saying that we have a different vision isn't going to cut it when folks see comparison videos unfortunately.

 

[Danjin44]

the issue that folks are going to point to is unfortunately why does a 360 game from 8 years ago have better physics than the latest version even if it is made by a different company. Just saying that we have a different vision isn't going to cut it when folks see comparison videos unfortunately.

Its basically same situation as Far Cry 2 vs Far Cry 5. The 5th game has more detail models, better texture and more polygons but its less interactive than 2nd game. It was same with between Dead Rising 4 and the original game.

 

[NahaNago]

Its basically same situation as Far Cry 2 vs Far Cry 5. The 5th game has more detail models, better texture and more polygons but its less interactive than 2nd game. It was same with between Dead Rising 4 and the original game.

I was sure that their was similar instances but I was just pointing out that folks were still going to make comparison videos of it and it would look bad every time it happens, that is all.

 

[Jigsaah]

the issue that folks are going to point to is unfortunately why does a 360 game from 8 years ago have better physics than the latest version even if it is made by a different company. Just saying that we have a different vision isn't going to cut it when folks see comparison videos unfortunately.

Why wouldn't it? Apart from asking the developers themselves, how could one assume one way or the other without adopting some form of bias? Who knows why they chose a different approach for sure? I say what I think it is, others will say what they think it is. I believe it's more telling of one's own bias when they attribute it in a way that disparage the efforts of the developer. That why I take a more centrist approach, saying that it's more likely that things having nothing to do with the aptitude of the developer(s) is a likely reason.

Overall this feels fairly knitpicky and petty. No matter what the truth is, one cannot deny the game looks fantastic and the details mentioned here hasn't swayed my enjoyment of the game. For that, I would focus more on the technical issues, such as the crazy loadtimes between matches or maybe the occasional sound glitches that remain in the game until you restart it.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Man, if you did a comparison vid for Battlefield 1 vs a 10 year older entry Battlefield 1 would pretty much destroy the older entry. Same with Doom 2016 vs Doom 3, Bloodborne vs. Dark Souls, The Witcher 3 vs Witcher 1, etc. if you feel the need to defend Gears 5 being worse than Gears 2 or Dead Rising 4 being worse than Dead Rising 1 it's because you like bad games and should move on to better games/franchises that actually improve over time.

 

[NahaNago]

Why wouldn't it? Apart from asking the developers themselves, how could one assume one way or the other without adopting some form of bias? Who knows why they chose a different approach for sure? I say what I think it is, others will say what they think it is. I believe it's more telling of one's own bias when they attribute it in a way that disparage the efforts of the developer. That why I take a more centrist approach, saying that it's more likely that things having nothing to do with the aptitude of the developer(s) is a likely reason.

Overall this feels fairly knitpicky and petty. No matter what the truth is, one cannot deny the game looks fantastic and the details mentioned here hasn't swayed my enjoyment of the game. For that, I would focus more on the technical issues, such as the crazy loadtimes between matches or maybe the occasional sound glitches that remain in the game until you restart it.

Because no matter what gamers don't like developers removing/ not including things in a series that was already there like for instance all of the pokemon from every gen in sword and shield. I have no idea ultimately why they made the choices they made, all I know is what they have made and what has been made in the past.

Game development is pretty much being knitpicky so why can't you be knitpicky over this. The game does look fantastic and I'm pretty sure it is fun , so enjoy the game.

 

[Danjin44]

Man, if you did a comparison vid for Battlefield 1 vs a 10 year older entry Battlefield 1 would pretty much destroy the older entry. Same with Doom 2016 vs Doom 3, Bloodborne vs. Dark Souls, The Witcher 3 vs Witcher 1, etc. if you feel the need to defend Gears 5 being worse than Gears 2 or Dead Rising 4 being worse than Dead Rising 1 it's because you like bad games and should move on to better games/franchises that actually improve over time.

I myself not much of fan of Gears series never was but isn't good thing Gears 5 losing some detail and interactivity for sake having smooth FPS? Dead Rising 4 in other hand just looks worst in all fronts compare to the original game, even the character models in original game is better quality than DR4.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I myself not much of fan of Gears series never was but isn't good thing Gears 5 losing some detail and interactivity for sake having smooth FPS? Dead Rising 4 in other hand just looks worst in all fronts compare to the original game, even the character models in original game is better quality than DR4.

