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I have a theory about how our Universe was created and how it will end

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Hi fellow gaffers, this is my first thread so go easy on me. For the past 10 years I was writing a book that tries to provide logical, believable and scientific answers to all questions related to God, soul, ghost, afterlife, heaven, hell and the universe. And after being satisfied with my research and completing my book, I now want to share it. I have been a lurker on this site for many years but now want to share my own views, thoughts and opinions too and participate in discussions. So here is what I found about the origin and end of our universe.

I think that big bang(the big explosion which most scientists believe that created the universe) was just a supernova (explosion) in a super massive black hole that contained everything that we can see today in the universe. As even today we believe that every galaxy has a super massive black hole in their center. After billions of years when each star of every galaxy has exhausted their energy they will be sucked into the black holes and only the black holes will remain in the whole universe. Then these black holes, due to their gravity or vortexes they create in space medium due to their movement and spin, will engage in a tug of war with each other over the space medium(I believe space is filled with a superfluid medium,like air or water that permeates throughout the entire universe and which creates everything) and will get attracted towards each other. Eventually every black hole(or most) will merge into each other to make the ultimate black hole that will contain all the visible matter of our universe today. And also due to each merger or collision, the temperature or the rate of oscillations and collisions between the particles trapped in this black hole will increase so much that the space medium can no longer compress inside this black hole. And since the particles inside the black hole can no longer compress further but due to its vortex or gravity the surrounding space medium is getting attracted towards it and exerting enormous pressure on it from all sides, it will explode in a big bang. After the big bang this super massive black hole will break into smaller black holes(scientists have discovered that early universe was full of black holes, giving some credibility to my theory) and these black holes will make galaxies with the new matter that will be created by this new big bang(I will explain in another thread how visible matter is created). And the cycle will continue again.

And you guys will be surprised to know where I discovered all this. In the old religious books of Hindu religion. Yes you read it right. Old Hindu religious texts claim that Universe is cyclic, it starts with a chaos(big bang) and ends with chaos(black holes eating everything). Amazing isn't it. Thousands of years old books talk about the origin and end of our universe.

Anyways if you liked this theory then feel free to check out my ebook on Amazon for scientific and logical theories about God, soul, ghosts, afterlife and the universe. If mods allow it and if anyone is interested I can post the link to my ebook too. It's free on Amazon right now.

Also this is just the start, if you guys are interested, I can post my other theories and research about space, energy, matter, gravity, black holes, speed of light, UFOs etc. Feel free to ask any clarifications about this topic in comments.
 
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i go to Hindu temples occasionally they are beautiful and i find the religion fascinating. i believe the origin myth includes a milky sea of undifferentiated matter from which the universe is created. this i find somewhat similar to the Christian view of Genesis, with this infinite mass of raw being dividing into smaller and smaller individualized subjects. physics says the Big Bang broke down elements as well, things like gravity and electro magnetical charges coming into existence after the initializing even. base elements breaking down into the heavier ones. ephemera taking form in the physical. the fall of the Spirit into Matter. this is how the universe functions as a mechanical engine, all the stars burning basic elements of helium and hydrogen into more complex structures like carbon and oxygen (the things that give us life). all living things burn within them, we generate heat, which we are attracted to, as beings. we are one with the cosmos, Sagan would say here.

the main question is, what cause? seemingly there is nothingness and then everything comes from that. but how can something come from nothing? it is puzzling. science has not yet piereced the veil, they are at the baby level of just now leaving our solar system, we can't even begin to pretend we can comprehend the vastness of the cosmos. well we can pretend, and do all the time, and theoretical science is thus born.

theoretical science is the intellectual backing behind science fiction/fantasy, which is an important part of pop culture and pop science. nobody has successfully measured what is on the other side of a black hole (or really even 100% confirmed it's existence) so it is kind of remote to even use the term to describe the Creation for a human living on Earth in 2020. tbh i find religious creation myths and classical traditions to be almost as relatable -- quite possibly even moreso. the Egyptians believed the world rose out of a watery swamp of existence. the God of the Pentateuch was chilling with his face upon the waters BEFORE creation. every culture has a way it tried to grasp this unknowable secret. it is locked off to us. the ultimate mystery. even science is stumped.

yet there are many ways to ponder the question...
 
