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[BlackOlivesMatter]

To be fair you can't tell other people what they can and can't be proud of. Especially if those people have been discriminated against due to those immutable characteristics

 

[Katsura]

You posted a recent 5 day stock timeline that barely moved when Kaepernick's ads came out at the beginning of September last year?

Nope. That's not the context at all

 

[mckmas8808]

But how they overcome the discrimination is dependent on the content of their character, so DeepEnigma’s point still stands.

It can be both. A person in the 1950s could have been proud of their Jewish heritage and what that means to them. And also overcome the discrimination that they faced due to the content of their character. No reason why we have to make it one or the other.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I didn't know a straight pride flag even existed until yesterday lol. Plus how can a gay pride flag be political? There's no politics in that flag.

Gay pride flag may not have started with political intentions, but there definitely is now. It's used constantly as virtue signalling.

End of the day, I think most normal people don't care that it exists, it's just odd that it's their in the game more specifically because the game isn't held up by the same politics and problems that our society has, given that it's not even on Earth. It's just weird that it's their and comes off as virtue signalling and disingenuous.

I mean, Terminator and Dave Batista aren't in the gears universe either and I don't see too many people complaining, so what the hell do I know?!

It is what it is, if people don't want to buy a great game because of it being in their, then they won't. But I'd wager most people will be of the opinion that they'll see it, not care, and go on playing Gears.

 

[manfestival]

To be fair you can't tell other people what they can and can't be proud of.

Not trying to be nitpicky but this statement falls apart as it would be ousted as a double standard for something like "white power."

 

[The Mad Draklor]

It can be both. A person in the 1950s could have been proud of their Jewish heritage and what that means to them. And also overcome the discrimination that they faced due to the content of their character. No reason why we have to make it one or the other.

But they are proud of their Jewish heritage because of the their tradition of overcoming hardships which again, is related to the content of character.

Being proud of being Jewish because you are Jewish is an extremely empty and circular form of pride.

 

[mckmas8808]

Not trying to be nitpicky but this statement falls apart as it would be ousted as a double standard for something like "white power."

And to be fair to that response, unfortunately, the term "white power" actually was used as a tool to crush other races. But luckily there's no such thing as just "white" people per se. Because all white people have a heritage to someplace that their forefathers called home. And I'm assuming that's where white people can be proud of. Those traditions should still matter in my opinion.

But they are proud of their Jewish heritage because of the their tradition of overcoming hardships which again, is related to the content of character.

Being proud of being Jewish because you are Jewish is an extremely empty and circular form of pride.

I don't think anybody is proud of being jewish, black, Cuban, gay, etc just for the pure fact that they are those things. I know when we black people say "I'm black and I'm proud" we are thinking of our cultural traditions (food, music, artwork) that we are proud of. We pride our natural hair and the way it looks when we grow dreadlocks or when we braid our hair. We love the color of our skin (aesthetically) and the shape of our nose.

I'm assuming (because I'm not those other things I listed) that those other people have similar things that they are proud of and that's fine. White people can have many of those same things to be proud of. No reason why they are exempt in this.

 

[Cravis]

Going to play devil’s advocate but how would some people feel if the game added Christian flags? Or Islamic flags? Or a flag with the Star of David.

I agree with those that games are about escapism. They are entertainment. We want to play them to have a good time and forget about all the problems in the world for just a little bit. If I go into a game that says it’s political and pulls from real world, that’s cool. If I go into a game about people fighting creatures from underground on some alien world I’m not exactly expecting stuff like pride flags or religious flags to be in it. It takes me out.

I mean you don’t go into a Transformers movie expecting to see the autobots and decepticons displaying their ethnic, gender, or religious views on flags mounted on the car forms. It’d be ludicrous. If I go see Saving Private Ryan then I’m expecting that. If it fits the narrative then go for it but don’t do it just because.

Bottom line is I’m not stupid, I know what your are doing. So keep that shit out of my games that have nothing to do with real world events.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's crazy to see rod sell out. I remember an interview where he got triggered because cliff named the tank thing from gears 1 the armadillo, Because armadillos dont exist in the gears universe.

