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[Rikoi]

Firing someone over some 6 years ago texts as if it indicates an history of sexual assault.
Firing someone from his job because of "words" should be illegal. And if accusations prove to be false, they should be compesated for the damage received from their ex employer too.

Too often we are seeing people getting cancelled and fired from software houses or movies for silly reasons, if you people have any empathy or care about your games quality start boycotting this madness and make your voices heard until it only gets worse.
At this point we should fight fake accusations and companies that support them, they don't care about their employees life, they will just instantly fire them as long as their "image" keeps clean, even if the accusations are false.
This has to change.

 

[Jboemios]

Can we make a list of studios or game devs to avoid because of their eerily disgusting wokeness?

It is easier to name the non woke Studios.

 

[Germuso]

So his career is over, that hurts.

 

[VN1X]

So his career is over, that hurts.

Yup just read that they cut ties with him. Damn. Social media huh?

With all these other claims over the past few days I actually forgot what he's even done? Has there been any truth to the claims regarding Avallone?

 

[Teslerum]

Yup just read that they cut ties with him. Damn. Social media huh?

With all these other claims over the past few days I actually forgot what he's even done? Has there been any truth to the claims regarding Avallone?

Off the believable stuff sexting with a women in a relationship. Who turns out is completly happy with open relationships and fucking other people besides her boyfriend. But apparently she *couldn't forget* that sext.

 

[Teslerum]

The backstabbing continues





Which gets me absolutly fucking angry. You know WHO pointed out McComb's and Maldonado's work first in interviews (and where Nathanial Chapman most likely has that information from?) CHRIS AVELLONE. You know who nearly ruined his health over working on Torment because he poured so much into it? CHRIS AVELLONE.

This gets me angry. Chris has never, ever been shy about giving credit. Chapman knows this.

 

[niilokin]

First come the accusations then the undermining. So if the people realize he's not an assault rapist yet his career is gone, they can say he wasn't even that good. PST is one of my favourite games, stories and experiences ever I doubt that would be the case without Chris.

 

[eot]

The fuck?

Techland cuts ties with Chris Avellone on Dying Light 2 amid sexual harassment allegations

After multiple accusations of sexual misconduct and predation against Chris Avellone, Techland has cut ties with the designer and writer and ceased cooperation on Dying Light 2.

www.shacknews.com

 

[Rikkori]

It is easier to name the non woke Studios.

Are there any even? I sorta consider Warhorse one, but can't definitively say. Hell, I would say even CDPR is also gone woke and will only worsen. You just can't grow that big and not submit to the cult.

 

[CAB_Life]

Sophia, once again, showing Schreier how it’s done.

 

[Lanrutcon]

The fuck?

Techland cuts ties with Chris Avellone on Dying Light 2 amid sexual harassment allegations

After multiple accusations of sexual misconduct and predation against Chris Avellone, Techland has cut ties with the designer and writer and ceased cooperation on Dying Light 2.

www.shacknews.com

Techland just landed on my shit list.

 

[kuncol02]

So it’s pretty apparent that these shitty writers who couldn’t get by on merit alone are shanking the guy, right? Now that he’s been made poison a whole bunch of consulting opportunities are going to come up that would’ve otherwise been offered to him.

What’s even more shitty is that he probably gave these people advice, guidance and connections when they were starting out.

If that's true, then why most of games have writing at best on level of some B movie (even big ones) ? If that's true, then why people like Rhianna Pratchet are still working in industry?

The fuck?

Techland cuts ties with Chris Avellone on Dying Light 2 amid sexual harassment allegations

After multiple accusations of sexual misconduct and predation against Chris Avellone, Techland has cut ties with the designer and writer and ceased cooperation on Dying Light 2.

www.shacknews.com

That was already posted. I can't blame them. Not everyone have ability to not bend in situation like that )like for example Dan Vávra). Especially if rumors about buyout of Techland are true. There is also huge difference between firing someone and purging his work (like Vampire devs did).