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#Phonepunk# said:
i go to Hindu temples occasionally they are beautiful and i find the religion fascinating. i believe the origin myth includes a milky sea of undifferentiated matter from which the universe is created. this i find somewhat similar to the Christian view of Genesis, with this infinite mass of raw being dividing into smaller and smaller individualized subjects. physics says the Big Bang broke down elements as well, things like gravity and electro magnetical charges coming into existence after the initializing even. base elements breaking down into the heavier ones. ephemera taking form in the physical. the fall of the Spirit into Matter. this is how the universe functions as a mechanical engine, all the stars burning basic elements of helium and hydrogen into more complex structures like carbon and oxygen (the things that give us life).

the main question is, what cause? seemingly there is nothingness and then everything comes from that. but how can something come from nothing? it is puzzling. science has not yet piereced the veil, they are at the baby level of just now leaving our solar system, we can't even begin to pretend we can comprehend the vastness of the cosmos. well we can pretend, and do all the time, and theoretical science is thus born.

theoretical science is the intellectual backing behind science fiction/fantasy, which is an important part of pop culture and pop science. nobody has successfully measured what is on the other side of a black hole (or really even 100% confirmed it's existence) so it is kind of remote to even use the term to describe the Creation. tbh i find religious creation myths and classical traditions to be almost as relatable -- quite possibly even moreso. the Egyptians believed the world rose out of a watery swamp of existence. the God of the Pentateuch was chilling with his face upon the waters BEFORE creation. every culture has a way it tried to grasp this unknowable secret. it is locked off to us. the ultimate mystery. even science is stumped.

yet there are many ways to ponder the question...
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Most ancient civilizations claim that all existence came from water or a water like medium. It's called Cosmic ocean in Hindu religion, Bible called it waters above and like you said Egyptians called it a watery swamp. There is a reason for that.
 
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Through a not understood process an advanced society came about, but they had difficulty with crime and various social problems despite all research and measurement available showing it was the wealthiest and most equitable society in existence. They needed a solution.


What was eventually decided on was that you needed people to exist in a life of uncertainty in a world that was clearly unfair to see how they would act, and to run them through multiple lifetimes of simulations to gain experience that will be synced up when you are removed from the simulation you are currently in.


If after multiple simulations you are shown to live lives where you harm society more than you help it, you will be unplugged from your life support system and be allowed to die. If you appear to be a good candidate for the advanced society you are then allowed to enter the real world after an orientation course. If simulation theory is correct I think that is what is actually going on.
 
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Taxexemption said:
Through a not understood process an advanced society came about, but they had difficulty with crime and various social problems despite all research and measurement available showing it was the wealthiest and most equitable society in existence. They needed a solution.


What was eventually decided on was that you needed people to exist in a life of uncertainty in a world that was clearly unfair to see how they would act, and to possibly to run them through multiple lifetimes of simulations to gain experience that will be synced up when you are removed from the simulation you are currently in.


If after multiple simulations you are shown to live lives where you harm society more than you help it, you will be unplugged from your life support system and be allowed to die. If you appear to be a good candidate for the advanced society you are then allowed to enter the real world after an orientation course. If simulation theory is correct I think that is what is actually going on.
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While I agree with you on some points, I don't think we live in a simulation. Our world is too free and too much detailed to be a simulation. And also nature doesn't care about morality(Survival of the fittest, whatever it take). But as a civilization gets more and more advanced and intelligent, they develop moral values. We will become such a highly moral and intelligent species in due time. But something happened in our past that gave us so much knowledge and intelligence but failed to give us the wisdom that comes after thousands or millions of years of natural evolution.
 
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But where did the first material for the first universe come from?
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Now you are asking the real and ultimate question. I have a theory about this too but it's not complete yet. I'll share my thoughts about it as soon as I am satisfied with it. Right now I can only tell you how our current universe was created.
 
