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[Ryu Kaiba]

And still God of War took 5 years.
Two teams does not work like that, they don't release games within months of each other. Uncharted 4(who also made Uncharted Lost Legacy in 2017) and TLOU 2 were different teams and there is a 4 year gap between them(3 if you count lost legacy). They have been two teams since Uncharted 2.

Naughty Dog Officially Split Into Two Teams - IGN

Naughty Dog, the Sony-owned studio behind Uncharted and The Last of Us, has been split into two internal teams working on separate projects.

www.ign.com

80 Guerrilla staffs worked on Death Stranding. And there's a rumour about a multiplayer game, which will come out first before Horizon 2.

None of MS's first party studio games are pushed for any deadline. Hellblade II and Playground Games RPG project have been in works since late 2016, after the first Hellblade and Forza Horizon 3 launched.
You call them "small struggling studios", but that used to be Sony's acquisition principle. They would pick small studios like Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games and Bend and grow them to what they are today.
Also, a blind fanboy asking why people are supporting the opposite platform is kind of hypocritical (but which I would expect and am not surprised).

No blind fanboying here I'm just an educated consumer, a core gamer, and still waiting for MS to figure out how to sell me an Xbox.

 

[Gavon West]

No blind fanboying here I'm just an educated consumer, a core gamer, and still waiting for MS to figure out how to sell me an Xbox.

See? This is what I'm talking about. This foo still thinks Microsoft is trying to sell him an Xbox with options like PC and Xcloud around. LOL!

 

[Inviusx]

PS5 it is then.....

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

We'll see about those "straggling" studios come next gen when Sony finds themselves scrambling to find out how they allowed Microsoft to match and/or surpass their own first party stable of developers.

LMAOO Absolutely laughable. sure thing pal.

Or how they allowed them to creamate them in the hardware department.

Cremate them with no software to take advantage of their hardware.

Or how GP makes PS Now continue to look like an after thought.

Who needs Game Pass when Playstation has backwards compatibility with all legacy PS Consoles and games people actually want.

Or how Xcloud in connection with GP stomps a mud hole in Sony's ass in areas where Xbox was never even taken seriously.

Yeah I'm not about to go down the whole streaming rabbit hole, lets see if they can get it to work first.

Next gen is going to be a shocker for Sony fans. I can't wait! The gaming forums will be an absolute joy to read with my coffee.

Lololololol they already are for PS fans

 

[Hendrick's]

Yet again this terrible take with no logical proof. Gamespass on PC a whole 5 dollars and 0 ,cut of third party games. Even worse being forced to sell on steam and give gabe 30% more new sales. Console gamepass 10 dollars a chance at gold for 15 total vs 5. Then a cut of third party games and 0 cut for gabe. So tell me they don't care about hardware. They are forced to try something different after losing 4 of 4 generations seeing a giant Nintendo give up on the market. It probably won't work but so won't try what everyone tried against Sony so far either. They could make exclusive it would still be a loss. This method of gamepass and giving users time to transition over might help keep the loss not as bad. We know the exclusive route has not worked for anyone vs Sony.

You all can play the console war game and bring your silly logic, but it will never make you right. MS doesn't even need Xbox, the whole division is a fart in the wind for them. Of course they will gamble and play with new ways to tackle the market or create new ones within the space. Hardware is the least of their concerns.

 

[quest]

You all can play the console war game and bring your silly logic, but it will never make you right. MS doesn't even need Xbox, the whole division is a fart in the wind for them. Of course they will gamble and play with new ways to tackle the market or create new ones within the space. Hardware is the least of their concerns.

Of course they don't and probably a repeat generation from shutting it down I have said as much. Does not change the fact the PC is just for MAU at this point the console is the revenue generator. With out the console the games division is tits up. So claims of they don't care about hardware sales is disingenuous. Mostly FUD and fantasy of a Sony monopoly of the market.

 

[Hendrick's]

Of course they don't and probably a repeat generation from shutting it down I have said as much. Does not change the fact the PC is just for MAU at this point the console is the revenue generator. With out the console the games division is tits up. So claims of they don't care about hardware sales is disingenuous. Mostly FUD and fantasy of a Sony monopoly of the market.

My point was that hardware is only a delivery system for Game Pass. With that branching out to PC, cloud, and wherever else they can put it, the hardware is merely a stopgap. Not saying they will abandon it, just that it is not the focus.

 

[spatialawareness]

This Quote: "Next gen is going to be a shock for Sony Fans"...

that's one we will look back at and laugh at, hilarious. How out of touch are you? PS5 is going to be huge.

