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AMA about One Piece

Cutty Flam

Banned
Any more questions? I’m current in the manga

Would be glad to answer any questions anybody has. Good look brapadillo, thanks for the bump sauce

brap brap where you at in One Piece these days btw?
 
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brap

Banned
Any more questions? I’m current in the manga

Would be glad to answer any questions anybody has. Good look brapadillo, thanks for the bump sauce

brap brap where you at in One Piece these days btw?
I quit watching during fishman island because it was so fucking boring. I couldn't take it anymore.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
I quit watching during fishman island because it was so fucking boring. I couldn't take it anymore.
No way dude!!! Fishman Island has some great moments. I ranked all the arcs in the anime and I think I gave Fishman Island a 9.0/10. The last 25-30% of that arc is my favorite. Some amazing things shown when the final portion of that arc starts; when things escalate

There’s always a trying moment when you see exactly what Luffy is made of, and it is phenomenal, his will. One of the most impressive Captain moments / feats he’s shown us so far takes place at Fishman Island imo

But in general, I am fond of Fishman Island despite some of its flaws. And it definitely has a couple of flaws at the very least
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Actually, there’s two astounding moments at Fishman Island when things start to get heavy. On Luffy’s part there is
 

brap

Banned
No way dude!!! Fishman Island has some great moments. I ranked all the arcs in the anime and I think I gave Fishman Island a 9.0/10. The last 25-30% of that arc is my favorite. Some amazing things shown when the final portion of that arc starts; when things escalate

There’s always a trying moment when you see exactly what Luffy is made of, and it is phenomenal, his will. One of the most impressive Captain moments / feats he’s shown us so far takes place at Fishman Island imo

But in general, I am fond of Fishman Island despite some of its flaws. And it definitely has a couple of flaws at the very least
I was struggling with it for like a week. By the time the straw hats got to town square or whatever I had to stop. I was seriously so sick and tired of it.
 
Will it ever get as good again? I've been utterly bored since after Water 7, actually scratch that Marineford arc was good and a nice change of pace, just reading just to keep up until we got well into Whole Cake and I just went "why am I even bothering?" and quit reading. It's not as if we've been replaying the same arc structures for most part since the first three arcs, just with tiny variations.
Honestly, One Piece overplayed itself. Though unlike the other two of the three great Jump series of the 2000s, it's much more a slow whimper than their crash towards the bottom. I wish I had realized that I had to jump off and not get caught by sunken cost fallacy with Naruto and Bleach earlier.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Will it ever get as good again? I've been utterly bored since after Water 7, actually scratch that Marineford arc was good and a nice change of pace, just reading just to keep up until we got well into Whole Cake and I just went "why am I even bothering?" and quit reading. It's not as if we've been replaying the same arc structures for most part since the first three arcs, just with tiny variations.
Honestly, One Piece overplayed itself. Though unlike the other two of the three great Jump series of the 2000s, it's much more a slow whimper than their crash towards the bottom. I wish I had realized that I had to jump off and not get caught by sunken cost fallacy with Naruto and Bleach earlier.
Whole Cake Island is brilliant work. At first I was like this is good. This is really interesting. Then it got dramatic and the mood changed. Things were kind of looking like it would be a somber uphill battle. Then the pace switched again and things were looking up, a bit better of an outlook. Then things got absolutely insane and complex and exactly how dangerous we could expect such territory to be. For 51 episodes, there was nonstop chaos either in the making, or going down real time

I really do love Whole Cake Island, but it is a very unique arc. They're all unique, but this one really puts itself out there. I think Whole Cake Island is a top 5 arc even with its disadvantages. What is amazing to me, is that the characters were
hand picked and the weak three were the main factors in this arc outside of Monkey D. Luffy.

Given the circumstances, Whole Cake is no less than a top 5 arc in One Piece. It is incredible, incredible what takes place. Luffy is a bonfide leader after his feats in Whole Cake

It gets much better in the next arc, if you can believe that. This current arc, you wouldn't even believe how any high rank characters are about to face off. Imagine the pinnacle of Whole Cake Island, and multiply the danger by about 60X. I can almost guarantee, based off all that is taking place, that there will multiple deaths that take place, and I even think there will some battle scars as well i.e. think Zoro's eye, Luffy's chest level damage. Things are getting severe in the anime. Things are REALLY heating up. There's a war going on like you wouldn't believe. You'd have to see it to understand. It would take me a couple of hours to adequately give a proper summary. I'd have to draw the map and detail all the factions and parties and such. But it's all out. Think Marineford, about 3-4X that in my estimation. Pretty crazy
 

justAjohn

Member
Since the timeskip Zorro isn´t pushed to his limit, but why do I get the feeling he is not that strong anyway?

