molasar
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LOL. No, they could not as it is not for sale. And it is worth more than $6.5bn but not all its shares are on a market.
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The current state of MS game studios and games roster.
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LOL. No, they could not as it is not for sale. And it is worth more than $6.5bn but not all its shares are on a market.
LittleBusters
Banned
Microsoft should buy Take 2 Interactive & CDPR all in one fell swoop destroy Sony.
Darlingcognito
Member
I'm really excited for what Rare, The initiative, Obsidian, Playground games and Ninja Theory have planned for the coming console. I think these 5 have the most potential for something fresh which is kinda what their other major studios need but are stuck doing Halo and Gears.
The coalition could surprise me if they started something apart from Gears.
The coalition could surprise me if they started something apart from Gears.
Havoc2049
Member
The "worst offender" label for micro-transactions is a little extreme. What games are you talking about? I’ve played tons of Halo: MCC, Halo 5 and Sea of Thieves this gen and they didn’t feel that way at all.
Darlingcognito
Member
Aye I play Sea of thieves a lot and micropurchases are really insigficant, its nice to have them as a bonus but doesnt affect the gameplay in any way.
I think people just like to generalise without actually playing the games and experiencing any of these things themselves.
Great Hair
Banned
I figured, and I'm not surprised to hear that 500 mill budget is a lie. I just don't see how any game today can cost that much, even with a HUGE marketing budget. Even if you put 200 mill into marketing (which is an insane amount to begin with), I just don't see how the other 300 mill comes into play, even if you're building a new engine from scratch.
HaveButOneLife
Banned
My brain hurts reading the OP.
TBiddy
Member
Do elaborate.
SaucyJack
Member
Dude., seriously? Laudable aim but you blew it within two sentences
Anyway, FWIW I believe what MS really needs to do is allow its studios the time and freedom to create against their own visions. I fear that MS are a bit too command and control to let this happen.
HaveButOneLife
Banned
Short sentenced paragraphs without any elaboration, only blind praise. It's cringey.
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Rightisright
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There is a ton of open positions with MSs studios at the moment.
Open positions at Xbox Game Studios: Playground Games: 92+
Rare: 27+
Obsidian: 23+
Turn 10 Studios: 16+
The Coalition: 14+
The Initiative: 13+
Mojang: 9+
343: 8+
Ninja Theory: 6+
Double Fine: 3+
World's Edge: 3+
As you said, Playground are working up to 400 employees. Generally a good quality studio that puts out a game every 2 to 3 years will have about 200 employees.
When you look at Sony's top studios yo have ND with 316, Sucker Punch with 200, Insomniac with 275, Guerilla Games with 250 with an eye to build to 400, and Santa Monica with around 200.
So Playground are obviously looking at developing two games at a time. At this point FH and Fable you would think.
The interesting one is 343i with over 500 employees. Thats one hell of a big studio just working on Halo.
Rightisright
Banned
Yeah I confused it with another company. But all shares have to be accounted for in their market cap. You are either a fully traded company or you are privately held.
Rightisright
Banned
There is a difference between saying there is a gap and what do they have to do to close it, vs having peanut Sony fanboys just slagging off, as they tend to do.
Rightisright
Banned
Thanks.
molasar
Banned
It is a publicly traded company (actually its mother company as it is the most likely way to get it) but I meant that not all its shares are available on a market. So there is no guarantee to get a control stock even if you offer to pay a premium price.
IDappa
Member
for starters the micros in gears 4 and halo are easy to obtain freely. I cannot comment on forza but I haven’t seen anyone majorly upset over their micro’s. SoT has only just brought in micro’s a year later.
Microsoft’s micro-transactions are far from egregious. Now let’s see no micro-transaction good guy Sony has been doing. It’s funny that they charge for in game boosts (pay to win) and you don’t bat an eye. Stop being so biased.
The Last of Us is still pay-to-win in 2019
The Last of Us' microtransactions are still a cause for concern in 2019. While the game is currently available for free through PS Plus, its pay-to-win features remain locked.
www.gamerevolution.com
PS4 racer Driveclub has microtransactions and here's how they work
You can use real money to unlock cars early, but not to purchase in-game "Fame" credits.
www.gamespot.com
Gran Turismo 6 has Microtransactions, but it’s Not What You Think
Despite including in-app purchases, Sony insists this is entirely optional.
primagames.com
Microtransactions Have Arrived in Gran Turismo Sport
Yes, you've read that title correctly. Real-cash purchases have arrived in Gran Turismo Sport. Players in our community first started noticing it a handful of hours before the latest v1.23 update hit. Japanese GT fans were posting images of individual cars from GT Sport they found on the PlayStat
www.gtplanet.net
Uncharted 4 Multiplayer to Include Microtransactions "From the Outset"
But all gameplay items can be earned with in-game currency; Multiplayer to render at 900p60; Naughty Dog suggests Uncharted 4 will be studio's last again.
www.gamespot.com
Great Hair
Banned
So we have
GT6 "skip the grind" mtx
U4 MP mtx
TLOU1 MP mtx
DriveClub mtx
versus
Halo 4 mtx "skip the grind"
Halo 5 mtx "skip the grind"
Halo 6 mtx "skip the grind"
Forza 5
Forza 6
Forza 7
Forza Horizon 3 "yield good reviews, add post launch mtx"
Forza Horizon 4 "yield good reviews, add post launch mtx"
Sea of Thieves
Ryse of Rome
Gears 4 "skip the grind"
Gears 5 "skip the grind"
Windows 10 ads everywhere
Microsoft paying youtubers for good reviews ... controversy
Microsoft paying polygon for what ever reasons ..