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Greedings said:
Good job we have you to interpret the work of scientists.
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I am not trying to disrespect Scientists in any way, my theory is also based on an established theory called Superfluid vacuum theory. But it's not complete yet, so I am just trying to complete it by filling in the blanks.

I am very grateful about the sacrifices that our scientists and researchers make to make our world better. I am just trying to help by providing my point of view.
 
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Now let's talk about space, energy and matter.

What is Space?

I think Space is a superfluid medium that permeates throughout the entire universe and is responsible for the creation of every matter that we now see and also the waves being formed in this medium are called energy. There is also an existing theory that claims that space is a superfluid medium. And I think it’s absolutely right, but it’s still not complete and so I am going to present my own version of this.
I think that there are two possibilities related to this universal space medium. Either it is made up of fundamental particles that are round and similar to each other in every way and have a force of attraction amongst each other. Or this medium is made up of two different fundamental particles – one big in size and the other small, that are both round in shape and have a force of attraction or repulsion between them. And the big particles are suspended in the sea of the small particles. Personally I think that it is made up of similar fundamental particles that have a force of attraction between each other, but there is some scientific evidence that points towards the existence of two different fundamental space particles that can have a force of attraction or repulsion amongst each other. Scientists believe that there are two types of energy fields that permeates throughout the entire universe. Electromagnetic field is responsible for electromagnetic energy and Higgs Field is responsible for giving particles their mass. Maybe these fields are just made up of these two particles, that form the space medium. And I also believe that these particles have lots of gap between them and so due to this attraction or repulsion and also gap between these particles, it is possible to stretch and compress this medium much more than any other medium like for example water.

Also when waves are formed in this medium they can travel a lot farther and faster, as this is a very superfluid medium and therefore has very little resistance of its own, as I think these particles have a very weak force of attraction or repulsion and there is gap between them. But since these fundamental particles have mass and also force of attraction or repulsion between them, therefore there is a limit to how much this medium can be stretched or compressed. And I believe that these properties of these particles and this medium are responsible for everything that we see or observe in our universe.

What is light or energy or electromagnetic energy or electromagnetic radiation?

As you can see for yourself light, heat, radiation, electromagnetic energy etc. are the same thing. Crazy isn’t it. The light coming from the sun is the same electromagnetic energy or radiation that is coming from a bulb or fire or even a radio signal that is coming from a radio tower. I think this is because all these different forms of the same energy are just waves in the superfluid medium that permeates throughout the entire universe. And these waves are formed due to the movement or collisions of particles in the space medium. So if anything moves or collides with another in this medium, waves are formed, which are known as energy.
These waves behaves just like the waves of water or air. So just like strong waves of water or air, the strong waves of space medium can also cause a lot of destruction, just like energy coming out of a nuclear bomb. So in a way these waves or energy are weaker or stronger based on the sources that are creating them. So energy from a light bulb is not harmful but energy coming out of a nuclear bomb is. I think this is because space medium can be compressed and when the waves are being formed from such a highly compressed space medium like the core of a star or planet, these waves become shorter and more powerful. We will talk about this later.

What is matter and how is it made?

As we have discussed earlier that I think that energy is just waves travelling in the superfluid space medium. But when two or more of these powerful waves collide with each other, they create standing waves in this medium. This is called matter. And due to the collision between the waves, these newly formed particles start spinning, in the direction of the most powerful wave, creating a vortex in the superfluid space medium. Due to this vortex a lot of particles of the medium are sucked closer to this particle, making it dense. This is called mass of the particles. These particles are called quarks, electrons, positrons etc.
And before someone says that you can’t create matter from energy. Scientists have created matter using light, giving some credibility to my theory. So I believe that every matter you see in our universe was formed when very powerful waves were formed in the space medium by the Big bang explosion that happened in a supermassive black hole and these waves interacted with the vortex force that was still attracting the space medium towards this black hole and matter was created. So in a way the energy of these powerful waves got trapped in these matter particles known as quarks and electrons. And so this is why it is very difficult to separate the quarks and also so much energy is released when we try to convert matter into energy. And also maybe this is the reason why quarks come in pairs as they are formed by different waves of space medium; and also scientists now believe that maybe even electron is not a fundamental particle and is made up of small particles, just like the pairs of quarks. Also due to the spinning and the resulting vortex in the space medium, everything that is close to this spinning particles starts to flow towards this vortex and a powerful attraction force is created which is called strong nuclear force. This is the reason why quarks and protons and neutrons are so strongly linked to each other.
 