 

[ambar_hitman]

Wtf is wrong with such women? What's next, a metoo or rape allegation for some guy who never texted back after first date?
This whole toxic movement will lead to below:

1. Men embracing MGTOW culture.
2. Men avoiding women completely in professional space.

Both of these things are more harmful to women than men. Don't these women get this? And people over at SimpERA are treating this guy as sexual predator and rapist. WTF is going on.

 

[ShadowNate]

Do you think that also blackmail will not be associated with this in the future?

We are seeing what happens after such allegations come on twitter. The target gets destroyed.

So why not go for blackmail so as not to "go public on twitter"? Even if the claim is "their experience of the events". Not remotely close to rape or even assault. Just their take of a bad or awkward date.

I mean, the smarter or the most deranged ones, get what they want just by directly going public. More likes, maybe some funding support, being in the spotlight, more views, maybe an interview and exposure, maybe a brand new job, their target getting canceled etc.

What about the dumber ones?

 

[hariseldon]

Do you think that also blackmail will not be associated with this in the future?

We are seeing what happens after such allegations come on twitter. The target gets destroyed.

So why not go for blackmail so as not to "go public on twitter"? Even if the claim is "their experience of the events". Not remotely close to rape or even assault. Just their take of a bad or awkward date.

I mean, the smarter or the most deranged ones, get what they want just by directly going public. More likes, maybe some funding support, being in the spotlight, more views, maybe an interview and exposure, maybe a brand new job, their target getting canceled etc.

What about the dumber ones?

I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't what happened here though. CA maybe said no to blackmail and this is the consequence. We already see some fairly public shakedowns with the likes of Sarkesian hinting to companies that they should hire her for training/consultancy to avoid twitter storms.

 

[Nico_D]

These people are not ok. Washing any private laudry publicly is yelling immaturity. Especially in the last couple of cases where it looks quite strongly to be relationship stuff. Like, adult stuff.

These people are seeing monsters everywhere and that is certainly not normal. Even Obama talked about this new "activism" and didn't have that many kind words about it. Maybe they should cancel him too.

 

[Teslerum]

Backstabbing continues even more

Avellone got kicked from lockdowncon

7:00pm
Narrative Design For Computer Games
Jana Hallford (M), Neal Hallford, Anne Toole, Haris Orkin, Xalavier Nelson Jr., Whitney Beltrán

I love video games, but honestly the video game industry seems to one of the most toxic workplaces you could ever work in. Regardless if their your friends or colleagues. Nobody, nobody seem to give you the benefit of the doubt.

This is sickening behavior. Your highschool bully cares more about you than these people.

 

[Cunth]

Why are these victims always also activists

 

[Kadayi]

LOL, I just got a warning from paradox forums for wrong think for posting the Stalin Gif in a thread about it. hilarious. 2+2 = 5 . Definitely rethinking whether I'll get VTM:B2 now and I might put CK3 on the 'Wait for a sale list as well'

 

[Handel]

Won't buy any games from these cowardly companies giving weight to this bullshit campaign against CA. I donated $10 to Owlcat's WotR Kickstarter but that's all they'll get out of me if they throw Chris under the bus.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

In the meantime Obsidian also landed on my do not buy list. Or at least Sawyer did.

A lot of people showed their true colors this week. It's one thing to spout your political views on Twitter but to backstab a former friend/colleague when they're at their lowest for a few scraps off the table of woke is something else.

 

[Hendrick's]

The fuck?

Techland cuts ties with Chris Avellone on Dying Light 2 amid sexual harassment allegations

After multiple accusations of sexual misconduct and predation against Chris Avellone, Techland has cut ties with the designer and writer and ceased cooperation on Dying Light 2.

www.shacknews.com

I'm sure the writing has long been completed so this is a hollow gesture to appease the mob.

 

[Teslerum]

Schreier hitpiece has arrived

Christy Dena, a video game designer, said she and Avellone had been friendly for years when they met up at a convention in Melbourne in 2013. She went out drinking with him and a few other friends, she said in an interview, and he was “continuously buying drinks” for the group. “At every event we went to, he’d just put the company card down and buy everybody drinks,” Dena said.