I mean he got swords before, but he got them after pushing himself to his limit ta a certain degree, so not that he got sword after timeskip without really expending himself is not that reassuring.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Since the timeskip Zorro isn´t pushed to his limit, but why do I get the feeling he is not that strong anyway?

I mean he got swords before, but he got them after pushing himself to his limit ta a certain degree, so not that he got sword after timeskip without really expending himself is not that reassuring.
Watch the current arc. He will be tested. There wont be a single SH or pirate that wont be fighting for their and their crew’s survival. The enemies the current arc, literally seem unbeatable. Almost even so for Luffy; I don’t know how he’s going to rise above all this. Imagine a surfer who must successfully ride a 120ft tidal wave. He either does it, and survives, or he is surely dead unless there is a miracle waiting for him. That is the situation for Luffy. Any mistake he makes will cost much here, the odds of surviving this entire ordeal in Wano Kuni is slim to none but we all know they will find a way

Back to Zoro, there are plenty of examples. He hasn’t really been tested yet but there are instances where he leads even past Luffy. These moments are fleeting, but there are still some instances. Zoro is battle tested and ready for anything. For me alone, knowing that
he trained with and probably even against Juracule Mihawk for two years
that should tell you everything you need to know about his ability in any particular fight, given the two’s history. His chances of losing in a fight are as doubtful as Luffy losing a member of his crew on his watch. It’s not going to happen or likely to come close to that, anywhere near

But I hear you, I want to see an unbelievable foe in his path. There was one already in the New World. But obviously, Zoro took him with
no life-threatening struggle. The fight was his seemingly from the start despite how horrific of a foe he actually was. Zoro is that high on the food chain now
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
It showed up in my plex server so maybe ill watch it.
It's my favorite anime. I've watched HxH, the only other Shonen I've seen besides JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. They all offer different things and are all definitely 10/10 anime series in my opinion but One Piece, imo is other level greatness. I've never sen anything like this, where after more and more episodes by the year, the anime continues to climb to new unexplored heights every year. The story is getting crazier and crazier in terms of what they're up against every single year. Funny. Characters are legendary. Fights are excellent. Writing is superb if not genius as times. Oda seems to be some kind of god when it comes to creating badass characters. All in all, I'd say there's something for everybody in this anime and it does not disappoint at all for me, I would recommend it to almost anyone to give it a legitimate try. It's worth it 100%

I want more people to watch and enjoy it. I want more people to experience this anime. Do not want anybody to miss out on this unbelievably epic adventure. I feel like it's that good and people should have a chance or at the very least hear about it. Open to any questions
 

justAjohn

Member
@ Roronoa´s training
I don´t believe he is at that level yet, seeing how rattled he was at Punk Hazzard when Luffy was fooling around.

Also
who do you mean by that? If you mean Pica then he indeed wasn´t ever in danger, he just lacked mobility, which he should have realised in Skypiea in his fight with Braham and if not then, the Punk Hazzard circumstances should have made him.
It's my favorite anime. I've watched HxH, the only other Shonen I've seen besides JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. They all offer different things and are all definitely 10/10 anime series in my opinion but One Piece, imo is other level greatness. I've never sen anything like this, where after more and more episodes by the year, the anime continues to climb to new unexplored heights every year. The story is getting crazier and crazier in terms of what they're up against every single year. Funny. Characters are legendary. Fights are excellent. Writing is superb if not genius as times. Oda seems to be some kind of god when it comes to creating badass characters. All in all, I'd say there's something for everybody in this anime and it does not disappoint at all for me, I would recommend it to almost anyone to give it a legitimate try. It's worth it 100%

I want more people to watch and enjoy it. I want more people to experience this anime. Do not want anybody to miss out on this unbelievably epic adventure. I feel like it's that good and people should have a chance or at the very least hear about it. Open to any questions
Look, I get where you are coming from, but I think you´re a bit hyperbolic right now.

The fights being excellent is subjective. I personally find some to be kinda bad but I am also being subjective.

I cannot be an authority on writing as of now so my opinion has even less weight here, but I think a lot of characters are just disposable. They only seem to exist as a development tool and once their narrative task is achieved, they are gone.

Badass characters? Yeah, no dispute.
There´s something for everybody? No, genrewise and situationwise that would probably go only to Gintama and even then it is quite a stretch. The sheer scope of variety of things done in Gintama puts One Piece anime to shame.

I would recommend One Piece anime to everybody only until the end of Skypiea. The anime has charm, pacing and consistency in spades until that point (except the Apis filler). Then it slowly becomes an unstable chimera of equal greatness and dissappointment until Marineford, where it transitions to a simmering water - the occasional bubbles are nice, but generally boring.

