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[Chairman Tickles]

I am under the impression that you are trolling cause there is no way anyone with half a brain could look at how China's government operates and not have "authoritarian" come to mind.

You're much more likely to be arrested, put in prison, abused by police, put on a no fly list...in the US. So...thank you, come again.

Lol, I put up some internationally sanctioned stats that show the epidemic is slowing down, and the first response was 'muh authoritarianz' followed by fledgling character assassination to distract from the facts. Maybe you're all the bad guy. Even Trumpkins and Penceling have lauded China's openness on this epidemic. Who to believe hmm.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

seems like Cambodia will allow that wayward cruise ship to dock and allow people to go home

 

[Smiles and Cries]

inside stories


tickets not paid for when US evacurates you to one of those military bases lol smh $1k per person
Demark too you must pay

 

[MrRogers]

Almost 15,000 comfirmed cases in hubei province alone today, with 242 deaths. The question is, why are they releasing realish numbers now?

 

[Dthomp]

Almost 15,000 comfirmed cases in hubei province alone today, with 242 deaths. The question is, why are they releasing realish numbers now?

They've finally accepted that they are for a better word...fucked?

 

[vpance]

So they started including clinically diagnosed cases starting today, which caused the spike.

Full explanation at the link
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...ted-positive-coronavirus-treated-small-number

 

[GAMETA]

IT'S HAPPENING, FOLKS. IT'S H-A-P-P-E-N-I-N-G!

 

[Kadayi]

Coronavirus: Ninth case found in UK

A woman who flew into London from China is being treated at a hospital in central London.

www.bbc.com

She developed symptoms after landing at Heathrow, called NHS 111 and then tested positive.

Basically they're going to have to track down all the staff, passengers on her flight etc

 

[bitbydeath]

IT'S HAPPENING, FOLKS. IT'S H-A-P-P-E-N-I-N-G!

That’s fucking scary numbers right there, is there a statement on this sudden influx?

 

[Captain Zyrain]

That’s fucking scary numbers right there, is there a statement on this sudden influx?

The reason for the sharp increase is because Hubei province is now including clinically diagnosed cases in the number of confirmed cases. This means those cases are not laboratory confirmed. They say other provinces are doing the same.

 

[Insane Metal]

What is the difference??

 

[bitbydeath]

The province said it is starting to include "clinically diagnosed" cases in its figures and that 13,332 of the new cases fall under that classification.

There we go.
Doesn’t explain the jump in deaths though. They recategorise that too?

I also heard that WHO is now in China, they might be correcting their figures. Tomorrow’s numbers will be interesting.

 

[GAMETA]

That’s fucking scary numbers right there, is there a statement on this sudden influx?

They are considering confirmed those who show the symptoms but are not clinically tested.

So yeah, there wasn't a sudden increase in terms of new infected people, but today's number is probably closer to what the real numbers are. Scary stuff.

 

[bitbydeath]

What is the difference??

Yesterday
1638 New cases
94 Deaths

Today
14,840 New cases
242 Deaths

 

[GAMETA]

There we go.
Doesn’t explain the jump in deaths though. They recategorise that too?

I also heard that WHO is now in China, they might be correcting their figures. Tomorrow’s numbers will be interesting.

Considering it's China, maybe they're trying to make their lies less evident once the real numbers inevitably start to appear.

"Oh look, thousands more than what we reported? Oh that's 'cos we were using a different count method"

 

[Insane Metal]

Yesterday
1638 New cases
94 Deaths

Today
14,840 New cases
242 Deaths

I mean what's the difference between clinical confirmation and laboratory. Is clinical wrong?

 

[vpance]

I mean what's the difference between clinical confirmation and laboratory. Is clinical wrong?

Clinical was just the standard they were using for the rest of the country. Now they applied it to Hubei province also. Obviously they weren't doing that to keep the numbers much lower.

There we go.
Doesn’t explain the jump in deaths though. They recategorise that too?

I also heard that WHO is now in China, they might be correcting their figures. Tomorrow’s numbers will be interesting.

The likely reason for the spike in deaths is they were under reporting deaths in the first place. Hard to reclassify what a dead person is, even for the CCP, lol

 

[GAMETA]

I mean what's the difference between clinical confirmation and laboratory. Is clinical wrong?

There has to be a margin for error but I suspect, giving how the disease's been spreading and how most suspected were in fact infected, it's pretty safe to assume the numbers predict correctly.

What we don't know is if these numbers are being downplayed by China...

 

[darkinstinct]

I mean what's the difference between clinical confirmation and laboratory. Is clinical wrong?

