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[hemo memo]

I said if nothing happens in this month, but some things got complicated lately inside of sony house for sure.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not really, Corona is impacting Sony and other companies as well. This has been pointed out many times in here.

 

[DJ12]

And risk getting doxed by a forum that promotes it within their community and staff?

This is a testament as to his trust here.

How about getting osiris his industry verified status back. Sure he used to have that before the gafening.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

The time frame was in July and August 2019.

Ah, okay. My own point still stands tho and if it's that far back, I was probably actually thinking PS5 would've been 12TF too.

Granted I only joined late August, but I don't remember thinking either may've been 9TF or so until that Github leak and that didn't come until...October, right? And even then that was only to PS5.

I'd try searching my posts that far back but I don't have time to search ALL the way that far back with the way the search function works :S

 

[hemo memo]

Not really, Corona is impacting Sony and other companies as well. This has been pointed out many times in here.

If nothing happens in February I request for a self ban

Doubters gonna doubt anyway.

So doubters were right actually. He shouldn’t bet his account.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So doubters were right actually. He shouldn’t bet his account.

What were they right about? Explain? Lay it all out in details.

You are being purposely ambiguous on this one.

 

[01011001]

oh shit. What if the Lockhart is a laptop or tablet.

OH SHIT! I would honestly love that... but that would defeat the purpose of a cheaper model since a laptop form factor would push the price way up

 

[gamechanger87]

1 is the cpu.
2 is the gpu.

Both are Lockhart. Both have lower specs than we thought.

Umm...

That's a Surface.

MS doesn't use hardware back compat. That is the profile of a Surface tablet replacing the Renoir mobility setup.

 

[DaMonsta]

The time frame was in July and August 2019.

All the way back in March Jason Schreier said both were targeting over 10.7

So Klee was not first on that either.

Like I said he’s riding the wave like the rest of the “insiders”

You guys just want to believe him cause you want to believe the PS5 will be stronger.

 

[hemo memo]

What were they right about? Explain? Lay it all out in details.

You are being purposely ambiguous on this one.

That corona would play a part yet Tommy Fisher insisted on something on Feb? It’s 25 days ago. It’s not like he made the bet 6 months ago.

 

[devilNprada]

the rest is speculation.

Need I remind you sir... This is a speculation thread.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

But do you think it's realistic that the PS5 would have 13.3TF of power? How expensive is that console going to be if you combine that with all the other customisations they have

It'll be $1-3 more expensive with cooling.

 

[Gamernyc78]

What, its 720p?!?

yeah! All previews have been 720p. Tht is a fact and XCloud in no way seems like it'll reach 1080p streaming wise.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That corona would play a part yet Tommy Fisher insisted on something on Feb? It’s 25 days ago. It’s not like he made the bet 6 months ago.

Nobody knew how severe it would be. Well, the media has been doing a good job downplaying it.

 

[Fun Fanboy]

All the way back in March Jason Schreier said both were targeting over 10.7

So Klee was not first on that either.

Like I said he’s riding the wave like the rest of the “insiders”

You guys just want to believe him cause you want to believe the PS5 will be stronger.

I don't want to believe them because I want the Xbox stronger!

 

[SlimySnake]

Ah, okay. My own point still stands tho and if it's that far back, I was probably actually thinking PS5 would've been 12TF too.

Granted I only joined late August, but I don't remember thinking either may've been 9TF or so until that Github leak and that didn't come until...October, right? And even then that was only to PS5.

I'd try searching my posts that far back but I don't have time to search ALL the way that far back with the way the search function works :S

once Navi was unveiled to be a 9'6 tflops 235w 40 cu gpu, people refused to believe that a double digit console was possible.

I should say certain people. The rest was us knew that the console makers usually go wide and slow with more cus and lower clocks and that 7nm+ along with rdna 2.0 efficiency would bring down the tdp.

