Bumblebeetuna
Member
It’s a $30 online only brawler. Are you expecting the marketing campaign of Halo or something? Either way your analysis was, per usual, wrong. The game is getting a good push from MS.
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Bleeding Edge code not sent out for review
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darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
You are funny. While I don't like the gameplay at all, the design immediately clicked with me and I hope this game is just an introduction into a story based game in the same universe. I think it's glorious art design.
OneShotThrill
Member
Ive heard nothing about this game until the reviews dropped. Look how many FTP titles that get more marketing than this. It got no push at all. It was sent out to die. You can defend it all you want because it MS but this will be forgotten in a month.
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mejin
Member
if we think about other MS first party games, it would be in less than a month, even when they get good reviews like Gears 5 or Ori.
It really is a strange situation with gamepass, MS is just doing what they are supposed to do with the service and people start to wait for new games. That's the problem with this model, it doesn't matter what launched today, people want to know what is coming next month.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Correcting nonsense isn’t really defending anything. Also you can’t blame MS for your own ignorance. There are plenty of games I’ve heard nothing about, doesn’t mean they weren’t marketed.
GHG
Gold Member
Yeh such nonsense. You even said this game was marketed on Reddit of all places. Why didn't these people get the memo?
Bumblebeetuna
Member
You can disable that stuff on Reddit. It’s also everywhere on the Xbone dashboard and was all over Inside Xbox. Also there are plenty of people in the links you’re providing saying the same thing I’m saying, there are ads in various places. One even mentions seeing trailers and ads for it in GameStop.
Sorry that this $30 title from 15 people didn’t get a AAAA marketing budget you wanted, but that doesn’t mean MS sent the game out with nothing. You’re just mistaken, it’s ok. I’ve seen a lot of that lately from you.
Sorry that this $30 title from 15 people didn’t get a AAAA marketing budget you wanted, but that doesn’t mean MS sent the game out with nothing. You’re just mistaken, it’s ok. I’ve seen a lot of that lately from you.
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GHG
Gold Member
The Xbox Dashboard and Inside Xbox? So like I said, to people already embedded within the Xbox ecosystem. You'd think with it being a multiplayer focused new IP they would try and get it out there and generate a bit of buzz so that as many people as possible can try it out (especially with it being on Gamepass) but no, lets just keep this one just for our loyalists.
- Nowhere near the top sellers on Steam. https://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=topsellers
- Circa 500 viewers on Twitch (currently)
- No reviews prior to release (which, whether you believe/like it or not helps market your game and remind people it's about to release)
Nice one with the ad hominem by the way, really appreciate it. Hope that works out better for you in the future.
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Vawn
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I think we are already seeing what an all subscription based future would be. Really good AAA are super expensive and very risky.
Low budget or AA games do not need to worry about quality nearly as much if they have to be just "good enough" to be on a subscription service where users aren't consciously paying or specifically buying that particular game.
This is why I hope neither Sony or Nintendo ever lean into this type of service. It's fine for Xbox as they've been struggling with big AAA exclusives for a while anyway. Sony and Nintendo would have much further to fall if they too sacrificed quality for this business model.
Low budget or AA games do not need to worry about quality nearly as much if they have to be just "good enough" to be on a subscription service where users aren't consciously paying or specifically buying that particular game.
This is why I hope neither Sony or Nintendo ever lean into this type of service. It's fine for Xbox as they've been struggling with big AAA exclusives for a while anyway. Sony and Nintendo would have much further to fall if they too sacrificed quality for this business model.
Hawke502
Member
i think you got it wrong, mate, gamepass gives the freedom to developers, knowing they arent pressured to sell massive numbers. Bleeding Edge was being developed before Microsoft acquired Ninja Theory, they are still doing Hellblade 2.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Well you can continue to downplay and brush off areas where MS pushed the game but it doesn’t change the fact that they did. I mean I guess it’s easy to say they sent the game out to die of you discredit every avenue they took to market the game
Not sure what Steam charts have to do with anything but I guess straw grasping is something you do when your argument is weak.
This “sent to GamePass to die/GamePass filler” is the same stuff people said about SoD2 and yet it’s still going just fine and still getting free support and big updates.
It’s cute that you’re expecting a large marketing push for a small $30 brawler but most logical people would disagree.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
He posts nonsense about GamePass lowering game quality in every thread possible. Best to just ignore it.
GHG
Gold Member
Well you can continue to downplay and brush off areas where MS pushed the game but it doesn’t change the fact that they did. I mean I guess it’s easy to say they sent the game out to die of you discredit every avenue they took to market the game
Not sure what Steam charts have to do with anything but I guess straw grasping is something you do when your argument is weak.
This “sent to GamePass to die/GamePass filler” is the same stuff people said about SoD2 and yet it’s still going just fine and still getting free support and big updates.
It’s cute that you’re expecting a large marketing push for a small $30 brawler but most logical people would disagree.
Maybe, just maybe, whatever avenues they took to "market" the game (if you count developers posting on reddit and forums as "marketing") were inefficient and ineffective. Usually for a game like this (hero game) you would at the very least get a series of "character overview" trailers dumped on YouTube for each individual character in the weeks leading up to launch (or even some game mode overview trailers) but in this case there was just the launch trailer and that's it. Good marketing campaigns don't even need to be expensive, they just need to get the right information out in the right way.
Steam sales charts are indicative of how well a game is selling (duh) and games that generate a good buzz on PC inevitably shoot up to the top of those charts. A good marketing campaign will lead to there being good buzz about a title around the time of it's release, even if just for a little while (usually regardless of the quality of the game). This is a game from a major publisher which has been out less than 5 days and it's already well outside of the top 50 selling games, it's not a good sign. But hey, when you can cite games like State of Decay 2 and say they are doing "fine" I have no idea what your standards are like, so you'll probably turn round and say this is "fine" too. At this rate the game will be dead in a year.
Truly the best and the most loyal fanbase. No criticism allowed, no acknowledgement that things could be better/improve in certain instances. As the saying goes, you make your own bed.
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For what it's worth it's on the 4th tab across on the main carousel on the Xbox PC app:
As a comparison Ori was the 1st item on this carousel in the week leading up to and week after it's release.
They are not even putting it front and center in their own apps for goodness sake.
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Bumblebeetuna
Member
It’s right there on the main page on Xbox. And they did have a lot of Youtubers making videos leading up to release. I saw plenty that were sponsored by NT/MS.
Whether the marketing worked or not is irrelevant to whether or not they did it. You said they sent the game out with nothing, that’s factually false.
Whether the marketing worked or not is irrelevant to whether or not they did it. You said they sent the game out with nothing, that’s factually false.