splattered
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I already said a month ago Tommy Fisher = TF = TeraFlops. You're being catfished. He's here to give you false hopes. Dont believe his liiies haha
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Self High Five
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Which is funny because it seems every other page someone is requesting for his account to be banned so it's not as if he's being held to some high standard.
ethomaz
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It was made this mid-night... positive.
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Fake
Member
The first one I guess. They're making the second test just for sure.
Mr Moose
Member
I think he's gone at the end of this month (requested a ban if nothing from Sony, right?). I don't trust him but it makes a fun read lol.
Well that's not totally confirmed. To use proper rdna 2 they need to use 7nm+ chips. But as far we know, both consoles are just 7nm - which means Navi. AMD have said ps5 is using Navi and Xbox themselves have said they are using Navi. But as
Gavin Stevens
said they will be so close to rdna 2(~1.9) that they can actually class it as rdna 2. Unless of course both sides come out and say they are on 7nm+.
Fake
Member
Even reddit put a lot of conversation in him.
ethomaz
Banned
The third.
But yeap they will keep doing the test.
pawel86ck
Banned
There were MANY insiders like him in this thread and these insiders have said their brother/uncle/friend etc. is working on PS5 dev kit. We heard impressive numbers from them (some of them were even pushing 14TF possibility) and all of them were sure sony will reveal PS5 in Februarly.
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FranXico
Member
And they probably were banned or chickened out after the first mod warning. Care to list who else otherwise?
Fake
Member
Don't worry. The minister in on the case.
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geordiemp
Member
So I think Sony have very powerful ray tracing instead of going all out in TF.
My guess is they would need to showcase that power differently, as its not a number unless they say a million rays and 10 TF.
My expecttion (total guess) is they show something like TLOU2 running at 4K60 with full ray tracing and god rays everywhere, as that is more Cerny style, and he then goes into long interviews about how they cheated Terraflops and went with actual performance.
My guess is they would need to showcase that power differently, as its not a number unless they say a million rays and 10 TF.
My expecttion (total guess) is they show something like TLOU2 running at 4K60 with full ray tracing and god rays everywhere, as that is more Cerny style, and he then goes into long interviews about how they cheated Terraflops and went with actual performance.
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Disco_
Member
It's brilliant. VFX posts what some people want to hear and he goes from public enemy #1 to hero.
Rockstar has to support it first. Smart delivery depends on publishers, not MS.
Reindeer
Member
I think Series X is using 7nm+, it just makes sense to make more space for RT cores.Well that's not totally confirmed. To use proper rdna 2 they need to use 7nm+ chips. But as far we know, both consoles are just 7nm - which means Navi. AMD have said ps5 is using Navi and Xbox themselves have said they are using Navi. But as
Unless of course both sides come out and say they are on 7nm+.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
I’ve spoken about past work colleagues and people I would class as friends, and have not never given a high tf count (I’m told between 10.5-11.5 as the target) and never once heard anything about a February reveal. My friends work all over the place, some of which first party. Some of the stuff I’ve spoken about came to pass recently, but that’s another topic entirely.
To be fair, you should never read into anything anyway. Just because somebody is vetted, it doesn’t mean they are truthful. And just because somebody is not, it doesn’t mean they are lying. I myself am vetted/verified on era, not here, as I don’t really want to act like some big shot with info, more so I just want to talk spec with like minded people. What I know, isn’t set in stone, and isn’t fact, it’s just talk from other people who know. Maybe. But use your heads, and ask yourself what info people would even have. Most of what I’ve posted for example is a mix of common knowledge cleared up, or stuff that people in that field would know. I’ve seen people here post shit like what company Sony are buying and what prices they get components for due to behind the scene deals.., why would my artist friends even have any bloody clue about that? Yet here we are.
Believe what you chose to believe, as always. But use you noggin.
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Mendou
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Reindeer
Member
Well, he was right about Series X. I can't see how Sony can do traditional form factor and 13.3 tflops, it has to be ITX style build if it's that powerful. Man, 13 tflops PS5 will have Dealer and the gang jumping off balconies and stuff.
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Smoke6
Member
Very bad analogy from going to basically getting the game free, and wanting to count micro transactions as a good source of revenue without the full purchase of the game?
I’m not seeing how this makes sense but it’s whatever! Only a small percentage of people actually buy games after playing them on game pass. Don’t believe them provide sales figures for their games while gamepss has existed!
Fake
Member
If we back to the devkit and look at the format, we can guess Sony is worry about the heat. Dunno if this reflect about final build.
