BlueXImpulse
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Could they reveal the supposed PS5 specs’ bump at the Sep 16 event too ?
Don't count on a spec bump, you will set yourself up for disappointment.
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Don't count on a spec bump, you will set yourself up for disappointment.
zaitsu
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What spec bump ? What do you want to bump ?Could they reveal the supposed PS5 specs’ bump at the Sep 16 event too ?
Why would PS5 need any bump ?
It perfectly capable to handle best looking exclusive games right now.
Multiplatforms? Beside rockstar they would just look funny in side by side compare to them.
No, it's true. The PS5 is getting bumped to 12.1 TF just to piss off MS.
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J_Gamer.exe
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I want to see the boot speed but if not definitely the UI into game and show a couple of titles loading in 2 seconds or less. 2 should be the max really it depends if said games use oodle texture or other ways in which it loads in a second. Just throw us a few good examples. A few quick BC games examples too.
Then games games games and maybe end with a brief system fly through revealing a few more features and surprises that were rumoured and then end with price.
I think this show is going to put to bed a few more doubts, just like previously, where people thought PS5 cant do this or that and ends up doing 4k60 just like XSX.
A lot of L's have been taken already by those doubters from the Xbox side, another will be if some features turn our correct and for eg Horizon forbidden west was indeed gameplay in some parts.
Cant wait.
Then games games games and maybe end with a brief system fly through revealing a few more features and surprises that were rumoured and then end with price.
I think this show is going to put to bed a few more doubts, just like previously, where people thought PS5 cant do this or that and ends up doing 4k60 just like XSX.
A lot of L's have been taken already by those doubters from the Xbox side, another will be if some features turn our correct and for eg Horizon forbidden west was indeed gameplay in some parts.
Cant wait.
harry mason 1989
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lol
Nickolaidas
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Bo_Hazem
YOU MAGNIFICENT SONUVABITCH!!I COULD KISS YOU RIGHT NOW!!!!
I was searching websites for a 4K TV with optical output supporting 5.1 surround because I was tired with my TV's fake surround/actually 2.0 stereo system ... and I stumbled upon a website which had detailed descriptions of TVs which support 5.1 surround sound via their optical port ...
AND MY TV WAS NOTED TO HAVE ONE!!
So I get back on my TV's settings as well as PS4 Pro's settings, fiddling with the options, and I FINALLY MANAGED TO ACTIVATE 5.1 SURROUND VIA HDMI ARC JUST LIKE YOU SAID (an option which was greyed out last time I fiddled with the options)!!
I can now experience both a PS5 as well as a Series X with true surround sound via my TV! No reason to buy expensive soundbars, defective HDMI splitters which break down after a couple of weeks, or new AV/Receivers!!
I AM TRULY NEXT GEN READY WITH 4K/60Hz (yeah, no 120 Hz) AND 5.1 SURROUND SOUND - LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Agnostic2020
Member
Imo GOW reveal is next year
Bro it's gonna be 12.1 TF and $498.
It will automatically fully convert all PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games to PS5 level graphics.
They're bringing back Ken K to announce it.
The legends are coming.
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There was talk of the PS5 getting a minor specs bump after the Road to PS5 event. Some people including myself were left disappointed after it was revealed that the PS5 would top out at 10 TFLOPS compared to XSX’s 12 TF.
I was hoping for an increase in CU count from 36 to 40, personally.
Gediminas
Banned
garbage value for deluxe and ascended edition.Godfall will be $59.99 USD for the Standard Edition, $79.99 for the Deluxe Edition and $89.99 for the Ascend Edition and, at least for now, there is one expansion confirmed to come at al later date.
PlayStation 5 Console-Exclusive Godfall Reveals $90 Ascended Edition, Borderlands Crossover DLC
While Godfall won't feature any microtransactions, players can pre-order the $90 Ascended Edition for Zer0's Sword and other exclusive items.wccftech.com
Boy is there gonna be egg on your face.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I trust you, and if I don't like it, it's not a big deal anyway. I had it in my mind before release, and for some reason I always forget about it. Thanks for the feedback.
zaitsu
Banned
Whole game is probably garbage
BlueXImpulse
Banned
A spec bump probably isn't even possible due to the testing that they have already done to ensure that the current cooling system is capable of dissipating the right amount of heat. Then when you factor in that Cerny already talked about how above 2.23GHz chip logic began to fail and how they found the right thermal density for CPU and GPU clocks I don't see how the APU can see any more improvement.
RAM might just be the only thing they can bump but even that is doubtful because DRAM prices are extremely high right now. The specs are locked and we should be grateful with what we have. 10.23TF GPU, 3.5GHz CPU, 448GB/s across 16GB GDDR6. This is a huge base spec for first party developers to target and is ample for 4K gaming.
