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[JaffeLion]

Looks like Sony is going with the same approach as Microsoft:

Sony will continue supporting and developing AAA exclusive games for PS4, even when PS5 launches for a couple of years.

According to Jim Ryan (CEO of SIE): PS4 will have a critical role for Sony and "remain the engine of engagement" until May 2022.

Also, very interesting, now for NEXTGEN is also following Microsofts approach here, providing an alternative to local gaming via Streaming:

It's exactly the same as MS is doing. Allow everyone to buy Discs or Download games, of course, but also allow them to stream games.

For the first time: Streaming will be a mainstream business model for Sony.

Source: https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf

Very interesting how Microsoft and Sony have a very similar, almost identical, approach.

Both will support their current gen console for a couple of years even after the nextgen console launched. And both will invest in Streaming and see it as a "Mainstream Business Model".

 

[DanielsM]

That's old, from the IR presentation last May.

(good luck on all the streaming stuff, btw, not similar to me... sony isn't giving up its hardware business)

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

Streaming eh. They must be in trouble and are looking to get out of the console business. Playstation's on its last legs. (Insert any other narrative used against MS here)

 

[AV]

That's not what it says. It says the PS4 still has exclusive games to come, NOT that there will be PS4 exclusives after the launch of the PS5

I had to make it bigger because some people are thick as pigshit, don't check the source or other thread posts, just dive headfirst in assuming OP is correct

 

[Stuart360]

Let the backpeddling commence!

 

[Birdo]

Most actual consumers: *Buys FIFA and COD*

 

[mejin]

 

[DonJorginho]

"Outstanding roster of exclusive AAA games still to come"

Jim Ryan meant at the time of this DATED presentation btw, Death Stranding The Last Of Us 2 and Ghost Of Tsushima you clown OP.

Tag this post as Clickbait imo.

 

[DanielsM]

[Polygon] Sony Investor Relation's Day

The PlayStation 4 is still going strong, but as hardware sales begin to decline, Sony is focusing more on the online services and subscriptions that are tied to the platform, the company said today during its annual Investor Relations Day. Polygon reporting in on Sony's IR Day Sony's Investor...

www.neogaf.com

 

[SleepDoctor]

So cross gen exclusives on Ps5 too? Streaming mainstream???

Lets see the fanboys spin this shit around lol

 

[Gamernyc78]

You mean Microsoft has been taking the same approach as Sony. Sony has had streaming in their system for years and Microsoft has finally decided to catch up and just yell louder.
Also no different to ps3 approach where thy supported the consoles well into two years after the new console was released.

It's what Sony does.

 

[Cyber_hunter026]

Well known Microsoft shill, posts up misinformed, terrible attempt at concern trolling. Color me not surprised by this at all.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Hmm, "engine of engagement" sounds like they'll continue manufacturing PS4 and using it as their entry-level choice for the brand. Nintendo uses the same tactic and it's smart. Get it down to $150-200 and Sony will sail in the blue ocean.

I think the longer they keep the PS4 alive, the better. Sony would benefit greatly from another PS2-like situation and the PS4 fits the bill.

 

[Mr Hyde]

If streaming will be a main staple in the industry going forward, replacing hardware, PS5 will be my last console and I will go full retro after that. I will never embrace streaming when it comes to gaming.

 

[Aion002]

Wow so exclusives are being made for the ps4 until 2022? I thought that Ghost of Tsushima was the last Ps4 "exclusive"....


If so, that's an incredible support from Sony... MS should take notes.

 

[CeeJay]

You mean Microsoft has been taking the same approach as Sony. Sony has had streaming in their system for years and Microsoft has finally decided to catch up and just yell louder.
Also no different to ps3 approach where thy supported the consoles well into two years after the new console was released.

It's what Sony does.

Well yeah, what you say is all correct. I think that the reason for this thread is to point out that Sony are doing what a lot of the hardcore Sony guys have been slating Xbox for.

That's old, from the IR presentation last May.