People maybe hate those 'insiders', but they need to confess they put a lot of conversation into those thread.
Reindeer
Member
I always got more respect for people who provide specs and stand by them even if they are wrong, than those that just wiggle and waggle and leave themselves hundred backdoors.
Smoke6
Member
Damn, wonder how rockstar would feel about this as that very game made its history by people double dipping?
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
They have a good point. Who can compete with PC exclusives?
what the flying fuck is that?! Like, who would buy this shit? I mean what’s the url for this crap, and how much is it?! Is it available now?! Terrible!!!
Sinthor
Gold Member
Well, the other hope is that like the regular flu, Covid-19 disappears when spring hits and the weather warms. Of course it will then be back next flu season, but this virus is likely in our rotations from here on out during flu seasons. At least if it DOES disappear in the Spring, that will give them time to hopefully have a vaccine in place for NEXT year.
The Mad Draklor
Member
I can tell you for sure that GAF did have a Microsoft astroturfer before, M Microsofts Hunert Smoke (and this is technically his alt account. His original account was Microsoft Chad). He did exactly what you described: bringing disruption and confusion.
Fake
Member
They could speaking loads of shit, but at the same time they can't compromisse those who 'gave them' information.
Reindeer
Member
Nobody is asking them to name names, but at least put down a number if you really got the specs. I just see some people who are willing to risk it all and stand by their info and another group who aren't sure, don't have solid info or just lying to gain notoriety.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Shmunter
Member
Reading the magic update thing from MS, it only applies to MS titles. 3rd parties can do whatever they like. So Rockstar can feel however the mood strikes them.
Not expecting any full fat remasters appearing next gen for free when you can pickup a previous gen version for $2 at GameStop bargain bin. No business would invest in this without some angle. Most will be a basic Rez/framerate bump aka X or Pro that subscribe to this.
bhunachicken
Member
This is something I think, too. Someone correct me on this, because I'm probably quite wrong:
AMD's raytracing would rely on some of the CUs in the GPU, right? So, the 12TF GPU in the XSX is because it's doing both the rasterization and the raytracing?
But if Sony had their own raytracing hardware, they would be able to go with a cheaper AMD GPU (or just one without RT cores), cutting costs, and therefore being able to sell the PS5 cheaper? Perhaps even deliver a machine that was, on paper, more powerful than the XSX?
Probably total BS the above, but ... maybe?
TBiddy
Member
One? Lol
You should start naming them, instead of the snarky remarks.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
The trouble with something like spec is it’s not a set in stone “thing”. It’s constantly in flux, targets change, and it’s not uncommon for last minute changes to certain things to occur, like slight up clocks. If you had people here swearing black and blue “the next PlayStation has two disk slots!” Then thats either true or false, you can easily see if somebody was bullshitting.
But if somebody says it’s 11tf, and then it comes out at 12tf, they may have been telling the truth, because things change.
I myself have been told by various unconnected people that the 9tf dream was the old plans, and the 10.5-11.5 is the new target.
OsirisBlack
can back me up a little in that these boxes were running hot and there was a few thermal concerns in spots that will likely be solved come revision. But 11.5 is my upper guess. I’ll stand by that, my friends are good people and I trust that at this time, that’s their upper estimate as this is the target spec they were given, even if it was running slower than that at the time.
So for me, that’s my take on it. And to be fair, 11.5 is bloody fantastic, and nothing at all to be concerned about compared to the SX. 0.5tf difference is like pissing in the wind at this spec.
But if somebody says it’s 11tf, and then it comes out at 12tf, they may have been telling the truth, because things change.
I myself have been told by various unconnected people that the 9tf dream was the old plans, and the 10.5-11.5 is the new target.
OsirisBlack
can back me up a little in that these boxes were running hot and there was a few thermal concerns in spots that will likely be solved come revision. But 11.5 is my upper guess. I’ll stand by that, my friends are good people and I trust that at this time, that’s their upper estimate as this is the target spec they were given, even if it was running slower than that at the time.So for me, that’s my take on it. And to be fair, 11.5 is bloody fantastic, and nothing at all to be concerned about compared to the SX. 0.5tf difference is like pissing in the wind at this spec.
Reindeer
Member
Don't know man, a guy on Reddit reported exact specs of Series X two years from release. Specs are finalised way in advance, they aren't changing CPU and GPU in 2020 lol.The trouble with something like spec is it’s not a set in stone “thing”. It’s constantly in flux, targets change, and it’s not uncommon for last minute changes to certain things to occur, like slight up clocks. If you had people here swearing black and blue “the next PlayStation has two disk slots!” Then thats either true or false, you can easily see if somebody was bullshitting.