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Also let's talk about the evidence that shows that space is a superfluid medium

A lot of Scientists currently don’t believe that space is a superfluid medium but their own observations and experiments show otherwise. Here are some experiments, observations and facts that show that maybe space is indeed a superfluid medium.

Wave particle duality of all matter and energy

All scientists believe that every form of matter and energy show wave particle duality, meaning that they behave as a wave as well as a particle. I believe this is a clear indication that maybe they show this duality because they are a part of the space medium. Since this medium is made up of fundamental particles, the matter which is standing wave of this medium and the energy which is traveling wave of this medium, show wave particle duality. Think of it like air and water. Air and water are both mediums that are made up of particles but waves are also being formed in them. So space is also just like these two mediums.

Conversion of matter into energy and vice versa

We know that matter can be converted into energy and we also know that energy can also be converted into matter. So is it wrong to assume that maybe it is possible because they are part of something which we have not discovered yet. That is the space medium. Matter which is a standing wave of this superfluid medium can be converted into energy because it is a travelling wave of this medium and vice versa.

The double slit experiment

The double slit experiment also proves the existence of a medium as even a single matter particle causes wave interference pattern when travelling through a double slit. I think that this happens because whenever anything moves in the superfluid space medium, waves are formed. Due to this, the waves made by the matter particle while moving through the space medium, moves through the other slit of the double slit and interferes with the particle and the waves being formed by them to make the pattern. Also when this particle is observed this pattern is destroyed because by observation we introduce more waves in the experiment that destroy the neat interference between the waves of a single particle.

Dark matter and dark energy

Scientists believe that alongside visible matter, there is also a lot of matter that we don’t see and observe. They call it Dark matter. Also alongside electromagnetic energy, there is a type of energy called dark energy which is responsible for the expansion of the universe, that we currently can’t observe or interact with. I believe these two unknowns are proof of the existence of the superfluid space medium. Dark matter is the medium itself, currently undetected. And dark energy are the waves being formed in this medium, some of which were formed in this medium during the big bang that are still pushing everything away from each other. Also since space medium is currently undetected, all the waves being formed in this medium that are also undetected currently, are considered as dark energy.

Electromagnetic field and Higgs field

Scientist currently believe that there are two fields that permeates throughout the whole universe. These are called electromagnetic field and Higgs field. Higgs field gives mass to the particles and the electromagnetic field is responsible for energy. I believe that if you replace Higgs field with big space medium particles and electromagnetic field with small space medium particles and just accept that these two fundamental particles make the space medium that permeates throughout the entire universe, then it solves all the problems and issues with our current model of Physics.

Solar sail

Just like wind sails that use wind to move a boat, scientists believe that we can make a solar sail that can use sunlight to move a small spaceship. So just like waves of air and water that can push things, we have a very clear example of sunlight, which I believe is a wave of the space medium, pushing objects.

Nothing can’t create something

The existence of the universe itself is the biggest proof that such a medium exists as nothing can’t create something. As scientists have clearly found that even empty space is full of energy. This energy is not coming from nothing but are just waves being formed and travelling in the superfluid space medium.

I think all these facts, observations and experiments prove that space is indeed a medium.
 
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GaviotaGrande said:
Came to ask the same question. I don't think this one in answerable.
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Probably not. Which is a shame because I think it is pretty much the most important answer there is. But then again, it is like the question about the borders of the space and what lies beyond that: answers would probably not give any answers as they would in any case be beyond humans comprehension. Even the theory about us and our whole universe being an atom or something in a vastly bigger universe - like we are the tip of a pin in another universe - leads to the same question: where did that universe come from.

It's headache stuff.
 