(good luck on all the streaming stuff, btw, not similar to me... sony isn't giving up its hardware business)

Just because it's from last year doesn't make it null and void. Also WTF are you on about giving up hardware business, neither is Xbox!

 

[TBiddy]

That's not what it says. It says the PS4 still has exclusive games to come, NOT that there will be PS4 exclusives after the launch of the PS5. That would be retarded, they'll be cross-gen.

Agreed. It would make no sense to create games exclusively for the PS4. Do we know if there will be PS5 exclusives at launch or is Sony going the MS route of releasing games as cross-gen in the first year or two?

 

[AV]

Agreed. It would make no sense to create games exclusively for the PS4. Do we know if there will be PS5 exclusives at launch?

Right now we know that Godfall is PS5/PC I think, but yeah, I imagine there will be PS5 exclusives at launch. No promises that they'll be any good. Knack 3 baby!

 

[ManaByte]

(good luck on all the streaming stuff, btw, not similar to me... sony isn't giving up its hardware business)

Neither is MS. Stop that bullshit. It's getting old.

 

[DanielsM]

Well yeah, what you say is all correct. I think that the reason for this thread is to point out that Sony are doing what a lot of the hardcore Sony guys have been slating Xbox for.


Just because it's from last year doesn't make it null and void. Also WTF are you on about giving up hardware business, neither is Xbox!

Yeah you can talk about it, but its already in numerous threads. The reason the OP reposted what already existed he's still battling it out on the console battlefield, that war is over.

(I put him on ignore myself just now)

 

[a multicultural team of v]

 

[Blond]

Wow so exclusives are being made for the ps4 until 2022? I thought that Ghost of Tsushima was the last Ps4 "exclusive"....


If so, that's an incredible support fron Sony... MS should take notes.

Weren't we just shitting on Microsoft for this? I'm not fan of them myself but let's not be hypocritical.

That being said, the PS4 is still showing incredible power all these years later and I wouldn't be mad for extended support since I honestly don't see an immediate upgrade as I have the pro.

 

[Captain Hero]

I'm happy because PS4 at its final transformation and its lifetime can be extended.. I said it before PS4 this year is having a next gen game level like TLOU2 , so I'm with that decision .. now when It comes to streaming my answer is No .. hate any source of streaming it's not future for me

 

[CeeJay]

Yeah you can talk about it, but its already in numerous threads. The reason the OP reposted what already existed he's still battling it out on the console battlefield, that war is over.

Report the thread if its a duplicate. Until it gets locked I will post in this one thanks.

So, you don't disagree with anything from post you quoted then seeing as you didn't bring any rebuttal?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Looks like Sony is going with the same approach as Microsoft:

Sony will continue supporting and developing AAA exclusive games for PS4, even when PS5 launches for a couple of years.

According to Jim Ryan (CEO of SIE): PS4 will have a critical role for Sony and "remain the engine of engagement" until May 2022.

Also, very interesting, now for NEXTGEN is also following Microsofts approach here, providing an alternative to local gaming via Streaming:

It's exactly the same as MS is doing. Allow everyone to buy Discs or Download games, of course, but also allow them to stream games.

For the first time: Streaming will be a mainstream business model for Sony.

Source: https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf

Very interesting how Microsoft and Sony have a very similar, almost identical, approach.

Both will support their current gen console for a couple of years even after the nextgen console launched. And both will invest in Streaming and see it as a "Mainstream Business Model".

Like the online DRM debacle, the first reaction is again “oh, Sony too”?!

Difference between saying PS4 still having exclusive first party titles for 1-2 years and saying PS5 not having exclusive first party titles for 1-2 years will fully ignored?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Weren't we just shitting on Microsoft for this? I'm not fan of them myself but let's not be hypocritical.

That being said, the PS4 is still showing incredible power all these years later and I wouldn't be mad for extended support since I honestly don't see an immediate upgrade as I have the pro.

Saying PS4 would receive additional exclusive first party titles is not saying PS5 would not receive exclusive first party titles. That is the key bit there.

 

[Blond]

Holy shit how have I never seen this?

