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[Agnostic2020]

DRichard Leadbetter at 38:50 said:

Every single developer I've spoken to developing for PS5 has been evangelising how easy it is to work for, Its essentially the same development environment as PS4 and you scale up from there, for the new powers, the features and whatnot. I can't stress enough how happy developers seem to be with this situation

Richard Leadbetter at 39:45 said:

There is simply no doubt that the XSX on paper, the more powerful machine. However again, speaking to developers the development environment they are dealing with some people seem to be extremely happy with it, other people are having problems with it because they've moved away from what was previously the XDK which was specific for the Xbox to the GDK which is a more general environment for PC and for Xbox and even Xbox one is encompassed by the GDK

He mentions at the end of the day its the software that shows the capabilities of a hardware and that is as much dependent on development environment as specs.

Hopefully all the fake fud about ps5 will die soon.

 

[ManaByte]

Isn’t this the same person people here were calling a MS shill for getting early access to the Series S?

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Let's have a conversation about it. Is this why we have not seen XSX footage yet?

 

[bender]

Calculating.....

all > not all

Isn’t this the same person people here were calling a MS shill for getting early access to the Series S?

I have a hard time keeping up.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Let's have a conversation about it. Is this why we have not seen XSX footage yet?

Most probably. Even dmc5 will add raytracing patch later for xsx due to "working on it and needs more time , hence will come at later date " just like halo infinite situation

 

[Lukin1978]

 

[Dr Bass]

Everyone except the RE8 team apparently ...

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Some developers are better than others.

 

[Nikana]

Isn’t this the same person people here were calling a MS shill for getting early access to the Series S?

 

[Bonfires Down]

Isn’t this the same person people here were calling a MS shill for getting early access to the Series S?

Who are you gonna trust? Rich, or a forum full of Sony fanboys?

 

[bender]

Everyone except the RE8 team apparently ...

This seems appropriate now:

 

[Captain Hero]

 

[BattleScar]

Who are you gonna trust? Rich, or a forum full of Sony fanboys?

You should take neither's word as gospel to be brutally honest.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Everyone except the RE8 team apparently ...

Well that’s just a rumour by someone who has been wrong a lot lately from silent hill to PS5 being 600

 

[McCheese]

An SDK for a single platform with one set of specs has a lot less to worry about. But I like love to know how MS fucked it up, as all the right ingredients seem to be there for them. they have visual studio which is pretty great as the IDE, and both systems essentially use the same Direct X calls now for graphics, so it really shouldn't be any harder than iPad and iPhone cross development which is a synch in xcode.

 

[Stuart360]

Strange, you would of thought devs would be happy about moving to GDK, assuming they have been developing PC games over the years, which i'm sure most have.

 

[Swift Hunta]

Strange, you would of thought devs would be happy about moving to GDK, assuming they have been developing PC games over the years, which i'm sure most have.

The few that haven’t built for pc are probably the ones complaining.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Most probably. Even dmc5 will add raytracing patch later for xsx due to "working on it and needs more time , hence will come at later date " just like halo infinite situation

I thought ray tracing would be available at launch for XSX. So what's so special about the Xbox edition of DMC5 then?

 

[bender]

You should take neither's word as gospel to be brutally honest.

Only a sample size will determine Rich's worth.

 

[Agnostic2020]

The few that haven’t built for pc are probably the ones complaining.

U don't know about that .so I would not make such general comment .

 

[Agnostic2020]

I thought ray tracing would be available at launch for XSX. So what's so special about the Xbox edition of DMC5 then?

For now just the 1080p 120 fps with no RT will be on xsx . The RT will come at later date

 

[Fake]

IDK why Microsoft is so evasive about Series X, but maybe is API related? Is Series X using directx 12?

I mean, Phil have a Series X in his home, so maybe he know something.

 

[Michael Hawk]

Isn’t this the same person people here were calling a MS shill for getting early access to the Series S?

Of course he is.

But even the shilliest shill can't hide the fact that multiple high-profile developers have (publicly) spoken extremely positively about PS5 development whereas those same developers have been oddly quiet about developing for the XSX and XSS.

The only person to claim that PS5 development hasn't been great is a non-developer user on Reeeeee who wears Xbox combat fatigues. He made the claim -- by his own acknowledgment -- as a means to 'even out' the negative Xbox news.

 

[Vick]

Who are you gonna trust? Rich, or a forum full of Sony fanboys?

Muh oppression!

 

[DinoD]

The biggest issue with Series S is gimped RAM. Otherwise it could have been the masterstroke by MS.

 

[-Arcadia-]

I’d love to know more specifics. I don’t doubt any of this, as that sounds like quite the change, but I’d like insight into what’s different, if it can be acclimated to, if improvements are coming, etc.

 

[INC]

Rather wait for comparisons before I reward with more clicks

 

[sublimit]

Hopefully all the fake fud about ps5 will die soon.