The two of them went back to her hotel room, Dena said, and that the next thing she remembers is waking up next to him with no clothes on. “I remember going back to the room, but then I don't remember much of what happened in the room at all,” she said. “And then just waking up in the morning. He said, ‘Oh, we didn't do anything,’ but of course my clothes were off.”

Avellone is still the master of the magic drunk-funnel technique. Of course this will be twisted into full-on rape.

Either Avellone finally lawyers up or this is the end for him.

 

[niilokin]

I'm starting to believe these women... need a legal guardian to take care of them. Are they seriously so fucking weak to turn down drinks if it bothers them so much afterwards?

 

[Teslerum]

I'm starting to believe these women... need a legal guardian to take care of them. Are they seriously so fucking weak to turn down drinks if it bothers them so much afterwards?

Adding to that all of those women (except one which is dubious to begin with) stayed friendly with Chris years after (more than they had to in any capacity). It has only NOW become a problem.

Edit: BTW: She was 40 at the time of the incident.

 

[eot]

Avellone is still the master of the magic drunk-funnel technique. Of course this will be twisted into full-on rape.

Either Avellone finally lawyers up or this is the end for him.

Since when is buying drinks for everyone a crime? I can't count the number of drinks I've bought for other people. Waking up without your clothes and no memory is scary, but that doesn't immediately imply the other person drugged and took advantage of you. I've woken up places without knowing how I got there several times. Where does personal responsibility kick in for these women?

 

[Dontero]

Well they should ask their parents about opinion because clearly these women are children if they don't know that you can get hammered when you drink and you should only drink as much as you want not as much as someone else wants.

I like to get hammered completely though. There is no party if you are not hammered.

 

[Teslerum]

 

[Starfield]

It is easier to name the non woke Studios.

which are?

 

[kuncol02]

which are?

Warhorse Studios. AFAIR there was even ban on resetera on talking about their game. Destructive Creations is also not woke.

 

[Hudo]

In the meantime Obsidian also landed on my do not buy list. Or at least Sawyer did.

Could you (or someone else) explain to me what he means by this?

 

[Teslerum]

Could you (or someone else) explain to me what he means by this?

The original post was a women complaining how horrible it is that men can prove their innocent with recipes (Like Justin Bieber or Angry Joe gathering evidence). And thats why most women don't come forward. And now she had to take a minute and go out to reflect on how horrible the world is. So, Sawyer wanted to support her with that tweet.

I shit you not.

 

[Hudo]

The original post was a women complaining how horrible it is that men can prove their innocent with recipes (Like Justin Bieber or Angry Joe gathering evidence). And thats why most women don't come forward. And now she had to take a minute and go out to reflect on how horrible the world is. So, Sawyer wanted to support her with that tweet.

I shit you not.

... what the fuck.

EDIT: Thanks for the explanation, though. I appreciate it!

 

[Astral Dog]

This really is a sad state of affairs. I didn't know who this guy was before, never heard of him, have no stake in trying to defend him, but all I keep reading is that this guy was behaving...like a human being?

I don't see anything crime worthy, or even something worth "believing"? Like, sure...I can totally believe 100% that what this woman is saying is true, not even gonna doubt her. But so what? what the fuck did he do wrong exactly?

Seeing this shit happening on an almost weekly basis for someone new is just really wearing me down. I'm already someone who has severe social anxiety, and wants to hide away from people because I get nervous with social situations. These situations just add to any potential trust issues I already have. I can't trust a damn woman out there, because I might be accused of something because I'm an awkward guy who may say or do something stupid someday.

Feel like I'm better off burying my head in the sand, and just cutting the world off sometimes.

You take this stuff too seriously dude, just relax and be yourself, don't be afraid of talking to women or anyone else just because some nerds said something on the internet you need to get out more (well no out but you get what i mean ) don't blame them for your social anxiety either, thats something that you and only YOU has to work on

 

[Hendrick's]

Schreier hitpiece has arrived





Avellone is still the master of the magic drunk-funnel technique. Of course this will be twisted into full-on rape.

