TBiddy
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That may or may not be true, but that's not what the article is about.
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Cindy Walker(Xbox): “Having Halo at launch would have been tremendous, but we are not reliant on massive exclusive titles to drive console adoption.''
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That may or may not be true, but that's not what the article is about.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You're right. But what about launch, launch window, and the first year of games combined?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So which is it? Most people will buy the Series S or most Xbox gamers will buy the Series X for the best performing 3rd party games? You can't have it both ways!
iconmaster
Banned
Even apart from big exclusives, have we seen any games running on the new Xbox yet? It comes out pretty soon.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And that's why you were outsold 2.5-3 - 1 by both competitors. You know, those gamer's buying into other ecosystems.
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Potato Chip PRO
Member
One thing I'll say is that the those in charge in Xbox shouldn't say dumb shit like that... They need to STFU and focus on launching the Series X/S smoothly and bring more games to their platform. Everything they say always bites them in the ass.
nowifenolife
Member
WTF. Don't they give a crap about selling their consoles?
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Not nearly as much as GP. They have been very clear on this. Only fanboys are confused.
Jerm411
Member
Really? Cause I hear Phil talk a lot about wanting to be #1, competing, and selling consoles....
It just depends on what day it is whether MS supposedly doesn’t care about moving consoles or not...
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
He has been saying the opposite. Bringing games to the player no matter where they are has been his mantra for years now.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
MS changes their mind on this on a monthly basis. Be honest.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You need to sell consoles in order to sell your GP. Less consoles, less GP subs. More consoles, more potential for subs, just like Live.
No?
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TBiddy
Member
I consider the first year, give or take, to be "launch" (or launch window). I stand by my sentiment - the 'war' is rarely decided in the first year.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Good thing they made a reasonably priced next gen console that can be used for Gamepass or traditional games.
digoutyoursoul
Member
It had its troubles to say the least but man I miss the Peter Moore, J Allard days of 360, I sincerely mean that.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But who wants it if they don't have any first party bangers?
They made the disc-less SAD and could not even move them at a $150 fire sale even with GP. Why? No 1st party bangers like they had in the 360 era.
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Kuranghi
Member
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I guess we'll find out won't we. If it doesn't sell MS was wrong. I think it will sell fine.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
She failed at that btw...
diffusionx
Gold Member
So what are they reliant on, because right now they have nothing.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
They can shut up. Simple, even Jim Ryan understood active and direct PR was not his strongest suit and he shut the f* up.
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CeeJay
Member
Nintendo seem to do ok
VincentMatts
Member
I agree with that. Just shut up at this point. You have a games console, of course you rely on those games to sell it. Its fucking ridiculous.
But lets be honest here, both xsx, xss and ps5 will be sold out this holiday. So at this very moment, Halo being there or not wont matter because you wont be able to find one this holiday either way. Its next year that you start needing games.
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NullZ3r0
Banned
Yet if it was a Sony spokesperson you lap it up like milk from a titty.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
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-Arcadia-
Banned
(Psst. I’m buying a Series X. Probably before a PS5. I like the hardware and aesthetics better. Fanboy generalizations, wars, and an emotional state of mind, don’t serve anyone)
Astral Dog
Member
oooh shot at Sony, Microsoft is playing dirty with that big burn
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SmurfMustard
Member
Why is it that every thread with XBOX in the title, it's full of the same people that were never going to buy anything XBOX just because it's XBOX. One must wonder, why something you care so little about triggers you so much.
But it's okay. You are all loved. Even SlideshowBo.
But it's okay. You are all loved. Even SlideshowBo.
Humdinger
Member
I find it strange that they're leaning on the BC angle, since the XSS won't play X1X upscaled versions of BC games. In other words, their BC gaming catalog is actually worse next gen than it is this gen. Yet they're trying to sell people on next gen, based on a BC solution that's inferior to current gen (at least as far as XSS goes)?
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The Hamburglar
Banned
Sometimes saying nothing is best.
Xbox just keeps digging holes.
They’re close to a 12 tera foot hole by now.
