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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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user1337

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Fuck. That.
Hopefully that's just the overpriced digital prices :messenger_fearful: 🤞
Nope, its the retail cost for discs. Basically my plan is.....I will share my PSN account with my brother and we will split the cost of games. Also i'll get some extra discount on top of that by paying pre-paid PSN wallet top ups from shopto which are always on discount. Like a £50 top up is sold for £43 etc.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Demon's remake is an historical moment for videogames still.
For sure, I'm excited to play it but I ain't buying it for £70
Wait for a price drop
I feel that cross-gen is like cake. With the current Gen versions you only get the cake. With next gen versions you also get icing and/or buttercream with your cake.
I'm seeing it as Cross-gen is like Blu-ray
Looks fantastic and can probably look good for a good couple of years and looking at it you probably wouldn't even think anything needs improvement but the Next-Gen 4K Blu ray looks even better
 
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This cross gen situation is definitely not ideal, but it does seem possible to do it right (e.g. RDR2 and hopefully Cyberpunk) and it can be done wrong (e.g. Halo Infinite). I think if Devs throw enough money/teams at two distinct different versions to not let lower performance versions hold back the next gen versions then maybe it won't be as much as of a negative as feared. Will be very interesting to see the differences between the disparate versions of cross gen games. It will be very evident if it is done right or wrong.
 

Sinthor

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Did you not notice that the six inch punch is much more powerful?
I guess power is important.

Well, if you want to get technical about it, the difference in the 1 inch to 6 inch punch is the speed that is built up over the greater distance. Bruce didn't have any more POWER available to him the second time over the first. The increased distance let him build up more speed and momentum.

That and of course, the fact that this was a slightly BS demo for a large crowd.... :)
 

DaGwaphics

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Just noticed footage for Spider-Man is 60fps, with raytracing visible on puddles etc.

Daemon Souls and Resident evil all 60 too.

Nice to see the higher fps in some titles, hopefully players get used to the fluidity and then demand a 60fps mode going forward. Probably won't happen, but let me dream.
 

IntentionalPun

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Devalues the console, see nintendo for reference. It's tiresome to explain it again at this point.
It's not about being petty as PCMR "thinks", although the majority of them are the entitled self centered bunch.
And why in the world would you care if it "devalues the console" though?

I'm not calling everyone petty and I don't feel "entitled" to console exclusives releasing on PC.

I'm confused why any consumer would think it's a bad thing. What exactly do you mean by the Nintendo example? That due to exclusivity Nintendo can charge $60 for shoddy ports? Can charge high prices for cheap hardware? Where do consumers benefit again?
 
For sure, I'm excited to play it but I ain't buying it for £70
Wait for a price drop
The hironic side is that Demon's remake could be the most impressive soulslike ever. You got seven maps (or 8, if they add the cut content) and you can get there right from the start, your choice. It's a game that offers a completely free order of execution beyond even Dark Souls, as its interconnected nature created some other limitations. In this sense the SSD is far more useful, I can warp in all these places instantly? Fuck me, I'm ready. And if they expand on the world tendency you could get a far more dynamic ambient than any other of the genre. Plus, it will be the most competent from a tech perspective given it's Bluepoint, and I believe they are completely remaking every aspect, so you will get the best U.I., best quality of life stuff, best audio and balance.
This is really taking a classic and use its unique strenghts as a classic to make an incredible modern soulslike.
 
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TJC

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Fuck cross gen, I don't care if someone doesn't want to pay for a PS5, that's a they problem.

Sony fucked up with this I hope the games are fire with a big step up.
 

MastaKiiLA

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OK, let's go:
Will Spyderman MM and Horizon FW be retained with PS4 versions?

Of course yes.
The Jaguar CPU on PS4, and literally the biggest problem here. Maybe someone has already noticed, but 2 cores of the PS5 CPU yield more than all 8 cores of the PS4, not to mention the extra earnings from the architecture.
So what are we getting?


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PS4 assets..