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Please feel free to ask or clarify anything related to topics that I have posted here. The purpose why I worked so hard to find the scientific theory of everything was to prove that magic or miracles do not exist. I wanted to find the fundamental rules of the universe so that I can disprove a lot of superstitions and fake things related to our Gods and Universe.

And I also want that everyone knows about these rules and how everything works in the universe, so that no one can manipulate anyone in the name of God or religion.
 
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SUPERGGK said:
...was to prove that magic or miracles do not exist.
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Our science today was magic 300 hundred years ago. Even our entertainment gadgets would have gotten us burned back then.

I'm an agnostic through and through but thinking about the universe and what lies beyond it makes me want to believe in supernatural. Because if there is something infinite and neverending like space seems to be, then all the bets are off and there's no limits to what else is possible.
 
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Nico_D said:
Our science today was magic 300 hundred years ago. Even our entertainment gadgets would have gotten us burned back then.

I'm an agnostic through and through but thinking about the universe and what lies beyond it makes me want to believe in supernatural. Because if there is something infinite and neverending like space seems to be, then all the bets are off and there's no limits to what else is possible.
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I can't speak beyond our current universe, but there are some fundamental rules of our universe that simply can't be broken. You need energy to do something and you can't control or use energy without a biological or mechanical part or organ or machine. There is a reason why magicians used magic wands to do magic; and even Gods used divine objects to give boons or perform miracles.

So were they really divine or magical objects or something else entirely because people of that time had limited knowledge of science and technology, just like you said.
 
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I like how reality is a paradox, it doesn't make sense for reality or God to haves always existed, everything has a starting point, right? And yet it doesn't make sense for reality or God to have not always existed either, certainly there always has to be something than nothing, right? But how can something just be without a starting point? But could there ever have been nothing and so on and so forth.

I mean... what?
 
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thats what ive always thought.

universe is sucked into nothingness, then explodes, then gravity pulls everything back in, then explodes again, rinse repeat, yaaaaaawwwwwwn... just do that mass effect thing, it was way more exciting tbh
 
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Red Crayon Aristocrat said:
I like how reality is a paradox, it doesn't make sense for reality or God to haves always existed, everything has a starting point, right? And yet it doesn't make sense for reality or God to have not always existed either, certainly there always has to be something than nothing, right? But how can something just be without a starting point? But could there ever have been nothing and so on and so forth.

I mean... what?
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Yeah, I have created and discarded so many theories about it but still I have not found a sufficient answer. The only answer that I can give right now for this is that, according to Hindu cosmology, there is no absolute start to time, as it is considered infinite and cyclic. Similarly, the space and universe has neither start nor end, rather it is cyclical. The current universe is just the start of a present cycle preceded by an infinite number of universes and to be followed by another infinite number of universes.
 
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Kev Kev said:
thats what ive always thought.

universe is sucked into nothingness, then explodes, then gravity pulls everything back in, then explodes again, rinse repeat, yaaaaaawwwwwwn... just do that mass effect thing, it was way more exciting tbh
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To be honest, I like the fact that it's simple and predictable, like a loop, otherwise we may not have even existed.

Also we are free to create whatever exciting experience we want in it. It's full of so many amazing things, phenomenons and events to get inspiration from.

On another note, God I miss mass effect. I wish EA would atleast remaster the trilogy already.
 
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Red Crayon Aristocrat said:
I like how reality is a paradox, it doesn't make sense for reality or God to haves always existed, everything has a starting point, right? And yet it doesn't make sense for reality or God to have not always existed either, certainly there always has to be something than nothing, right? But how can something just be without a starting point? But could there ever have been nothing and so on and so forth.

I mean... what?
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Still doesnt explain how space, time and matter came to be. Something out of nothing? Did those exist all along and there is no beggining? Neither makes logical sense.
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Hmmm, it's a paradox that I am working so hard to solve. But I am still satisfied with my current progress. I have found a lot of answers that may be true. I know that there are still more questions that remain unanswered but I am sure that we will know everything in due time.
 