It's losing those things to try and hit 4k and 60, not just 60. I'm playing it on PC, so 60 isn't a problem no matter what they do to the game and I'm not bothering trying to hit 4K because lol @ 4K right now.

 

[Dr.brain64]

Shots fired.

 

[FMXVII]

'Dudes look like they weigh 500 lbs. built of Myoplex, though...

 

[Jigsaah]

I myself not much of fan of Gears series never was but isn't good thing Gears 5 losing some detail and interactivity for sake having smooth FPS? Dead Rising 4 in other hand just looks worst in all fronts compare to the original game, even the character models in original game is better quality than DR4.

Because no matter what gamers don't like developers removing/ not including things in a series that was already there like for instance all of the pokemon from every gen in sword and shield. I have no idea ultimately why they made the choices they made, all I know is what they have made and what has been made in the past.

Game development is pretty much being knitpicky so why can't you be knitpicky over this. The game does look fantastic and I'm pretty sure it is fun , so enjoy the game.

So why only knitpick what you deem to be negative about the presentation? Why not also give props where the physics excel? There are plenty of examples strewn throughout the campaign. This seems to be a fairly lopsided analysis and lacks even a modicum of objectivity

 

[Maffis]

You really gonna act like you countered the video without addressing the most important thing about it, the shitty animations and lack of gun feedback?

But muh screen shake and blood splatter on the screen is gone!!! That's what this whole thread is about.

 

[thelastword]

• you can't destroy a lot of things like security cameras, some windows, and etc in gears 5 but they showed windows being destroyed/shot left and right in gears 3
• the a.i. is stupid and just sits their getting hit or runs to the bomb you throw in order to get killed
• the water physics and lighting is worse than gears 3. The water movement in 5 doesn't ripple properly when you move and the lighting looks fake for the water
• the way you receive damage in gears 3 looks more dramatically impactful but with gears 5 you act like you barely feel pain at all and just slightly twitch
• Blood splatter disappears in gears 5 leaving only the body but in gears three it remains
• It showed a lot of things being moved around or being shot/destroyed and disappearing in gears5 after a few seconds, but in gears 3 it just remains there
• in gears 5 water automatically evaporates from you so you leave no wet footprints.
• dg said it is 4k but they then said it is only 4k in certain areas.
• dg says the character has light scattering around the ear but shows an ear without it.

I doubt I got all of it the video is like 20 minutes long.

In my opinion it looks like they cut a lot of corners to get to 60fps after watching the video.

You took the bait, I saw it from a mile away......He wanted you to list the points in the video, just to counter against it, not out of genuine interest...….If he was interested in the video, all that time in which he's debating you he could have watched the video at least 3 times and form his own opinion and takes from a more solid point of reference.

In any case, this video was circulated in many threads very early yesterday, anyone who was genuinely interested to see what was highlighted would have done so by now......This poster just wanted a launching platform to dismiss the video, but approaches it as one "who has not watched" but wants to know the lowdown. Pretty cookie cutter bait tbh......

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

But muh screen shake and blood splatter on the screen is gone!!! That's what this whole thread is about.

You can tell yourself that if it makes you feel better, the shitty animations and guns are the clear biggest issues. That melee animation might be the worst I've seen in a AAA game this gen, his arm should be dislocated after doing that shit.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I don't get the comments making fun of us for thinking screen shake and blood splatter on the screen help with intensity... it clearly does. Like it clearly looks more intense in part 2.

 

[Shmunter]

It's no surprise to me Darkx10 or whatever keeps sucking up to these giant corps, he desperately wants to be in the vidya game biz and has always wanted to

so if he talks about setting a new standard blablabla you know's it's some bs

Don’t like the Gears 5 DF analysis, say so.

No piece of media is above criticism, but is it really necessary to personally attack a member of this forum?

 

[Jon Neu]

I'm pretty sure Scarlett is a lock for them...……..Hell, with all their effort and dedication I'd give it to them...….Shame if they don't get it after pushing all that speed though......

Then I guess the PS5 exclusive is a lock for you?

Because your incessant hate dedication against MS while at the same time you shill for Sony so hard, it's the stuff fanatical religious are made of.

 

[FranXico]

Then I guess the PS5 exclusive is a lock for you?

Because your incessant hate dedication against MS while at the same time you shill for Sony so hard, it's the stuff fanatical religious are made of.

Well, at least he isn't running a website. Imagine if he was and people actually took his word as gospel.