 

[DanielsM]

Report the thread if its a duplicate. Until it gets locked I will post in this one thanks.

So, you don't disagree with anything from post you quoted then seeing as you didn't bring any rebuttal?

Okay.

This is the sad fact, Microsoft is going to fuck over these people that are digging in the remaining game services because that is what you are buying into... everyone else is already fucked.... no they don't have the same plan as Sony, its services or bust.... and more or less streaming or bust because these services i.e. Game Pass, Xbox Live Gold, etc don't work outside of closed systems. The existing dozen or so stupid people buying games off the Microsoft Store will get shafted just like the Games for Windows Live users got shafted.... I say good. The hardware users have some time, but those hardware users better hope 10s of millions buying streaming services... eventually MS will be out of the heavy hardware console business.

As far as exclusives, I see nothing wrong with MS extending the non-exclusive first party thing for Sexy... they don't have the user base to support a game like Halo Infinite, even with Xbone they don't have the numbers to support Destiny clone i.e. MS Store is shit and they shit on consumers every day... they can't get numbers there. Which shows their strategy outside of streaming is going to go nowhere. Sony doesn't have to do this for most of their titles as most of them are not going to be the size of Halo Infinite, although some games might be cross-gen... either way I see nothing wrong with it.

At the end of the day, Microsoft doesn't have enough users to support something like HI, and they really have no place to put their services other than Xbone.

The End.

 

[Klayzer]

Let the backpeddling commence!

Wow. Just look at all the "Sonygaffers" shitting up a thread/sarcastic.

Weren't you just complaining about the same thing you're doing. What a hypocrite. I'm sure your post doesn't count, because of some mainly a PC player (but always in a protect Xbox from criticism) bullshit reasons. Keep fake pretending its everybody, but the Xcrew shitting up threads.

Also, love the cool shade of green, for the blinders that you wear.

 

[CeeJay]

Saying PS4 would receive additional exclusive first party titles is not saying PS5 would not receive exclusive first party titles. That is the key bit there.

If Sony can carry on releasing some exclusives as cross gen for a couple of years after the release of PS5 then you gotta wonder what the reasons are for not releasing ALL games as cross-gen no? Is it that there are genuine reasons why those exclusive PS5 games won't run on PS4 or is it that Sony are artificially holding back on those PS4 versions to get people to move over to PS5?

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

So about that cross gen exclusive (PS4/PS5) from a SIE WWS that's happening next year with an announcement/trailer soon, wonder which sequel it'd be!

 

[Blond]

Saying PS4 would receive additional exclusive first party titles is not saying PS5 would not receive exclusive first party titles. That is the key bit there.

But if it's first party why wouldn't they port them to PS5 in one way or another? If it's a second or third party I could see that (Still annoyed that Persona 4 never got a PS3 port) but a first party title is bound to be ported at some point.

 

[TBiddy]

Right now we know that Godfall is PS5/PC I think, but yeah, I imagine there will be PS5 exclusives at launch. No promises that they'll be any good. Knack 3 baby!

Will be interesting to see, at least. I don't think I've seen Sony make an official statement regarding cross-gen games yet.

 

[DanielsM]

If Sony can carry on releasing some exclusives as cross gen for a couple of years after the release of PS5 then you gotta wonder what the reasons are for not releasing ALL games as cross-gen no? Is it that there are genuine reasons why those exclusive PS5 games won't run on PS4 or is it that Sony are artificially holding back on those PS4 versions to get people to move over to PS5?

Some games will be cross-gen some won't, this basically happens every cycle now.

What's the problem?

With the ability to just target PS4 and playable on PS5 makes it more likely you'll see more cross-gen.

 

[Shin]

SIE believes in gamers choice
That's why they censor shit, to make it easier on gamers to choose from
I know it's a marketing/investor slide, but goddamn I hate the bullshit companies spout at times.

OT: not surprised by any of this, 110+/120+m PS4 sold pretty much cemented things.

 

[Stuart360]

Wow. Just look at all the "Sonygaffers" shitting up a thread/sarcastic.