No, clinical diagnosis is the existence of pneumonia. The test just tells that you could get it. Clinical confirmation doesn't mean that those case are actually infected, but the sheer number means it's probably the case. But it's also a one-time effect because of the backlog. Tomorrow's numbers should be closer to 1.500 new cases.

 

[bitbydeath]

No, clinical diagnosis is the existence of pneumonia. The test just tells that you could get it. Clinical confirmation doesn't mean that those case are actually infected, but the sheer number means it's probably the case. But it's also a one-time effect because of the backlog. Tomorrow's numbers should be closer to 1.500 new cases.

Tomorrows numbers will be interesting to see if it were backlog or not.

 

[VertigoOA]

Holy shit

 

[VertigoOA]

Now I hope there’s a wall around the entire fucking country... forget about just the southern border.

 

[Grinchy]

Did this really happen because of idiots eating bats?

 

[Narasumas]

Now I hope there’s a wall around the entire fucking country... forget about just the southern border.

Wow not gonna lie...these suggested numbers now using the clinical diagnosis standard kinda spook me.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I understand the changes for the cases Spike
but why did the death double?

 

[dolabla]

A San Diego lab is saying they have created a vaccine for the coronavirus:

San Diego lab discovers COVID-19 vaccine in 3 hours

Inovio Pharmaceuticals created a vaccine that is going through pre-clinical trials.

www.kvue.com

SAN DIEGO — In a race against the clock, a San Diego lab is scrambling to get a COVID-19 vaccine out and on the market. As the days go by, Inovio Pharmaceuticals is getting closer to releasing the desperately needed vaccine against the deadly virus.

Inovio Pharmaceuticals, which is located in Sorrento Valley, has also created a vaccine for the Zika virus, the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), and the vaccine for Ebola.

Dr. Trevor Smith, who is the director of research and development at Inovio, said, "It's something we are trained to do, and the infrastructure is here and the expertise is in house."

When Chinese scientists released the genetic sequence on Jan. 9, Inovio researchers got to work immediately and within 3 hours they had a vaccine for coronavirus, or COVID-19 as it is now being referred to.

"We have an algorithm which we designed, and we put the DNA sequence into our algorithm and came up with the vaccine in that short amount of time," said Dr. Smith.

The vaccine has been tested on mice and guinea pigs. It will next be tried on a group of human patients.

Scientists hope the vaccine will work like a piece of biological software. In other words, the vaccine will give the human body instructions to create the proper attack in the form of T-cells and antibodies against COVID-19.

If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be made available to the public by early this summer - which would be a record time frame for Inovio Pharmaceuticals.

 

[Liberty4all]

About six weeks ago, China was reporting on the first 41 cases of confirmed #coronavirus in that country. Singapore and Hong Kong have now each hit 50 cases. Modeling suggests that the time from first introduction to epidemic spread is about 10 weeks.

So that means it should breakout in North America end of March or early April... Maybe a little later due to all the preventive measures.

 

[Narasumas]

I understand the changes for the cases Spike
but why did the death double?

I believe clinical diagnosis is when they suspect you have something based on present symptoms, and in this case have switched diagnosis methods bc they lack testing kits. I’d assume the same is being made for deaths too (I.e. - pneumonic, flu like, etc), but I’m not certain.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

A San Diego lab is saying they have created a vaccine for the coronavirus:

San Diego lab discovers COVID-19 vaccine in 3 hours

Inovio Pharmaceuticals created a vaccine that is going through pre-clinical trials.

www.kvue.com

wait, available as early as this Summer?

Bitch when is Spring?!

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

About six weeks ago, China was reporting on the first 41 cases of confirmed #coronavirus in that country. Singapore and Hong Kong have now each hit 50 cases. Modeling suggests that the time from first introduction to epidemic spread is about 10 weeks.

So that means it should breakout in North America end of March or early April... Maybe a little later due to all the preventive measures.

I think there are far too many variables involved to try and accurately guess when (or if) an outbreak will occur in North America based on that data.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

I understand the changes for the cases Spike
but why did the death double?

The deaths should continue to spike, even based off their original numbers. It takes people 10-20 days to die from this usually, so there is a built in lag period (that we don't exactly know yet) and the numbers started to spike a couple of weeks ago.

 

[bitbydeath]

Did this really happen because of idiots eating bats?

Unknown.
It was originally stated to be from someone eating an animal at a farmers market. Most likely a bat.