Xbox just keeps digging holes.
They’re close to a 12 tera foot hole by now.
CeeJay
Member
I think you know the answer to your question there haha
Regardless it does still suck that there's not many really compelling launch games this coming gen (on either side). I'm still getting a Series X at launch to replace my OG Xbox One but it would have been nice to have a good few shiny new launch games to play on it.
SmurfMustard
Member
You really should stick to that.
Saaleh
Banned
Back in 2007-2010, I was a sony fanboy and I dedicated my self to make fun of xbox, yet I still bought xbox 360 just to see why people are attached to it, i played Alan wake, gears, halo3, Fable 2, bioshock, splinter cell, forza 2..etc
Even though I still thought that the ps3 line up were far more impressive, I still had a good time with these xbox games because they were unique and new to me. They were not game pass games, they were trying to compete with Sony.
So really, you are just harming the xbox brand when you allow Microsoft to downplay exclusives. Gamepass will not save xbox, it will save Microsoft's pocket. All you gonna get is gamepass "exclusives" not (the old school hype level xbox exclusives), there is a difference..
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NullZ3r0
Banned
Your affiliation isn't the point. Its just the mindset around here when it comes to Sony and MS.
Romulus
Member
I'm not sure that's xbox marketing bullshit. That could simply be the culture at xbox is completely delusional, considering that gameplay video 343i released. They clearly don't care anymore. Worse, they seemed proud of it.
How the could have one of the biggest franchises of all time, with a console brand literally on the ropes the last 7 years, and place all that trust in 343i? Okay, fine, you trust them again, but without being overbearing and making sure halo is ready? That never happened. It took gamers around the world, not Sony trolls, xbox fans, telling them to go back to the drawing board. What a fucking disaster. 5 years of development and hype trailers for something that looked like Halo 4 running in a forge map. This is literally worse than the TV 2013 reveal.
How the could have one of the biggest franchises of all time, with a console brand literally on the ropes the last 7 years, and place all that trust in 343i? Okay, fine, you trust them again, but without being overbearing and making sure halo is ready? That never happened. It took gamers around the world, not Sony trolls, xbox fans, telling them to go back to the drawing board. What a fucking disaster. 5 years of development and hype trailers for something that looked like Halo 4 running in a forge map. This is literally worse than the TV 2013 reveal.
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Majima Everywhere System
Member
I think what you mean to say is that with Halo out of the launch, it frees up airways to talk about the value of gamepass and BC on your new system.
Games that we want arent hitting as fast as they used to or we want them to. When the time comes 10 hours after you finish Miles Morales, the PS5 looks like it is on track to work like a PS4 at best. With zero interest in the first 3 years (that final fantasy wont hit, persona wont hit, and everything else is likely on Xbox), I am excited to buy a PS5 pro that is not on fire holiday 2023.
Games that we want arent hitting as fast as they used to or we want them to. When the time comes 10 hours after you finish Miles Morales, the PS5 looks like it is on track to work like a PS4 at best. With zero interest in the first 3 years (that final fantasy wont hit, persona wont hit, and everything else is likely on Xbox), I am excited to buy a PS5 pro that is not on fire holiday 2023.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Well, it was certainly the point a second ago! : P
For sure, though. I won’t point to any side, but there’s a lot of fanboys. Comes with the territory of being able to express yourself and your ideas freely, and normally, as opposed to other sites, I suppose.
I just recommend not letting them get to you. Ignore them, or learn to just take it from where it comes from. It’s all too easy to open fire on someone just making a normal comment, when they get in your head.
And to be fair, I can be harsh on Xbox, but that’s because post-One X, I really like the brand.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Nintendo seem to do ok
Yes because they have a surplus of blue-chip characters and franchises established over 4 decades, Xbox doesn't.
They have by far the weakest back-catalog of the big 3 and have always struggled to establish banner IP.
The circumstances that led them to success in the 360 era had little to do with their software line-up being better than their competitors, and things have not improved in this regard over the last decade - in fact, if anything its gotten worse.