On a more conductive note; What do you think happened to Captain Kuro, Gin and Don Krieg?
 
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Cutty Flam

Banned
In terms of power levels, how do the Strawhat crew rank against other characters? Also, what is Haki?
Luffy is probably the easiest to assess of the Mugiwara Pirates. I would estimate that he's up there with anyone at this point. But he's still only like 21, 22 years old at this point and he's still learning as he goes. But I think he would defeat almost anyone at this point, save maybe three to five characters max, that I can think of...With Roronoa Zoro it is still kind of difficult to gauge and answer your question. Personally, I think he's right there in terms of rank. Easily a top 15 character at the moment is what I would estimate. The rest of Luffy's crew, it's really difficult to rank them. If we're going to rank purely off a hunch I could probably give you those estimates roughly, for fun. But outside of what a lot of people call the strong trio or just strong three (Luffy, Zoro, Sanji) I wouldn't be surprised if I could make a list of at least 30-50 characters that are possibly stronger than the rest of the crew, save one of the crew actually (just remembered one exception) but the thing is with the Straw Hats, their resourcefulness is their best asset imo. Together, their potential is amazing and a wonderful thing. One of the most exciting things about One Piece imo is seeing how they pull through with their teamwork; seeing what they do at certain times individually to secure the livelihood of the whole

Haki is
described as something that lives in every living thing; it lies dormant in every living person but it is rare for most to ever awaken the ability. There are three categories of Haki and can be used at different levels from what I understand. Essentially Haki originates from the spirit. Haki allows others to control their spirit in a way in which they can sense the energy of others, manifest it as an armor, intimidate and defeat foes. There is much more to it, but I don't want to spoil it all. It's kind of complicated; I still don't fully understand all the subsets of Haki entirely enough to give adequate explanations

@ Roronoa´s training
I don´t believe he is at that level yet, seeing how rattled he was at Punk Hazzard when Luffy was fooling around.

Also
who do you mean by that? If you mean Pica then he indeed wasn´t ever in danger, he just lacked mobility, which he should have realised in Skypiea in his fight with Braham and if not then, the Punk Hazzard circumstances should have made him.

Look, I get where you are coming from, but I think you´re a bit hyperbolic right now.

The fights being excellent is subjective. I personally find some to be kinda bad but I am also being subjective.

I cannot be an authority on writing as of now so my opinion has even less weight here, but I think a lot of characters are just disposable. They only seem to exist as a development tool and once their narrative task is achieved, they are gone.

Badass characters? Yeah, no dispute.
There´s something for everybody? No, genrewise and situationwise that would probably go only to Gintama and even then it is quite a stretch. The sheer scope of variety of things done in Gintama puts One Piece anime to shame.

I would recommend One Piece anime to everybody only until the end of Skypiea. The anime has charm, pacing and consistency in spades until that point (except the Apis filler). Then it slowly becomes an unstable chimera of equal greatness and dissappointment until Marineford, where it transitions to a simmering water - the occasional bubbles are nice, but generally boring.

On a more conductive note; What do you think happened to Captain Kuro, Gin and Don Krieg?

That moment at Punk Hazard was not Roronoa being "rattled", maybe in part he was, but I saw that move as something much more than what you're stating it was



That was Zoro reiterating a lesson Luffy knows just as well as him. Zoro saying what he said says more than tenfold what he actually yelled out at Luffy. It goes levels beyond what those words mean on the surface as advice to Luffy; advice and a warning

To say that moment means Zoro is somehow not at a certain level, I don't know if you mean that or if you are trying to say something else, but I don't understand how that shows any sign of incompetence on Zoro's ability in battle. That was pure leadership at its finest

Zoro lacking mobility that is an interesting point you bring up. I never thought about it. All the characters get caught up and at a disadvantage, even the Yonko make major mistakes through their weaknesses that we've seen so far[/spolier]

The fights in One Piece are different. When there is an amazing moment, it truly is amazing. I love the fights in HxH and JoJo but some of the fights in One Piece simply have tremendous moments. There are times when a blow or strike will be delivered and they are very impressive moments

To only recommend One Piece up until the end of Skypiea is borderline comical to me. The very next arc is arguably one of the greatest not only in One Piece, but all of anime. The next two arcs after Skypiea are legendary. At first, I didn't even know what to expect. I actually thought it was kind of ordinary at first. Then things flipped, full 180 and it was the most insane turnaround and change of pace I've ever seen. The fucking hype that was surging through me when everything started to add up and escalate to the point in which it did, I know you can't deny that was masterful work. Those two back-to-back arcs are incredible don't even lie bro. All the arcs are superb imo. Even my least favorite one was at least entertaining as hell in how it went. Even if an arc is lacking in one way, it almost always shines in many other ways