 

[spatialawareness]

We'll see about those "straggling" studios come next gen when Sony finds themselves scrambling to find out how they allowed Microsoft to match and/or surpass their own first party stable of developers. Or how they allowed them to creamate them in the hardware department. Or how GP makes PS Now continue to look like an after thought. Or how Xcloud in connection with GP stomps a mud hole in Sony's ass in areas where Xbox was never even taken seriously.

Next gen is going to be a shocker for Sony fans. I can't wait! The gaming forums will be an absolute joy to read with my coffee.

Boy are you in for a shock when World wide sales picture starts to form. None of MS new studios have proven to be near the level f ND/SSM, etc..you are dilusional. There is far more then making AAA game of that caliber then buying a couple of smaller studios....

 

[spatialawareness]

See? This is what I'm talking about. This foo still thinks Microsoft is trying to sell him an Xbox with options like PC and Xcloud around. LOL!

They are not trying to sell Hardware? What is Lockheart, One X, XSX than? Whoever sells most hardware has the most users, most subs most revenue...MS wants to sell as many as possible, saying otherwise is ignoring reality. It's not the only avenue, but it is the biggest single factor right now.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

See? This is what I'm talking about. This foo still thinks Microsoft is trying to sell him an Xbox with options like PC and Xcloud around. LOL!

My point was that hardware is only a delivery system for Game Pass. With that branching out to PC, cloud, and wherever else they can put it, the hardware is merely a stopgap. Not saying they will abandon it, just that it is not the focus.

If MS was selling consoles there wouldn't be this talk of consoles aren't the focus. They'd be shouting it from the rooftops if they'd sold more than Playstation.
Even if Game Pass is the goal, they need to sell consoles to sell Game Pass or else they'd just be giving their games away to PC users for almost free. They'd might as well be 3rd party. Which I wouldn't want. This is too much fun.

 

[Gavon West]

They are not trying to sell Hardware? What is Lockheart, One X, XSX than? Whoever sells most hardware has the most users, most subs most revenue...MS wants to sell as many as possible, saying otherwise is ignoring reality.

Unless, of course, they're simply giving the consumer options on how and where they want to play their games - including - console, if thats what one prefers. Stagnant hardware is in the past there, bruv, Its all about the accessibility through various entry points inside their ecosystem. Hardware is a matter of fact for Sony. It's simply an option for Microsoft.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

Amd Jaguar CPU bottlenecked games

 

[spatialawareness]

Unless, of course, they're simply giving the consumer options on how and where they want to play their games - including - console, if thats what one prefers. Stagnant hardware is in the past there, bruv, Its all about the accessibility through various entry points inside their ecosystem. Hardware is a matter of fact for Sony. It's simply an option for Microsoft.

You literally talked around and ignored my point entirely..says it all...MS is not the only company that has services, Sony is using both...and what they are doing is clearly working, MS. Stagnant hardware, thats why XSX exists...lol. You already have choice, tonnes on were to buy/play games, have you looked outside the Xbox window at all? There is a big world out there . Way more people are not choosing MS then chosinng MS..ask yourself why.

 

[Gavon West]

Boy are you in for a shock when World wide sales picture starts to form. None of MS new studios have proven to be near the level f ND/SSM, etc..you are dilusional. There is far more then making AAA game of that caliber then buying a couple of smaller studios....

Youre fucking dreaming if you dont think Xbox has just as competent - even moreso - stable of AAA devs at their disposal now. And they arent even done head hunting for developers. Hellblade II, Infinite aren't even scratching the surface. I can guarantee you that.

As Ive stated before, Sony will have their usual bangers come next gen. That's a given. But what many arent expecting is for Xbox to have them as well. Thats where I change the flavor of my coffee creamer next gen; from Irish Creme, to Sony Fanboy tears ala mode'. Walmart had that shit on sale 2 for $3.

Had to get it!

 

[spatialawareness]

Tis also gives credence to Jason Schrier saying MS was behind on dev kits, they dont have any next gen games ready...why even launch a new console when you don't have anything for it?

 

[spatialawareness]

Youre fucking dreaming if you dont think Xbox has just as competent - even moreso - stable of AAA devs at their disposal now. And they arent even done head hunting for developers. Hellblade II, Infinite aren't even scratching the surface. I can guarantee you that.

As Ive stated before, Sony will have their usual bangers come next gen. That's a given. But what many arent expecting is for Xbox to have them as well. Thats where I change the flavor of my coffee creamer next gen; from Irish Creme, to Sony Fanboy tears ala mode'. Walmart had that shit on sale 2 for $3.

