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Ninja believes streamers should be exempt from in game bans.

Kagey K

Banned
greenmangaming said:
Ninja, real name Richard Tyler Blevins, states that he believes cheating rules shouldn’t affect “content creators” like Faze Jarvis and presumably, Blevins himself.

Don’t think that Blevins is arguing for a total removal of consequences for cheating in-game, however, as he recommends that bans such as this remain enforced for regular “piece of ****” kids.

Ninja said:
There’s a difference between a content creator who has millions of subscribers, who then gets banned from what makes him money, and some kid who is just a piece of **** who has zero followers, zero money from gaming and hacks,” Blevins stated.

“You ban that kid and nothing happens to him. Nothing happens. Oh no! He can’t cheat any more. You ban Jarvis – it’s different.

Personally I think this is the wrong attitude to have. If you make money doing something you should be extra careful to not get banned from that thing, but hey what do I know? 🤷‍♂️
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
There’s a difference between a content creator who has millions of subscribers, who then gets banned from what makes him money, and some kid who is just a piece of **** who has zero followers, zero money from gaming and hacks,” Blevins stated.

Wonder how bad of a narcistic complex he has when he puts out a quote like that.
 
Ninja is a fucking idiot. Jarvis deserved that ban. He knew what the potential consequences would be (even if he won't admit as much publicly) yet he did it anyway. I have no sympathy for him, nor do I think he should be let off the hook just because he's got e-celeb status.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 

BadBurger

Is 'That Pure Potato'
I think he's wrong. Respect the rules of the game you're playing as put forth by the creators. Earning money from a game doesn't make you exempt from the rules or any different from a "piece of **** kid". In fact, given that you're earning a living on the back of other people's creations, you should probably be held to a higher, stricter standard.
 
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MiguelItUp

Member
Wow, this sounds like a ridiculously entitled perspective. Incredibly skewed and narcissistic. I didn't dig too much into the situation, but the kid was cheating on public servers (I mean, no choice because it's Fortnite) and was ruining the experience of other players.

Doesn't matter if you're a big streamer or a random player, the outcome of the situation is all the same. It's not like someone is going to be okay with their Fortnite experience being ruined because it's a "popular streamer" cheating, rather than some random person.

Kid got what he deserve. I don't care about his crocodile tears dramatic YouTube video. You were actively cheating. Why not create a video talking about cheating and how it works and what it does. Maybe get creative with it in a way where you're NOT just straight up cheating in a game for the sake of content.

So stupid. I don't care for Fortnite whatsoever, but I appreciate Epic not giving him some kind of special privilege where he can cheat and get away with it. "Popular influencer" or not, it shouldn't matter and that's it.
 

Ar¢tos

Member
So people that get paired against cheater streamers can't do anything about it except feel pride in being killed by a 5min pseudo-celebrity?
 

PocoJoe

Banned
This "ninja" sounds like a complete asshole and should be banned because of it.
 
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CeeJay

Member
The high profile professional streamers should be setting the example for their impressionable young audience, they have a responsibility to be seen doing the right thing. They are not exempt from the rules, quite the opposite and should they not respect those rules then they should lose that priveledge of getting paid to play games. If a pro sportsman gets caught cheating they lose their job and get banned, simple. If these people want to be seen as professionals they should act like professionals.
 

Shifty

Member
It's almost as if having a large following brings with it even an greater responsibility to not get your ass banned for cheating.

You know, rather than the immunity to swan about and ruin other people's games because I GOT PEOPLE TO ENTERTAIN OVER HERE...
 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Wait isnt Ninja the same streamer who got into a mini shit storm because he said he couldn't play with girls because he didn't wanna start rumors or something?


Edit: Holy shit it is. He is the Mike Pence of gaming. Shitty hot takes and can't be around women.
 
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Fbh

Member
LOL, what a joke. If anything it should be the other way around. These people really live in their own bubble, someone should make a show about an ex internet star trying to get a job.

"D..did you just punch a customer?"
"Yeah so what?"
"You can't do that, I'm going to have to fire you"
"Woah, WHAT, you can't do that. I'm not just some random customer you can kick out for assaulting other people, I make a living working here man, it's different."
 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
LOL, what a joke. If anything it should the other way around. These people really live in their own bubble, someone should make a show about an ex internet star trying to get a job.

"D..did you just punch a customer?"
"Yeah so what?"
"You can't do that, I'm going to have to fire you"
"Woah, WHAT, you can't do that. I'm not just some random customer you can kick out for assaulting other people, I make a living working here man, it's different."
I love how accurate this is.
 

DonF

Member
Fuck ! this guy is dumb! If anything...if your income depends on a game... DONT FUCKING GO AGAINST THE GAME'S ToS !!!
 
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theHFIC

Member
All "streamers", "content creators", "influencers", whatever the hell they want to call themselves outside of opportunists should be put into matches with each other (like some games do with cheaters) and let everyone else who doesn't give a shit about them play on normal servers.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
What a weird take. Why does Ninja feel it is the developers' job to protect a streamer's cash flow, even if that streamer is doing things that is objectively harmful to the game experience? Why is the streamer's ability to make money more important than the rules everyone agrees to when they play the game?

How far do we take this? Like can the developer introduce a patch that changes the "meta" and nerfs the character a prominent streamer is good at? After all if he gets worse maybe people won't watch him anymore. And how much income does a streamer have to make before he is declared immune to the rules everyone else has to play by?

Not sure Ninja thought this through TBH.
 
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Alexios

Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I wish stream sniping was more common. Like hey I'm streaming here, don't kill me guys, come on, not fair! Same entitlement bs.
 
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