As for those three, these are my thoughts:

Captain Kuro = LMAO that dude is irrelevant. Has to be the smallest fish in the sea of a pirate there is. He hid from the navy because he was so weak to even confront them a little bit. He cucked himself and lived a lie for like a decade under the guise of a caretaker butler. I can barely even call that guy a pirate. More of a shell of one. Pretty sure after Luffy kicked his ass it was over for him. Probably shot himself in the head or got himself killed for being such a loser lol

Gin = Might have made it. He probably ditched Don Krieg at some point and went with a Captain worthy of his levelheadedness and hopefully is now working under a more capable Captain

Don Krieg = Don Krieg was 100% ego and got pushed around constantly. By Mihawk, by Luffy. He's another failure who will likely never amount to anything in the Grand Line

Those guys (Gin is okay) were too stupid and weak to even be talking such a big game. If they are smart, they put themselves in check and are advancing slowly and might play a very small part at the very end of the anime is my thinking. But probably not. Looking back, they were as small time as they come. They're embarrassments at this point tbh
 

justAjohn

Member
I never knew Navarone was held in such a high regard /s.

Or maybe you talk that AND Davy Back Fight? With fillers that actually manage to screw up continuity a bit and weaken the emotional moments.

Or maybe you lump THAT together with Water 7 and Enies Lobby into one big arc lasting until episode 323? I do not deny the emotional and narrative heights, but this is where the three big problems on One Piece anime start and you also want EVERYONE to go through additional 128 episodes when they previously went through 195 episodes already? That is not reasonable. I am actually a bit similar to you in that regard as the most level headed recommendation is only up to Arlong Park, but I personally believe that Skypeia is that goddamned good from the enjoyment and narrative standpoint.

In the first 195 episodes you get a lot characters, story, overall narrative and a taste of structure Oda uses which makes it really easy to actually recommend it to EVERYONE and 195 episodes is already a big ask.

In the next 128 episodes you get inconsistent animation, a lot of fillers, padding and pacing issues and insane length which makes it actually unrecommendable to EVERYONE on top of 195 episodes.

@ Three characters
The reason I asked about them was to see what you have to say about them. I find them compelling because they had uncomical flaws which means they had valid room for character development. I still believe in the beginning or even up to Ace´s capture they had a lot of narrative potential, especially Kuro and Gin. Most of the things you mention could be skillfully turned on Straw Hats too.

The way you express yourself as you write about them is also telling.

Well, my last question - as I feel I detract from the playful nature of the thread - how do you feel One Piece compares to the tenets of Shonen Jump, namely Friendship, Effort, Victory?
 
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Cutty Flam

Banned
J justAjohn

Wait, what are "the three big problems on One Piece" that you speak of? I've heard a lot of complaints before but never something like a big 3 sort of deal. Curious to hear what people are saying about that

I don't think it's unreasonable at all because they can simply skip the filler and get straight into the third major saga (and arguably one of the greatest story arcs in anime period) that follows after Skypiea. Almost all the arcs are excellent or superb in quality. A handful are outstanding. And some legendary even. For you to recommend stopping after Arlong Park, all I have to say about that is this lol

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Skypiea is the weakest of the sagas imo, but like I said, it's still excellent / a very strong arc despite my views on it. That's the standard you can expect when watching any given arc in One Piece; it's all high quality work

The three characters you mentioned
at the time were very interesting, but it came apparent that they were simply big fish in a small pond. They would never make it any further based of what we saw. I mean, Captain Kuro is so pathetic and even disgraceful, that it would be of horrible taste to even mention him again. I like Gin, he's cool. Don Krieg is all bark zero bite. He's literally a joke. What did he do well? Talk shit and boast of his armor that would protect him? Luffy took down that delusional psychopath of an old man when he was just beginning his journey at age 17. There's no way he'd ever make it bro.