Had to get it!

Only one dreaming here is you...the guys who made we happy few, and in exile is not exactly the same as having SSM, ND in your staple... Just buying studios is just step 1, you need great minds, creativity, and know how to grow, and nuture that talent. Sony has done this, MS has not near as well. You are clearly a huge fanboy based on your ""Sony Tears" nonsense, are you a child? I sure hope so.

 

[Panajev2001a]

The fuck you talking about dude? Its a good thing Sony is finally going all in on BC In my opinion.

Finally? PS2, PSP, PSVita, PS3... and PS5
Is your “finally” heh.

(you quoted a console reset for giving the “underdog” a chance and showing how much console generation are also pro competition and thus pro consumer yet advocate for generationless iterative hardware on the odd days )

 

[Gavon West]

You literally talked around and ignored my point entirely..says it all...MS is not the only company that has services, Sony is using both...and what they are doing is clearly working, MS. Stagnant hardware, thats why XSX exists...lol. You already have choice, tonnes on were to buy/play games, have you looked outside the Xbox window at all? There is a big world out there . Way more people are not choosing MS then chosinng MS..ask yourself why.

Yeah but Sony's GP offering is pretty weak at the moment and has been for years! They can't compete with day and date releases. They can't afford to for that matter.

Lemme explain this to you, genius. XSX isnt stagnant hardware. Its one entry point into an entire ecosystem. Xbox is now a platform. not just a box under your television set. No one was running from your incompetent post. I just reality checked that shit and you only saw what you wanted to see, per the typical Sony fanboy. It's all good though, my guy! If you dont wanna see that huge fucking asteroid headed for that pointed end of your befuddled dome, you aint gotta! Who am I to judge?

 

[Gavon West]

Only one dreaming here is you...the guys who made we happy few, and in exile is not exactly the same as having SSM, ND in your staple... Just buying studios is just step 1, you need great minds, creativity, and know how to grow, and nuture that talent. Sony has done this, MS has not near as well. You are clearly a huge fanboy based on your ""Sony Tears" nonsense, are you a child? I sure hope so.

So let me get this right; its irrelevant that Microsoft bought seasoned veterans to make games for them? Like, all the knowledge and expertise theyve acquired over long extensive careers, theyve simply forgotten since theyve been acquired. And now all of them have to start from scratch with game development 101? Lets not even mention that Microsoft gives them all the creative freedom, time and resources they will ever need - thus - not touching a single hair on the culture of these devs, because..........Sony???

...and, yeah! I was trolling you with the "Sony Tears ala Mode" coffee creamer. Take it easy, champ. Lol

 

[Aidah]

Amd Jaguar CPU bottlenecked games

I think HDD that is 1/40th the speed of next gen storage is an even bigger issue, since the faster storage probably has the most potential to change game design in a more meaningful way. A game's core design can't depend on the faster storage if it also has to work on super slow storage, if you want to keep the core experience intact in both versions.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

So let me get this right; its irrelevant that Microsoft bought seasoned veterans to make games for them? Like, all the knowledge and expertise theyve acquired over long extensive careers, theyve simply forgotten since theyve been acquired. And now all of them have to start from scratch with game development 101? Lets not even mention that Microsoft gives them all the creative freedom, time and resources they will ever need - thus - not touching a single hair on the culture of these devs, because..........Sony???

...and, yeah! I was trolling you with the "Sony Tears ala Mode" coffee creamer. Take it easy, champ. Lol

"Xbox is now a platform" Because it wasn't one before

Compulsion games and Double Fine are not in the same arena Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica

 

[spatialawareness]

Amd Jaguar CPU bottlenecked games

Yep, Digital Foundry saying this as well as developers on Twitter.

 

[Gavon West]

"Xbox is now a platform" Because it wasn't one before

Compulsion games and Double Fine are not in the same arena Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica

Maybe so. For now. But Ninja Theory, Obsidian, Playground Games, The Coalition, 343i and Initiative are.

Again, you see what you wanna see.

Funny how you try to clown Xbox for being a platform when Sony is aping the same strategy, genius! LOL!

 

[spatialawareness]

So let me get this right; its irrelevant that Microsoft bought seasoned veterans to make games for them? Like, all the knowledge and expertise theyve acquired over long extensive careers, theyve simply forgotten since theyve been acquired. And now all of them have to start from scratch with game development 101? Lets not even mention that Microsoft gives them all the creative freedom, time and resources they will ever need - thus - not touching a single hair on the culture of these devs, because..........Sony???

