You're a small proportion of the market.
Lmfao. PS5 will outsell XSX and XSS by 3 to 1. I'll bet my account on it.
You're a small proportion of the market.
The quality argument that Sony fans claim is evaporating in front of their eyes, the last couple of MS titles released were rated anywhere from 85 to over 90, but they are in denial and are trying to write them off with their mental gymnastics.
Xbox is simply the much better overall package when it comes to the ecosystem in which you will spend the next 5+ years into that is undeniable.
The actual sane argument is that Sony is pricing their first party games at $70/each while Microsoft and most third parties appear to be sticking with the $60 price point. With the digital PS5 you're locked in to the digital prices which will probably remain high.
So - if you plan on buying 10 or more games next gen, the Series X should come out to be the cheaper console, even without factoring in Game Pass or the ability to buy used games.
The last couple of titles were in the 80s and suddenly they're on par with Sony? What? Even 5 in a row doesn't prove that.
I would rather pay $2000 if I'm forced to for a PS5 than being forced to only take XSX for free with every first party game being for free and GOLD for free. I respect my time and hobby.
This makes me want to buy you a Series S for Christmas, just to see it mistreated like an unwanted child. Maybe you could do a photo diary showcasing the neglect.
For the record, as gamers we are lucky in the year 2020 where the cost of phones have reached $1,500, tech and cost of living is an all time high, we get to choose from the most powerful systems ever released for the cheapest they have been in decades. You can prob thank Microsoft for that. This thread isnt meant to knock PS5 and its value, but rather to give perspective to those that think the $399 discless PS5 is better deal than the $299 XSS or $499 XSX.
The $299 XSS is underpowered (but still solid) but thats the point. Its targeted at budget minded folks or those that could care less about 4k. It also serves as a cheap secondary system, and a competitor to Switch. The true next gen systems are XSX and PS5, PS5 happens to offer a discless option for $100 less, but is it really saving you money in the long run? How many games can you afford to actually play on it?
Lets take a look at a theoretical 1 year cost for both systems:
keep in mind the $620 you pay for XSX gets you hundreds of titles spanning gamepass and EA access, whereas your $810 on PS5 gets you what you only the 5 games you paid for (not counting the free games given on both services).
- $399 discless PS5 + 5 first party titles + 1yr PS network $60 = $810
- $499 XSX + 5 first party titles + 1yr gamepass ultimate = $620 ($601 if you use all access financing which is zero down)
5 first party titles most people would want in year 1:
Sony: Demon Souls, Miles Morales, God of War, Ratchet, Horizon Zero
Microsoft: Halo Infinite, Hellblade, Forza Motorsport 8, Fable, Everwild
More points to consider
- Aside from this you get a disc tray with XSX which means you can buy and trade used games saving you more money. 3rd party games like COD, Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk, Need for Speed etc could be traded once purchased on XSX, not on discless PS5.
- XSX is more powerful and there is a good chance 3rd party games will look and run better, so there is that.
- Lets not forget the XSX while $100 more, gets you a vastly superior BC model spanning thousands of titles across 3 generations, many of which are enhanced with 4x resolution and 2x FPS. On PS5, you get about 30 PS4 titles announced so far....
- Also, you get Xcloud which is included for free with gamepass ultimate, you get to play a large library of top rated titles on your mobile device adding even more value.
Bottomline, you will spend a lot more gaming on PS5, so don't let the $100 savings on a discless PS5 be the main reason you go with Sony, because in the bigger picture you spend much more and get much less. Obviously most gamers will go where their favorite games are, but if you are torn then this is something to consider.
Personally, I will get a 3000 series GPU, an XSX on launch with zero down and use gamepass to continue my games in my bedroom when im not at my desk. A PS5 for me perhaps when God of War and Horizon come out.
who cares, I'll pay more for better quality.
It makes the $299 for Series S a bad deal.
I was thinking this exact thought this morning, the series s with gamepass is actually great value compared to the PS5DE, despite the big hardware difference.
The PS5DE is a sick joke with $125 AUD games, Sony knows it, but will grandma know it? poor little johnny-six-pack
full disclaimer will be trading in my pro and X1 for the disc version of both next gen consoles.
Sony has the advantage of a few great studios and their output but I actually think the xbox hardware and software ecosystem is far ahead in many ways.
I suspect just like this gen my Ps5 and switch will gather dust between a few big exclusives, majority of gaming to be done on PC and xbox.
Wow thanks for showing me the light OP. With all these "educational" threads popping up I can't decide if I should switch to PC or to Xbox. This is going to be tough.
Ahh finally someone who doesn't get emotional over this stuff. Funny part is I bought a ps5 today and people prob think I'm an Xbox fanboy for my post but honestly I was just doing the math and looking at things solely from a cost perspective.Can't believe how many people get triggered by Gamepass's existence. The math checks out.
In what world is $400 SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than $300? The Specs for Series S is absolutely garbage for the $100 deficit. What're you even talking about?
Can't believe how many people get triggered by Gamepass's existence. The math checks out.
Lmfao. PS5 will outsell XSX and XSS by 3 to 1. I'll bet my account on it.
But clearly not your wallet???I would rather pay $2000 if I'm forced to for a PS5 than being forced to only take XSX for free with every first party game being for free and GOLD for free. I respect my time and hobby.
But clearly not your wallet???
For the record, as gamers we are lucky in the year 2020 where the cost of phones have reached $1,500, tech and cost of living is an all time high, we get to choose from the most powerful systems ever released for the cheapest they have been in decades. You can prob thank Microsoft for that. This thread isnt meant to knock PS5 and its value, but rather to give perspective to those that think the $399 discless PS5 is better deal than the $299 XSS or $499 XSX.