Gediminas
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we don't know that. but prices are garbage for sure.
danielJackson
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Do you play games or stare at spec sheets & compare them?
More power doesnt always equal more performance.
And anyway next gen games probably look best on PS5 as they have The most talented devs + no need to drag xses+pc with them
Only people that will be dissapointed are those that believe that 10 vs 12 is as big as one vs ps4 visuals.
Im 100% sure that Lord Master Cernys masterpiece of engineering vision is epic and more than just sum of the specs
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
Lol, I know, but the good part is that we have a AAA next gen game with a $60 USD price point so that's a good sign, I think.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I COULD KISS YOU RIGHT NOW!!!!
I was searching websites for a 4K TV with optical output supporting 5.1 surround because I was tired with my TV's fake surround/actually 2.0 stereo system ... and I stumbled upon a website which had detailed descriptions of TVs which support 5.1 surround sound via their optical port ...
AND MY TV WAS NOTED TO HAVE ONE!!
So I get back on my TV's settings as well as PS4 Pro's settings, fiddling with the options, and I FINALLY MANAGED TO ACTIVATE 5.1 SURROUND VIA HDMI ARC JUST LIKE YOU SAID (an option which was greyed out last time I fiddled with the options)!!
I can now experience both a PS5 as well as a Series X with true surround sound via my TV! No reason to buy expensive soundbars, defective HDMI splitters which break down after a couple of weeks, or new AV/Receivers!!
I AM TRULY NEXT GEN READY WITH 4K/60Hz (yeah, no 120 Hz) AND 5.1 SURROUND SOUND - LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Glad you figured it out. Honestly, those things are complicated for no reason. Like my Sony TV you need to go to the menu and find where you should activate full color gamut for both HDR and overall better image. Why the fuck it's not automated or activated by default boggles me.
But you'll always get the answer if you ask around, as it wasn't clear to me that it was a settings problem. If you have the platinum headset you might want to revisit Uncharted 4 and other high quality games for simulated 3D Audio.
TLZ
Banned
What spec bumpCould they reveal the supposed PS5 specs’ bump at the Sep 16 event too ?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Let's hope they have a 4K@60fps version of it when it's all done. I watched the 4K version of xbox last time and it was clean, but with shit content.
yewles1
Member
Stop confusing Dragon Ball with Fish Egg.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Killer Sakoman
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Assuming there is a difference and assuming there are interesting multiplats anymore
. I don't care if live services play at higher resolution on xbox? I don't play them.Also, as per last few years, most interesting 3rd party games came exclusively on playstation anyway.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
What spec bump
How could there possibly be a spec bump when a) devs have been working with dev kits for many months, and a spec bump would alter game parameters, and b) the console has been in production for months. These things don’t just get thrown together overnight. The specs for this machine have been locked for a long time... certainly way before Cerny’s Riad To Ps5 presentation.
Killer Sakoman
Member
Not good to bump the specs this late and no need for it.
I don't understand these things very well but cannot they feed the system with more power and allow for more heat if the sillicon yield is good. It won't bump specs but allows for maintaining max frequencies at high loads.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
multi-quote answers incoming
c'mon
if at least you guys could produce in the same quality of those videos, then it might actually be fun
I don't want to say that you are a victim of your hate here..
Truth always has a straight face. You should try it sometime.How you managed to keep a straight face after typing that, I'll never know
Show me the list of nextgen enhanced games that PSNow provides you day1
c'mon
Really rich coming from you, and in fact very-very rich critique from all the people that in this thread, who for more than 1000 pages keep producing, circulating and laugh with stupid xbox craig memes.Extremely childish fanboy material, wouldn't be surprised if was done by Aaron himself. And not least surprised by your enjoyment over itreally reflects your maturity level
if at least you guys could produce in the same quality of those videos, then it might actually be fun
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FunkMiller
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This really shouldn’t need saying, but we’re a bunch of video games fans on a forum. Aaron Greenberg is the head of XBox marketing, and should behave like it.
You get annoyed when Sony fans gang up on XBox? It’s this cretin and his ilk that cause it. No one at Sony is that childish.
XBox’s biggest problem for years now is that so many of the senior spokespeople have been dudebro man babies, who have done more to stoke the fires of the console war than anyone.
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Oddspeak
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Alright, I'm just gonna throw my predictions for the showcase out there and see what sticks. I got 5 out of 6 predictions right for the June show, so maybe my luck will continue.