...and, yeah! I was trolling you with the "Sony Tears ala Mode" coffee creamer. Take it easy, champ. Lol

It's like you cannot even read...gonna ignore. You ignore everything I said and bring up nonsensical points lol.

 

[spatialawareness]

Maybe so. For now. But Ninja Theory, Obsidian, Playground Games, The Coalition, 343i and Initiative are.

Again, you see what you wanna see.

Funny how you try to clown Xbox for being a platform when Sony is aping the same strategy, genius! LOL!

LOLOLOL..sure jan. Playground are good, but it's racing, it's just not a needle mover. The rest are not even close

 

[fermcr]

Yep. The NO exclusives Philosophy essentially gives the idea to most people that Xbox Series X is update console like the Xbox One X was.
If you're the average joe, what will you purchase... the NEW console PS5 or the Xbox One updated console, called Xbox Series X?

 

[Gavon West]

LOLOLOL..sure jan. Playground are good, but it's racing, it's just not a needle mover. The rest are not even close

I could say the same thing about ND Santa Monica and the majority of Sony's devs. But I digress...

 

[Dory16]

Xbox has all the negatives of a console without the positives. Games not designed specifically for the console which means they'll not be as optimized as in consoles, no real exclusives since everything is ported to PC but still paying for online (which btw is a Microsoft invention), closed system, store monopoly, no mods and so on. Taking into account all the ridiculous disadvantages this console has compared to PC that is trying to become without the hassle of, you know, treating customers better, you should just build a decent PC connect it to your TV and have a FAR better gaming machine than this bullshit.

A "decent PC" is not even going to come close to matching the Series x in power. You have every right to say it's not for you. The good news is you don't have to renounce playing xbox games just for that reason. MS is giving you at least 5 other ways to enjoy them.
Lol @ "not as optimised as in consoles". Which game? when did you play it to judge the optimization? Was Gears 5 "not as optimized" as in consoles because it wasn't "designed specifically" for the X?
Respectfully, you don't make any sense.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

LOLOLOL..sure jan. Playground are good, but it's racing, it's just not a needle mover. The rest are not even close

Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon 4 recently eclipsed 10 million players, they still have an impact regardless. Also Playground Games are developing a non-racing game, they have a second studio.

 

[Hendrick's]

If MS was selling consoles there wouldn't be this talk of consoles aren't the focus. They'd be shouting it from the rooftops if they'd sold more than Playstation.
Even if Game Pass is the goal, they need to sell consoles to sell Game Pass or else they'd just be giving their games away to PC users for almost free. They'd might as well be 3rd party. Which I wouldn't want. This is too much fun.

They are selling consoles. They have 50 million Xbox Ones in the wild. They don't need to be on top in hardware to compete in the emerging model of games as a service. Ultimately, traditional console gaming is on its way out, it's inevitable. I give them credit for understanding their strengths and weaknesses and focusing where they can find an edge.

 

[Dory16]

i'll just leave this list:

Flower
Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
Resogun
Sound Shapes
Escape Plan
Flow

All of them could have played on the ps3 without losing any of their qualities on ps4, like Little Big planet 3 or COD Ghosts did.
If you believe being PS4 exclusive added anything to the quality of Knack then I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Vawn]

Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon 4 recently eclipsed 10 million players, they still have an impact regardless. Also Playground Games are developing a non-racing game, they have a second studio.

That means nothing for basically free to play games and being a "player" just means downloading it once, even if you realize it's not great and immediately delete it.

MS loves to give out misleading numbers. Anything but actual sales data.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

That means nothing for basically free to play games and being a "player" just means downloading it once, even if you realize it's not great and immediately delete it.

MS loves to give out misleading numbers. Anything but actual sales data.

You mean like Gran Turismo Sport which has been $15 since basically 60 days after release, and has also adopted player number metrics instead of traditional sales volumes?

You meld your perspective differently depending on where you're looking.

 

[Dory16]

No blind fanboying here I'm just an educated consumer, a core gamer, and still waiting for MS to figure out how to sell me an Xbox.

Bro it's not that big a deal if you buy an xbox or not.

 

[Clear]

We'll see about those "straggling" studios come next gen when Sony finds themselves scrambling to find out how they allowed Microsoft to match and/or surpass their own first party stable of developers. Or how they allowed them to creamate them in the hardware department. Or how GP makes PS Now continue to look like an after thought. Or how Xcloud in connection with GP stomps a mud hole in Sony's ass in areas where Xbox was never even taken seriously.