But apparently they also have a medical pharmacy in Wuhan which led to rumours of it being cooked up.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

The deaths should continue to spike, even based off their original numbers. It takes people 10-20 days to die from this usually, so there is a built in lag period (that we don't exactly know yet) and the numbers started to spike a couple of weeks ago.

ok 200+ in a day is going to take some getting use to

MAINLAND CHINA	Cases	Deaths	Notes	Links
Hubei province (including Wuhan)	48,206	1,310	5,647 serious, 1,437 critical	Source
Other regions	11,287	43	963 serious/critical	Source
TOTAL	59,493	1,353	8,047 serious 5,542 recovered 16,067 suspected

 

[GHG]

I understand the changes for the cases Spike
but why did the death double?

They were previously classifying a lot of deaths under the category of pneumonia instead of the virus which caused the pneumonia. Maybe they've startes classifying the deaths as what they actually are.

God knows how big the death toll actually is when you consider how many days they have reported under the previous system.

 

[Wwg1wga]

90% of Many Common Drugs Made in China

U.S. Imports 90 Percent of its Antibiotics (And Vitamin A) From China By Richard A. McCormack Courtesy of Manufacturing & Technology News China has surpassed the United States as the world's largest manufacturer of bulk drugs, vitamins and nutritional supplements and is now exporting a large portion of its production to the United States

Where Your Drugs Come From: 90% of Many Common Drugs Made in China; FDA has Lost Control | American Jobs Alliance

American consumers have no idea that the majority of the over-the-counter drugs they buy come from China, where there are few regulations. The increasing dependence on China for active pharmaceutical ingredients and nutritional supplements is of growing concern.

www.americanjobsalliance.com

 

[Smiles and Cries]

They were previously classifying a lot of deaths under the category of pneumonia instead of the virus which caused the pneumonia. Maybe they've startes classifying the deaths as what they actually are.

God knows how big the death toll actually is when you consider how many days they have reported under the previous system.

This is a better direction a damn shame they did not do this from the start
If the WHO being in China now had anything to do with these changes, I would feel a little better about their bs talking points.

 

[lyan]

Tomorrows numbers will be interesting to see if it were backlog or not.

I doubt they still have the capacity to diagnose 15k new patients a day so it probably were.

 

[GHG]

Where Your Drugs Come From: 90% of Many Common Drugs Made in China; FDA has Lost Control | American Jobs Alliance

American consumers have no idea that the majority of the over-the-counter drugs they buy come from China, where there are few regulations. The increasing dependence on China for active pharmaceutical ingredients and nutritional supplements is of growing concern.

www.americanjobsalliance.com

This is insane.

Globalisation only works when it's actually global, not overly reliant on a single country for so many things.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

ok 200+ in a day is going to take some getting use to

MAINLAND CHINA	Cases	Deaths	Notes	Links
Hubei province (including Wuhan)	48,206	1,310	5,647 serious, 1,437 critical	Source
Other regions	11,287	43	963 serious/critical	Source
TOTAL	59,493	1,353	8,047 serious 5,542 recovered 16,067 suspected

It's hard to tell with the numbers being all over the place. I'd expect the serious cases to go down first before the deaths go down.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

those who follow charts are going to be in shock for the next update of graphs

like this guy earlier today

 

[Liberty4all]

I think there are far too many variables involved to try and accurately guess when (or if) an outbreak will occur in North America based on that data.

I hope you are right and it’s still an if. Still we went from early December normalcy to full blown disaster in China in basically 10 weeks. Would be foolish at this point not to be buying supplies just in case. Eventually everyone else is too and stuff may start to get hard to get.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

If they are allowing numbers to show higher hope they let these people go

 

[bitbydeath]

I doubt they still have the capacity to diagnose 15k new patients a day so it probably were.

Here’s hoping.

 

[nush]

Where Your Drugs Come From: 90% of Many Common Drugs Made in China; FDA has Lost Control | American Jobs Alliance

American consumers have no idea that the majority of the over-the-counter drugs they buy come from China, where there are few regulations. The increasing dependence on China for active pharmaceutical ingredients and nutritional supplements is of growing concern.

www.americanjobsalliance.com

China:

1. Create killer virus
2. Infect the world
3. Sell the cure
4. Profit!

 

[Captain Zyrain]

China's mouthpiece so, grain of salt, but hopefully this was a 1 time huge jump and not what we should expect going forward. Tomorrow's numbers will be key. If it goes back to a couple thousand then things won't look nearly as bad as they do right now.

Deaths should keep going up for a bit though.

Still haven't seen the mainland China numbers yet either.

 

[bitbydeath]

Just on the mainland numbers.

 

[nush]

Just on the mainland numbers.

"If we wait a bit longer America will be asleep"....

 

[vpance]

Might have to quarantine for a month to be sure.

 

[nush]

Might have to quarantine for a month to be sure.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

man they are really cranking up the spin machine to make these numbers work

they should send out Press Releases with cute Panda Photos while they are at it