But if somebody says it’s 11tf, and then it comes out at 12tf, they may have been telling the truth, because things change.
I myself have been told by various unconnected people that the 9tf dream was the old plans, and the 10.5-11.5 is the new target.
So for me, that’s my take on it. And to be fair, 11.5 is bloody fantastic, and nothing at all to be concerned about compared to the SX. 0.5tf difference is like pissing in the wind at this spec.
Smoke6
Member
If true I believe $499 would suit them well considering BC and ps+ and whatever the upgrade to that service would be! Oh let’s not forget COD still might have exclusive deal and soccer!
Gamernyc78
Banned
Alot of ppl think Sony has created a better and more efficient, seperate RT solution. It has been talked about for months. Remember this is the same Sony that created a seperate chip for different functions such as shareplay, streaming features and other things on the ps4. They stay thinking out the box.
Hardware engineers and software ppl at Sony are ridiculously smart and cream of the crop and of course Cerny is there so I wouldn't be surprised.
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BGs
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Knowing that I can't detail anything... I think it is obvious to think that the most significant improvements will be those expected in the VR field of the next decade. Improve sight related. The touch. And the attenuation of possible dizziness (NOT its elimination). In any case, without giving details, the biggest advance I see is immersion.
I hope to be able to make a thread regarding the dizziness that generated the VR and that could continue to generate to a greater or lesser extent depending on the device. The thread will be of several parts, both to comment on my experience and to know the user experience with different devices, in order to improve development. But to sum it up, one could say that there are basically two types of dizziness. Those who can be eliminated and those who cannot (speaking only at home level, outside the home, dizziness can be completely eliminated in certain ways, and also at home but at a cost). But as I say, it is something that I think will be better treated in its time and in its respective thread. I hope I can create it "soon" and be able to share more than promises.
geordiemp
Member
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And looking into PowerVR maybe they have that possibility, I have no idea, but searching PowerVR and Sony you see a principal sony engineer who came from PowerVR. on Linked in...
.Imagination announces ray tracing technology for licensing
PowerVR Ray Tracing IP enables realistic 3D graphics for any market.
hexus.net
Maybe its not all about TF, who knows. Most of the leaks mention Sony ray tracing ability....and secrets...
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
That may have been a fluke, because he didnt guess all the specs. Plus twice as powerful as the X was a good safe guess to be fair.
As for your second part, yes, you absolutely can upclock the GPU and CPU quite close to release. If you have headroom in your voltage and thermals, a small upclock can push you upwards of 0.25tf at this spec. It’s been done before, even.
edit: spec targets are milestones to reach. For example,you can set out to walk 20 miles at 5mph, it doesn’t mean you will do it. Targets are there for a reason, but targets do change.
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The Mad Draklor
Member
No one was as dedicated as M Microsofts Hunert Smoke . He was around before GAF shed the SJW tumor, meaning that every time he got banned, he would use a different paid email address to open a new alt account. Here are some of his accounts I can remember:One? Lol
M Microsoft Chad
S SayBooSayDo-SayBooSayWho
D Doctor Professional
T The Grim Reaper
H Herman Cain
Gamernyc78
Banned
Lol he was also probably some of the other ppl tht popped up later on but I get it.
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Well likewise there are some people in this very thread who are a little bit too obsessed with Sony, so the same is likely true the other way. I mean, certain posters pretty much live and breath PlayStation, to the point that Cerny could step in a dog turd and they would twist it into positive news.
Fanatics are on both sides and dare I say it... Gaf has more Sony ones than Xbox ones, at least to my eyes.
Fanatics are on both sides and dare I say it... Gaf has more Sony ones than Xbox ones, at least to my eyes.
BGs
Industry Professional
Traditional "yes." Old games "depends" on the developer.
Gamernyc78
Banned
This is why idk why ppl ask BG stuff he may know things but he's tighter than a virgins asshole and doesn't give up any concrete info. It's a waste even asking.
. Sounds very interesting...
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
He was just wishing Phil the best before his KeemoTherapee started:
For a split second I thought that was Adam Sessler! Lol!
Smoke6
Member
PS5 was supposed to have released in 2019 bruh! Let that sink in while also remembering that last minute change Sony made to their console memory! A lot more time for them to make that kinda change like that this time!
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