 

[Jon Neu]

More praise for Gears 5 visuals

‘Gears Of War 5’ Is Beautiful In A Way Nothing Else On Xbox One Or PS4 Can Match

Gears of War 5 may be the best looking game of this entire console generation, across Xbox One X or PS4 Pro.

www.forbes.com

Forbes is also "on lock for the Scarlett exclusive", I see. As every other news source that calificates Gears 5 as the best looking game.

I mean, they are obviously being paid, how can a game that is not from Sony be the best graphical game?

Well, at least he isn't running a website. Imagine if he was and people actually took his word as gospel.

Are you really trying to compare thelastworld to DF?

I thought the thread couldn't get more embarassing, but I guess I was wrong.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I mean, I don't consider any source credible that thinks Gears 5 is the best looking game. As someone who has played it on Ultra it's simply not.

 

[Justin9mm]

It's losing those things to try and hit 4k and 60, not just 60. I'm playing it on PC, so 60 isn't a problem no matter what they do to the game and I'm not bothering trying to hit 4K because lol @ 4K right now.

I guess some people like burgers because they never had steak!

 

[Justin9mm]

I mean, I don't consider any source credible that thinks Gears 5 is the best looking game. As someone who has played it on Ultra it's simply not.

Currently playing and loving it on my 4K HDR 70" but calling it the best looking game is fanboyism.

 

[Jon Neu]

I mean, I don't consider any source credible that thinks Gears 5 is the best looking game. As someone who has played it on Ultra it's simply not.

Well, that's like someone saying that doesn't consider credible any source that thinks that Gears 5 isn't the best looking game. Some people function in weird absolutes.

The point is, Gears 5 is up there with being the best looking game or really close to it. And from a technical standpoint, it's really hard to argue against a 60fps, 4K and amazing HDR game with this amazing graphics. I can only think of RDR2 on Xbox One X that can dispute Gears 5.

 

[DForce]

Well, that's like someone saying that doesn't consider credible any source that thinks that Gears 5 isn't the best looking game. Some people function in weird absolutes.

The point is, Gears 5 is up there with being the best looking game or really close to it. And from a technical standpoint, it's really hard to argue against a 60fps, 4K and amazing HDR game with this amazing graphics. I can only think of RDR2 on Xbox One X that can dispute Gears 5.

You're always hearing games as "one of the best looking games of this generation."

Playing it on Ultra 4K on my PC, I still wasn't as impressed when I played RDR2, HZD, UC4, The Order 1886.

The environment detail in Gears is more basic in comparison to the others.

Yes, this game has 4K textures and capable of running at a consistent 4k (or even higher) on PC, but it's still wouldn't put it near the best.

 

[Jon Neu]

Playing it on Ultra 4K on my PC, I still wasn't as impressed when I played RDR2, HZD, UC4, The Order 1886.

Again, personal opinions.

I was more impressed playing this than with any of those games, except RDR2.

And from a technical standpoint, no Sony game right now comes close.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Well, that's like someone saying that doesn't consider credible any source that thinks that Gears 5 isn't the best looking game. Some people function in weird absolutes.

The point is, Gears 5 is up there with being the best looking game or really close to it. And from a technical standpoint, it's really hard to argue against a 60fps, 4K and amazing HDR game with this amazing graphics. I can only think of RDR2 on Xbox One X that can dispute Gears 5.

Yeah, what a weird absolute... here's some other weird absolutes I live by...

Food critic says "Friendly's serves the best burger in the world" - done with that critic
Film critic says "Hobbs and Shaw is the pinnacle of cinematic achievement" - done with that critic
Music critic says "New Slipknot heaviest metal album ever made" - done with that critic

Also, Gears 5 isn't up there with any of the best looking games for me. I don't care what sort of feat it is on consoles, it's nice the toaster you bought can play a game well, some of us on PC can play the majority of games at 4K, 60fps with HDR all we want all the time. I'm not even sure what about it is such a technical accomplishment, I'd like someone to explain what it's doing that's such a big deal. If the answer is "it's 60 fps and 4k" which, by the way the X is doing dynamic resolution on the game so even that is out the window but I'm really not interested in that argument. If I didn't want to play Destiny 2 at 144hz I could certainly switch it to 4K and look at a much better looking game.

 

[BigLee74]

Any TLW post, liked by DemiGod. Any DemiGod post, liked by TLW. I think these guys are in deep deep love, and enjoy some serious team-tag goading.