That is pretty hilarious in context.

 

[manfestival]

And to be fair to that response, unfortunately, the term "white power" actually was used as a tool to crush other races. But luckily there's no such thing as just "white" people per se. Because all white people have a heritage to someplace that their forefathers called home. And I'm assuming that's where white people can be proud of. Those traditions should still matter in my opinion.

The double standard remains and is just being justified from what I am seeing since the principal you have brought up can be applied to every race. For example: I am Latino and Puerto Rican. It is perfectly acceptable for me to claim both Latino power and Puerto Rican power(both exist and the latter is an amazing salsa band as well). A white person can be Polish but that is all that society wants to claim is acceptable. Bonus: This Polish person can have 0 ties with American culture but Americanism gets applied to them as well because they are white. This is something I see when I travel to different countries and these things mostly get applied by Americans.

 

[mckmas8808]

The double standard remains and is just being justified from what I am seeing since the principal you have brought up can be applied to every race. For example: I am Latino and Puerto Rican. It is perfectly acceptable for me to claim both Latino power and Puerto Rican power(both exist and the latter is an amazing salsa band as well). A white person can be Polish but that is all that society wants to claim is acceptable. Bonus: This Polish person can have 0 ties with American culture but Americanism gets applied to them as well because they are white. This is something I see when I travel to different countries and these things mostly get applied by Americans.

Yeah, there is a double standard to some degree in America. But that's 100% due to American history. That stuff can't just be erased just to make people feel better.

Going to play devil’s advocate but how would some people feel if the game added Christian flags? Or Islamic flags? Or a flag with the Star of David.

I agree with those that games are about escapism. They are entertainment. We want to play them to have a good time and forget about all the problems in the world for just a little bit. If I go into a game that says it’s political and pulls from real world, that’s cool. If I go into a game about people fighting creatures from underground on some alien world I’m not exactly expecting stuff like pride flags or religious flags to be in it. It takes me out.

I mean you don’t go into a Transformers movie expecting to see the autobots and decepticons displaying their ethnic, gender, or religious views on flags mounted on the car forms. It’d be ludicrous. If I go see Saving Private Ryan then I’m expecting that. If it fits the narrative then go for it but don’t do it just because.

Bottom line is I’m not stupid, I know what your are doing. So keep that shit out of my games that have nothing to do with real world events.

The bolded kinda shows your weak spot on the issue though. Flags based on religion should be 100% fine. Why shouldn't they exist in those game's multiplayer?

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

Yeah, there is a double standard to some degree in America. But that's 100% due to American history. That stuff can't just be erased just to make people feel better.




The bolded kinda shows your weak spot on the issue though. Flags based on religion should be 100% fine. Why shouldn't they exist in those game's multiplayer?

For fucks sake give it a rest already dude.

 

[ConnorDuffy1977]

So keep that shit out of my games that have nothing to do with real world events.

But what if the economics of it all make these sort of calculated moves beneficial? How many people will actually boycott because of this virtue signaling via inclusion? Will more play the game because of it?

 

[FatalT1]

These are flags that just have striped line colors and cost 100 scrap to construct. You never seen see the banners in-game except for in your character customization and the pre- and post-match screens. All this does is screams marketing to me. I have 160 scrap after playing for almost all of last night and a little bit today. At least they’re not going all-in on the pandering and charging actual store-bought iron for them like the world flags. Those are going for 700 iron or $7 USD, sheesh.

For comparison the cheapest constructible banner is 40 scrap. By making these 19 Pride banners 100 scrap, they knew exactly what they were doing. Marketing is amazing.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[Screamer-RSA]

“One thing – the guys here will probably laugh if they see this – but I’ve been telling all the artists nonstop to go watch Handmaid’s Tale… The composition, the color, and just the cinematography and symbolism is just off the charts. So, I watched that and I’m like, ‘Wow we gotta find a way to get more of this stuff in Gears 6.’”

LOL I guess Gears 6 wil have red "paint" everywhere. What SYMBOLISM!!!

