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Rumour: Dualsense lasts 10-12 hours

Never had an issue with DS4 battery. How long are you guys playing for? Definitely don’t plan on having a 10 hour gaming session. 3-4 the max.
 

Nymphae

Banned
You do realize you can use the DS4 wired? Get a long MicroUSB cable and enjoy your wired, no battery charge required life.

Yes of course I do realize that that is an option (as I said I'm not retarded), I don't need to though because they still have life in them. Does using the wire shut off the bluetooth transmission? I'm saying I would prefer it if controllers just had a hard wire again.
 

Saber

Gold Member
Never had an issue with DS4 battery. How long are you guys playing for? Definitely don’t plan on having a 10 hour gaming session. 3-4 the max.

From the look of the complains and comparisons they play 24 hours per day.

Oh yeah and using a USB cable looks like a cancer for them, equal to arrow in the knee.
 

YoodlePro

Member
I really don't understand how some people can accept AA batteries for widespread consumer electronics in 2020 man. And then really defend it while bashing a 10 hour battery life.

Why the hell do you think most electronics are moving to Li-Po? Even headphones have LiPos in them now.
Are they limiting you? would you rather carry Duracells everywhere with you? smh...
 

thelastword

Banned
although I wish the rechargable pack was replaceable after it degrades. But they'd obviously prefer to sell more controllers.

I could probably replace the battery in the DS4 as quickly as I would be fiddling with a couple of eneloops on an XBONE controller....


Loose controllers inside your controller, controllers not touching the contact points, covers of the battery compartment falling off, batteries falling off are all real issues. Besides, putting batteries in things seems so much like we are still in the VCR era. Sony could always go for a huge 4000 mAh battery like I have in my phone, but it's always a balancing act, and cost would be an issue in that scenario.

The other thing and most important bit is this. Controller features, yes they do drain battery life, but the features overcomes having more battery life at the cost of such features.....DS4: only controller to have a trackpad, led for visual imagery/cues and for VR, it is also a motion controller, it debuted with an audio jack and speaker, whilst the other controllers never offered these features. I'd take these features over a basic controller with 40 hours of battery life anyday, where I have to swap eneloops, make sure sure my investment in eneloops and AA chargers are sustained and that the batteries are always charged when I need them. Usually people forget to charge AA batteries because it's lasts 40 hours right? So they still run into having to charge anyway.

I game for a session, I charge, but let's be clear. Which enthusiast or even casual gamer who always talks about gaming with friends and family only have 1 controller? You buy a console and throughout it's lifespan, you only have one controller?
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
I disagree since it’s less fuss.
But you can just put a play and charge kit battery in the Xbox controller and now it’s a built in rechargeable battery like the dual sense? And then when the battery doesn’t hold enough charge for you, simply buy another and chuck it in without having to scour eBay for dodgy batteries and take the controller apart to replace it.

Like I said, best of both worlds.

I really don't understand how some people can accept AA batteries for widespread consumer electronics in 2020 man. And then really defend it while bashing a 10 hour battery life.

Why the hell do you think most electronics are moving to Li-Po? Even headphones have LiPos in them now.
Are they limiting you? would you rather carry Duracells everywhere with you? smh...
You can’t understand how people can like cheap and easy consumer friendly rechargeable batteries that mean you can have an unlimited supply of power for your controller easily and cheaply and not have to buy a new controller when the battery won’t hold much charge? Really?
 
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Battery degradation, people who turn off the console, people who don’t charge between sessions etc..

My launch DS4 still works fine.
But you can just put a play and charge kit battery in the Xbox controller and now it’s a built in rechargeable battery like the dual sense? And then when the battery doesn’t hold enough charge for you, simply buy another and chuck it in without having to scour eBay for dodgy batteries and take the controller apart to replace it.

Like I said, best of both worlds

MS is smart by having the AA battery so you can spend money on their accessories.
 
I really dont care how long they last, after im playing I usually put them to charge so this has never been an issue ever since PS3, besides, I usually have 2 controllers anyway.
 

Patterson

Member
Since console controllers bacame wireless I've always had two of them. One is always charging while I use the other. When the one I'm using is low on battery I change them. Been doing it for 20 years now.
I do the same thing and it’s never been a problem. And now that we’re getting longer battery life is a plus.
 

YoodlePro

Member
But you can just put a play and charge kit battery in the Xbox controller and now it’s a built in rechargeable battery like the dual sense? And then when the battery doesn’t hold enough charge for you, simply buy another and chuck it in without having to scour eBay for dodgy batteries and take the controller apart to replace it.

Like I said, best of both worlds.


You can’t understand how people can like cheap and easy consumer friendly rechargeable batteries that mean you can have an unlimited supply of power for your controller easily and cheaply and not have to buy a new controller when the battery won’t hold much charge? Really?
Yes really!

Unlimited if you have batteries lying around.. also, I have unlimited supply of powers to my controllers? How? I have two, one is charging while with the other I play. It's like... magic.

If the battery dies I take it back to Sony for battery replacement. Are you telling me that if the battery dies in your smartphone you scour eBay for dodgy batteries and install them yourself? Didn't think so.

Also how about environmentally friendly for once? NiMh batteries have a higher environment impact than Lithium based batteries.
I suppose comfort trumps the environment that's why we're where we're at in the first place.

