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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Darklor01

Might need to stop sniffing glue
so why question them:

zoomed out because of the scenery.

it's like you first time seeing someone zoomed out to show of scenery.

why not to play? alloy riding charger on shore to show of pretty water and view that's why companies make trailer to show of they games i don't know why it's seems bad for you to make trailer with cinematic camera angles?

You know.. all of the sudden, I just remembered how in Red Dead Redemption 2 while riding a horse, I could press a button and have a zoomed out, no hud, cinematic view with multiple camera angles as the character rides the horse. It was a horse on auto-pilot, but.. I wonder if it was 1:1 graphics fidelity as the game scene being taken control of instantly. If so, .. well.. maybe that's like this.. only, this game doesn't likely do that.
 

iamvin22

Industry Verified
You guys thought Infinite looked bad at 60 fps... just wait until you see it rendered twice the rate (or not because only 0.0001% of tv owners will be able to see it)....

Haha yea. The 120fps is so stupid. None of these guys own such a TV. Not even the devs do. Just another marketing term that none of these gamers will experience
 

farmerboy

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Wow, just jumping in I'm finding it hard to parse what's going on in here. Seems like VFXVeteran VFXVeteran fighting on a couple of different fronts.

In engine cut scenes have been great because they do allow seamless transition from gameplay to cut scene and back again. But they are of a higher quality. I'm hoping that ps4 cut scene becomes ps5 gameplay, that for me would be a worthy jump in quality.

VFXVeteran VFXVeteran I don't mind you're biases, but you can be childish about them, and you convey a certain arrogance when explaining your position. That may not be the case, but thats how I see it.

@everyone else, why do you let him rile you up so? I think he's got some great stuff to add.

Can't we all try just a little harder to not be disingenuous in our posting?
 

Neo Blaster

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Summary of the last ten pages:

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So does this mean that Halo Infinite will only be launching with single player this fall?. Will the multiplayer be its own launch later? Also, on Xbox, free to play games like COD Warzone currently require Xbox Live Gold, so they will definitely need to drop that requirement.

I wonder if Halo Infinite can keep the same fidelity as the footage shown at the July event while being 120fps?
 

GRIEVEZ

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Jesus this threads become more of a mess. Yet when I call out the one responsible I get told to pipe down.
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Im jk.

Mass reports just isnt the way... Unless he starts cursing people. But yeah... its kind of obvious what hes doing here - which is a shame, his username is slowly becoming a meme (infact I made one, but dont feel comfortable posting it - when so many are in discussion with him...)
 
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VFXVeteran

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No, I said they shouldnt report you or other MS fanboys because mass reporting got this thread locked last time. I encourage people to reply to you and point out the dozens of fallacies in your statements. Just like I did today when I caught you just lying to everyone. I have no patience for liars or fake insiders. I will never defend you guys or tell people to lay off of you. I think we are all big boys here who dont have to get mods involved, but dont for a second think that you can make shit up and I will be ok with it.

First of all, I don't owe you or anyone on these boards anything. I'll not make that mistake again with giving you any kind of info before release. So for that, I'll bite the bullet on. However, I don't need you to defend me. I've been at this long enough and I don't care about what you fans think about me. That much should be obvious by me still hanging around here. So don't think you have some status or something on these boards that make you defer from sicking your boys on me or something.

Everyone who has played any games with realtime cutscenes this gen knows that realtime cutscenes look better than gameplay. it is known. You have found yourself clinging on to this by moving goalposts over and over again. Unlike you, people have actually played sony exclusives like god of war and know the difference between a realtime cutscene and a pre-rendered cutscene which is why we think Horizon 2 will come very close to that.

And this is why the Xbox boys (and anyone else with any reasonable sense) don't like you Sony fans. You try your best to elevate the PS any chance you get. All of your arguments are centered around cinematics (which is exactly what you got with HZ2, DS3, etc..) and try to mitigate the differences in visual quality JUST to brag about something you have no clue how it works. I hate that and I'll continue to balance out that equation. You guys are bullies. Period. And the same arrogance you complain of with me, you carry yourself.

We had already settled this argument yesterday, but here you are again, bringing this up because you were caught lying about having a source you didnt have, and you want everyone to move on to a different topic no matter how ridiculous it makes you look.

I don't need to lie to you. But I'll fix that very quickly. I just won't mention what I know ever again. Problem solved.
 
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qiqiqiiq

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Halo's multiplayer being free to play is good news to me, because now I don't have to buy Infinite, I just hope there's crossplay with Xbox players and controller lobbies like in Modern Warfare.
 
First of all, I don't owe you or anyone on these boards anything. I'll not make that mistake again with giving you any kind of info before release. So for that, I'll bite the bullet on. However, I don't need you to defend me. I've been at this long enough and I don't care about what you fans think about me. That much should be obvious by me still hanging around here. So don't think you have some status or something on these boards that make you defer from sicking your boys on me or something.