Your views on One Piece are very interesting. You seem to enjoy it and watch a lot of it, but at the same time you are very critical of it for as much as you have watched. Ask as many questions as you'd like, I'm trying to learn more as I go as well too. So answering these questions allows me to go back and refresh my memory. In all honesty, I know it may be a waste of time to many, but I plan on re-watching One Piece one day in a theater. I might open one up if I ever have an extremely high net worth at any point in life lol, and get the rights to play everything One Piece hahahahahaha

Episode 1-15 will be Screening 1, episodes 16-32 screening room 2 and so on. A place to binge watch the entire anime that would be insane. Literally. But it would be interesting. Definitely would be interesting to run for a while though lol. If it can even sustain itself, that is
 

Fushitsusha

Banned
Also, if you manage to stick with Luffy and the crew for 25 episodes, there’s a legendary fight to witness. One of the Straw Hats essentially faces a foe you can expect to see at the very, very end of One Piece. The level in which said foe is on, it’s just fucking asinine, I’ll put like that. Utterly insane the level of strength, power, confidence, precision, force, and ability. Easily a top 10-15 strongest character in the entire anime, which is saying a lot since there are certainly many with highly impressive ability in a fight or confrontation. You wont be able to forget what you’ve seen once it happens, and when it happens, you’ll know
Challenge accepted.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Challenge accepted.
SUUUUUUUUUUUUPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love the start of One Piece. Hard to believe it started so honest and simple and now we are at episode 930 I think it is in the anime, and things are getting so damn intense that I feel the need to suplex a cactus off a cliff
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Have you played any of the video games?
Have you played any of the video games?
No but I've always wondered about them. A friend of mine bought the One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 Deluxe Edition but I never played it. I know if I bought it I'd probably be spending 100-300 hrs on it knowing my love love for all the details. I always wanted to see how the quality measures up to the anime and manga though

Yo what did you think about Marineford bro? The last time I talked to you before you took an extended stay at the Playboy Mansion, you were just getting into Marineford I think. How did you like it overall? Favorite moment?

That arc....breathtaking. Just unbelievable non-stop action. My friend wasn't kidding when he told me I was about to witness some godly shit go down when I had finished up with Impel Down and got to Marineford
 

Fushitsusha

Banned
I feel the need to suplex a cactus off a cliff
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Never change, Cutty. Was sad when Evilore removed your abillity to make threads, figured we would not have something like this again.
Currently checking out Episode 1 and whoever said in here that the visuals are unbearable must be crazy. Rating it above 99.9 percent of anime already just alone on that. I understand it from somewhere that it does change along the way? Love the smirk from the chick with orange hair. Probably will turn into a real feisty bitch though.
 
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Cutty Flam

Banned
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Never change, Cutty. Was sad when Evilore removed your abillity to make threads, figured we would not have something like this again.
Currently checking out Episode 1 and whoever said in here that the visuals are unbearable must be crazy. Rating it above 99.9 percent of anime already just alone on that. I understand it from somewhere that it does change along the way? Love the smirk from the chick with orange hair. Probably will turn into a real bitch though.
Lol thanks. I forgot about those threads. I thought the mods were either cool as fuck and possibly on a vacation or else there were no mods somehow lol. So I just went with whatever I felt (LMFAO at that thread you posted ah man I forgot about that too hahahaha Mrs. Robinson and the fireplace :messenger_tears_of_joy: I honestly did not feel the presence of a mod at all until the pistol whip had already connected and took off my left eyebrow that day. I was new so the mistakes and learning curve were going to have to take place at some point. Little did I know I was in the scope of the rifle the entire time...

And yeah, I love the art direction all the way through. Totally different feel from the start to when things pick up more and more years later. Savor and enjoy it

Can't even put it into words how amazing One Piece is. It's something you have to watch and see exactly for yourself. Time well spent. You'll look back on it over the years and see what I mean if you continue on with it. Anime and manga are both extraordinarily well crafted
 

brap

Banned
No but I've always wondered about them. A friend of mine bought the One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 Deluxe Edition but I never played it. I know if I bought it I'd probably be spending 100-300 hrs on it knowing my love love for all the details. I always wanted to see how the quality measures up to the anime and manga though

Yo what did you think about Marineford bro? The last time I talked to you before you took an extended stay at the Playboy Mansion, you were just getting into Marineford I think. How did you like it overall? Favorite moment?

That arc....breathtaking. Just unbelievable non-stop action. My friend wasn't kidding when he told me I was about to witness some godly shit go down when I had finished up with Impel Down and got to Marineford
It was pretty epic tbh.
I felt pretty cucked when Ace lived THEN fucking died. Don't remember much about it but I always love when the marines are there. That's how you always know shits gonna go down. Buggy's antics were fucking hilarious. Then Shanks and Blackbeard fucking show up like goddamn. And you find out Luffy and Ace aren't really brothers. Just a ton of huge shit happening at once. Definitely in my top 5 arcs.
 

justAjohn

Member
J justAjohn

Wait, what are "the three big problems on One Piece" that you speak of? I've heard a lot of complaints before but never something like a big 3 sort of deal. Curious to hear what people are saying about that