Either Avellone finally lawyers up or this is the end for him.

So buying drinks for people is now forcing them to drink them? What?
If you buy a girl drinks and she accepts them, gets drunk, and then sleeps with you it's sexual assault?

I'm glad I'm not famous or on Twitter.

 

[EviLore]

“fed them drinks”

The weasel strikes again. Hang in there, Chris. Hang in there.

 

[Rikoi]

“fed them drinks”

I'm now imagining him with a feeding bottle in his hand, running to the adult woman to feed her the hourly dose of beer, there is no way she could have refused or say I don't like/don't want anymore alcohol

 

[hyperbertha]

Taken from an RPGCodex poster that shot back.

So if someone who's so good that he consistently produces masterpieces (90 percent of everything he works on) is replaceable and 'aint shit' does that mean nobody can ever be above average at anything? If she truly believes this (which I'm 90 percent sure she doesn't) that says a lot about her own standards and how much skill she has developed in whatever it is that she does. Not surprising. None of these cockroaches are there for the craft.

The original post was a women complaining how horrible it is that men can prove their innocent with recipes (Like Justin Bieber or Angry Joe gathering evidence). And thats why most women don't come forward. And now she had to take a minute and go out to reflect on how horrible the world is. So, Sawyer wanted to support her with that tweet.

I shit you not.

The fuck? I can't read her tweet since its private can you actually please post that? There's no way that can be true?

 

[Hudo]

Schreier hitpiece has arrived





Avellone is still the master of the magic drunk-funnel technique. Of course this will be twisted into full-on rape.

Either Avellone finally lawyers up or this is the end for him.

Can't read the article because of the paywall but did he also interview Chris Avellone or ask him for a response on this? I mean, I don't expect any journalistic work done by Schreier since he's not (by his own admission) a journalist but he moonlights as one, so...

 

[Teslerum]

The fuck? I can't read her tweet since its private can you actually please post that? There's no way that can be true?

It is, but the post wasn't private initially and I didn't make a pic. I have one of someone else talking about it though

 

[Newly Vacant]

 

[hyperbertha]

It is, but the post wasn't private initially and I didn't make a pic. I have one of someone else talking about it though

Gotta be a reason she made it private. Probably figured she made a mistake. We really need a screenshot of that. It would be good ammunition to showcase just how crazy these clowns are.

 

[hyperbertha]

 

[anthraticus]

Are there any even? I sorta consider Warhorse one, but can't definitively say. Hell, I would say even CDPR is also gone woke and will only worsen. You just can't grow that big and not submit to the cult.

Yet another reason to avoid AAA (on top of all the dumbing down in their games)

 

[CatLady]

If you have Twitter, send him some positive/supportive vibes with an @ message. Each one of those matters a ton when you‘re in the thick of an awful situation like this.

Also if you have a twitter account report the originator of this twitter mob for targeted harassment.

 

[CatLady]

Tweets like this are why we need a vomit reaction emoji.

My hatred for this hag knows no bounds.

 

[M1chl]

Warhorse Studios. AFAIR there was even ban on resetera on talking about their game. Destructive Creations is also not woke.

Amanita is also not woke, even tho they are bunch of hippies.
Zdravim pane Profesore, kdyžtak.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Avellone isn't dead yet but Schreier is on the case, just give him some time. Also, Zoe Quinn, aka the Soul Stealer, just threw her hat in the ring so that will likely speed things up.

 

[Newly Vacant]

Avellone isn't dead yet but Schreier is on the case, just give him some time. Also, Zoe Quinn, aka the Soul Stealer just threw her hat in the ring so that will likely speed things up.

I meant it metaphorically, but seeing this escalate could make this prophetic.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Can some please explain that "fed them drinks" thing like I'm 5?
How do you "feed" someone drinks?
Why would someone complain about a guy buying drinks?