Next gen is going to be a shocker for Sony fans. I can't wait! The gaming forums will be an absolute joy to read with my coffee.

Such optimism! Kinda think you are going to be disappointed though.

Its really up to Sony to win or lose it. They execute correctly and MS has no chance, because the plain fact is they've basically cruised this gen. MS has been throwing the kitchen sink at trying to regain leadership and in the end, what's really changed?

 

[Smoke6]

Yeah I’m sorry but MS has nowhere close near the level and talent Sony has with its stable of games and devs!

I can’t believe y’all brought up ninja theory after the shit talked about them after they released their launch game on PS3 Heavenly Sword!

Then their second release that was multi platform Enslaved had a warm reception on Xbox when it was released but I don’t hear anyone asking for a sequel to that game at all!

I’m pretty sure someone is working on a more detailed post comparing the studios and output and we can put that to and end!

But it doesn’t make sense to release a console with no exclusive games after releasing the X1X just a little while ago which still cost a nice bit of change!

So I’m sure you guys upgrade the model of your phones and cars on a yearly basis then going by some of the comments made here?

I get it that you’re a fan of one particular console but to make sense out the shit that MS is doing is crazy!

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

I could say the same thing about ND Santa Monica and the majority of Sony's devs. But I digress...

Except you can't, All of Sony's studios perform. I really want to know what makes you so adamant about Microsofts position and why you're so loyal to them?
They don't have a very long history, we've yet to see what these studios they bought can do, their output this gen has been pretty weak all things considered. They've done some good things to benefit the consumer but that's about it. Unless you really love Gears, Halo, or Forza which is totally fine I don't see what the attachment is all about
Not even looking for flamebait or anything. I really wanna know. I'm listening.

 

[Potato Chip PRO]

Regardless of the lack of PURE SX exclusives, I'd still end up playing more 3rd party games the majority of time.. Thx to BC, I'll play Doom Eternal, Tales of Arise, Halo Infinite and Elden Ring while it plays a little better on the SX. I'm not bothered by this one bit!

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Such optimism! Kinda think you are going to be disappointed though.

Its really up to Sony to win or lose it. They execute correctly and MS has no chance, because the plain fact is they've basically cruised this gen. MS has been throwing the kitchen sink at trying to regain leadership and in the end, what's really changed?

Yeah 2019 was Sony executing alright, Days Gone was terrible, Shenmue III was terrible and bombed, Death Stranding was decent and charted at #7 for one week and then vanished because of how niche its appeal is.

Sony can't execute every year, there's holes, I mean they really didn't take off game wise and find a rhythm until 2017 for the PS4. Sure there was Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 but that's two games over three years.

No one can consistently deliver with things that take years to make, no one is free from this and that includes Sony.

 

[Mahadev]

And yet the PC version is always better than the console version. Where is the advantage? Those days are dead, my friend.

What PC version? The version of the PC with the 1000 dollar card? Is this comparison fair or even serious? And btw even with that insanely expensive hardware that exists on PC nowadays exclusive games like Uncharted 4 gave the best looking PC games a run for their money in the graphics department during their time.

Never seen so much rubbish packed into one post. Must also paint devil's horns on the Xbox logo in your free time. There's no disadvantage or downside in other people with a different platform being able to play a game you enjoy. If you're playing a thoroughly fantastic game on your xbox does it matter if someone else is able to play on PC or Xbox One consoles? Why would you really care other than for petty reasons? Xbox Series X owners can still play and enjoy the game. For Xbox owners that's a game that brings value to their purchase. The game or platform you play it on is no less valuable just because others are able to play it elsewhere.

I'm also skeptical how much of an authority you are on how "optimized" games will be for new xbox consoles. If they're running 4K at pc max settings at a flawless performance clip do you consider THAT as "optimized"? We are that point now with console performance. We are getting the highest quality settings from here on out on both PS5 and Xbox Series X, and that's a great thing.

You've literally offered no arguments for 2 paragraphs. Like someone else mentioned, if you think that a game developed from the ground up for a super fast SSD and new GPU and CPU architectures that can be 10 times faster than those from a decade ago will have the same optimization and most important the same type of limitations as one that also must be compatible with hardware from 8 years ago I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Vawn]

You mean like Gran Turismo Sport which has been $15 since basically 60 days after release, and has also adopted player number metrics instead of traditional sales volumes?

You meld your perspective differently depending on where you're looking.