I don't think it's unreasonable at all because they can simply skip the filler and get straight into the third major saga (and arguably one of the greatest story arcs in anime period) that follows after Skypiea. Almost all the arcs are excellent or superb in quality. A handful are outstanding. And some legendary even. For you to recommend stopping after Arlong Park, all I have to say about that is this lol

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Skypiea is the weakest of the sagas imo, but like I said, it's still excellent / a very strong arc despite my views on it. That's the standard you can expect when watching any given arc in One Piece; it's all high quality work

The three characters you mentioned
at the time were very interesting, but it came apparent that they were simply big fish in a small pond. They would never make it any further based of what we saw. I mean, Captain Kuro is so pathetic and even disgraceful, that it would be of horrible taste to even mention him again. I like Gin, he's cool. Don Krieg is all bark zero bite. He's literally a joke. What did he do well? Talk shit and boast of his armor that would protect him? Luffy took down that delusional psychopath of an old man when he was just beginning his journey at age 17. There's no way he'd ever make it bro.

Your views on One Piece are very interesting. You seem to enjoy it and watch a lot of it, but at the same time you are very critical of it for as much as you have watched. Ask as many questions as you'd like, I'm trying to learn more as I go as well too. So answering these questions allows me to go back and refresh my memory. In all honesty, I know it may be a waste of time to many, but I plan on re-watching One Piece one day in a theater. I might open one up if I ever have an extremely high net worth at any point in life lol, and get the rights to play everything One Piece hahahahahaha

Episode 1-15 will be Screening 1, episodes 16-32 screening room 2 and so on. A place to binge watch the entire anime that would be insane. Literally. But it would be interesting. Definitely would be interesting to run for a while though lol. If it can even sustain itself, that is
The three issues are inconsistent animation, a lot of fillers, padding and pacing issues. Filler issue can be taken care of by filler guide as you suggested, but other ones are not only unavoidable without resorting to something like One Pace, but getting worse as the time goes. Just compare Marineford as an adaptation to Wano as an adaptation.

I think we are miscommunicating on some level here. I do think that any person interested in anime should watch One Piece untill the end of Skypiea, then it is up to them. I do admit, as in my post above, that it is very demanding. I also acknowledge that in order to make up one´s mind about watching One Piece anime, watching up to the end of Arlong Park is generally thought to be enough. I do not in any shape, way or form advise people to stop watching after any arc, I only suggest that watching up to a certain point is enough for each and every one anime viewer to make their own opinion and decision.

Opinions on arcs are subjective. I hope you noticed that I keep discussing anime. I don´t mention manga. I think Skypiea is top One Piece anime and some other One Piece anime arcs are very weak (essentially after timeskip). AGAIN it has moments, as an overall package it is weak.

@ Three characters
That fish analogy works only for Don Krieg, Kuro wanted to quit (he realised it himself) and Gin wanted to stay in East Blue.

Don Krieg got a lot of East Blue under his control (through underhanded means, let´s not forget that though), which puts him above the ordinary. He challenged Grand Line, which in general populace is viewed as suicidal or very dangerous. He went in, he met Hawk Eyes, he failed and immediately thought of going back. There IS something to him. He is flawed, he is a bastard, he is conceited. If Oda worked on his progression from that point, that would have been a great message. If you cannot realise how hurtful your age commentary was just now, then you need to look back and read again what you wrote untill you realise it.

Gin was already a great character when we saw him first and he was placed before a great dillema. The fact that such a character could still face a development like this is incredible. He was a commander in Don Krieg´s fleet and started to wrestle with the power scaling, faults in Don, his own capacity and newfound rivals/friends. IMO he was just getting started and he was already so interesting, and we never see him again.

Kuro wanted to quit. His views, his powers, his efforts, his goal (quitting) were all challenged by Straw Hats and some even by his subordinates. At the end of the arc he was at his lowest point. He was also shown momentarily afterwards. The opportunity for development was all there. He was all the bad things you say and that´s why his story after clashing with Straw Hats would be so interesting.
J justAjohn oh btw, i don't even watch shonen jump enough to answer that question. all i've watched from shonen jump is One Piece that i can think of. unless HxH was a part of it
Fair enough, but humour me please. I am very interested in your take.
 

Cutty Flam

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It was pretty epic tbh.
I felt pretty cucked when Ace lived THEN fucking died. Don't remember much about it but I always love when the marines are there. That's how you always know shits gonna go down. Buggy's antics were fucking hilarious. Then Shanks and Blackbeard fucking show up like goddamn. And you find out Luffy and Ace aren't really brothers. Just a ton of huge shit happening at once. Definitely in my top 5 arcs.

