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DF: All Developers Extremely Happy With PS5 Development But Not All Are Happy With XSX Development
- Thread starter Agnostic2020
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I have no idea is Dusk golem is reliable or an insider or what. However, if you're going to attack someone at least attack them for what they actually said, not what you think they said.
1) Exclusive Silent Hill reboot in development for PS5.
Who knows, but is this really so hard to believe?
2) RE8 is running better on Series X than PS5.
Who knows? It seems to be about power though, nothing about Xbox being easier to develop for, in fact he said "PS5 is easier to develop for overall".
3) PS5 build cost is $600
Who knows? It could be that Sony are eating $100 on each unit. Do you know the confirmed build price?
Like I said, I have no idea if this guy is legit or not but I don't see anything in his claims that you've proven to be 'bullshit'.
Fake
Member
Sony
Can't deny the facts.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
DF words are only true when it holds Sony in a positive light. So many hypocrites on GAF these days. Not even worth engaging in these echo chambers.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
People said that about the original Xbox. They have been praying for MS to exit the console business from the start. Weird stance to take for gamers.
If the development studios are having trouble coding for the XSX they should contact MS to get some dev support. I'm sure MS has a team to help devs that are struggling. I'm really expecting the multi-platform games to look better on PS5 since it is so much easier to develop for.
JLMC469
Banned
The Series X isn’t difficult to work with though. Article states that some devs aren’t as happy as others. Most seem pleased with it. It is still the more powerful console.
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Vick
Member
Dude you can’t say a Forum in which calling an action packed, combat heavy traversal based free roam game “movie” will get you tons of likes, and nonsense like this happening multiple times daily, “Forum full of Sony fanboys”. You just can’t.
Sure, there are 2 or 3 unobjective Sony fanboys, but the overwhelming majority of Sony fans here are just multiplatform people loving well made video games balancing the nonsense spread by real fanboys. And who would have thought in a supposedly enthusiast videogames Forum.
Bryank75
Banned
OK... Mr Golem!
El Pistolero
Banned
What drug are you on? Care to explain what the strategy is, O Wise One?
I'm not sure, where are you going to get a non-anectdotal evidence on heavily NDA-ed dev environments?
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megreotsugua
Banned
This is what the graphic rendering engineer from Crytek has been saying. Xbox's API and development kit is general purpose and tailored to different machine specs ala PC. This means thicker layer of abstraction. It will hamper the optimization and efficiency of the 12TF xbox.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
What title is going to be the first next gen multiplat? Valhalla?
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INC
Member
Probably along with dirt 5 and cyberpunk
JLMC469
Banned
Cyberpunk will be very interesting.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Was gonna make a Dusk Goldem joke someone already has.
Just need to give Jim Ryan the boot too.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Well ya, cus Cerny said it, it must be true.
In reality, this thread is kind of pointless. These are modern day development kits from billion dollar tech corporations, on almost identical same generation hardware from even the same vendor.
Sony isn't "killing it", its simply competive.
In reality, this thread is kind of pointless. These are modern day development kits from billion dollar tech corporations, on almost identical same generation hardware from even the same vendor.
Sony isn't "killing it", its simply competive.
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Senua
Member
It's almost like the people saying that were the wanabe shills themselves, oh the irony
DrScissorsMD
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I mean, more difficult =/= bad. I’m sure MS will be fine once the tools have been out long enough, and they are supporting an additional platform in PC so it makes sense their dev would be a bit more complicated.
Also lol at how you guys hate DF until they say something you agree with.
Also lol at how you guys hate DF until they say something you agree with.
MarkMe2525
Member
The lack of info means there are no conclusions to be drawn, not that you should accept claims based on bad info.
.Life is unfair and there are a lot of times when you need to draw conclusions on pretty partial data. Sorry.
In the case of consoles none of the data will be ever conclusive. That's how it is.
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sixamp
Member
Actually it's only the perfect price because microsoft made the xbsx /series S cheap. The ps5 was more expensive than the xbx
Bolivar687
Banned
His name is Ali Salehi.
Vick
Member
Demon’s Souls, R&C and?
GoW is not going to be relesed for a while and the other titles will be available on PS4 as well.
Just curious if i missed something, because as far as i’m aware there’s not “a lot of exclusives” on PS5 at the moment nor in the near future.