 

[On Demand]

You're looking at the next Surface laptop.

oh shit. What if the Lockhart is a laptop or tablet.

I remember someone on the other site claiming Brad Sams said lockheart is actually a mobile like device and not a console.

But yeah that looks to be just the surface tablet

 

[LED Guy?]

All the way back in March Jason Schreier said both were targeting over 10.7

So Klee was not first on that either.

Like I said he’s riding the wave like the rest of the “insiders”

You guys just want to believe him cause you want to believe the PS5 will be stronger.

Yeah Jason Schreier said it 1st but didn't specify if it was GCN or RDNA, as for Klee, he said both are double digits and the fact they're both RDNA and now he has the full specs sheet, he wouldn't lie, man, he was verified twice and he is a credible source as per ZHuge, Daniel Ahmed.

 

[Fun Fanboy]

Yeah Jason Schreier said it 1st but didn't specify if it was GCN or RDNA, as for Klee, he said both are double digits and the fact they're both RDNA and now he has the full specs sheet, he wouldn't lie, man, he was verified twice and he is a credible source as per ZHuge, Daniel Ahmed.

But his info wasn't verified! Only him who he was!!! Muhahahahahaa!

 

[Dory16]

Guess who knows the number of PS5 Teraflops at this stage? Phil Spencer, that's who. There are so many ways he could have found that out by now, it's not even funny. And his announcement yesterday is that of someone who knows that the competition has an inferior number. You dont list that number first and in capitals on your breaking news announcement unless you know it won't be matched, especially if nothing obliges you to explicitly reveal it in the first place. Spencer could have done the exact same announcement without a number of Teraflops and leave it for later.
But keep dreaming about a 15 TF PS5, I mean it's theoritically possible.

And don't get me wrong, Sony knows the TF number of the Series X too. Note how they officially announced that they were waiting to know the price of the Series X, not the specs. If the PS5 was more powerful, we would already know it by now. A wired article would have popped out of nowhere just to tell us the number of TFs, now that the Series X has announced theirs. It's what will most likely happen with the price.

 

[DaMonsta]

Yeah Jason Schreier said it 1st but didn't specify if it was GCN or RDNA, as for Klee, he said both are double digits and the fact they're both RDNA and now he has the full specs sheet, he wouldn't lie, man, he was verified twice and he is a credible source as per ZHuge, Daniel Ahmed.

You guys have gone from saying.

“Klee was to first to say it was 12TF” to
“Klee was the say it was double digits” and now to
“Klee was the first to say RDNA”

Lol, give it up

He wasn’t the first to say any of that.

Microsoft themselves said it was RDNA.

 

[Insane Metal]

 

[hemo memo]

Nobody knew how severe it would be. Well, the media has been doing a good job downplaying it.

He still came back on Feb 7 to say #teamfeb

Weird he conveniently just now figured the affect corona virus had just 4 days before the end of the month.

 

[LED Guy?]

You guys have gone from saying.

“Klee was to first to say it was 12TF” to
“Klee was the say it was double digits” and now to
“Klee was the first to say RDNA”

Lol, give it up

He wasn’t the first to say any of that.

Microsoft themselves said it was RDNA.

Except he was the 1st one to say all of that, 12 TF he didn't say it because he knew it before all of those reported XSX specs.

I'm telling you to stop it, the crow plates are getting bigger and bigger.........

 

[DeepEnigma]

He still came back on Feb 7 to say #teamfeb

Weird he conveniently just now figured the affect corona virus had just 4 days before the end of the month.

Sony did not announce cancellations until recently within the past week though, correct?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

yeah! All previews have been 720p. Tht is a fact and XCloud in no way seems like it'll reach 1080p streaming wise.

Who is going to tell him...?

 

[Fatal Enigma]

So if the PS5 BoM is around $450 and the Xbox SeX BoM is around $480 and the PS5 is said to have a more expensive cooling solution, how does the PS5 manage to have more TF? What crucial info am I missing here?