Well the fact is, a PS4 version has to work on PS4. So you simply cannot cut the CPU, geometry and design have to be the same in both versions or they are not the same game, so starting from that is already a problem:
Insominiac (and no details have yet been given) using 1080p30fps PS4 as the base version of Spyderman (MM) 4k60fps is more than mandatory in the PS5 version as we are seeing a difference of almost 10 times of raw power. (Not counting the optimizations architecture).

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Even the poor SSD is underutilized here as the game has to run on the HD 5400rpm. Literally begins PS5 with 4 flat tires.
And if Halo's criticism was about an Xbox One version delaying the new generation, here Sony stuck in the puddle ...

Horizon FW apparently will suffer literally double, while Insominiac has two titles and the Guerrilla has focused on this game since 2018 (this would be Sony's Halo) the most important game on PS5, downgraded to crossgen ... the scale of the map, drawing distance, the game's own mechanics and interaction with the world, geometry and of course RAM will literally be for other games ...

Taking advantage of God of War Ragnarok will have a PS4 version?
I don't think so, because they didn't say anything about Rachet and Clank so it's 80% exclusive to PS5 (but of course if you told me Horizon FW has a PS4 version, I would also doubt it and accuse you of FUD) .
I have no idea what you're talking about. What exactly are you pointing out in the screenshots? Are you highlighting background objects? Foreground? I have no idea.

This is the problem with some Sony fans spending so much time beating up the Xbox for cross-gen, is you open the door for months or years of this kind of nonsense, where a game that legitimately looked good in its trailer last night, gets squiggly lines around what i assume it just normal LOD that every game employs.

For the record, I never complained about cross-gen. I don't think it's an issue, and it's happened every generation. I'm not sure why it was supposed to suddenly matter this go-round. Console wars always start before anyone has the receipts, and the console warriors always write checks their systems can't cash. Then every gaming conversation devolves into a bunch of people nitpicking everything. This is why we can't have nice things.
 
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Nope. The resolution will be the only difference. If dynamic res is enabled, PS5 will render at a slightly lower res than SX that will be imperceptible unless zoomed-in in a side-by-side comparison, but that's about it. Graphics will be identical.
Depends on your TV and how big the difference will be.
 
Anyone from Brazil?


Price here is not bad at all here. Really tempeted. Discless version with no warrantly, but fuck It, I trust Cerny Magic cooling system.
Around 950 Dollars :messenger_downcast_sweat:

We did it again folks, the meme is alive again. The most expensive PS5 in the world.

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IntentionalPun

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You know what you guys COULD do with FUD?

Not post it here.

Just a thought.

This thread reminds me of your typical game review thread... does it exist to actually inform people of reviews for purchase decisions? Nah, it's a bunch of people who already bought a game complaining about reviews that disagree with them.
 
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You know what you guys COULD do with FUD?

Not post it here.

Just a thought.

This thread reminds me of your typical game review thread... does it exist to actually inform people of reviews for purchase decisions? Nah, it's a bunch of people who already bought a game complaining about reviews that disagree with them.
This would be great.

It brings down any excitement and turns discussion into a tribalistic "fuck those guys."

Pointless.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Just a quick question, with games like DMCV that have a 1080p 120fps mode
Wouldn't that work on none 2.1 HDMi TV's with capable of 120fps in 1080p?
 

HeisenbergFX4

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If it's native 4K and 120 fps I'll be very surprised. A game would have to look rather bad to facilitate that and CoD looks ok to me.

Yeah even this article from Venture Beat says : With next-generation consoles, the game will play at 4K resolution and refresh rates at 120hz.

But you would think if that was truly the case every time Treyarch posted anything they would be hammering that point.

 

demigod

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I should edit this saying I am poking fun at him for thinking he knows the tech behind this stuff

Interesting take sorry if already posted this thread and light speed movement and all.

I will remove the tweet I angered some people.

In "interesting" I mean kind of funny.

If only Mr. 40% posted here, I would’ve bet him that the ps5 wasn’t 8TF like he claimed. I didn’t want to post over on era. Damn could’ve won 2!
 
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