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Here's my views and thoughts about Gravity

When lots of matter is densely packed in a spinning object, I think that a big vortex is formed in the superfluid space medium which attracts the medium towards it, just like a water or air vortex. But since water can’t be compressed but space medium can be, so this medium is compressed around the spinning object and this is called Gravity. When two such objects come in close vicinity of each other, they both attract the medium towards each other; but since there is a limit to how much this space or cosmic medium can be stretched, it results in them getting attracted towards each other due to a tug of war between them over the space medium and they even start circling each other. This is the reason why so many planets and objects are orbiting the sun as they are stuck in a tug of war with the sun over the space medium.

Also if you stand and move on a planet that has attracted space medium towards it and therefore has compressed space medium around it, then you will also engage in a tug of war over this medium with the planet and therefore would feel a resistance towards movement. This is because you are also attracting this medium towards yourself and also moving in a dense space medium. And if you move away from the planet you will also engage in a tug of war with the planet over this medium and therefore will get attracted towards it. This is why gravity attracts. As the planet has the densest part at its core, the space medium is also densest at its core, and so the vortex is attracting the space medium towards the center, which is the reason behind the force of gravity attracting everything towards the center.
Since we all have matter particles inside us, we are all engaged in a tug of war with everything else as we all attract the space medium towards ourselves. But only the densest objects that have the greatest mass can attract everything towards them. And this is reason why each galaxy has a supermassive black hole in it’s center, as these are the densest objects in the universe and the vortex being formed by these black holes in the space medium, is capable of spinning the entire galaxy with them.
 
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In my book you will find my views and thoughts about God, soul, afterlife, heaven, hell and the universe, in the same order as they are written. So if you want to go straight to my theory about universe that contains topics like space, matter, energy, charge, gravity, time, light etc., then you can go straight to later portions of the book, to find out about the particular topic you want to read about.
 
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Every observable thing in the universe is finite and subject to entropy. Multiverse theory and successive Big Bangs / Crunches tried to modernize the idea but science is now headed in a different direction. Instead of a big crunch, scientists believe that matter will continue accelerating apart from other matter for many trillions of years until the skies go dark from lack of stars and the far distance of stars. Entire galaxies will dim and the remaining black holes will gradually shrink and decay over trillions of years. After that we'll have a few million/billion years of neutron stars, quark stars, and black-hole cores to keep the sky lit for a bit longer.

Then it is darkness.

The idea of a cycle is ancient, as the OP points out. Maximus the Confessor argued that if there was a God or higher power, it would be incredibly cruel to force mortal sentience to continue through this loop over and over, especially if there was punishment promised to those who disobey the divine Law.

A modern example of this terrifying thought experiment is Roko's Basilisk. A multiuniversal cycle is only comforting to those who also believe there is a universal benevolence / power that will keep things on the rails. What if the next "cycle" inflicts nonstop agony and torture on you?

Also, it's worth noting that Madhvacharya raised significant issues with the monistic (all is one) Hindu interpretations of scripture and founded the Dvaita school. On the other side of the world, Thomas Aquinas was also engaged in dialectic with the church on the distinct, dual nature of the universe, the separation from matter and spiritual substance. These dialogues (arguably) kicked off the scientific revolution as well, since scholars and clergymen pursued exactly where that line of distinction existed. Alchemy, initially, was the study of the substance of deification. Comically, we have reduced this to "turning lead to gold" but the actual practice was trying to suss out how you took a lower form of matter and "elevated" it to a higher, divine state.

I view our reality as a top that was spun by a higher intellligence. There's no in-built "cycle" that will give us repeated existences / realities.

This is it.
 
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Ying and Yang explains everything imo

The Universe always is and always will be, it if infinite but exists in two states; ying and yang or Matter/Anti-matter. Every X amount of 'years' the universes swap states 'temporarily' (A few trillion years, which in the scale of infinity is relatively nothing). Every now and then a black-hole is created, which at its' centre is an infinitesimally small point which leaks 'matter' through to the 'anti-matter' universe.

Everything exists so that nothing can exist.

Nothing existed 'before' the universe so that the universe could exist.
 