The $299 XSS is underpowered (but still solid) but thats the point. Its targeted at budget minded folks or those that could care less about 4k. It also serves as a cheap secondary system, and a competitor to Switch. The true next gen systems are XSX and PS5, PS5 happens to offer a discless option for $100 less, but is it really saving you money in the long run? How many games can you afford to actually play on it?
Lets take a look at a theoretical 1 year cost for both systems:
keep in mind the $620 you pay for XSX gets you hundreds of titles spanning gamepass and EA access, whereas your $810 on PS5 gets you what you only the 5 games you paid for (not counting the free games given on both services).
- $399 discless PS5 + 5 first party titles + 1yr PS network $60 = $810
- $499 XSX + 5 first party titles + 1yr gamepass ultimate = $620 ($601 if you use all access financing which is zero down)
5 first party titles most people would want in year 1:
Sony: Demon Souls, Miles Morales, God of War, Ratchet, Horizon Zero
Microsoft: Halo Infinite, Hellblade, Forza Motorsport 8, Fable, Everwild
More points to consider
- Aside from this you get a disc tray with XSX which means you can buy and trade used games saving you more money. 3rd party games like COD, Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk, Need for Speed etc could be traded once purchased on XSX, not on discless PS5.
- XSX is more powerful and there is a good chance 3rd party games will look and run better, so there is that.
- Lets not forget the XSX while $100 more, gets you a vastly superior BC model spanning thousands of titles across 3 generations, many of which are enhanced with 4x resolution and 2x FPS. On PS5, you get about 30 PS4 titles announced so far....
- Also, you get Xcloud which is included for free with gamepass ultimate, you get to play a large library of top rated titles on your mobile device adding even more value.
Bottomline, you will spend a lot more gaming on PS5, so don't let the $100 savings on a discless PS5 be the main reason you go with Sony, because in the bigger picture you spend much more and get much less. Obviously most gamers will go where their favorite games are, but if you are torn then this is something to consider.
Personally, I will get a 3000 series GPU, an XSX on launch with zero down and use gamepass to continue my games in my bedroom when im not at my desk. A PS5 for me perhaps when God of War and Horizon come out.
How much is GamesPass if you purchase it in ANY month, how much is a single month?How about no?
There is option to wait for sales or buy used, you know? if money is an issue, then smart people do that anyway, not waste it on some expensive online services.
Here:
ps5 499-529€ + 5 games used 30-40€ (within 1-2 weeks from the launch, I have always done this without problems to find them) = 150-200€ + ps+ for 45-59€
xsex 509 - 599€ + 12.99€ gamepass x 12 months = 155,88€
Conclusion = PS5 may cost more, but at least there is games to play.
Game pass is good deal only to those that are already invested in xbox ecosystem, or like MS style games.
For rest of us it is like getting gay porn tv service as straight guy, may be cheaper than straight porn but there is nothing to watch.
Yeah it is fun to make these comparisons but games are the main selling point besides the brand people like, so price alone wont change it.
You left out the $300+ you will probably be paying to get a 2tb plus ssd drive to replace the small storage size of the ps5For the record, as gamers we are lucky in the year 2020 where the cost of phones have reached $1,500, tech and cost of living is an all time high, we get to choose from the most powerful systems ever released for the cheapest they have been in decades. You can prob thank Microsoft for that. This thread isnt meant to knock PS5 and its value, but rather to give perspective to those that think the $399 discless PS5 is better deal than the $299 XSS or $499 XSX.
The $299 XSS is underpowered (but still solid) but thats the point. Its targeted at budget minded folks or those that could care less about 4k. It also serves as a cheap secondary system, and a competitor to Switch. The true next gen systems are XSX and PS5, PS5 happens to offer a discless option for $100 less, but is it really saving you money in the long run? How many games can you afford to actually play on it?
Lets take a look at a theoretical 1 year cost for both systems:
keep in mind the $620 you pay for XSX gets you hundreds of titles spanning gamepass and EA access, whereas your $810 on PS5 gets you what you only the 5 games you paid for (not counting the free games given on both services).
- $399 discless PS5 + 5 first party titles + 1yr PS network $60 = $810
- $499 XSX + 5 first party titles + 1yr gamepass ultimate = $620 ($601 if you use all access financing which is zero down)
5 first party titles most people would want in year 1:
Sony: Demon Souls, Miles Morales, God of War, Ratchet, Horizon Zero
Microsoft: Halo Infinite, Hellblade, Forza Motorsport 8, Fable, Everwild
More points to consider
- Aside from this you get a disc tray with XSX which means you can buy and trade used games saving you more money. 3rd party games like COD, Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk, Need for Speed etc could be traded once purchased on XSX, not on discless PS5.
- XSX is more powerful and there is a good chance 3rd party games will look and run better, so there is that.
- Lets not forget the XSX while $100 more, gets you a vastly superior BC model spanning thousands of titles across 3 generations, many of which are enhanced with 4x resolution and 2x FPS. On PS5, you get about 30 PS4 titles announced so far....
- Also, you get Xcloud which is included for free with gamepass ultimate, you get to play a large library of top rated titles on your mobile device adding even more value.
Bottomline, you will spend a lot more gaming on PS5, so don't let the $100 savings on a discless PS5 be the main reason you go with Sony, because in the bigger picture you spend much more and get much less. Obviously most gamers will go where their favorite games are, but if you are torn then this is something to consider.
Personally, I will get a 3000 series GPU, an XSX on launch with zero down and use gamepass to continue my games in my bedroom when im not at my desk. A PS5 for me perhaps when God of War and Horizon come out.
So much this.Ill stick with my ps4 pro and unplayed games.
keep in mind the $620 you pay for XSX gets you hundreds of titles spanning gamepass and EA access, whereas your $810 on PS5 gets you what you only the 5 games you paid for (not counting the free games given on both services).