The video in the original post is some seriously immature stuff. Who does that guy cater for? 12 year olds? Embarrassing to watch, doubly embarrassing to make a thread about it.

Ripping ...for minutes... on a missing light source in a map. Yawn

Are there things I don't like about it from a technical or graphical stand point? Heck yeah. Are there things I do like about it from a technical or graphical standpoint? Heck yeah.

Having played them all, Gears 5 blows all other Gears out of the water in just about every regard. It does have lots of interactivity, just focussed in different areas. But given you have claimed to have played this TLW, I'm sure you already know that.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

So, credit where it's due, that's good performance for 4K with all settings on ultra, but man do I not think it looks great lol. It looks FINE at best, like the most bland looking game I've maybe ever seen.

 

[Jon Neu]

Also, Gears 5 isn't up there with any of the best looking games for me.

You are repeating yourself.

I don't care what sort of feat it is on consoles

But I don't care that you don't care it's a feat on consoles.

it's nice the toaster you bought can play a game well, some of us on PC can play the majority of games at 4K, 60fps with HDR all we want all the time.

PC MASTER RAAAAACEEEEE... IN DA HOUSEEEEE!*

*Read with Rich Evans voice.

 

[DForce]

Again, personal opinions.

I was more impressed playing this than with any of those games, except RDR2.

And from a technical standpoint, no Sony game right now comes close.

Achieving 60fps on a console for Gears doesn't make the game technically better.

Also have to remember it runs at 30 on the base Xbox and 60 on the Xbox One X with dynamic resolution, the most powerful console out with better specs than the PS4 Pro.


You're assuming that the game can only run at 30fps, but you don't know what it's capable of since the game is locked at 30fps.

It's possible that the game could run on average of 45 on the PS4 Pro, but of course the game is locked at 30.


Example: God of War runs between 40-60 on the Pro (mostly around 40-50 in open environments and 50-60 in closed environments).



I seen Gears 5 running at Ultra 4k and it's clear a lot of things were scaled down to make sure the game is easier to run.

 

[demigod]

Any TLW post, liked by DemiGod. Any DemiGod post, liked by TLW. I think these guys are in deep deep love, and enjoy some serious team-tag goading.

The video in the original post is some seriously immature stuff. Who does that guy cater for? 12 year olds? Embarrassing to watch, doubly embarrassing to make a thread about it.

Ripping ...for minutes... on a missing light source in a map. Yawn

Are there things I don't like about it from a technical or graphical stand point? Heck yeah. Are there things I do like about it from a technical or graphical standpoint? Heck yeah.

Having played them all, Gears 5 blows all other Gears out of the water in just about every regard. It does have lots of interactivity, just focussed in different areas. But given you have claimed to have played this TLW, I'm sure you already know that.

You sure seem to be triggered, lol.

 

[Sky87]

Achieving 60fps on a console for Gears doesn't make the game technically better.

Also have to remember it runs at 30 on the base Xbox and 60 on the Xbox One X with dynamic resolution, the most powerful console out with better specs than the PS4 Pro.


You're assuming that the game can only run at 30fps, but you don't know what it's capable of since the game is locked at 30fps.

It's possible that the game could run on average of 45 on the PS4 Pro, but of course the game is locked at 30.


Example: God of War runs between 40-60 on the Pro (mostly around 40-50 in open environments and 50-60 in closed environments).



I seen Gears 5 running at Ultra 4k and it's clear a lot of things were scaled down to make sure the game is easier to run.

Comparing Gears 5 with GoW doesn't really makes sense. They have to drop the resolution to 1080p to have a variable 40-60fps.

Gears 5 manages to hold a higher framerate with much higher resolution which is a technical feat. Obviously it won't look as good as GoW running in Resolution mode, but the framerate difference is night and day.

 

[GymWolf]

5 hours in on pc at ultra with the ultra texture pack installed.

The game is pretty most of the times, but he is inconsistent as fuck...especially with characters.

People who really think that this is top tier graphics in every aspects need desperately to keep the eyes out of their ass...

 

[Jon Neu]

Achieving 60fps on a console for Gears doesn't make the game technically better.

No, it's the whole package that makes it technically better: graphics on par with the best, 4K, 60fps, absolutely stunning HDR implementation...

Example: God of War runs between 40-60 on the Pro (mostly around 40-50 in open environments and 50-60 in closed environments).

Yeah, in perfomance mode, at 1080p.

