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[Push Square] Sony's lack of communication is becoming an issue
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Sony only shows thinks if the competition had already shown it's cards. Price was only revealed after MS announced the pricing. Tech was only shown after MS showed something. Games were only shown after the disappointing MS show. And they only show the good things they can show, not the ones that could result into bad news. They only react to competition. And as the No.1 they can do this and it is pure PR.
Every announcement from them can always be everything or nothing.
E.g. "We believe in generations" => pure marketing speech. There is no promise in it just a thought but the fans interpret much more into this. They didn't lie, but they absolutely knew what their fans would think if they say something like that.
Every announcement from them can always be everything or nothing.
E.g. "We believe in generations" => pure marketing speech. There is no promise in it just a thought but the fans interpret much more into this. They didn't lie, but they absolutely knew what their fans would think if they say something like that.
SoraNoKuni
Member
They are the market leader, people know they will deliver and they have nothing to prove.
Their consoles are the best to game on since like PS1.
Nintendo managed to be really successful at times but using a different target group.
Everything is fine, the console will be great, and the games even greater.
Their consoles are the best to game on since like PS1.
Nintendo managed to be really successful at times but using a different target group.
Everything is fine, the console will be great, and the games even greater.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Just like pre-orders date right? Yeah very tight schedule. lol
I mean Sony marketing has been on point since the first PS5 news it’s been good news after good news so why would you tight their fantastic marketing strategy right? lol
/Sarcasm
They don’t have a schedule and they are running like headless chickens. Not the first or last articles talking about Sony lack of communication so I would take their word over you random NeoGAF dude defending Sony because your favorite plastic box.
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Drunkensamurai
Member
I'm not giving them the click.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
Are you by any chance an Xbox fan? Just asking.
What was wrong with their pre-order date? They gave the date and retailers chose to do their own thing and ignore it. Has nothing to do with Sony.
They do have a schedule. They ignore what MS is doing and do their own thing.
DrumNBassDanTTV
Member
Not triggered, just fed up with the garbage you come out with on all these MS/Sony threads.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Lack of patience indeed. How dare they ask for more information less than 45 days to launch for the console they are paying premium for?
Thirty7ven
Banned
Oh no, my corporate friends haven’t spoken to me in 12 days, this is such a big problem.
martino
Member
how can we write that kind of article when https://screenrant.com/sony-hands-on-ps5-demo-youtube/
we have a date...if nothing is shown there then it will be the right time of rant.
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
You sound triggered to me.
I don't remember you from any of these threads, but then again I struggle to remember how many people I own in these threads.
hemo memo
Gold Member
I’ll not give them the benefit of the doubt when pretty much every recent article about the PS5 talks about the lack of info even the one you linked. I’ll assume the worse until they prove otherwise.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
They got early adopters that will buy anything for the next few months anyway (myself included), by then any info will be available to the public as they come out.
That said they sure dropped the ball this gen, last gen they pushed the narrative before launch. This gen it’s a confusing g mess of no info trailer drops and info hidden away on Twitter. People still think Spider man MM is a ps5 only game. Miss leading at best.
That said they sure dropped the ball this gen, last gen they pushed the narrative before launch. This gen it’s a confusing g mess of no info trailer drops and info hidden away on Twitter. People still think Spider man MM is a ps5 only game. Miss leading at best.
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Deleted member 775630
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Well in western Europe you can only find an Xbox at Polish Microsoft website at the moment. It's also sold out in the States, Japan, Korea, Australia, etc. So maybe in some countries it's not sold out, that doesn't change my point that these systems sold themselves, and there is no need for Sony to really push for more momentum.
TigerKnee
Member
Wow. Some of you Sony "fans" are really drinking the Koolaid if you find this lack of communication acceptable. I have my PS5 on pre-order as their first-party output is a must for me. But the lack of information coming from them compared to Microsoft is appalling. As many of you mentioned, they're sold out of pre-orders already. What's the point of withholding information?
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I have no idea what he's talking about. What about you guys? Eh? Anyone. Crap. I'm alone in here aren't ?
Kokoloko85
Member
Yeah it looks like my type of game and looks amazing
It makes it easier to avoid mistakes. This is not the Andrew house's playstation that was open and transparent who was not afraid of a mistake because they believed in themselves and product. This is secret squirrel Sony who waits for Microsoft to go first to capitalize even if it means bold faced lies. They were for generations before they were against them. Sad thing is they could be open honest and transparent still get 65-70% market share. They did not need to go secret squirrel dishonest route. That is what Andrew house understood they have the best studios in the world. They were going to win big so being open and honest was the best course.