Yeah Jason Schreier said it 1st but didn't specify if it was GCN or RDNA, as for Klee, he said both are double digits and the fact they're both RDNA and now he has the full specs sheet, he wouldn't lie, man, he was verified twice and he is a credible source as per ZHuge, Daniel Ahmed.

your reaching a little as usual...
ZhugeX verified him the first time long long ago
He was then verified again by another mod BUT his info was NOT verified and the mod stated so
Then he suddenly has a full specs sheet for both companies, then he's off to chop wood in alaska
or some dumb shit and requests a self ban.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Fury Bullied Wilder. Wilder I believe only throw 3 good punches that connected until he was dropped in the 3rd. After that all love taps.

Wilder got embarrassed. I hope Wilder was hurt before the fight. If not I don’t believe I would drop 79.99 US Dollars to watch the rematch.

Fury/Joshua. That's what we want to see

 

[The Mad Draklor]

He still came back on Feb 7 to say #teamfeb

Weird he conveniently just now figured the affect corona virus had just 4 days before the end of the month.

It was only recently that Sony pulled out of PAX East and GDC, which corroborates DeepEnigma's claim that most people had no idea that COVID-19 would be this bad. You would have a point if Sony pulled out at the beginning of February or last month.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

your reaching a little as usual...
ZhugeX verified him the first time long long ago
He was then verified again by another mod BUT his info was NOT verified and the mod stated so
Then he suddenly has a full specs sheet for both companies, then he's off to chop wood in alaska
or some dumb shit and requests a self ban.

no idea how endurosquad post got thrown into quote, wtf

 

[Mr Moose]

And don't get me wrong, Sony knows the TF number of the Series X too. Note how they officially announced that they were waiting to know the price of the Series X, not the specs. If the PS5 was more powerful, we would already know it by now. A wired article would have popped out of nowhere just to tell us the number of TFs, now that the Series X has announced theirs. It's what will most likely happen with the price.

They did? When?

 

[Fun Fanboy]

I'll buy 2 if they're doing monthly plans. I've got kids!

 

[DaMonsta]

Except he was the 1st one to say all of that, 12 TF he didn't say it because he knew it before all of those reported XSX specs.

I'm telling you to stop it, the crow plates are getting bigger and bigger.........

How? We’ve just proven he was not the first to say any of it?

You just ignore all that and repeat your “fake news” lol

There’s no crow for me cause I’m not putting my faith in any one source of info. I’m just correcting the record on your guy’s claims of who said what and when.

 

[01011001]

The GitHub leaks are real, just accept that already. we know the chip in this leak is real and we know it was made specifically for Sony. what possible use could they have for a chip with that kind of performance other than the PS5?
and we also know that the chip is not old and thrown out since it got new revisions.

just, come on... I still don't know how this data could be swept under the rug by anyone who takes a critical look at the whole situation at the moment. There is still no logical explanation that explains this chip away... an RDNA chip that has modes that exactly match PS4 and PS4pro.
especially now that we have numbers by Microsoft that fit the very same leaks as well... how the hell can one just absolutely ignore this?

 

[LED Guy?]

your reaching a little as usual...
ZhugeX verified him the first time long long ago
He was then verified again by another mod BUT his info was NOT verified and the mod stated so
Then he suddenly has a full specs sheet for both companies, then he's off to chop wood in alaska
or some dumb shit and requests a self ban.

Are you nuts?!

He couldn't reveal the full specs because that would compromise his sources and all that, if a source is credible, then his info is credible, simple logic 101.

Till now, everything he said is coming to fruition.

 

[mckmas8808]

Here we go again with extreme hyperbole describing a game console. Why do we go through this "the second coming" every time a new generation of console comes out?

These consoles are several generations from being CGI movie type graphics.

Do you consider these to be "CGI movie type graphics"?

 

[The Mad Draklor]

They did? When?