Kinect spycam, have a quick looksy 2014
Kinect spycam, have a quick looksy 2019
no used games
Microsoft hires mtx expert
Elite Controller 1 issues $150
Elite Controller 2 issues $200
RROD
Shitty policies 90 day guarantee
promises prestine VR on Scarlett
High Quality 69bit never seen before PIXELS
retarded parity clause
whiny attitude whole generation "crossplay, playtogether with Nintendo" ...
misleads halo fans with Halo 5 commercials (removes them from the xbox channel)
misleads everyone about the POWA of DA CLOUD
Crackdown 3 ....
etc. etc. since 2009
4 titles (and shitty drms) on one side, 15+ in the green corner + the other stuff. Sony comparatively has a clean sheet.
mod edit: There is a healthy middle ground for subtle bias to add weighting to points that matter to you as an individual, but this is crossing into tabloid reporting. This crosses from bias into prejudice. Be more holistic. Off the top of an impartial head for example, you have omitted the failed playstation TV, Sony's affectation for censorship, the controller battery life, jet engine noise etc. Keep the focus narrow or add 'the othe rstuff' for both sides please or you won't last long in these type of threads.
GT6 "skip the grind" mtx
U4 MP mtx
TLOU1 MP mtx
DriveClub mtx
versus
Halo 4 mtx "skip the grind"
Halo 5 mtx "skip the grind"
Halo 6 mtx "skip the grind"
Forza 5
Forza 6
Forza 7
Forza Horizon 3 "yield good reviews, add post launch mtx"
Forza Horizon 4 "yield good reviews, add post launch mtx"
Sea of Thieves
Ryse of Rome
Gears 4 "skip the grind"
Gears 5 "skip the grind"
Windows 10 ads everywhere
Microsoft paying youtubers for good reviews ... controversy
Microsoft paying polygon for what ever reasons ..
Kinect spycam, have a quick looksy 2014
Kinect spycam, have a quick looksy 2019
no used games
Microsoft hires mtx expert
Elite Controller 1 issues $150
Elite Controller 2 issues $200
RROD
Shitty policies 90 day guarantee
promises prestine VR on Scarlett
High Quality 69bit never seen before PIXELS
retarded parity clause
whiny attitude whole generation "crossplay, playtogether with Nintendo" ...
misleads halo fans with Halo 5 commercials (removes them from the xbox channel)
misleads everyone about the POWA of DA CLOUD
Crackdown 3 ....
etc. etc. since 2009
4 titles (and shitty drms) on one side, 15+ in the green corner + the other stuff. Sony comparatively has a clean sheet.
mod edit: There is a healthy middle ground for subtle bias to add weighting to points that matter to you as an individual, but this is crossing into tabloid reporting. This crosses from bias into prejudice. Be more holistic. Off the top of an impartial head for example, you have omitted the failed playstation TV, Sony's affectation for censorship, the controller battery life, jet engine noise etc. Keep the focus narrow or add 'the othe rstuff' for both sides please or you won't last long in these type of threads.
Bladed Thesis
Member
This ain't it, chief.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sony has made just as many baseball games than all Gears, Forzas and Halos combined.
Rightisright
Banned
So with the rumours that Zenimax is up for sale, and both Sony and MS being linked to them, it could well be the start of the great studio buyout craze.
Currently we have seen both MS and Sony buy a mid size developer here and there, and growing their studio portfolio bit by bit.
If a big one like Zenimax goes down, that's massive. The cost would be 2-3billion you would think.
The minute a big one like that goes down to either MS, Sony or Google, just watch the chaos that ensures with everyone else trying to match it.
Currently we have seen both MS and Sony buy a mid size developer here and there, and growing their studio portfolio bit by bit.
If a big one like Zenimax goes down, that's massive. The cost would be 2-3billion you would think.
The minute a big one like that goes down to either MS, Sony or Google, just watch the chaos that ensures with everyone else trying to match it.
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Kagey K
Banned
So make games boring and mindless and turn the graphics up to 11?
Fuck fun, just make movies with interactive checkpoints? No thanks.
IDappa
Member
I never said that was all of Sony’s mtx games, it was just a simple 5 minute google search to prove you were Sony’s bitch. I didn’t think you’d prove that point for me with your very next post. If you have some hate towards Microsoft that’s fine but atleast try to hide it better.
I could reply to everyone of your points and prove Sony is on par or worse but I get the feeling you don’t care. I feel sorry for people like you that have to make themselves feel better about their purchases.