And this is why the Xbox boys (and anyone else with any reasonable sense) don't like you Sony fans. You try your best to elevate the PS any chance you get. All of your arguments are centered around cinematics (which is exactly what you got with HZ2, DS3, etc..) and try to mitigate the differences in visual quality JUST to brag about something you have no clue how it works. I hate that and I'll continue to balance out that equation. You guys are bullies. Period. And the same arrogance you complain of with me, you carry yourself.



I don't need to lie to you. But I'll fix that very quickly. I just won't mention what I know ever again. Problem solved.

I look forward to when another Sony exclusive gets GOTY and you throw a strop again
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Yes.

Look at the screenshot I took of the cinematics.

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Notice how the hair shading has 3 lobes: 1 diffuse lobe, and 2 specular lobes. The shading looks a lot more varied and natural. In the gameplay it looks like they painted in the specular terms and only use diffuse for the hair as the highlights are always at the tips (which is not correct) no matter what angle the sun hits it.

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Btw, I just want to note that games don't render actual hair curves. They are a clump of plane strips that are semi-transparent. It's far more efficient to render this than actual geometry individual hair strands.

That cinematic is flawless, but HFW has some flaws when zoomed in which is running in real time:

800% zoom, you can't see that in native 4K as 800% means 16K.

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Geometry Engines working their magic, it's laughable to question it after we saw this gameplay.

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It's outrageous to compare to PS4 instead of actual evidence of gameplay running on PS5 doing even much more easily. Stop acting smart because you are intentionally misleading and spreading FUD.
 
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MS is really shaking things up. Halo free to play. XBL no longer being required for multiplayer. This is going to be an insane gen.

You know Microsoft's definition of a FTP game is different from Sonys.

But I can see them dripping the gold requirement for FTP games but I can't see them dropping it for all games.

Unless that's been announced by them and I'm missing it?
 

Thirty7ven

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The crossfire X trailer at the Xbox event had two disclaimers, one was that the single player would be sold separately and the other was that you needed an Xbox Live Gold subscription to play online.

So either MS is playing 4D checkers or...
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
You know Microsoft's definition of a FTP game is different from Sonys.

But I can see them dripping the gold requirement for FTP games but I can't see them dropping it for all games.

Unless that's been announced by them and I'm missing it?
Check the Jeff Grubb thread. He seems convinced.

And unlike other fake insiders, Jeff hasny gotten much wrong yet.
 
You know Microsoft's definition of a FTP game is different from Sonys.

But I can see them dripping the gold requirement for FTP games but I can't see them dropping it for all games.

Unless that's been announced by them and I'm missing it?
A very well known insider has pretty much said MS will be dropping it entirely. Don't think he'd put his reputation on the line unless he was certain.
 
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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
A very well known insider has pretty much said MS will be dropping it entirely. Don't think he'd put his reputation on the line unless he was certain.
He's a journalist with a decent track record but he's also been wrong in the past.

edit: I mean.. "I think it's going away entirely."

Really guys? He doesn't even seem that certain himself lol
 
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"I think it's going away entirely."

That's "very confident" to you?

He seems confused to me lol



I can understand FTP games because that will get more people to play them. But all games?

Can't see this happening unless Microsoft wants to substitute the lost revenue from Gold with something else. Like more MTX for example.

Just guessing.
 
He’s speculating. If they drop Gold requirement for Gamepass online, it will bring them to the same standard practice as PlayStation Now. If they drop Gold requirement for F2P, it brings them to the same standard as PlayStation.
And what if MS drops the paywall for playing online all together?
 

jose4gg

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I can understand FTP games because that will get more people to play them. But all games?

Can't see this happening unless Microsoft wants to substitute the lost revenue from Gold with something else. Like more MTX for example.

Just guessing.

It would be huge If the get rid of it entirely, but I feel getting rid of it for FTP games is more plausible.
 

3liteDragon

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If this is true, do you think it will push Sony to follow suit?

I don't believe they will unless they have a flop of a console launch.
The backlash would be great. Sony would soon after have to follow suit or be labled and perceived as anti consumer. Believe it or not, not everyone is a diehard sony fanboy with a sony shrine in the basement.
 
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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I can understand FTP games because that will get more people to play them. But all games?

Can't see this happening unless Microsoft wants to substitute the lost revenue from Gold with something else. Like more MTX for example.

Just guessing.
It's basically the only money they made off of all of us doing that $1 for up to 3 years of Ultimate deal since it still required you pay for 3 years of XBL Gold ahead of time.

Curious if they made this change what happens to everyone who has pre-purchased Gold for up to 3 years? Refunds?

edit: You know what I just realized? They could just upgrade everyone to Gamepass Ultimate for free. I mean they've been giving it away for $1 anyways.
 
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Thirty7ven

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If this is true, do you think it will push Sony to follow suit?

I don't believe they will unless they have a flop of a console launch.

If they drop Gold entirely and all online is free it will cause a shockwave in the industry. Considering they have what? Over 30 million subscribers? That would be a monumental loss of revenue overnight, so it would be pretty insane.

Sony would be in an hilarious position if that happens.
 
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