- Price. $449-499 for the standard edition, $399-449 for the digital edition
- Launch Date. November 17 or 20, pre-orders open after show
- Features. UI will be revealed, but won't be in-depth. Backwards compatibility shown off via sizzle reel of games Sony personally tested
- New/More Gameplay. Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Horizon: Fobidden West, Demon's Souls, Returnal, Destruction All-Stars, Sackboy: A Big Adventure
- The Big Bombs. Silent Hill, Final Fantasy XVI, Sony Japan's "RaySpace" Project, Sony Santa Monica's next game
Mr. PlayStation
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Oh I do, in his latest stream/podcast thing they were discussing about series V, and how series S could hold back games, it was a laugh riot for 3 straight hours or so
Ignore this sceptic.
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Get the Series X then?
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
Aaron Greenberg didn't make this video. He just laughed with it and was genuine enough not to hide it.
Now tell me, how many hours of laughter -hidden behind your eyes- do you think Shu and blondie had before they managed to film these 20seconds without bursting to laughs?
And mind you, this is an official SONY production
I find your double standards amazing
Mr. PlayStation
Member
You know why right, till yesterday people have been in the middle of desert unable to quench our thirst and we keep running into a mirage (Fake insiders). Yesterday we finally found out an oasis
, hurry up Wednesday!
zaitsu
Banned
hype speach ; 3 min
price and date ; 1 min
features ; 5 min
gameplays : around 5 minutes each : 5 games - 25 min
teasers : around 1-2 minutes each - 4 games - 8 min
Whole : around 40 minutes of pure joy
Mr. PlayStation
Member
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Do you actually think a video made to hammer home how consumer friendly the PS4 was, is the same as a senior Xbox official actively and repeatedly tweeting memes and videos that stoke the console wars?
You actually think these two things are comparable? One video about promoting the positive aspects of a console, and the other about denigrating the competition?
You’re so far down the rabbit hole, it’s pitch black.
xHunter
Member
Wouldnt put both videos in the same category tbh. The used game video can be seen as a jab at xbox policy at the time, but there was also a social media campaign launched by various gaming communities for sony to not implement any new restrictions. This was more than likely adressed to them. Look up #PS4NoDRM if you cant (or dont want to) remember
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sircaw
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Your not alone. lets begin the shoal.
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TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
I asked you how many hours do you think these sony officials were laughing behind the camera from conception to production of this troll video of theirs.
Can you estimate?
Being frank is not bad, that video greenberg commented on was funny. Deal with it
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StarskySilverz
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MasterCornholio
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I remember there was alot of fear that Sony would do the same. Basically the argument that Microsoft wouldn't do something like that if the competition wasn't doing the same.
I can certainly see it as a jab at the competition but then again it was something they needed to clear up. They killed two birds with one stone by making that video.
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sircaw
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We dont know if there is any situation, it is simply even though both consoles are RDNA2 they are so very different they are not comparable in TF until we compare how things run.
CU do the shader work, and are given data by memory >>>> L2 cache >>>>>>>> L1 cache >>>>>>>>>> L0 Cache and you can think of each >>> as bandwidth, and the size of the cache and amount of compression is a factor in pumping data to the CUs.
Each step getting closer to the CU gets faster and shorter in distance and clock cycles. You cna see this in the RDNA1 white paper below, look at the bandwidths of the caches, RDNA1 is so much faster than GCN and even with RDNA1 having much less TF it smokes GCN.
How do Ps5 and XSX compare, well they both use 4 arrays, each fed by L1 cache. See below, we dont know the layout of ps5, but it will be similar concept with 4 shader arrays as well so I highlighted blue for easy comparison,.
So you cannot compare TF ONLY when one part has 20 % faster clock and the data paths will be very different, its not a simple one has 18 % more TF therefore thats the difference. The extreme example is RDNA1 vs VEGA
My take is XSX will have an edge, but not as much as TF analysis says, but we have to see software running as Cache size and efficiency is just as important as theoretical TF, as you have to keep CU utilised with work. Lets see eh ?
This is the kind of shit I really hate, I was educating
geordiemp
the other night on this exact thing, linking him slides, guiding him through the information and bam he just comes on here and steals my thunder.I am sick of this kind of shit, its always happening to me.
I am done sharing my technical knowledge from now on, this forum will suffer because of a few selfish individuals.
And with the ps5 breakdown probably happening in the next month or so, you have just lost your forums Einstein because of this.
Good Job Geordie, GOOD FUCKING JOB
Bo_Hazem
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Trying to get attention
Attention whores
Yet feed FUD to your goons to muddy your competition. I have no empathy for crocodile tears.
DaGwaphics
Member
But Phil said console wars are stupid
The video is funny, you can't deny that. It isn't particularly toxic either unless you melt super easy.
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