Kylars Bluff
Neo Member
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trikster40
Member
Does it play games? Check.
Does it look better than current gen?Check.
Is Sony making games for it? Check.
Yup, I’m all good. Don’t need to know any more.
reinking
Gold Member
It is annoying by both companies. I will never wish for E3 to go away again since it forces them both to reveal information. We can praise MS for finally allowing their youtubers to show a little bit of something but so far we have mostly seen quick resume videos (something we saw months ago). DF seems to be the only one that has shown some performance on older titles. Yay? Even if MS has no first party titles ready where is some Cyberpunk 2077 gameplay on the Series X? Sony's youtubers better show a little more than... watch me power on the PS5 and two days later, look how fast it loads. I can't wait to see what Xbox youtubers get to show next? The Xbox store?
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Angel of BOOM!
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Journalists need news + Sony not giving news = Journlists have to make up news.
Portugeezer
Member
IMO these details are things enthusiasts like to know about before launch, and it's important, but the mass market doesn't put as much emphasis on these things.
It's a new playstation; the only information people need to know is when the new, more powerful PlayStation, will be released. I know people who preordered and THEN went to see what games were available at launch. No care about OS, launch games, etc before preordering.
It's a new playstation; the only information people need to know is when the new, more powerful PlayStation, will be released. I know people who preordered and THEN went to see what games were available at launch. No care about OS, launch games, etc before preordering.
Their preorder date in my part of the world was "in 12 hours". Retailers handled it poorly, but Sony didn't even give a day's notice to most of us. That's after promising they wouldn't do specifucally that.
There's no way in hell that wasn't to beat Xbox to opening preorders.
yurinka
Member
To say there's a 'Lack of communication' is lies and FUD.
Preorders are sold out everywhere, some retailer from UK even said won't be able to send some preordered consoles until next year. And this is producing gaming history record units for a console launch months, PS5 seems to be on track to break the all time gaming history record at least of units sold at launch weekend and launch month.
So if people is buying it at record levels means that Sony made a better job than any other console in gaming history selling it comunicating what was important to make people buy it.
Preorders are sold out everywhere, some retailer from UK even said won't be able to send some preordered consoles until next year. And this is producing gaming history record units for a console launch months, PS5 seems to be on track to break the all time gaming history record at least of units sold at launch weekend and launch month.
So if people is buying it at record levels means that Sony made a better job than any other console in gaming history selling it comunicating what was important to make people buy it.
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BabyfaceRe
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Nobody is forced to buy anything.
Think its still fair for people to attempt to be objective about what is and isn't a good console launch.
Each individual has thier own preferences/bias/financial situation. Seems pretty fair to say more information is objectively better than less information.
They are expensive devices with trash launch line ups. To me spending 600+ on a console and game where you haven't even seen it in action yet is absolutely nuts. Then again both consoles are sold out so clearly people are fine with it.
Is asking a waiter questions about the meal they advertise and you wish to purchas, whiny?
Just common sense to know exactly what you are getting before you pay for it.
McHuj
Member
I guess what bothers me most is that whole cross-gen issue and the lack of communication around the spiderman and horizon games being cross-gen. They always were and Sony always knew so for them to leave that detail out until the last minutes, makes me weary of what else are they obfuscating and why?
That decision hurt them more than it helped. In the end it probably won't matter though. But they're creating their own fud about their own console for no reason.
That decision hurt them more than it helped. In the end it probably won't matter though. But they're creating their own fud about their own console for no reason.
yurqqa
Member
Sure. But when you see zillion of topics "Sony, just let me preorder already" and after preorder started zillion more "Sony is not telling/showng us anything !!!", it's a bit too much.
I think Sony showed quite a lot. Video of Xbox SX assemlby by DF was done with Microsoft blessing because this internal design looks cool. If Sony's internal design is not that sleek, why should they show it ? They have great games, so they focused on games.
Both companies showed their strong points (apart from Halo Infinite) - this is called Marketing.
P.S. Also you don't usually preorder meals.
BabyfaceRe
Member
Its unlikely those 2 crowds are the same people and if they are they are idiots and kinda irrelevant when it comes to the conversation about being objective.