MarkMe2525
Member
You are literally saying it's better to guess rather than wait for facts. Don't be sorry for me. I hope you don't use that logic in other areas of your life.
If the point of this thread is to try to determine which console is going to have some sort of advantage.... What value does a guess have?
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Shmunter
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Man that generic SDK sounds like a massive set backwards for taking advantage of a closed environment. Probably explains why we see no XsX footage.
Prediction: PS5 titles will punch above their weight as is customary for console, XsX below. Would be ironic if PS5 outperforms XsX on a consistent basis.
Those rumours about RE8 being non performant on PS5 are potentially related to XsX instead
Prediction: PS5 titles will punch above their weight as is customary for console, XsX below. Would be ironic if PS5 outperforms XsX on a consistent basis.
Those rumours about RE8 being non performant on PS5 are potentially related to XsX instead
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BRZBlue
Member
Its entirely possible. Makes me wonder if some studios will be making PS5 their main development platform, and port to XsX.
Chiggs
Member
I bet it will happen for the next 12-24 months. Then MS will get pissy and make some more mandates and throw more cash at developers.
JLMC469
Banned
You probably the only one that believed those rumors.
There won't be any facts.
Those who know cannot say, and those who say don't know shit.
That's how it is.
You need to rely on educated guessing.
JLMC469
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MarkMe2525
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Edit: I stated my opinion. Let's say we agree to disagree.
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DaleinCalgary
Member
Not crystal clear. MS and Sony will improve the development software as the years go. You will need to look at how the exclusives look to see how far they can optimize them at the time. We will see games in 5 years that will blow away most releases in the next couple years.
Humdinger
Member
Godfall and Returnal as well (Godfall is going to PC, so just console exclusive on that one). Destruction All Stars also, and Astro's Playroom, if you count that. Deathloop is a timed console exclusive to PS5. Ghostwire: Tokyo is console exclusive to PS5. Then there are others further out -- e.g., Project Athia, FFXVI, possibly GT7. We don't know about Ragnarok yet. I'm guessing it's cross-gen, but that's just a guess.
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JLMC469
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IbelieveInGenerations
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I trust in Dusk Golem, Blue, Tim and the rest of Phils Alliance. Their words are the law.
GreenAlien
Member
The ones who aren't pleased are probably the same ones that give us bad pc ports..
They will learn, and as a PC player I will profit
They will learn, and as a PC player I will profit
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Vick
Member
Thanks, not interested in any of these but nice to know they’re there.
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BRZBlue
Member
Now the crazy conspiracies start.
Didn't they have that mandate that if they didn't get a game day and date that it had to be upgraded or have added content?
MarkMe2525
Member
Edit: No need to continue this. I stated my opinion on it.
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JLMC469
Banned
Posters theories after the article:
1. MS will pay devs to get games on par with PS5.
2. PS5 will be lead platform and consistently have better 3rd party titles.
3. Devs will have difficulties using the Series X’s 12 tflops.
4. This is the reason why games haven’t been shown running on Series X.
5. Poster believes the RE rumor bs is real and referring to the Series X.
All this after an article that said most devs (which implies 80-90%) are happy with the ease of development on Series X. PS5 seems to be easier.
1. MS will pay devs to get games on par with PS5.
2. PS5 will be lead platform and consistently have better 3rd party titles.
3. Devs will have difficulties using the Series X’s 12 tflops.
4. This is the reason why games haven’t been shown running on Series X.
5. Poster believes the RE rumor bs is real and referring to the Series X.
All this after an article that said most devs (which implies 80-90%) are happy with the ease of development on Series X. PS5 seems to be easier.
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One thing Sony did with PS1 was make a great development environment including tools, documentation and support. This was in stark contrast to the poor job Sega and Nintendo has historically provided. The Saturn was an absolute mess. From my understanding Sony knocked it out of the park with PS4 as well. So to me it's not a surprise. Microsoft may not be as streamlined due to trying to cover PC development and several generations of hardware, or they didn't give it the attention it deserved. But this is one thing that has always been important to Sony.
Chiggs
Member
Now the crazy conspiracies start.
Huh? MS emphasizing Series X development 12-24 months from now in order to highlight its power advantage is a crazy conspiracy?
Yeah, I guess that’s real C-R-R-RAZY!
Oh, I see now. Your Xbox feelings have been hurt.
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Tell me more lies.