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DunDunDunpachi said:
Every observable thing in the universe is finite and subject to entropy. Multiverse theory and successive Big Bangs / Crunches tried to modernize the idea but science is now headed in a different direction. Instead of a big crunch, scientists believe that matter will continue accelerating apart from other matter for many trillions of years until the skies go dark from lack of stars and the far distance of stars. Entire galaxies will dim and the remaining black holes will gradually shrink and decay over trillions of years. After that we'll have a few million/billion years of neutron stars, quark stars, and black-hole cores to keep the sky lit for a bit longer.

Then it is darkness.

The idea of a cycle is ancient, as the OP points out. Maximus the Confessor argued that if there was a God or higher power, it would be incredibly cruel to force mortal sentience to continue through this loop over and over, especially if there was punishment promised to those who disobey the divine Law.

A modern example of this terrifying thought experiment is Roko's Basilisk. A multiuniversal cycle is only comforting to those who also believe there is a universal benevolence / power that will keep things on the rails. What if the next "cycle" inflicts nonstop agony and torture on you?

Also, it's worth noting that Madhvacharya raised significant issues with the monistic (all is one) Hindu interpretations of scripture and founded the Dvaita school. On the other side of the world, Thomas Aquinas was also engaged in dialectic with the church on the distinct, dual nature of the universe, the separation from matter and spiritual substance. These dialogues (arguably) kicked off the scientific revolution as well, since scholars and clergymen pursued exactly where that line of distinction existed. Alchemy, initially, was the study of the substance of deification. Comically, we have reduced this to "turning lead to gold" but the actual practice was trying to suss out how you took a lower form of matter and "elevated" it to a higher, divine state.

I view our reality as a top that was spun by a higher intellligence. There's no in-built "cycle" that will give us repeated existences / realities.

This is it.
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Fascinating stuff but I believe that black holes don't decay. Energy can neither be created nor be destroyed. So I believe that all visible matter will be consumed by the black holes and then they will combine to make the ultimate black hole, which will then explode in a big bang to create visible matter and smaller black holes that would create galaxies. So in a way no energy or information ever gets destroyed, it just changes forms.

And since Scientists too have found that early universe was full of black holes, I think that this gives credibility to this theory.
 
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Boswollocks said:
Ying and Yang explains everything imo

The Universe always is and always will be, it if infinite but exists in two states; ying and yang or Matter/Anti-matter. Every X amount of 'years' the universes swap states 'temporarily' (A few trillion years, which in the scale of infinity is relatively nothing). Every now and then a black-hole is created, which at its' centre is an infinitesimally small point which leaks 'matter' through to the 'anti-matter' universe.

Everything exists so that nothing can exist.

Nothing existed 'before' the universe so that the universe could exist.
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Amazing theory but I don't think that black holes work as wormholes that transport energy or matter from one place to another. They just collect or trap energy and matter, in a very dense manner. Also I don't think that black holes are infinitesimally small in size, as if that was the case then we would have found that the size of all back holes would have been similar. But since we have found that black holes too come in all sizes, some much much bigger than others, so I feel that they are not infinitesimally small but have a proper size and mass.
 
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Amazing theory but I don't think that black holes work as wormholes that transport energy or matter from one place to another. They just collect or trap energy and matter, in a very dense manner. Also I don't think that black holes are infinitesimally small in size, as if that was the case then we would have found that the size of all back holes would have been similar. But since we have found that black holes too come in all sizes, some much much bigger than others, so I feel that they are not infinitesimally small but have a proper size and mass.
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Sorry, i skipped a bit of explanation. The singularity point at the very centre of the black hole is theorised to be super super small. I just chucked in a whacko theory, backed up by 0 science that it must go somewhere. I only believe that because when you compress an atom/molecule, doesn't it create nuclear fusion and kick out a lot of energy? If a black whole swallows a solar system, how does all of that energy not escape from the black hole?

I understand the gravitational pull of a black hole is so great that it warps time, space and light, which i assume would lead to cause/effect been turned on its' head. But, as Electromagnetism is a lot stronger than the pull of gravity, wouldn't we see EMP-ish distortions around the black hole?

I don't see it as a wormhole, as such, more of a tear/pinprick a dam, holding back the torrential river of the universe
 
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