When did they hide the sales numbers?

Gran Turismo Sport topped the UK all-formats physical sales charts for one week,[51] selling nearly three times as many copies as Forza Motorsport 7.[52] It did the same in Japan[53] and New Zealand, and ranked number 2 in Australia.[54] During its first week on sale in Japan, Gran Turismo Sport sold 150,286 copies, which placed it at number one on the all format sales chart.[55]

The game reached number one on the Japanese download sales charts,[56] number two in Europe,[57] and number five in the United States.[58]

By May 2018, the game had sold around 3.3 million copies worldwide.[59] As of December 2018, the game had around 7.5 million players worldwide.[60] By June 2019, Gran Turismo Sport had sold an estimated eight million copies.[61]

Gran Turismo Sport - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

How's that for "On Fire" Gavon West ?

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

Regardless of the lack of PURE SX exclusives, I'd still end up playing more 3rd party games the majority of time.. Thx to BC, I'll play Doom Eternal, Tales of Arise, Halo Infinite and Elden Ring while it plays a little better on the SX. I'm not bothered by this one bit!

I hear that. I want a Next Gen console for the purposes of playing current gen games better as well. But I choose to go with Sony because I want to play their current gen games on the next gen platform as well as 3rd parties.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

When did they hide the sales numbers?

Gran Turismo Sport topped the UK all-formats physical sales charts for one week,[51] selling nearly three times as many copies as Forza Motorsport 7.[52] It did the same in Japan[53] and New Zealand, and ranked number 2 in Australia.[54] During its first week on sale in Japan, Gran Turismo Sport sold 150,286 copies, which placed it at number one on the all format sales chart.[55]

The game reached number one on the Japanese download sales charts,[56] number two in Europe,[57] and number five in the United States.[58]

By May 2018, the game had sold around 3.3 million copies worldwide.[59] As of December 2018, the game had around 7.5 million players worldwide.[60] By June 2019, Gran Turismo Sport had sold an estimated eight million copies.[61]

Gran Turismo Sport - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

That's all third party hypothesis for sales volumes, not what's coming from Sony or Polyphony Digital.

This is the kind of stuff they've been releasing. Don't play dumb, you're well aware of this.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

No one can consistently deliver with things that take years to make, no one is free from this and that includes Sony.

Sure they can it's all about timing,
Even if not I'll take 4 out of 5 years of good games over 5 years of nothing.

 

[Potato Chip PRO]

I hear that. I want a Next Gen console for the purposes of playing current gen games better as well. But I choose to go with Sony because I want to play their current gen games on the next gen platform as well as 3rd parties.

I completely understand and agree with your choice of going for Sony, infact I can't wait to own both.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Sure they can it's all about timing,
Even if not I'll take 4 out of 5 years of good games over 5 years of nothing.

Not everything will always line up, development delays happen. It's not a fixed calendar where everything always goes to plan. Droughts happen on every platform, every system which are filled by third parties, and it doesn't matter where you game.

 

[SleepDoctor]

You really cant have any type of civil discussion regarding these consoles lol.

It just brings out the stupid in some people. If this were the other way around, itd literally be the same shit just roles reversed with Sony fanboys defending the strategy and xbox fanboys with the pitchforks out .

Y'all really take this shit too seriously

 

[Panajev2001a]

Yeah 2019 was Sony executing alright, Days Gone was terrible, Shenmue III was terrible and bombed, Death Stranding was decent and charted at #7 for one week and then vanished because of how niche its appeal is.

Mix of games that were good and sold great (look at those Days Gone sour grapes there ), great and acclaimed new IP’s like Death Stranding, etc... if this is a bad year, well... looking forward to the mere decent ones.
Shenmue III is satisfying its fans and fulfilled its KS expectations no matter the FUD thrown at it, I am glad Sony supported them and gave them a spotlight and support.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Mix of games that were good and sold great (look at those Days Gone sour grapes there ), great and acclaimed new IP’s like Death Stranding, etc... if this is a bad year, well... looking forward to the mere decent ones.
Shenmue III is satisfying its fans and fulfilled its KS expectations no matter the FUD thrown at it, I am glad Sony supported them and gave them a spotlight and support.

Revisionist history won't save you from reality my dude. 2019 was not a great year for them, a low 70's scoring game, a high 60's scoring game, and what was supposed to be this groundbreaking revelation in gaming that people talked up to no end for years ending up in the low 80's.

P.S. Shenmue III did not, they completely omitted Baisha Village from the game which was a stretch goal that the campaign reached.