Weren't you just complaining about the same thing you're doing. What a hypocrite. I'm sure your post doesn't count, because of some mainly a PC player (but always in a protect Xbox from criticism) bullshit reasons. Keep fake pretending its everybody, but the Xcrew shitting up threads.

Also, love the cool shade of green, for the blinders that you wear.

I can feel your pain, but you reap what you sow. Fanboys have been shitting up numerous threads over this subject for weeks now. They never learn.
And if this is all true, its a GOOD thing for Sony to do. No point missing out on those 100mil PS4 owners. Same with those hundreds of millions of PC gamers, and thats next on the agenda i feel.

 

[CeeJay]

Okay.

This is the sad fact, Microsoft is going to fuck over these people that are digging in the remaining game services because that is what you are buying into... everyone else is already fucked.... no they don't have the same plan as Sony, its services or bust.... and more or less streaming or bust because these services i.e. Game Pass, Xbox Live Gold, etc don't work outside of closed systems. The existing dozen or so stupid people buying games off the Microsoft Store will get shafted just like the Games for Windows Live users got shafted.... I say good. The hardware users have some time, but those hardware users better hope 10s of millions buying streaming services... eventually MS will be out of the heavy hardware console business.

As far as exclusives, I see nothing wrong with MS extending the non-exclusive first party thing for Sexy... they don't have the user base to support a game like Halo Infinite, even with Xbone they don't have the numbers to support Destiny clone i.e. MS Store is shit and they shit on consumers every day... they can't get numbers there. Which shows their strategy outside of streaming is going to go nowhere. Sony doesn't have to do this for most of their titles as most of them are not going to be the size of Halo Infinite, although some games might be cross-gen... either way I see nothing wrong with it.

The End.

Nothing factual there, it's just what you think will happen.

Going off the information we have had from both Sony and MS they seem to be going the same way?

Sony (from the image above)
Blu-Ray
Download
Streaming (Notice how Sony don't see streaming as mainstream for PS3 and PS4 but do for next gen?)

Xbox
Blu-ray
Download (to console and PC)
Streaming (to a wide range of devices)

Both the same...

 

[DonJorginho]

So cross gen exclusives on Ps5 too? Streaming mainstream???

Lets see the fanboys spin this shit around lol

It is an old event from back in 2018 and was regarding GOT and TLOU2, sorry maybe another day you will be right?

 

[Journey]

Let the backpeddling commence!

Don't forget the popcorn

 

[DonJorginho]

This has exposed how stupid some NeoGAF members are, they have all jumped on this little slide in a powerpoint from June 2018, where you can clearly see Sony are talking about TLOU2, GOT and DS, the last three big AAA PS4 exclusives.

Do your research before blurting out Grade A BS folks

 

[Kagero]

Saying PS4 would receive additional exclusive first party titles is not saying PS5 would not receive exclusive first party titles. That is the key bit there.

Yup. I don’t know know why this was so hard to understand. PS5 will still have exclusives. XSX will not for the next couple years.

 

[Journey]

Wow so exclusives are being made for the ps4 until 2022? I thought that Ghost of Tsushima was the last Ps4 "exclusive"....


If so, that's an incredible support from Sony... MS should take notes.

You can't make this stuff up

 

[DanielsM]

Nothing factual there, it's just what you think will happen.

Going off the information we have had from both Sony and MS they seem to be going the same way?

Sony (from the image above)
Blu-Ray
Download
Streaming (Notice how Sony don't see streaming as mainstream for PS3 and PS4 but do for next gen?)

Xbox
Blu-ray
Download (to console and PC)
Streaming (to a wide range of devices)

Both the same...

Yeah, well a Tesla car has 4 wheels, an engine, doors, mirrors, radio.... so it must be the same strategy of Ford gas powered truck right?

Yes, Sony has been in streaming for basically 13+ years. They've also been selling BR players and digital downloading for 13 fucking years.

The strategy is not the same which is why Microsoft is bailing.