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I installed Gears 5 when it came out through Game pass. Booted it up yesterday to see what it was like. Saw there was a Terminator game mode and went straight for it (Love a bit of Terminator), after dicking around loading through loads of screens it was hanging on a screen just before we entered a game.. and it just hung there, for what felt like forever with other people in a lobby. Logged off.

Next I tried making a single player type horde mode, it loaded up with A.I bots but no enemies were spawning? I switched off, went back to Forza horizon 4 for a bit

You can include whoever the fuck you like in the game but if i'm not included in what I want to play then I dont give a shit, none of this new age bullshit means a thing to me

And that was my time with Gears 5. Load of bollocks.

 

[Silent Viper]

If u support LGBT then u gonna be on good side of Era but bad side of Gaf.

How to find a middle ground, so both happy?

 

[royox]

If u support LGBT then u gonna be on good side of Era but bad side of Gaf.

How to find a middle ground, so both happy?

You can support LGTBIQPRSTUV+ and not hate all the white no-trans, no-gay, male humans here on gaf.

 

[GreyHorace]

I thought this was a series about taking cover and shooting shit? Who the fuck cares about diversity in Gears of War?

 

[GymWolf]

You can support LGTBIQPRSTUV+ and not hate all the white no-trans, no-gay, male humans here on gaf.

But i can't feel better with myself if i can't hate on other people happiness

 

[Virex]

“One thing – the guys here will probably laugh if they see this – but I’ve been telling all the artists nonstop to go watch Handmaid’s Tale… The composition, the color, and just the cinematography and symbolism is just off the charts. So, I watched that and I’m like, ‘Wow we gotta find a way to get more of this stuff in Gears 6.’”

LOL I guess Gears 6 wil have red "paint" everywhere. What SYMBOLISM!!!

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility.

At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

 

[Spukc]

brap Wrong forum silly

 

[royox]

Who the fuck cares about diversity in Gears of War?

LOCUST LIVES MATTER!!

 

[NeilH1982]

I noticed, I spent a huge chunck of the game playing as Kait while I wanted to play as JD

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility.

At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

 

[Virex]

 

[PerfectDark]

Good reason to avoid a game. Stupid people. Who gives a crap. I need a flag to tell people when I take a poop in game so they know I just went to the bathroom.

 

[Birdo]

If u support LGBT then u gonna be on good side of Era but bad side of Gaf.

LGBT person here. Virtue signaling isn't "Supporting", it's marketing.

 

[yoprime]

Going to play devil’s advocate but how would some people feel if the game added Christian flags? Or Islamic flags? Or a flag with the Star of David.

I agree with those that games are about escapism. They are entertainment. We want to play them to have a good time and forget about all the problems in the world for just a little bit. If I go into a game that says it’s political and pulls from real world, that’s cool. If I go into a game about people fighting creatures from underground on some alien world I’m not exactly expecting stuff like pride flags or religious flags to be in it. It takes me out.

I mean you don’t go into a Transformers movie expecting to see the autobots and decepticons displaying their ethnic, gender, or religious views on flags mounted on the car forms. It’d be ludicrous. If I go see Saving Private Ryan then I’m expecting that. If it fits the narrative then go for it but don’t do it just because.

Bottom line is I’m not stupid, I know what your are doing. So keep that shit out of my games that have nothing to do with real world events.

Couldn't agree more.... If I'm playing Life is Strange, great show me all the lesbo pride you can, I'm playing it because I enjoy that in that world and it has meaning. In Gears your sole purpose is to fuck up monsters... You don't need to tell the world you are one of the many ridiculous gender types. It makes no difference to you putting a chainsaw through a locusts head.

 

[Screamer-RSA]

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility.

At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

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[Virex]

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[DeepEnigma]

If u support LGBT then u gonna be on good side of Era but bad side of Gaf.

How to find a middle ground, so both happy?

Is this the warped perspective of a hill you really want to die on in the name of sticking up for your favorite brand? Goodness.

 

[Dr. Claus]

If u support LGBT then u gonna be on good side of Era but bad side of Gaf.

How to find a middle ground, so both happy?

Wow, this is by far the dumbest way to be an xbox fanboy I have seen yet.