There was never an official announcement about them waiting for the XSex's price announcement:


Here is Giuseppe's GAF post, too.

 

[LED Guy?]

How? We’ve just proven he was not the first to say any of it?

You just ignore all that and repeat your “fake news” lol

There’s no crow for me cause I’m not putting my faith in any one source of info. I’m just correcting the record on your guy’s claims of who said what and when.

No, he did say double digits and them both being RDNA-based in August.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Yes I did say the PSV gdk was loud and hot and it was. Newer one is not pretty simple actually.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Something tells me many are going to be eating crow when Sony announces PS5 and it turns out to be just as powerful as Xbox Series X.

 

[hemo memo]

Sony did not announce cancellations until recently within the past week though, correct?

And if a Feb announcement/reveal was cancelled he should've known as he’s the very reliable insider.

 

[Dory16]

They did? When?

Always try Google first: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/04/ps5-price-depends-xbox-series-x-price-says-sony-12181299/

 

[Reindeer]

If Series X is 599 then 90%+ will probably buy Lockhart (if it exists) and the whole power narrative will be meaningless for everyone except a small group who own next gen Xbox. All the while 90% of PS5 owners will play superior versions to 90% of Xbox gamers. Sad but true. But hey, at least Dealer and co will be happy.

 

[Mr Moose]

Always try Google first: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/04/ps5-price-depends-xbox-series-x-price-says-sony-12181299/

According to a translation by VGC, chief financial officer Hiroki Totoki then stated that Sony couldn’t control the ‘price level’ of the next generation consoles and implied they were waiting to see what the Xbox Series X would cost.

That's not official.

 

[Fun Fanboy]

Something tells me many are going to be eating crow when Sony announces PS5 and it turns out to be just as powerful as Xbox Series X.

I'm just happy X is in the lead now! I mean. We were all told at E3 2019 that PS5 was ahead. That was all the talk. And now here we are. The hope that PS5 is more powerful. Although, when Xbox is more powerful, it's all about the games. I love this time of year!

 

[DeepEnigma]

And if a Feb announcement/reveal was cancelled he should've known as he’s the very reliable insider.

Why would he be privy to last minute changes? I think you are just trying to split hairs here.

 

[Moridianae]

With the spotlight on Microsoft's quite-frankly unbelievable(in a good way) specs for a console and articles pointing out Sony's relative silence thus far, I don't see them waiting much longer.

They could, considering all they have to do is basically fart out a gas cloud in the shape of a 5 to go massively trending on social media...we saw that with just the logo.

I'm not saying they are feeling the pressure(outside of Covid, which everyone is right now), but I think they'll fire something off this week.

Pastebin is what it is, but the timing of Microsoft's article and that reveal date Pastebin vanishing has me wondering even so.

 

[Dory16]

That's not official.

So unofficial that Forbes reported it. And if you know more official than corporate earning calls, then I tip my hat:

Xbox Series X Vs PlayStation 5: The Price Stand-Off

Many expect Sony to reveal the PlayStation 5 either later this month or some time in the early spring, if not. But the price? That's another story.

www.forbes.com

 

[Fatal Enigma]

Are you nuts?!

He couldn't reveal the full specs because that would compromise his sources and all that, if a source is credible, then his info is credible, simple logic 101.

Till now, everything he said is coming to fruition.

I stated 100% facts here -other- than the chopping wood part

your trying to deflect into why he didnt reveal specs. I never said a thing as to WHY,
so why are you???

Reading Comprehension 101 guy

 

[Nickolaidas]

Will PS5 and XsX will have some sort of built in hardware upscaling and clean up of previous gen games? If PS1, PS2, PS3 games are backwards compatible with PS5, will it look similar to bleemcast upscaling?

According to HipHopGamer, yeah PS1-4 BC is going to look amazing on the PS5. That's just a 'leak' to be taken with a grain of salt. However he seems like a genuinely nice guy, I can't help but like his enthusiasm.