When it runs with the highest resolution (which is 2K-ish), it drops below 30fps in combats.

 

[GymWolf]

Performance are top tier, on pc and console, nothing bad to say about it.
It's black magic like almost every esclusives with these ultra shitty hardware, both xone and ps4.

 

[crowbrow]

I can see what he means by looking at the video comparisons. The old ones seem more immersive.

 

[Blam]

Saddens me I can't play Gears 2 and 3 on my PC to this day. I don't care about the "oooh, too grey!!!" haters, I love the aesthetic and the hyper masculinity vibe of the 360 games where everything is a bit bigger and louder than it should be. Feels like 40K + Contra to me.

Release the games on PC, Microsoft! I don't want to buy a 360 dammit!

lol I think someone I know has the source code to Gears 1-3 on PC but I haven’t talked to them in years.

 

[thelastword]

Then I guess the PS5 exclusive is a lock for you?

Because your incessant hate dedication against MS while at the same time you shill for Sony so hard, it's the stuff fanatical religious are made of.

I just call it how I see it...…..Unless you think MS has had a model gen...….If you think so, that's fair.....I just happen to disagree, but carry on..

Forbes is also "on lock for the Scarlett exclusive", I see. As every other news source that calificates Gears 5 as the best looking game.

I mean, they are obviously being paid, how can a game that is not from Sony be the best graphical game?



Are you really trying to compare thelastworld to DF?

I thought the thread couldn't get more embarassing, but I guess I was wrong.

Every news outlet says Gears is the best looking game? You're really taking a page from John there, Jon...….

As for the bolded, I was actually offended that he compared me to DF, even though I understood the reference...….What's clear is I don't try to mask the truth, you'll never hear me calling a 1 a 2, calling worse reflections and shadows better or using a shot with no SSS as having the feature. Great lighting where there is none, and never speak of all those dialed back features in the game...….That bloater fight in LOU-R fell down to 50fps on PS4 when it blew up, 1ms, DF blew a gasket, but Gears 5 is a smooth experience with dips to 40fps with tearing......How about no 4k native in-game as they said, but instead 1800p-1080p, not the high ceiling and average they indicated...…Trying with all their might to mask the real drawbacks of Gears 5, straight out lying about it, to push a best looking game angle...…..Then on the flip, you have cases where a feature is better on PS4, then they say it's worse, like the AO in Need for Speed Rivals, they said it was better on the XBONES. You think Gears 5 is DF;s first rodeo into the dark abyss?

Well, that's like someone saying that doesn't consider credible any source that thinks that Gears 5 isn't the best looking game. Some people function in weird absolutes.

The point is, Gears 5 is up there with being the best looking game or really close to it. And from a technical standpoint, it's really hard to argue against a 60fps, 4K and amazing HDR game with this amazing graphics. I can only think of RDR2 on Xbox One X that can dispute Gears 5.

You keep saying that, are you going to force people to believe? Others have eyes just like you and they don't agree......Graphics is more than 4k resolution (hell its not even 4k), graphics is about ATD and immersion in the world......Look at that black smoke at the beginning of the game, when I saw that, just suspended in the air......I said what is that? So many shortcuts with reflections physics and ATD.....You think that does not count in how a game moves and impresses you whilst playing?......Games are interactive, they are visual, what you see in the game world has to make sense.....You think you can just render a character with 2 trillion polygons and say you have the best graphics? Hell, the fact that they went for 60fps on Gears 5 means Gears 5 would not be a stalwart for graphics.......XBONEX with a jaguar CPU was their target and all they did was dial everything back and still not hit locked 60 and not even at 4k....

There are more impressive 60fps games this gen than Gears 5....with better physics, effects and ATD for that matter...

 

[Vorg]

Why does the fact that Gears 5 is a good looking game trigger so many people? It's so fucking funny but I'm enjoying the show, so please carry on.

 

[evanft]

Gears 5 is a gorgeous game and the fact that it runs at 4k60 on the XBoneX is very impressive. Talking about how it's not as impressive or more impressive than game XYZ is splitting hairs at this point and is generally a pointless discussion. I think we should be focusing more on gameplay, story, etc.

 

[FranXico]

Why does the fact that Gears 5 is a good looking game trigger so many people? It's so fucking funny but I'm enjoying the show, so please carry on.

People in general agree that it is good looking. It's challenging the dogma that it is the best looking game ever made that triggers some people.