Definitely is. I can't believe that arc to this day. 58 episodes straight of 10/10 content. There were some powerful moments to be sure...still left a lasting impression

The build up going from Amazon Lily (fun little arc, brief, intense and interesting arc) to Impel Down and the way it all happened, straight towards Marineford was almost too much to handle. That was some sequence, sometimes I don't know how Oda manages such consistently epic buildup leading into the pinnacle of a saga

Fushitsusha Fushitsusha The chick with the nice little smirk is really feisty. She's pretty badass in her own ways
 

Fushitsusha

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You're right Cutty Flam Cutty Flam this is pretty good stuff. Entertaining enough to see where it goes. There is potential here. Probably the first anime to catch my interest from the beginning? Not even JoJo which is one of the very few enjoyable ones managed to do so. Thought it was generic as fuck and took about until the introduction of Joseph Joestar to realize that it has something out of the ordinary to offer.

Now recognizing Roronoa Zoro Roronoa Zoro .
google nami hentai
WTF is Nami hentai, a category or her name? No, don't think I will. Probably enough to lose faith in humanity ruining the show. And then some.
[/USER] Fushitsusha Fushitsusha The chick with the nice little smirk is really feisty. She's pretty badass in her own ways
Hmm subtly not sounding too enthusiastic. It's not the "Nami hentai" responsible is it? :messenger_tongue:
 
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Cutty Flam

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J justAjohn

Ohhhh I see what you mean. The filler comes in bulk right after the end of the 44th episode. You're right. I didn't know what filler was at the time so I just watched it haha. It was a nice little filler arc, but looking back from what I know it was definitely tame compared to what Oda would have had in mind. Definitely is filler through and through despite being enjoyable to a new fan like myself at the time

I personally never had a problem with the pace since I enjoy it all. I even watched the intros and recaps well into I'd say the 700 episodes mark, likely up to like 730s if I were to guess. Loved a lot of the opening songs, loved the recaps and being refreshed on what was happening, and for me it was all good. But I only watch one, two absolute max anime at a time so I never rush anything. I started watching in 2015 because a friend had told me about it and wanted me to watch it. Best recommendation he could have given too. But I had always taken a leisure pace. I don't know how some people can burn through it like in 3 months even 6-8 months is way too quickly imo. But then again, I like taking my time and absorbing all the details given and such

Agreed. Episodes 1-44 are classic and a very fair sample size of what One Piece can be about. The very next arc after those 44 episodes (skipping past the filler arc) is an interesting one. Actually I think it's a very short two episode arc or something, AND THEN the arc I'm thinking of, which is brief as well; about three to four episodes. That arc, while short, is MAGNIFICENT. I think it's episodes 63-66 and the entire premise of that Island was the perfect transition to more dangerous, insidious activity within the
many islands of the Grand Line
I do think the episodes 1-44 are an excellent sample size to at least have a small idea about what One Piece can be though. Although, I'd personally urge any hardcore anime fan to watch until the 327th episode at the very least to get a true idea of One Piece and see fully, why One Piece is such a prominent anime in the culture. If they enjoy the anime, they should watch up to episode 327 to get a comprehensive idea of what Eiichiro Oda is capable of

Skypiea is dope. It's not entire in line with what I would call the top 10 arcs of One Piece but I definitely respect the creativity and it was an extremely, extremely fun and exhilarating arc. It's brilliant just as almost all of them are, but it is still my least favorite of the sagas. But see how highly I speak of it despite being my least favorite? That is how grand/epic the adventures are. They're that good. And personally I could not disagree more with the
post time-skip
as I think some of the best has come since then. In fact, I think it's been getting better and better. Hands down. The last three arc imo have been firing on all cylinders. One of the most epic, mindblowing, and shocking scenes in the entire anime happened just two arcs prior to the current arc imo. I could not be more excited about the current state of One Piece. A friend and I talked about it for two months straight, literally two months we discussed the current arc nonstop at work. It's that fucking hype. It's going to go down as the best, second or third best when it finishes no question. The way things are going, with how fucking hype things are getting, I might have to order some killer whale tranquilizer darts or some shit and shoot my damn self when things pop off in the anime

Gin I thought had the most potential, Don Krieg has success because of sheer numbers and force. I don't consider him to be a particular successful pirate. I honestly think he had a great streak of facing weaker crews and when he finally met a pirate with some serious skills he couldn't do a single thing to stop him. He's lucky Luffy was the wake up call in front of him instead of seeing Mihawk and having to take him on. He'd have been finished for good. And Captain Kuro, I can barely stand discussing him. But you're right, if he returned, I would be at the edge of my seat hoping and waiting for the moment he was taken down again. I hate that guy so much. Not nearly as much as Scratchman Apoo though

When it comes to those topics, I think One Piece encompasses them all to the fullest effect. Monkey D. Luffy is the most incredible leader in any fictional work I have ever witnessed. The lengths that he's went, the heart he's shown; I've never seen anything like this before. He's the epitome of all those and more.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Fushitsusha Fushitsusha

JJBA is phenomenal the same. I wish so badly that I could read Japanese so that I could advance in the manga (NIIIIIIIIIICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!)