But sure, keep using batteries my friend, you're definitely not part of the problem.
 
No one cares keep using your batteries well be good 😊
I really don't understand how some people can accept AA batteries for widespread consumer electronics in 2020 man. And then really defend it while bashing a 10 hour battery life.

Why the hell do you think most electronics are moving to Li-Po? Even headphones have LiPos in them now.
Are they limiting you? would you rather carry Duracells everywhere with you? smh...
A 10-hour battery life is a joke. If I have to constantly charge something every few hours it is not user friendly. And why in the world would you carry batties around with you no one takes their consoles to other people's houses? Educate yourself.
 
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YoodlePro

Member
A 10-hour battery life is a joke. If I have to constantly charge something every few hours it is not user friendly. And why in the world would you carry batties around with you no one takes their consoles to other people's houses? Educated yourself.
Umm if you paid more attention, the "carry your batteries around with you" quote was for my example of headphones, which obviously use LiPos not AA batteries. Should probably educate yourself to read? instead of assuming what the other person says and then insult?

Just a thought.

EDIT: also,10 hours is now every few hours? You're reaching man
 
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Umm if you paid more attention, the "carry your batteries around with you" quote was for my example of headphones, which obviously use LiPos not AA batteries. Should probably educate yourself to read? instead of assuming what the other person says and then insult?

Just a thought.

EDIT: also,10 hours is now every few hours? You're reaching man
I didn't insult you just blindly taking up for a horrible choice is on you man. Peace out.
 

YoodlePro

Member
It is if you don't use it for 10-12 hours in a gaming session. Someone said that you can charge it up to 80% with just 30 minutes. I'm sure you can find time to take a break and charge the controller back up.
Exactly... with USB-C port you can probably charge 50% of the battery in 15 minutes. If we stuck by the reasoning some people here have we'd still be having 4 hours charging time on iPhones...
 

mortal

Gold Member
That's great. I'm not gaming for literally half the day, so this is plenty on a single charge.

I don't see how anyone would be displeased with this improvement.
 

YoodlePro

Member
As if I throw them away anytime soon... you never used Eneloops do you?
The thing is, it's not the environment impact of "after". Not when you throw them away. It's before.

The process to make them creates more greenhouse gas than making an equivalent LiPo battery.
I've not used that specific brand of batteries no, but I have used rechargeable batteries in the past and in this day and age they are dinosaurs.

Can you charge them to 80% in 30 minutes?
 

Dargor

Member
If they dont degrade too much, this will be great. I was kinda worried the battery life would get worse with the amount of new features they added, but it got longer, so kinda happy.
 

vkbest

Member
I'm saying they are cutting corners to get bigger margins on it and make a bigger profit. DS4 doesn't last fine...

Compare them to the controllers of their competitors and then you see it's shit.
  • Swith Pro - 40 hours
  • Xbox Elite 2 - 40 hours
  • Xbox One - 30 hours

I don’t know about Xbox gamepad, but no way Switch Pro is 40 hours. It’s 25- 30 hours at best
 
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Wizz-Art

Member
The thing is, it's not the environment impact of "after". Not when you throw them away. It's before.

The process to make them creates more greenhouse gas than making an equivalent LiPo battery.
I've not used that specific brand of batteries no, but I have used rechargeable batteries in the past and in this day and age they are dinosaurs.

Can you charge them to 80% in 30 minutes?

I don't know, I always charge them 100% and that takes about three hours.

Yeah are we doing this? Making a Dual Sense controller will cost way more greenhouse gas, so after a couple of years when the accu of the controller inevitably degrades you need to buy a new one which isn't so enviroment friendly as you think.

Meanwhile My Eneloops even at one third of their charge which will be years anyway I'll bet they will reach 10 hours no problem.
 
Battery degradation, people who turn off the console, people who don’t charge between sessions etc..

Battery degradation is over-exaggerated. I've had my controller for 3 years and I still lasts around 5 or so hours.

If you're not going to charge your controller after a couple of sessions then that's a you problem.
 

YoodlePro

Member
I don't know, I always charge them 100% and that takes about three hours.

Yeah are we doing this? Making a Dual Sense controller will cost way more greenhouse gas, so after a couple of years when the accu of the controller inevitably degrades you need to buy a new one which isn't so enviroment friendly as you think.

Meanwhile My Eneloops even at one third of their charge which will be years anyway I'll bet they will reach 10 hours no problem.
You are right that making the controller emits more greenhouse gas than making a battery, but I've seen more than one person assuming I'd buy a new one? Is this general practice??

As soon as I have battery problems I take them to an official rep and have the battery REPLACED, I don't buy a new controller!
 

LordOfChaos

Member
I for one have never had the Dualshock 4's battery life become an issue while playing. This is on a 4 year old one from a CUH-1200 in 2016. PS4 is set to power USB ports for three hours after sleeping, I just plug it in when I'm done, and whatever the total battery life is now, I've never exceeded it in a single gaming session, on my very longest sessions I would have just barely made it to the last 'bar' with probably a third left.

The only controller I had battery life issues with in play was the Wii U gamepad. 10-12 hours is gravy with me.

I'm interested in hearing the rated cycle life for this battery, that's at least as important to me.
 
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