-Dusk Golem: "Hold my beer..."

 

[Darklor01]

Isn’t this the same person people here were calling a MS shill for getting early access to the Series S?

Yes. Thank goodness Sony paid him off too so we can all move on.

 

[Dr Bass]

Well that’s just a rumour by someone who has been wrong a lot lately from silent hill to PS5 being 600

Which is why my post was dripping with sarcasm (or I thought it was).

 

[Swift Hunta]

U don't know about that .so I would not make such general comment .

Lol alrighty then. It was more of a guess/probability but if that triggered you that much I take back what I said.

 

[M1chl]

Who the fuck cares, in here I expect people going for XSX or PS5. Let's let plebs to also have fun.

 

[Zato]

Isn’t this the same person people here were calling a MS shill for getting early access to the Series S?

He is actually an old Sega fanboy .... do believe he bears a a slight grudge Sony helped kill Sega as much as Sega killed themselves.

 

[Zato]

The biggest issue with Series S is gimped RAM. Otherwise it could have been the masterstroke by MS.

Dont forget gimped GPU.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Who the fuck cares, in here I expect people going for XSX or PS5. Let's let plebs to also have fun.

It says xsx .not xss . Its about development environment which is same for both

 

[M1chl]

It says xsx .not xss . Its about development environment which is same for both

Alright sorry, that I did not read it properly. I can see that if I look at MS SDK in Windows, it's a mess.

 

[gamechanger87]

From what I understand the issue is that MS moved from an Xbox only SDK to an Xbox/Pc one which will make it incredibly easy to have games in both when the kinks are worked out. Its a new GDK focused on both PC and Xbox. When it’s streamlined it will be great, can’t imagine it is right now.

PS5s sdk is the PS4 one but updated. Which is obviously easier when you’ve been using it for 7 years

 

[Agnostic2020]

Again it seems like that crytek graphic engineer was correct 6 months ago about xbox development environment for xsx being more difficult than ps5

Crytek employee claims that PS5 is easier to code and then retracts statement - KitGuru

Crytek rendering engineer Ali Salehi stated in an interview that PS5 was the best next-gen console o

www.kitguru.net

 

[Jaguar Victory]

I wonder if we'll get another Series X showcase before launch

 

[Agnostic2020]

I wonder if we'll get another Series X showcase before launch

Of course not . What gives u impression thats even a thing ?

 

[Jaguar Victory]

Of course not . What gives u impression thats even a thing ?

It just seems this gen rollouts are completely different and it's hard to know what to expect. Expect the unexpected is how I'm taking it.

 

[MarkMe2525]

It's getting to the point where you can guess op by thread title around here.

The cherry picking of info, in post like these, is similar to how conspiracy theories are constructed. Is DF the authority on console development? Do we know how many devs they spoke to who are actively developing on both platforms/one or the other? Hasn't op discredited info coming from DF in the past?

This is clearly a barely disguised console war post.

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

Oh, so you guys like DF again now? Lmao

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Again it seems like that crytek graphic engineer was correct 6 months ago about xbox development environment for xsx being more difficult than ps5

Crytek employee claims that PS5 is easier to code and then retracts statement - KitGuru

Crytek rendering engineer Ali Salehi stated in an interview that PS5 was the best next-gen console o

www.kitguru.net

The prophet.

 

[Max_Po]

I think, this gen will show that Frame rate is king. and 10.what ever vs 12 TFlop won't matter.

 

[Max_Po]

The prophet.

People have been doubting the real SONY saviors... Mark Cerny... this guy literally saved SONY after Krazy Ken got the boot.


Imagine Ken developing CELL 2 and bankrupting SONY

 

[THE DUCK]

We've also had large developers go on tbe record stating the development tools were a hairs breath from each other.

 

[Agnostic2020]

It's getting to the point where you can guess op by thread title around here.

The cherry picking of info utilized in post like this is similar to how conspiracy theories are constructed. Is DF the authority on console development? Do we know how many devs they spoke to who are actively developing on both platforms/one or the other? Hasn't op discredited info coming from DF in the past?

This is clearly a not well disguised console war post.

We had a thread about a flimsy rumor of dusk gollem saying ps5 was struggling and we had that thread and it had absolutely no back up other than a tweet . Atleast we all know Richard has contact with developers. U don't like the thread don't participate in it next time .

 

[MarkMe2525]

We had a thread about a flimsy rumor of dusk gollem saying ps5 was struggling and we had that thread and it had absolutely no back up other than a tweet . Atleast we all know Richard has contact with developers. U don't like the thread don't participate in it next time .

I'm sorry, does someone creating a shitty thread justify other people making shitty threads?

You are literally admitting to console waring with that tit for tat attitude.

 

[Agnostic2020]

I'm sorry, does someone creating a shitty thread justify other people making shitty threads?

Its not a shitty thread .it might be to you but thats a u problem . Its a very interesting input from devs. U dont like it , don't participate. End of story