 

[Jon Neu]

I just call it how I see it...…..Unless you think MS has had a model gen...….If you think so, that's fair.....I just happen to disagree, but carry on..

Well, unlike you, I have the capacity to be objective.

MS this gen have been utterly disgusting for the most part, they sold an underpowered piece of trash for a lot of money, betraying what always was the mark of the Xbox brand: graphical power. They also didn't make new games, they are just living on the legacy of the first Xbox and the Xbox 360.

But thanks to God, it seems they have learned from their mistakes; the Xbox One X is the best console by far and they are buying studios and creating others. Hopefully that translates into meaningful new IP's that can carry the brand.

I hope Scarlett follows this last steps and MS goes back to what make the Xbox brand great in the first place.

Every news outlet says Gears is the best looking game?

Literally nobody has said this.

What's clear is I don't try to mask the truth

Well, in a sense, you are right. You are as transparent as an open book.

A book called: I'm the biggest Sony shill ever.

You keep saying that, are you going to force people to believe? Others have eyes just like you and they don't agree.....

So far, the people that don't agree are exactly the same type of people.

I would be worried when a large amount of the other types of people disagree, but so far, the people who most oppose are the same type of people.

People in general agree that it is good looking. It's challenging the dogma that it is the best looking game ever made that triggers some people.

Actually, what triggers some type of people is hearing that is the best looking game ever. Then they come with the conspiracy theories about why some of the most respected technical press of the medium praises the game in such manner.

The salty reactions against the game are being hilarious.

 

[Rolling_Start]

So, credit where it's due, that's good performance for 4K with all settings on ultra, but man do I not think it looks great lol. It looks FINE at best, like the most bland looking game I've maybe ever seen.

Bear in mind that you're only hitting target res 50% of the time! With a 46.5 fps 5% low average, you could probably dial things back a little and get gameplay somewhat smoother.

With suitably cut back settings, my gtx 680 is hitting 57.7 5% low, spending 91% of time at target res, at full HD (100% resolution scale). Latest driver, unbelievably, seems to have helped my 7 year old card slightly too. Amazing.

Game looks brilliant for what it's running on and feels better than any Gears game I've played so far (have finished 1 ~4).

 

[Fake]

 

[GlassAwful]

Yea I'm glad someone made this video.

I played through most of Act 1 last night scratching my head at the mediocre to decent graphics and tech on display trying to figure out how this game was getting praised to high heavens.

Like, the image quality is crisp and in stills, cutscenes, and certain angles things can look pretty good with the lighting, but as soon as you look to the side of the detailed arena prop your eyes are assaulted with mediocre, low poly utterly static environments with uneven material shading, lighting, and just flat repetitive shit. Its holy unimpressive to the point I'm confused that my X can't render it in native 4k 60fps solid.

Have the people praising the tech here even played other current gen games? This shit isn't even the best looking 60fps title or in the running for it on Xbox. Go talk to Capcom, DICE, or one of the COD devs for that (Advanced and Infinite Warfare don't get their fair shake for graphics this gen)

That's before we get to the fact that tech stacks up poorly to prior entries. Hell I'd say Gears4 was more detailed and artistically consistent with materials.

 

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ALL OPINION>>>> I've got a day one original xbone and an original ps4, now I'm not saying people like me are holding back game development because they had to make G5 work on my dusty ass system...but people like me are holding back game development (I refuse to upgrade to an X1X this close to "next gen" and I pretty much think the Pro is useless).

1) Never give me a 30FPS game again, 60FPS is just so damn crisp and I can only imagine what this game would look like if it was built solely to run on an X1X.

2) I haven't played much of G5 yet (gotta grind out those APEX battle pass levels), but the original trilogy def had more....atmosphere? Feels too much like a bro-shooter teammate ass-slap fest now, again I'm not too far in so this might change.

3) While the graphics are...good....I didn't launch the first campaign mission and go "oh shit this is beautiful" but you can tell there are upgrades (in the first level the building collapsing around you looked smooth and flawless even tho it was a scripted act) and the facial animations look noticeably better even on my grandpabox.

All in all, even if it meant I couldn't play it on my oldbox, some of these bigger AAA games having to develop for the lowest common denominator may be consumer friendly....but it isn't development friendly. I'm gonna assume they are gonna re-release G5 for next gen (ala GTAV) so MS can skinny dip in that double moolah.

Bravo to them so far making such a good looking game that I didn't have to upgrade my hardware for.