They have showed very little actually,but have talked a lot about new features. Xbox SX previews are going up all over showing the live console in performance, Sony is not doing the same.
"this is called Marketing." Yes it is. Not all marketing was created equal.
P.s. paying full price for a device/game before you know everything about it is pretty unique to the game industry. A very accurate analogy though with regards to knowing what you are paying for, the usual when it comes to products and services(again game industry is pretty unique in that sense).
Yeah, Sony is the one running around like headless chickens. Not MS without a launch lineup so they're throwing backwards compatibility in everyones face everyday since its the only thing they can actually advertise...
Sony's marketing in fact has been pretty great for the average consumer considering the hype surrounding it. Nobody will care that Sony didnt do a hands on video at the same time as MS once the consoles are out and people are enjoying their time running Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Sackboy, AC; Valhalla with haptic feedback, 3d audio and instant load times...
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Salmon Snake
Member
Sony please say something about the back button attachment.
anaphase
Member
I'm convinced that 80% of the people on GAF aren't even clamoring for news because they wanna know what they pre-ordered. They want news for the consoles wars.
Get a fucking grip. Some of you idiots bleed blue or green... there's no reciprocity. Almost like Stockholm syndrome. Jesus.
You guys say it's about the games, and you're 100% right. Sony already discussed their launch line up, so according to that logic, everyone should be satisfied until the thing drops. Unless that "games" spiel is something you tell yourselves so you can sleep better at night.
News will come when it comes.
Get a fucking grip. Some of you idiots bleed blue or green... there's no reciprocity. Almost like Stockholm syndrome. Jesus.
You guys say it's about the games, and you're 100% right. Sony already discussed their launch line up, so according to that logic, everyone should be satisfied until the thing drops. Unless that "games" spiel is something you tell yourselves so you can sleep better at night.
News will come when it comes.
FlyyGOD
Member
The conspiracy theories on NeoGAF have been off the charts for the past month. The journalist stated valid concerns and you guys question his integrity. Its really getting pathetic around here.
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Sid Of Bee
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It's only an issue for hardcore enthusiasts like us who crave all the details and information for our passion. Even so, most of us probably had our minds made up even before any information was given. Particularly PS fans. I just choose which one I buy first, because I usually end up getting all the systems because I like what they all usually offer. I love many different types of game experiences.. but most casual and even a lot of serious gameplayers I know just go with PlayStation just because. It's the brand. They don't know how much RAM is in the box, they sometimes don't even know about exclusives, but they play Madden, Soul Calibur, GTA and the like and spend 1000s of hours doing so.Those gamers may have bought a 360 last gen simply because the PS3 was really expensive at first, giving MS a major push.
Ozrimandias
Member
Agree, that's what I been saying a few weeks. Sony it's losing its momentum and it´s clear, that Sony secretism it's beginning to annoying consumers.
Svengoolie007
Banned
it’s not only about the lack of communication. It’s also about spreading lies.
Anyone remember this:
PS5 games won't be playable on PS4, SIE boss confirms: "We believe in generations"
"It is time to give the PlayStation community something new"www.gamesradar.com
If MS pulled something like they would be hammered, but since it’s Sony it’s easily forgotten. Hypocrisy.
Honestly, what are you talking about? Why would PS5 games be playable on PS4? Why would MS or anybody else be hammered for saying that? Should Gamecube games be playable on N64?
DeeDogg_
Banned
Yeah after they stop counting their money and finally decide to dust it off.
Its one on those "technically, i didnt lie" type things. They just said "generations", let the internet buzz about it for months without correcting themselves, then was like "you guys said that, not us", when forced. Typical corporate pr move.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
According to who? Your imaginary friends?
You sound just as arrogant as the company you worship.
Sony has won the race, and will probably win next. And its only for the hardcore players the exclusives matter for. The majority of gamers, which are not fanboys, buy a PS5 because they want to play gta fifa and cod. Most of them don't give a shit about god of war or the last of us 2.
Multi plays always sells more. And Sony doesn't really care about your shining Knight defensive stance, they only care about your money.
Like Microsoft and Nintendo wants. Neither is your friend but fanboys acts like its your first crush and are obsessed with sticking to them.
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DeeDogg_
Banned
How much patience do you want us to have when the entire marketing process for this thing has been a clusterfuck and spaced out too far from each other? And this is Push Square we’re talking about it so don’t even try the whole “Xbot hating muh Sony!” Thing