You're about to go on my ignore.

There is reason why Microsoft says Sony is no longer a competitor, that is MS that is saying that. Sony isn't giving up their hardware business its services or bust for MS at this point.

According to Phil Spencer Xbox Competition is No Longer With Sony

According to Phil Spencer Xbox competition is no longer with the likes of Sony and Nintendo. Amazon and Google are now the Microsoft division's "main competitors."

www.playstationlifestyle.net

 

[DonJorginho]

Yup. I don’t know know why this was so hard to understand. PS5 will still have exclusives. XSX will not for the next couple years.

This entire source of info is an old event from 2018 talking about GOT and TLOU 2 lmao

 

[Panajev2001a]

If Sony can carry on releasing some exclusives as cross gen for a couple of years after the release of PS5 then you gotta wonder what the reasons are for not releasing ALL games as cross-gen no? Is it that there are genuine reasons why those exclusive PS5 games won't run on PS4 or is it that Sony are artificially holding back on those PS4 versions to get people to move over to PS5?

Sony has always supported the current platform with new titles up to and following the release of their next generation HW to keep the userbase engaged, make some sweet profit, and enjoy BC support in the next generation machine helping users carry their library forward. At the same time they have been making exclusive, fully next generation focused software titles meant to prove the market, show off the new platform capabilities and services, and help drive adoption of the next generation console too.
Do something for the current PS owners and do something for the PSNext buyers too.

This is not new, it is literally their successful modus operandi for their past 25 years with a minor blip with the PS3 to PS4 transition due to lack of PS3 BC in PS4.

But if it's first party why wouldn't they port them to PS5 in one way or another? If it's a second or third party I could see that (Still annoyed that Persona 4 never got a PS3 port) but a first party title is bound to be ported at some point.

PS4 titles would work on PS5 thanks to BC and may have patches to improve few bits and pieces like PS4 Pro did.
If you are talking about PS5 titles ported to PS4 and making all of them cross-generation, it is costly and does not help drive next generation platform adoption and the investment that goes along with it. They have already indicated that transitioning users to PS5 is of great importance, so I think this strategy is sticking for at least one more generation.

 

[Moneal]

Looks like Sony is going with the same approach as Microsoft:

Sony will continue supporting and developing AAA exclusive games for PS4, even when PS5 launches for a couple of years

can someone point out where the bolded was stated?

The Slide doesn't say that. It only mentions games for PS4 are still on the way, and this was done a year ago so that would be a given. The next three years statement and the games still to come statements are not combined in any way.

 

[DonJorginho]

Seeing all you stupid ass people taking a NEARLY 2 YEAR OLD POWERPOINT as new information just to try and defend the XSX.....

 

[CeeJay]

Some games will be cross-gen some won't, this basically happens every cycle now.

What's the problem?

No problem, I was just musing over possible reasons for some cross-gen and some exclusive.

I think however that there is a distinct difference between the cross-gen games previously and the ones we will see coming next gen. The system architectures have been significantly different in previous gen transitions (MS and Sony) whereas this time we are going to see incredibly similar architecture that will be able to use the same codebase across the old and new gen devices. There is a very good chance that when you download a next gen game for PS5 or Xbox you will be downloading the exact same package to install on your machine and then when it does the install it will determine what will be enabled very much in the same way as it works in the PC space. Cross-gen games previously had completely different code and quite often even developed by different developers.

 

[mckmas8808]

"Outstanding roster of exclusive AAA games still to come"

Jim Ryan meant at the time of this DATED presentation btw, Death Stranding The Last Of Us 2 and Ghost Of Tsushima you clown OP.

Tag this post as Clickbait imo.

Some people on GAF are ridiculous. Why can't they just accept that MS is going in a non-traditional route? Why they gotta try to lump Sony in with it too. PLUS......PSNOW is at least 4 YEARS OLD!!!!! We know PS has a streaming platform.

 

[Panajev2001a]

You can't make this stuff up

Well, some people like the OP are literally making unsupported conclusions... so I think are indeed able to .