One Piece at the start is glorious. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the legendary fight that takes place in the first 25 episodes if you end up watching. It happens so early in the anime, but it's definitely a top 10 fight for me, out of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds that have gone down so far. Possibly top 5 but I'd have to think on that...It's certainly a statement fight to say the least. The fight and the episode itself speaks volumes to me
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
I love Nami

Not a fan of hentai, it makes me laugh more than anything else lol but Nami is an incredible character. So much depth and complexity to her. I think a lot of fans overlook her contributions
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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It was pretty epic tbh.
I felt pretty cucked when Ace lived THEN fucking died. Don't remember much about it but I always love when the marines are there. That's how you always know shits gonna go down. Buggy's antics were fucking hilarious. Then Shanks and Blackbeard fucking show up like goddamn. And you find out Luffy and Ace aren't really brothers. Just a ton of huge shit happening at once. Definitely in my top 5 arcs.

MPFpyoP.jpg
It was extremely retarded
 

NahaNago

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Have they mentioned what the D in luffy's name stands for?
Who is Luffy's mom?
how is luffy going to defeat a yonko when he just got one shotted by the music guy?
I would think a pirate king or pirate period would have kids all over.
Do you think luffy will train to somewhat overcome his natural weakness to ocean water.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Have they mentioned what the D in luffy's name stands for?
Who is Luffy's mom?
how is luffy going to defeat a yonko when he just got one shotted by the music guy?
I would think a pirate king or pirate period would have kids all over.
Do you think luffy will train to somewhat overcome his natural weakness to ocean water.
It has been spoken on a couple times to a few, but it is still a mystery as to what the
“Will of D”
fully entails

We still have zero clue, we hardly know about
his biological father, Monkey D. Dragon, despite his incredible standing in the world. Not even Monkey D. Garp, Luffy’s grandfather has spoken a word about Dragon. He must be something else...Perhaps he’s ruthless and always accomplishes his goals with out much struggle. Maybe he’s the most feared character? Or maybe very few know his deeds yet those who do fear him? I am not sure

Scratchman Apoo is a very odd fighter with a very unusual Devil Fruit. He even caught Borsalino off his guard at Sabaody Archipelago with his strange ability. He’s a very underhanded fighter and takes full advantage of the fact that nobody expects music to deal damage. Even though, Luffy should be sharper knowing that it is possible with Brook given his abilities; fighting with sound. But I think Luffy was completely in primal mode just running with something in his mind if I remember right. Luffy doesn’t know Scratchman Apoo at all maybe only by rumor? I know he’s never seen him. And Luffy usually has to feel his opponents out. I think he’d still bury Scratchman Apoo despite being at disadvantage in knowing how he attacks well. But he’s not going to focus on him. Eustass “Captain” Kid is going to make him pay. I cannot wait to see that fight next episode. I’ve been waiting for this moment for over 400 episodes. I fucking HATE Scratchman Apoo with a passion. But Luffy is confident with his fight in Kaido. I don’t know what he has up his sleeve besides his newly mastered technique of Haki, but apparently Luffy is going to take full advantage of it and win in his mind; even though Kaido fucked him up in literally one blow. Gonna be good

He’s not showing any sign of distraction from his goal. There was one moment when Luffy,
Sanji, and Usopp all saw Mr. 2 Bon Clay Swan turn into naked Nami, revealing her breasts and Luffy had a major reaction along with the other two. So there is at least one instance where we have a reason to maybe believe Luffy does at the very least get a reaction from naked women (or maybe he was just amazed at Mr. 2’s ability lol) but yeah, his eyes are dead set on the goal and nothing can bother him in his pursuit. His belief in himself is 100% and even with the finest woman in the entire anime, he has not shown a single sign of wanting her. Luffy seems to not focus on women at all in that regard

That’s an interesting question. He has been called a very good swimmer in the first few episodes. Maybe he will find a way to get past the sea water being his (and nearly all other devil fruit users’) weakness

There is something very interesting though

There exists a devil fruit user who can live underwater despite having eaten a devil fruit. Yet he cannot move. And Kaido can somehow detect and retrieve him...Very unusual and peculiar. I wonder if they will explain by the end of this current arc in Wano Kuni
 
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